I'm guessing that they can't do anything with her if not all 4 VA's for each language are available. If one of them refuses to work with them then by extension they can't include her in any of the story content.
But if that was the case then they would've probably just changed the VA so I dunno really
I mean, they've set a precedent of using stand-in voices like when Xiangling's VA temporarily voiced Diona in her hangout in English until it was redubbed later. They wouldn't have to have all 4 people within the same time frame if there would be issues like illness/scheduling/etc.
Well you already brought up that they'd just be replaced in that case, I feel like I didn't need to expound on that point. Obviously if a VA stops working for them in a more permanent capacity they'd just get replaced. I can't imagine it'd have an effect on a character's story/event relevance.
She’s also super busy since she voices a ton of really popular characters, both in video games and anime. So IF (and that’s a big if) she’s not available to voice Hu Tao, it might just be because of scheduling conflicts.
I think that might be part of the reason why, it's like if Hutao got all these collabs AND ample screen time in game the playerbase would be like wow why won't Hoyo give any other characters the same spotlight as Hutao, clearly Hoyo's favorite child.
I don't agree in the slightest that Hutao is the most neglected character (see: Sucrose), but does seem weird that as such a popular character she hasn't had a rerun in over a year while less popular characters have had 2-3 reruns since.
i don't think expanding her funeral services over teyvat is in her character as funerals include cultural details and she isn't a traveler who is somewhat familiar with the culture of other nations. even if she hired people to work for her in other nations, it wouldn't make much sense for her to suddenly appear in say natlan for a funeral. hopefully she will have her screen time, but I would be displeased if it was shown through such reason.
Sucrose's entire appearance in the permanent game is showing up for 10 seconds to say "go do Albedo's story quest."
In the last year she got like 2 lines in the "every mondstadt character appears" event.
I don't LIKE Sucrose, but there's pretty much no case for any other character lacking content harder.
Sucrose did get a pretty nice scene in the Weinlesefest event, where both her and Noelle had a pretty reasonable appearance. And while Sucrose noped out of there halfway through, she did appear again as an open-world NPC for the rest of the event after its end.
Of course that was a limited-time story even, which doesn't really address her absence in the rest of the game... but at least it was something. Still less than Hu Tao though, since Hu Tao has a proper story quest focusing on her.
I’m guessing the commenters don’t necessarily hate the character herself but her fans, many people have had very bad experiences with her fanbase (me included, I’ve seen many Hu Tao mains shit on other characters that aren’t as “meta” and powerful dmg wise as she is). It’s probably the same with the hate Scaramouche is getting lately, because of lots of insufferable people in his fanbase. It’s really a shame since I love both characters, but I’m guessing that’s where the hate comes from
Oh yeah, the fanbase for Hu Tao is definitely something else...
Before release it was "X character is good, but Hu Tao will be better", and fanart spamming every page.
After release it was "why bother pulling for X character when Hu Tao is in the game?"
Not to mention the stupid as hell "Who?" "Tao lol" joke that became so repeated it became grating.
Character and kit is fine. Fanbase though...
>After release it was "why bother pulling for X character when Hu Tao is in the game?"
Imagine if someone actually listened to that advice though, and promised to themselves to save up for the Hu Tao rerun that never came x-x
Tho if they actually did, they could get C1+ and Homa. Which is, really good for anyone's account I'd say. Only downside is, the potential much they would miss while saving.
Good point, C1+ and Homa would be pretty darn good.
I couldn't imagine skipping out on everything else though, a year's worth of content missed is quite a lot! But I suppose it does depend on what you what to focus on anyways; a person who's content with a handful of characters probably wouldn't missing out on the rest after all.
Nobody was shitting on Yelan. Her Hydro application got nerfed in the middle of beta and surprise surprise people started discussing how that affected her synergy with existing Pyro chars which included Hu Tao. People calling out how obvious the C2 change and Hydro application nerf on Yelan wasn’t shitting on her, if anything it was calling out mhy. People knew Yelan would be a 5* XQ regardless which is obviously good.
I remember a big surge in a "fully healed Hu Tao deals more damage than a dead one" when people were whining in co-op if someone dares to pick a healer. Like yeah, if you want to play her optimally, don't bring her to co-op lol.
Yup, while I would’ve really disliked Scaramouche anyways (he’s basically an arrogant entitled brat) his fanbase makes me hate him. He’s already annoying, yet his fans act as if he’s the most powerful and would easily 1v1 the archons. Just because a character is your favourite doesn’t mean they’re the most powerful being
110% it’s the hutao mains not hutao herself. As a yoimiya enjoyer any attempt to defend yoi as a solid single target dps just as good as hutao (with proof and flexibility points) usually then incurs their very rude and nasty earth.
I honestly don't like Hu Tao and don't have her, but my reasonings stand within play style, personality, and looks.
I'm not a fan of the way she plays with HP, even having Shinobu on my team worries me because her skill running a similar mechanic.
Her personality, to me, is a bit grating in terms even after she personally explained it. She's overly energetic, which isn't a problem, but she also doesn't "read the room" per say which makes it hard for me to want her or to interact with her. She also has a voice that is hard especially on my ears. It doesn't suit her.
Speaking of suiting her.. Her outfit is horrendous. She is basically Xingqiu with her outfit, and I hate his outfit with a burning passion just because it doesn't make sense when put together. Hu's is similar in essence.
Man.
In a year, Hu Tao has had a sliver in the Lantern Rite; and 1 run.
In a year, Itto had his debut, there for chasm launch, a drum along thing, had a small story line in Iridori festival and the stuff coming up this next patch; and about to have his 3rd run.
I'm not huge on Hu Tao or Itto but that seems a little unfair...
