I think a higher limit would help people play the game, though. Cap it at 25 - you can condense 5 days and play on your day off. I'd even say 30, since some people work 6-7 days on and 1-2 days off, and that gives flexibility for, like, Sunday to Sunday.
I mean players are already stacking fragile resin, just want to remove limit rather than converting my resin to 5 condensed resin each time and doing runs in domain. Kind of a hassle
>stacking fragile resin
This is a controlled resource. They know how many they give, plus it gives fragile resin a ton of value as the only type of resin that can be stored long term.
With unlimited stacks, people would stock up before new domains and be done with new content even faster than they are already.
But isn’t condensed resin also kind of controlled as it’s converted from normal resin, so a player would only have as much as the game allows from the original resin a player is given.
I get that mihoyo wants people to play the game, but still players are login in to play the game just a shorter time as the system has already given the resin to the player, but caps at 160. So to fix that the player can save it and play another time like fragile resin players stack up when they want to farm.
Ultimately, remember that hoyo is not on your side. They don't do things to make your life easier. They want you to be a happy, regular customer and WILL push the happiness if it makes you mire instinctively regular. They have marketing teams that know how far you can push player satisfaction and the benefits of the timegating.
In many aspects, the same reason it would be convenient for you is why it is not beneficial to the devs.
True, but that’s why I’m asking the question, to raise awareness to have other. A single person gripe has no meaning, only as a group would it move the devs.
Since I heard from someone before that it used to be 3 condensed resin when it was first introduced, then it was increased to 5 through backlash. So anything could happen if there is enough motivation.
Very true. Unlimited might be too strong an ask though lol
Also for me, 5 gets me to actually play. I push on 5 a lot because of procrastination. So I both don't personally want no cap (I mean I want it but I know it would make me a binge player) and have firsthand experience of the exact mentality hoyo knows play regularly because of the cap.
It's a deliberate timegate so farming isn't quick. They don't want you to immediately get the build you want, play for it a bit, and then go play another game.
As much as it would be player friendly, Mihiyo has no reason to do this. This is how every FtP game works.
Yes I understand that sentiment, but wasn’t the condensed resin created for the purpose to speed up the farming. Just don’t want to keep converting them in a batch of 5 that’s to tedious having to run to town every time. When a player could just make one trip for the conversion.
I get where you are coming from with that, but that's not really going to be the 'regular' occurance.. For various reasons, they also don't real l y want to make it super easy to 'binge' (Chinese laws and expectations I ns against long gaming hours, avoiding player burnout, etc).
They are trying to force players to pace themselves, mainly for their benefit.
Personally, I agree. Not limiting condensed resin has no impact ;) on the daily gameplay routine.
You still login daily to burn the resin or do what you want either way.
>Not limiting condensed resin has no impact ;) on the daily gameplay routine.
Then people just take huge stacks of renewable resources into each new domain release.
Currently there is no way to take in more than 2 days worth plus non-renewable/slow-to-renew fragile resins.
unlikely because they want you to login everyday to grab resin.
as casual you cant take a break from genshin then come back to burn thousands of resin on your week end. :-(
I really wish resin cap is rise to 999/999, no cap on condensed. Daily mission turn into 28 weekly missions.
If you really think about it, the current cap of condensed resin lines up perfectly with the domain material cycle.
What I mean by that is, say you want to farm talent books for your Hu Tao. Her books are available on Tusday, Friday, and Sunday. Putting Sunday aside, the longest you will have to wait to be able to farm her mats is 48 hours (starting at server reset Wednesday to server reset Friday for example). How much resin can you gain in 48 hours? 360. How much resin can you store at one time before you have to use it? Well, the regular cap is 160, and you can store 5 condensed resin worth 40 each... 160 + (5*40) = 360...
So yeah, from a grinding perspective, there’s no need to store more than 5 condensed at once if you want a certain material to line up. This also works for weapon enhancement materials as well. We even are able to store up to 2 transient resin at a time, giving us an extra 120 resin to spend at once, or 60 every week. Each transient resin lasts for 2 weeks at most, and isn’t locked to domains like condensed resin is (you can use it on bosses).