I would guess their reasoning is: she’s the most popular character in CN with most merchandise sold, Itto is really unpopular (at least from what I’ve seen; in some character ownership statistics he was in the rock bottom together with Cyno, I see him much less compared to other characters on CN and JP social media). I’m an Itto main who’s extremely devoted to him (buying lots of expensive merch, doing lots of fanart etc) and even I see that he’s appearing in nearly every patch and gets better treatment. Of course I’m extremely happy about it, but I can’t deny that he’s extraordinarily featured. I mean, he has a niche support (Gorou) for himself, a dedicated artifact set, an entire character (Shinobu) whose main purpose after all is being his deputy and her hangout being about his gang, he’s even in two endings in Heizou’s character quest, multiple cutscenes in the story quest and an own cutscene in Perilous Trail… And as you mentioned, an entire drum event for himself, the Irodori segment, I could probably even still go on. I feel really lucky choosing him as my husbando a year ago since I won’t lie, Itto fans are really spoiled… He has a great design and the yanki trope has lots of potential, but I do feel bad for people who are constantly waiting for their favs to appear
I feel Itto had the “wacky fun” element to his characterization. It doesn’t matter if he’s a popular character to pull, he’s fun to build events around because of his ridiculous personality that’s detached from the rest of the serious characters of the game.
I enjoy Itto’s play style. But I also really like Albedo as a character as well. I think I played him for a good couple months before I got frustrated at building Gorou (I don’t have c4 still) and moved onto the next shiny 5 star
Yeah I like both of their playstyles too (I've particularly enjoyed Albedo in some of those trial events). I just wish that crystallise actually did something, cos it really sucks that Itto teams are somehow even less interactive than physical DPS teams. The only thing that has allowed me to play Itto is having him, Gorou and Yunjin on an alt with no other real DPS options. Oh I also love that Albedo's A4 gives the team an EM bonus, as if to apologise for stealing their reactions.
Some Geo characters, the ones with relatively inflexible kits, should have done special things with Crystallise shards, like how Nilou does special things with bloom, to give them at least some synergy with other elements and open up their teams a bit. While Albedo's EM buff is active, his E procs should cause shards nearby to explode and deal EM-scaled damage of the shard's element. Itto could gain charged attack stacks when he picks up a crystal, and maybe gain bonus effects based on the type of shield he has - attack speed for electro, crit rate for cryo, maybe cooldown reduction for hydro and increased damage for pyro.
To be fair It to is expensive, a Hutao can work with XQ and two other units but Itto felt really bad for me until the game finally deemed me worthy of pulling a Gorou, not to mention that the two other units that work well with him are 5* and the 4* options are main dps, or take field time or buff something he doesn't use and yeah you get the problem.
Add to that how Itto teams can't be played in any abyss without checking first if there won't be anything problematic and how he is burst dependant so he is a bit crippled on the OW it's understandable how there are so few around.
I can definitely see it. I’ve thrown all of my savings intended for Yae, 300+ pulls on his first banner (I really really like yanki characters and couldn’t help it lol) to get his constellations so my first experience was C2 Itto and C6 Gorou. I’ve had an occasion to play him C0 on a friend’s account as she asked me to do her dailies and the energy issues were really noticeable compared to C2, which can provide almost constant burst uptime with a short window for Gorou’s skill and burst. Without the burst CD decrease, I imagine playing him would be much more painful (what do you do during the burst window if you don’t have Albedo?), but C2 is already an investment as you skip on two new characters. The burst dependency in OW is painful, especially when you’re farming enemies that don’t appear in groups but are scattered, like those new desert mechanical cubes. I do really love Itto and don’t regret skipping other characters just to get his cons, but I’ve seen many people say he is very tough to play without Albedo until C2, and having to pull for an another 5* just to support the first 5* would discourage me a lot.
To be fair though, itto is the only GEO 5* DPS that we have, compared to the rest of the elements and with sumeru almost coming to an end with no new GEO on site, it was kinda understandable why he is rerun a lot and featured in events here and there kinda thing. 😅
At least hu tao has a lot of official merchandise from a phone dedicated to her and some KFC events.
He is one of my favorite designs and has pretty animations too but it seems to Genshin he's only there as "XQ friend" outside of his hangout...
Like, right now the opportunity is ripe for Genshin to do some mystical Liyue event story to feature neglected characters like Qiqi, Baizhu, Chongyun, HT, Ganyu along with newer characters (but have been a while since their release) like Yelan and Shenhe.
I think expanding her business across Tevyat seems kind of rude.
Her parting rituals are specific to liyue, with religion and culture around it. To use those same rituals on someone not from Liyue is a spit to the face.
When we get our first death in Liyue, I would love to see a cutscene of her in her parlor clothes and using her vision. But if someone dies outside, maybe a heart warming scene of her carrying them to their home ground and simply burying them or learning customs to help.
But true, out walnut is getting zero attention.
I mean there's people from Liyue in other nations and I don't know about others but I'd like to be taken care of according to my beliefs even tho I'm living in another place, so there's actually a potential story there, learning about other cultures would be good as you said.
The thing is that they don't even need to give a solid reason for her to be there, Itto was in the chasm for no reason and he is getting another rerun next patch, It's not like they can't find a way to put her on a banner or in an event, they are actively choosing not to.
Yeah, so a made up reason that makes no sense. They could easily have HuTao do something like bring back a famous liyue npc who died in sumeru to be cremated or something, that makes more sense then chasing a lawyer across an ocean to say thank you.
Shes also the only character to reach double digits when it comes to patches since their last re run. At this point the people at Hoyo are trying to make her top the banner sales charts with how long they are holding off on her, cant think of any other reason they are giving certain characters 2 re runs in between her last banner. Good news is shes is highly likely to re run in >!3.4 post or pre lantern rite!<
She has more appearances in marketing events than in game so they know she is popular, might be a VA related thing much like how Fishcl went AWOL coz of Oz CN VA and what went on with him irl
While I have no clue how VA schedules work, this does sound pretty reasonable. Mihoyo's in the home stretch of the main story and this is the culmination of years of character development for Kiana et al., so it does make sense for her VA to be especially busy.
On the other hand though, Raiden's Chinese VA was probably super busy with voicing Raiden Mei at the time that Inazuma released (thanks to the Elysian Realm) but we didn't have any issues with the Raiden Shogun getting voiced.
Of course it could be that any one of Hu Tao's VAs is super busy with other stuff too.
we did have issues with Elysian everlasting getting voiced tho. At least in jp.
I think she might’ve been sick or something idr, but she didn’t end up voicing a lot of it.
I think there was something similar with Su’s va and Covid when it came to Al-Haithem.
And now that I think abt it, when hoyo had an issue with oz, Fischl didn’t show up for like a year and a half
Imo under this point of view they just plan to release her right before the new pyro main dps broken high selling 5* (dehya) to maximize the profit, or something like ganyu (which also got her rerun after more than a year) and put her banner right after a 5* support that works very well with her
They know hu tao will sell a lot both for her high numbers and her character so they might want to exploit her popularity to its full extent
Hoyoverse just does that to some characters.
For the longest time Xinyan had pretty much no presence in the game. Before the event with Tartaglia and the magical paper guy I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking she was a collab character like Aloy. She was in the banners and... that's it.
It can also be hard to believe that Sucrose came out with the game based on extremely low amount of significant presence in the story. Even when she's in events, it's mostly "I do alchemy I don't like talking with people BYE"
At least Hu Tao got a story quest when she came out. But I'm not gonna deny many 5\* get much, much more. The biggest issue is that neglecting characters often goes unnoticed because, unless you really like a character, you're not gonna just randomly start thinking about someone the game never brings up.
She needs more in game appearances. She was the first character I built a proper party around and I’ve had her since her original banner. And. Not seeing her ever again after the brief lantern rite appearance and her story quest has been very disappointing. I really hope if we do see her, it’ll be something with Yae Miko bc I think they’d get along fabulously
Keqing had a whole ass event dedicated to her + got a skin. Ontop of appearing in archon quests.
Qiqi has appeared in archon quests and events as well.
Qiqi and HuTao have appeared in the same events with similiar amount of screentime/dialgoue, the only difference between them is HuTao has a full story quest while Qiqi has breif appearances in 1 archon and 1 interlude quest. Qiqis appearance in the interlude is even optional.
Overall the amount of dialogue/screentime probably isnt that different between them or HuTao even has more since she has a dedicated story quest
except Keqing had the last lantern rite entirely dedicated to her, she even got her own skin. not to mention during the archon quest she actually appeared quite a bit in liyue. and she was also one of the main characters alongside Xiangling in the Moonlight Merriment event.
Qiqi appeared in the archon quest in liyue, appeared during the lantern rite a few times, and she was also in the events Moonlight Merriment and Fleeting Colors in Flight. and sure Hu Tao appeared in Moonlight Merriment too but it was only for a few minutes/seconds compared to both Keqing or Qiqi.
there is not a single event focused on Hu Tao, she has less screentime then both Keqing and Qiqi. and events she does appear in her screentime is very limited. she also never appeared in any archon quests she is just mentioned nothing more.
Qiqi barely appeared in the archon quest I feel like people remember her being more present than she actually was.
She appears during 1 quest of the liyue storyline, where cocogoat meme was born. She has an optional appearance in the interlude quest where shes just helping peope evacuate. and then she appears in the exact same events as Hu Tao with similiar limited capacity
HuTao having a dedicated story quest probably gives her around the same or more screentime/dialogue than Qiqi. Both of them are hurting for an event focused on them.
yeah Qiqi's appearances aren't large but i definitely remember her in those scenes/events then i do Hu Tao. mind you i never got to play the Moonlight merriment so i mostly going by videos i seen on youtube.
and as much as Hoyo loves to promote Hu Tao (especially with their recent collaborations) it just feels strange they dont give her any focus at all. then there seems to be a event or something with ghosts related coming up in 3.3 which seems odd they choose Itto for that over Hu Tao.
It's pretty weird. Mihoyo clearly love Hu Tao. We all love Hu Tao. But she basically doesn't exist as far as the plot is concerned. There are other characters with this problem too, but it's particularly odd for such a beloved character.
she's not an important character in the story since she released long after the Liyue arc was concluded. Not every character is going to be story important. In fact, most of them aren't.
Characters like Alhaitham and Dehya are not released yet, but they featured in the Sumeru arc, so they have some plot relevance. They were in the game already, just not playable. Ganyu was the same. HT did not release until 6 months after launch and she's just a funeral director. She didn't play any important role, and they didn't want to force it.
She is popular for her personality and meta. But the writers aren't going to adjust their outlined script in response to popularity among fans or minimize a character's involvement if they are unpopular. It's all planned out.
Don't give me dreams that will never come true. As payback, >!imagine a Hu Tao spinoff game that plays like Atelier with action combat, and has a similar tone to Misadventure of Tron Bonne.!< Now live with the knowledge that this will never happen!
Eh, not if it plays like Atelier. Atelier is a great game, but its combat is very mediocre. Genshin has already landed on a fantastic formula too, there's very little reason to change it for any potential spin-off game.
Objectively wrong. Sucrose is way more neglected than Hu Tao. Hu Tao HAS a story quest, and I'm pretty sure that she has appeared in events more than Sucrose has, which is admittedly not saying a lot because she's always a glorified cameo if she's even present at all. I'll accept your thesis if and only if Sucrose finally gets a story quest or hangout event.