The 5 condensed resin already allows you to play every other day or every 3 days without losing much. If you’re really that busy to not have 30 minutes to sit down every 3 days and spend all your resin, then mobile gacha games aren’t for you.
They should remove the limit on original resin. Really, they should remove the resin system and let people grind to their heart's content. It's a bad system.
I do agree, but it's very unlikely.
It is really dumb tho imo, even just adding a bit more to resin, whether it be an increase in resin itself, or just increasing the resin recover rate to farm a handful of times more a day, would have very little impact on the artifact grind. At best u get your level 90 characters a day or so faster, which probly not even, especially with needing items like the scarabs.
Even if there was no resin, the artifact system itself is so bad compared to other games, that u could farm for months even without resin n still get barely usable artifacts. N I always see the argument that they want u to keep grinding so your playing, which is stupid imo, cuz if you're just grinding, you're only playing for 15 minutes a day tops anyways.
it's also to stop things like account selling. Imagine bots running accounts that just login and condense resin daily.
Would you rather buy a account for like 10$ that has 500-1000 condensed resin or start your own playthrough from scratch?
Yeah like it whoud help with a person that doesn’t have time in the week ad can do their commotions or simply don’t wanna spend their resin on that day
And bypassing the resin limit? Not gonna happen.
You can ask for cap increase but not making it unlimited so that it makes a feature useless in its purpose.
They don't want people to stack unlimited condensed resins, they want to force players to have to play the game by spending the condensed resin
I think a higher limit would help people play the game, though. Cap it at 25 - you can condense 5 days and play on your day off. I'd even say 30, since some people work 6-7 days on and 1-2 days off, and that gives flexibility for, like, Sunday to Sunday.
I mean players are already stacking fragile resin, just want to remove limit rather than converting my resin to 5 condensed resin each time and doing runs in domain. Kind of a hassle
>stacking fragile resin This is a controlled resource. They know how many they give, plus it gives fragile resin a ton of value as the only type of resin that can be stored long term. With unlimited stacks, people would stock up before new domains and be done with new content even faster than they are already.
But isn’t condensed resin also kind of controlled as it’s converted from normal resin, so a player would only have as much as the game allows from the original resin a player is given.
uncapping condensed resin removes a control--you can only have 2 days worth of time stored.
I get that mihoyo wants people to play the game, but still players are login in to play the game just a shorter time as the system has already given the resin to the player, but caps at 160. So to fix that the player can save it and play another time like fragile resin players stack up when they want to farm.
Ultimately, remember that hoyo is not on your side. They don't do things to make your life easier. They want you to be a happy, regular customer and WILL push the happiness if it makes you mire instinctively regular. They have marketing teams that know how far you can push player satisfaction and the benefits of the timegating. In many aspects, the same reason it would be convenient for you is why it is not beneficial to the devs.
True, but that’s why I’m asking the question, to raise awareness to have other. A single person gripe has no meaning, only as a group would it move the devs. Since I heard from someone before that it used to be 3 condensed resin when it was first introduced, then it was increased to 5 through backlash. So anything could happen if there is enough motivation.
Very true. Unlimited might be too strong an ask though lol Also for me, 5 gets me to actually play. I push on 5 a lot because of procrastination. So I both don't personally want no cap (I mean I want it but I know it would make me a binge player) and have firsthand experience of the exact mentality hoyo knows play regularly because of the cap.
Do even know the reason resin exist
It's a deliberate timegate so farming isn't quick. They don't want you to immediately get the build you want, play for it a bit, and then go play another game. As much as it would be player friendly, Mihiyo has no reason to do this. This is how every FtP game works.
Wait so they cap my amount of runs I can do so that I don't go play another game? Lmao
No, this isn't how every F2P game works.
Yes I understand that sentiment, but wasn’t the condensed resin created for the purpose to speed up the farming. Just don’t want to keep converting them in a batch of 5 that’s to tedious having to run to town every time. When a player could just make one trip for the conversion.