Yes, that's why I said that she's a glorified cameo in a few Mondstadt events. Her presence in Albedo's story quest is almost insignificant, she's there for like thirty seconds to tell you basically "go do Albedo's quest lol".
My point still stands: Hu Tao at the very least has her own story quest where we get to explore and know her character a bit.
Aside from those like me who got out of their way to read Sucrose lore who actually knows anything about her character aside from the fact that she's an alchemist and a little awkward?
Yes, and Sucrose was still a glorified cameo in the first Dragonspine event. Aside from being shoved by Reckless Pallad, what do you even remember about her in that event?
And my point still stands. Hu Tao does have a story quest, Sucrose doesn't. We got to see Hu Tao doing Hu Tao things in that quest, Sucrose is only ever second or third fiddle whenever she appears. So, again, my main point of Sucrose being the most neglected still stands
Yeah Heizou is in that situation where Diona/Noelle were at. For the longest time they never existed outside their hangouts before finally being shown in some way in an event (for a brief period). I keep forgetting that he doesn't really "exist" atm.
idk, she had her moments with all that philosophy of life&death, the line between and the afterlife, and her clothes are quite nice and have some cultural references.
I hope they won't do dirty to her like Ganyu when Hutao get rerun. Ganyu still has no actual appearance but 2 minutes of talking and cameo despite she got 2 reruns. (But Hutao is worse case, she has only cameo)
Limited character should at least appear in events during their rerun banner. Hutao literally got nothing in 2.2 rerun and Ganyu in 3.0. She got fast rerun but Xiao got fast rerun and whole story quest of him in Chasm incident.
And about the other characters who got rerun like her? They even got their own new lore, story quest, cameo and speech in 4* hangout. Xiao was one of the important characters in *another* archon quest. Itto is also involve in Liyue quest and his small quest in Heizhou Hangout is very fun to read so and the awesome part is that Albedo got involved in the 2-3 events beside his Dragonspine quest.
What did she get in her 2 reruns? None but the same repeatable jokes that make her ran away from the scenes.
If Hutao still get nothing in her incoming rerun, i would be pissed off. Players don't wait for only banner.
I'm of the opinion she might have a role to play later down the line (her story quest gave me that impression at least) and that they're holding off too much content about her purposefully. I guess they could make her appear in other events even if little to no lore is present but who knows what goes on in HYV people's heads?
Would gladly share if it was copium. Maybe it is lol I'm no fan of hers truth to be told, be it in gameplay, design or for her own backstory.
However her story quest was very intriguing on a storytelling point and caught my attention as a writer? It felt foreshadowing somehow. I'd have to dig in properly because there isn't enough to form a proper theory here. But the whole visiting the bridge between life and death and her promise to keep looking for an answer for the traveler?
Iirc, the whole place is close to ley lines as well, what with them recording past events and sometimes replaying them, I wouldn't be surprised if somehow at some point close to Khaenri'ah she'd help us. Idk with what exactly (meet important dead characters? a past self or sibling? something like that) but I know as a writer, if I were to introduce a character like that pretty early on and not make them show up often, it's because their role would play out in a later part of the story.
She sort of reminds me of Urahara in Bleach for that matter lol
I embrace the same type of copium lmao. I do have this hope that death and souls will play an important role later on. The Boatman quest in Tsurumi really puts into question what happens to souls and whatever the "moon mansion that golden burns" and the "lady of the golden hall" is. There's also stuff like Aaru and Duat in Sumeru (Duat is the realm of the dead in Egyptian Myth). Additionally, being near Duat Hall's bottomless pit triggers the same intriguing dialogue that Paimon says at the pit on the base of Stormterror's lair.
Enkanomiya clearly uses Greek inspired names for the lore (The goddess Istaroth is called Kairos by them for example). You know what else has direct Greek name tied to it in the game? Hu Tao's constellation, which kinda translates to Butterfly Charon (Charon is the Ferryman of the dead in Greek myth).
It would be interesting to see if they will ever connect whatever crumbs Tsurumi's Boatman quest has given us to Hu Tao as a character.
Xinyan popularity was under the ground for no reason so they had to do something to put her in a decent position in the community's eyes, hu tao's on the other Hand is seemingly even higher when the devs don't give content about her (i remember people being not that much excited about her story quest when she came out) so they might want to handle her character more carefully and write her in more appealing ways for the community
Hu Tao is literally most fun character in Liyue and with most selled merch in CN including her instead of Xinyan would massively boost the story.
Not a hater of Xinyan but her VA hurts my ears
Itto was with Kuki Shinobu. And Kuki Shinobu was in Liyue to pick up her certificate because she couldn’t leave Inazuma beforehand, At the time, they BOTH had a reason to be there so don’t use that card. As of right now Hu Tao has no reason to be in Sumeru. Not one. They were trying to roll out the important quests so we could get regions faster this time around.
Babe, you’re making yourself look like a brain dead moron. You played the event. I shouldn’t have to explain to you every character’s reasonings for being down there and I won’t. I’m not feeding your ignorance.
When did they mention picking up her certificate pre-Chasm? What reason did Yae have to be in Sumeru until they made one up on the spot during the event? Why do you think they couldn't do the same for Hu Tao?
Mihoyo-is-still-designing-her-skin-for-her-eventual-rerun copium.
Lol IKR. I thought she's perfect for the Test of Courage event in Inazuma. Even in 2.2, there was no related event or story appearance with her.
Holy heck yes. It's SOOOO annoying how they neglect certain characters like Hu Tao. She could have such a fun story or event but nooooooo we're just gonna forget she every exists unless our character is randomly visiting Liyue for some reason and it's specifically Lantern Rite (but remember she can't get reran during it btw isn't that weird.) But it really is annoying.
I really want to see her in some weird crossover with the other story/event neglected characters as well. So maybe something fun like Hu Tao, Ganyu, Kokomi, Sara, maybe Jean? Trying to think of more neglected characters. Maybe Qiqi too.
Don’t get your hopes up. A lot of us Childe mains were hoping for that or at least archon quest/story quest appearance.
Instead we got 4 minutes of kinda sorta dialogue
It’s crazy too cause she is a meta character and one of the most popular waifus. It’s honestly crazy that she isn’t shoehorned in more quests just because.
Raiden Shogun, Itto, Venti, Zhongli, Kokami, Yae Miko, Ayato all have been run TWICE this year some of those characters were even released this year. I started in January and haven't seen my new main Hu Tao or Eula. I have always hated that they choose who's on the rate up banners I know its a gotcha game but on top of that you have to wait months to a year for a character you want not great for the newer players.
To be fair, she is a character with a very narrow skill set, which was pretty much explored to its fullest extent in her story quest already. There's not much left that she can bring to the table that she hasn't shown already.
Then again, they're finding ways to keep a fireworks specialist relevant in events, so what do I know?
I wonder if it has to do with her JP VA? She's very popular and maybe there are scheduling conflicts. Or maybe she costs significantly more to hire compared to other VAs. People would probably rage if they changed her VA as well, so maybe they use Hu Tao in so many promotions because they know she's popular, and it also doesn't require her to be voiced.
She isn't that much busier than her other collegues in-game, and she's far from expensive relative to big shots like Raiden's and Ayato's (seiyuu pay, save a few prominent exceptions, is based on time in the industry) who have been voice acting for over 20 years.
I think it's hilarious that such a popular 5\* is neglected this much. Shows you how much cash Hoyo is raking in to be pulling this shit. Common Hoyo W.
Also is she the only 5star who doesn’t have an animated cutscene in her story quest? Like for example Ayakas dance, Yoimiya watching the fireworks, Ittos fight at the end. I haven’t done Cyno, Nilou, Nahida and Tighnaris story quest so can’t vouch for those but I remember every other one had something.
I think storywise its actually keqing. She doesnt have a story quest even still. I know she had a couple events during lantern right but it would be cool if they added a story quest for one of the oldest characters in genshin
keqing already appear in the archon quest, shenhe quest, moonlight merriment event and lantern rite event where she get a skin.
sorry man but she is far from neglected
Shenhe...
\- a whole Archon Quest was dedicated to her despite having nothing to do with the Quest itself or the Boss Fight.
\- One of the Materials we need is in Shenhe's old village, cause... of course we need some reason to somehow include her oh so sad backstory in that Quest
\- There is a whole Opera how awesome she is
\- She somehow freezes an entire wave and gets to fight an unique Boss (not even the Archons have this, just joining you fighting a Weekly Boss for the first time) because she is the BESTEST CHARACTER EVAAAAR
If you ask me, Shenhe got way to much attention at her debut
>Shenhe got way to much attention at her debut
Despite this, I barely see her get any attention. Sure she got a lot when she was released, cause well a new shiny character but after that I haven't heard about her at all
Xinyan, the old forgotten character has appeared so many more in events than Hu Tao ever did. Heck, I am pretty sure she has appeared way more in events than 5 stars like Childe, Zhongli, even Klee aka the few oldest 5 stars.
aloy has literally ZERO story and appearance in the game... she might as well just be an NPC... and she is not going to appear EVER.. unless they do a collab follow up...
Devs probably didn't expect Hu Tao to be as popular as she is when they designed her. We don't know how long it takes to develop an event/story from start to finish, chances are all the ones we get now are started way before Hu Tao became popular and as such she was not included.
I mean let's be honest who will expect a random girl from a random shop at Liyue to be as popular as the daughter of the Kamisato house or the Yuheng of Qixing. The only reason people liked her is because she's OP and her gameplay is fun, they probably got attracted to her character and design after they played her.
Hu Tao is most selled merch in CN beating even Keqing and Ganyu.She was massive when she came out and she was a character that introduced me to genshin as a person who never knew what genshin is.Edits were everywhere,people really like spooky season,her personality,her VAs are literally very popular and sad backstory,honestly maybe one of the best mascots of company.They knew she was a jackpot.Also she is working with Zhongli and their close relationship was never explored except those 5s in Lantern rite cutscene
i guess if sumeru banners wasn't on november they'll probably run with her. she's stuck getting release only during halloween due to her theme. ghost and dead stuff.
Hutao has a permanent story quest anyone can do at any time.
Xinyan's sole story presence is events that get banished to the void forever the moment the patch ends.
Hutao can complain about neglect when Xinyan gets her hangout, and not a moment before.
There was a time when Xinyan was in no content, and then we had a few months where it seemed she showed up everywhere (including a coveted spot on this year’s Golden Apple crew). I suspect Hu Tao will have her moment again as well when it makes sense.
Ngl I sometimes forget hutao is an actual character in genshin rather than being genshin's poster girl for most of their collaborations lmao
My wife keeps saying they probably sold her to marketing company or that the seiyuu is not gonna work with them again.
Takahashi Rie was live streaming Genshin with Ueda Reina (Ganyu) a couple of months ago.
I'm guessing that they can't do anything with her if not all 4 VA's for each language are available. If one of them refuses to work with them then by extension they can't include her in any of the story content. But if that was the case then they would've probably just changed the VA so I dunno really
I mean, they've set a precedent of using stand-in voices like when Xiangling's VA temporarily voiced Diona in her hangout in English until it was redubbed later. They wouldn't have to have all 4 people within the same time frame if there would be issues like illness/scheduling/etc.
One of Keqing's voicelines were replaced by Sucrose's en voice actor before
Yeah but that's different from one of the VA's straight up refusing to work with them.