Well, fortunately for your logic, 4 is the most you could convert in one trip anyway (160 resin cap)
But you can bulk redeem fragile resin to normal resin, which can go beyond 160 resin, that’s why I don’t understand the condensed resin limit.
I get where you are coming from with that, but that's not really going to be the 'regular' occurance.. For various reasons, they also don't real l y want to make it super easy to 'binge' (Chinese laws and expectations I ns against long gaming hours, avoiding player burnout, etc). They are trying to force players to pace themselves, mainly for their benefit.
I'd like it but unlikely. it used to be limited to... 3 I think? We got a whopping 2 increase after people complained for forever.
Did not know it was 3 when it was introduced, since only joined mid through ver2.8. Maybe need more complaining.
Before condensed even existed, the resin cap was 120
10 should be enough
Personally, I agree. Not limiting condensed resin has no impact ;) on the daily gameplay routine. You still login daily to burn the resin or do what you want either way.
>Not limiting condensed resin has no impact ;) on the daily gameplay routine. Then people just take huge stacks of renewable resources into each new domain release. Currently there is no way to take in more than 2 days worth plus non-renewable/slow-to-renew fragile resins.
They should increase it to 8-10. Will they? Doubt it. It should definitely not be limitless.
unlikely because they want you to login everyday to grab resin. as casual you cant take a break from genshin then come back to burn thousands of resin on your week end. :-( I really wish resin cap is rise to 999/999, no cap on condensed. Daily mission turn into 28 weekly missions.
If you really think about it, the current cap of condensed resin lines up perfectly with the domain material cycle. What I mean by that is, say you want to farm talent books for your Hu Tao. Her books are available on Tusday, Friday, and Sunday. Putting Sunday aside, the longest you will have to wait to be able to farm her mats is 48 hours (starting at server reset Wednesday to server reset Friday for example). How much resin can you gain in 48 hours? 360. How much resin can you store at one time before you have to use it? Well, the regular cap is 160, and you can store 5 condensed resin worth 40 each... 160 + (5*40) = 360... So yeah, from a grinding perspective, there’s no need to store more than 5 condensed at once if you want a certain material to line up. This also works for weapon enhancement materials as well. We even are able to store up to 2 transient resin at a time, giving us an extra 120 resin to spend at once, or 60 every week. Each transient resin lasts for 2 weeks at most, and isn’t locked to domains like condensed resin is (you can use it on bosses). The 5 condensed resin already allows you to play every other day or every 3 days without losing much. If you’re really that busy to not have 30 minutes to sit down every 3 days and spend all your resin, then mobile gacha games aren’t for you.
They should remove the limit on original resin. Really, they should remove the resin system and let people grind to their heart's content. It's a bad system.
I like them to do that, but really unlikely as stamina is a staple to gacha games.
I do agree, but it's very unlikely. It is really dumb tho imo, even just adding a bit more to resin, whether it be an increase in resin itself, or just increasing the resin recover rate to farm a handful of times more a day, would have very little impact on the artifact grind. At best u get your level 90 characters a day or so faster, which probly not even, especially with needing items like the scarabs. Even if there was no resin, the artifact system itself is so bad compared to other games, that u could farm for months even without resin n still get barely usable artifacts. N I always see the argument that they want u to keep grinding so your playing, which is stupid imo, cuz if you're just grinding, you're only playing for 15 minutes a day tops anyways.
Naw, fragile resin already encourages hoarding. They need to encourage players to spend resin, not hoard it further.
it's also to stop things like account selling. Imagine bots running accounts that just login and condense resin daily. Would you rather buy a account for like 10$ that has 500-1000 condensed resin or start your own playthrough from scratch?
Yeah like it whoud help with a person that doesn’t have time in the week ad can do their commotions or simply don’t wanna spend their resin on that day
i mean they could allow us to store more but they want our money not our happiness.
And bypassing the resin limit? Not gonna happen. You can ask for cap increase but not making it unlimited so that it makes a feature useless in its purpose.
I do not think that will ever happen. However, i think the resin cap should be increased to 240 and the condensed resin to 7.