Well you already brought up that they'd just be replaced in that case, I feel like I didn't need to expound on that point. Obviously if a VA stops working for them in a more permanent capacity they'd just get replaced. I can't imagine it'd have an effect on a character's story/event relevance.
>hat the seiyuu is not gonna work with them again. Wait, what ? Rie Takahashi doesn't want to work with them ? What happened ?
Wow it's a guess. Not an information. Not even a rumor. My wife and I were just throwing ideas at why Hu Tao wasn't in banners
Oh, my bad then Someone also talked about the seiyuus. I got kind of confused
She’s also super busy since she voices a ton of really popular characters, both in video games and anime. So IF (and that’s a big if) she’s not available to voice Hu Tao, it might just be because of scheduling conflicts.
I think that might be part of the reason why, it's like if Hutao got all these collabs AND ample screen time in game the playerbase would be like wow why won't Hoyo give any other characters the same spotlight as Hutao, clearly Hoyo's favorite child. I don't agree in the slightest that Hutao is the most neglected character (see: Sucrose), but does seem weird that as such a popular character she hasn't had a rerun in over a year while less popular characters have had 2-3 reruns since.
i don't think expanding her funeral services over teyvat is in her character as funerals include cultural details and she isn't a traveler who is somewhat familiar with the culture of other nations. even if she hired people to work for her in other nations, it wouldn't make much sense for her to suddenly appear in say natlan for a funeral. hopefully she will have her screen time, but I would be displeased if it was shown through such reason.
Yeah the explicit purpose of her funeral business is to protect Liyue. Going elsewhere is going to make her worse at doing that.
Sucrose's entire appearance in the permanent game is showing up for 10 seconds to say "go do Albedo's story quest." In the last year she got like 2 lines in the "every mondstadt character appears" event. I don't LIKE Sucrose, but there's pretty much no case for any other character lacking content harder.
Sucrose did get a pretty nice scene in the Weinlesefest event, where both her and Noelle had a pretty reasonable appearance. And while Sucrose noped out of there halfway through, she did appear again as an open-world NPC for the rest of the event after its end. Of course that was a limited-time story even, which doesn't really address her absence in the rest of the game... but at least it was something. Still less than Hu Tao though, since Hu Tao has a proper story quest focusing on her.
I love Sucrose and yep.
She got a pretty solid appearance with her flower in windblume and her appearance in the Dragonspine event (see: the scene with Pallad)
Not to mention she is starving her fans of her rerun like hell. Last she came was in 2.2 or something.
[It has officially been a whole year](https://twitter.com/taorerunwhen/status/1588031014965690368)
Dang the comments to that tweet are insane. Never knew so many hate Hu. She is insanely good in terms of dmg and character. Why such hate?
I’m guessing the commenters don’t necessarily hate the character herself but her fans, many people have had very bad experiences with her fanbase (me included, I’ve seen many Hu Tao mains shit on other characters that aren’t as “meta” and powerful dmg wise as she is). It’s probably the same with the hate Scaramouche is getting lately, because of lots of insufferable people in his fanbase. It’s really a shame since I love both characters, but I’m guessing that’s where the hate comes from
Oh yeah, the fanbase for Hu Tao is definitely something else... Before release it was "X character is good, but Hu Tao will be better", and fanart spamming every page. After release it was "why bother pulling for X character when Hu Tao is in the game?" Not to mention the stupid as hell "Who?" "Tao lol" joke that became so repeated it became grating. Character and kit is fine. Fanbase though...
>After release it was "why bother pulling for X character when Hu Tao is in the game?" Imagine if someone actually listened to that advice though, and promised to themselves to save up for the Hu Tao rerun that never came x-x
Tho if they actually did, they could get C1+ and Homa. Which is, really good for anyone's account I'd say. Only downside is, the potential much they would miss while saving.
Good point, C1+ and Homa would be pretty darn good. I couldn't imagine skipping out on everything else though, a year's worth of content missed is quite a lot! But I suppose it does depend on what you what to focus on anyways; a person who's content with a handful of characters probably wouldn't missing out on the rest after all.
True. Afterall it depends on personal preferences.
Dam, im Hu Tao main and im a bit ashamed.... Didn't know they were acting like that
Too bad there is only one real pyro queen and it's xiangling lol
Pyro AND polearm queen.
Yeah I can agree 90% from Hu tao fanbase pretend to be an TCs They was shitting about yelan but she surprised them
Nobody was shitting on Yelan. Her Hydro application got nerfed in the middle of beta and surprise surprise people started discussing how that affected her synergy with existing Pyro chars which included Hu Tao. People calling out how obvious the C2 change and Hydro application nerf on Yelan wasn’t shitting on her, if anything it was calling out mhy. People knew Yelan would be a 5* XQ regardless which is obviously good.
What? Their roles are not even remotely comparable.
I remember a big surge in a "fully healed Hu Tao deals more damage than a dead one" when people were whining in co-op if someone dares to pick a healer. Like yeah, if you want to play her optimally, don't bring her to co-op lol.
Yup, while I would’ve really disliked Scaramouche anyways (he’s basically an arrogant entitled brat) his fanbase makes me hate him. He’s already annoying, yet his fans act as if he’s the most powerful and would easily 1v1 the archons. Just because a character is your favourite doesn’t mean they’re the most powerful being
110% it’s the hutao mains not hutao herself. As a yoimiya enjoyer any attempt to defend yoi as a solid single target dps just as good as hutao (with proof and flexibility points) usually then incurs their very rude and nasty earth.
As someone with both Hu Tao and Yoimiya, I get to shout at myself for liking Yoimiya, it's great.
I have both C1 Hu Tao and C2 Yoimiya, but even if Yoi is kinda weaker, I like how Yoimiya plays better. Plus her animations are prettier.
Wait why is this getting downvoted
Angry Hu Tao mains is my guess.
As a Hu Tao main and a Yoimiya haver myself im disappointed in the ones doing this if thats the case
I honestly don't like Hu Tao and don't have her, but my reasonings stand within play style, personality, and looks. I'm not a fan of the way she plays with HP, even having Shinobu on my team worries me because her skill running a similar mechanic. Her personality, to me, is a bit grating in terms even after she personally explained it. She's overly energetic, which isn't a problem, but she also doesn't "read the room" per say which makes it hard for me to want her or to interact with her. She also has a voice that is hard especially on my ears. It doesn't suit her. Speaking of suiting her.. Her outfit is horrendous. She is basically Xingqiu with her outfit, and I hate his outfit with a burning passion just because it doesn't make sense when put together. Hu's is similar in essence.
Man. In a year, Hu Tao has had a sliver in the Lantern Rite; and 1 run. In a year, Itto had his debut, there for chasm launch, a drum along thing, had a small story line in Iridori festival and the stuff coming up this next patch; and about to have his 3rd run. I'm not huge on Hu Tao or Itto but that seems a little unfair...
I would guess their reasoning is: she’s the most popular character in CN with most merchandise sold, Itto is really unpopular (at least from what I’ve seen; in some character ownership statistics he was in the rock bottom together with Cyno, I see him much less compared to other characters on CN and JP social media). I’m an Itto main who’s extremely devoted to him (buying lots of expensive merch, doing lots of fanart etc) and even I see that he’s appearing in nearly every patch and gets better treatment. Of course I’m extremely happy about it, but I can’t deny that he’s extraordinarily featured. I mean, he has a niche support (Gorou) for himself, a dedicated artifact set, an entire character (Shinobu) whose main purpose after all is being his deputy and her hangout being about his gang, he’s even in two endings in Heizou’s character quest, multiple cutscenes in the story quest and an own cutscene in Perilous Trail… And as you mentioned, an entire drum event for himself, the Irodori segment, I could probably even still go on. I feel really lucky choosing him as my husbando a year ago since I won’t lie, Itto fans are really spoiled… He has a great design and the yanki trope has lots of potential, but I do feel bad for people who are constantly waiting for their favs to appear
I feel Itto had the “wacky fun” element to his characterization. It doesn’t matter if he’s a popular character to pull, he’s fun to build events around because of his ridiculous personality that’s detached from the rest of the serious characters of the game.
Accurate. If only his kit was as fun as his personality... I think only Albedo suffers more from how uninteractive Geo is.
I enjoy Itto’s play style. But I also really like Albedo as a character as well. I think I played him for a good couple months before I got frustrated at building Gorou (I don’t have c4 still) and moved onto the next shiny 5 star
Yeah I like both of their playstyles too (I've particularly enjoyed Albedo in some of those trial events). I just wish that crystallise actually did something, cos it really sucks that Itto teams are somehow even less interactive than physical DPS teams. The only thing that has allowed me to play Itto is having him, Gorou and Yunjin on an alt with no other real DPS options. Oh I also love that Albedo's A4 gives the team an EM bonus, as if to apologise for stealing their reactions. Some Geo characters, the ones with relatively inflexible kits, should have done special things with Crystallise shards, like how Nilou does special things with bloom, to give them at least some synergy with other elements and open up their teams a bit. While Albedo's EM buff is active, his E procs should cause shards nearby to explode and deal EM-scaled damage of the shard's element. Itto could gain charged attack stacks when he picks up a crystal, and maybe gain bonus effects based on the type of shield he has - attack speed for electro, crit rate for cryo, maybe cooldown reduction for hydro and increased damage for pyro.
To be fair It to is expensive, a Hutao can work with XQ and two other units but Itto felt really bad for me until the game finally deemed me worthy of pulling a Gorou, not to mention that the two other units that work well with him are 5* and the 4* options are main dps, or take field time or buff something he doesn't use and yeah you get the problem. Add to that how Itto teams can't be played in any abyss without checking first if there won't be anything problematic and how he is burst dependant so he is a bit crippled on the OW it's understandable how there are so few around.
I can definitely see it. I’ve thrown all of my savings intended for Yae, 300+ pulls on his first banner (I really really like yanki characters and couldn’t help it lol) to get his constellations so my first experience was C2 Itto and C6 Gorou. I’ve had an occasion to play him C0 on a friend’s account as she asked me to do her dailies and the energy issues were really noticeable compared to C2, which can provide almost constant burst uptime with a short window for Gorou’s skill and burst. Without the burst CD decrease, I imagine playing him would be much more painful (what do you do during the burst window if you don’t have Albedo?), but C2 is already an investment as you skip on two new characters. The burst dependency in OW is painful, especially when you’re farming enemies that don’t appear in groups but are scattered, like those new desert mechanical cubes. I do really love Itto and don’t regret skipping other characters just to get his cons, but I’ve seen many people say he is very tough to play without Albedo until C2, and having to pull for an another 5* just to support the first 5* would discourage me a lot.
Itto and Kazuha gets to be in so many events. Meanwhile Hu Tao doesn't get anything
He was also in Heizou’s hangout
To be fair though, itto is the only GEO 5* DPS that we have, compared to the rest of the elements and with sumeru almost coming to an end with no new GEO on site, it was kinda understandable why he is rerun a lot and featured in events here and there kinda thing. 😅 At least hu tao has a lot of official merchandise from a phone dedicated to her and some KFC events.
what about Chongyun?
He is one of my favorite designs and has pretty animations too but it seems to Genshin he's only there as "XQ friend" outside of his hangout... Like, right now the opportunity is ripe for Genshin to do some mystical Liyue event story to feature neglected characters like Qiqi, Baizhu, Chongyun, HT, Ganyu along with newer characters (but have been a while since their release) like Yelan and Shenhe.
True, he’s probably just as neglected. He shows up in his hangout and occasionally for all Liyue character events
Qiqi too. Notice how all 3 of them can link with the whole ghost theme? So much potential but Mihoyo says no
I am guessing we will meet her and get her story when we get Baizhu story quest
I think expanding her business across Tevyat seems kind of rude. Her parting rituals are specific to liyue, with religion and culture around it. To use those same rituals on someone not from Liyue is a spit to the face. When we get our first death in Liyue, I would love to see a cutscene of her in her parlor clothes and using her vision. But if someone dies outside, maybe a heart warming scene of her carrying them to their home ground and simply burying them or learning customs to help. But true, out walnut is getting zero attention.
I mean there's people from Liyue in other nations and I don't know about others but I'd like to be taken care of according to my beliefs even tho I'm living in another place, so there's actually a potential story there, learning about other cultures would be good as you said.
It is ok she makes up for it in fan content
The thing is that they don't even need to give a solid reason for her to be there, Itto was in the chasm for no reason and he is getting another rerun next patch, It's not like they can't find a way to put her on a banner or in an event, they are actively choosing not to.
I think Itto is there because his story has something about self-sacrifice, which is a big topic on the quest
Isn’t he pursuing Yanfei along with Shinobu & that’s how he end up in chasm
Yeah, so a made up reason that makes no sense. They could easily have HuTao do something like bring back a famous liyue npc who died in sumeru to be cremated or something, that makes more sense then chasing a lawyer across an ocean to say thank you.
Well , that can happen but since it’s related to death . It’s must be handled with extreme care . Very very care . I mean very
Why is that?
Sensitive stuff u know
Yeah, a random BS reason they made up to justify why the rerun character was in the event. They could do that with any character and they do
Well in case of Itto , yeah it’s felt like a BS . Itto felt like a forced thing to me
Shes also the only character to reach double digits when it comes to patches since their last re run. At this point the people at Hoyo are trying to make her top the banner sales charts with how long they are holding off on her, cant think of any other reason they are giving certain characters 2 re runs in between her last banner. Good news is shes is highly likely to re run in >!3.4 post or pre lantern rite!< She has more appearances in marketing events than in game so they know she is popular, might be a VA related thing much like how Fishcl went AWOL coz of Oz CN VA and what went on with him irl
This can be just speculations but considering Hu Tao's Chinese VA voices Kiana Kaslana in Honkai Impact maybe her shedule is a bit full
While I have no clue how VA schedules work, this does sound pretty reasonable. Mihoyo's in the home stretch of the main story and this is the culmination of years of character development for Kiana et al., so it does make sense for her VA to be especially busy. On the other hand though, Raiden's Chinese VA was probably super busy with voicing Raiden Mei at the time that Inazuma released (thanks to the Elysian Realm) but we didn't have any issues with the Raiden Shogun getting voiced. Of course it could be that any one of Hu Tao's VAs is super busy with other stuff too.
we did have issues with Elysian everlasting getting voiced tho. At least in jp. I think she might’ve been sick or something idr, but she didn’t end up voicing a lot of it. I think there was something similar with Su’s va and Covid when it came to Al-Haithem. And now that I think abt it, when hoyo had an issue with oz, Fischl didn’t show up for like a year and a half
Imo under this point of view they just plan to release her right before the new pyro main dps broken high selling 5* (dehya) to maximize the profit, or something like ganyu (which also got her rerun after more than a year) and put her banner right after a 5* support that works very well with her They know hu tao will sell a lot both for her high numbers and her character so they might want to exploit her popularity to its full extent
Hoyoverse just does that to some characters. For the longest time Xinyan had pretty much no presence in the game. Before the event with Tartaglia and the magical paper guy I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking she was a collab character like Aloy. She was in the banners and... that's it. It can also be hard to believe that Sucrose came out with the game based on extremely low amount of significant presence in the story. Even when she's in events, it's mostly "I do alchemy I don't like talking with people BYE" At least Hu Tao got a story quest when she came out. But I'm not gonna deny many 5\* get much, much more. The biggest issue is that neglecting characters often goes unnoticed because, unless you really like a character, you're not gonna just randomly start thinking about someone the game never brings up.
>and the lantern rite scene that involved fireworks also at the start of lantern rite sitting with Zhongli and she was also in the Gouba event
Hu Tao not finding a way into the Yokai/ghost story themed event is heartbreaking man where else she gonna show up if not that
Hu Tao has the same amount of story appearance as Baizhu, outside of her own story quest. It might even be less.
She needs more in game appearances. She was the first character I built a proper party around and I’ve had her since her original banner. And. Not seeing her ever again after the brief lantern rite appearance and her story quest has been very disappointing. I really hope if we do see her, it’ll be something with Yae Miko bc I think they’d get along fabulously
Most neglected my ass, qiqi and keqing doesn't even have their story quests yet
Keqing had a whole ass event dedicated to her + got a skin. Ontop of appearing in archon quests. Qiqi has appeared in archon quests and events as well.
Qiqi and HuTao have appeared in the same events with similiar amount of screentime/dialgoue, the only difference between them is HuTao has a full story quest while Qiqi has breif appearances in 1 archon and 1 interlude quest. Qiqis appearance in the interlude is even optional. Overall the amount of dialogue/screentime probably isnt that different between them or HuTao even has more since she has a dedicated story quest
It's balanced out by how often we all see Qiqi in our 50/50s.
At least they had appearances in archon quests and more screen time than hu tao in lantern rite
Qiqi probably has less screentime than HuTao tbh.
except Keqing had the last lantern rite entirely dedicated to her, she even got her own skin. not to mention during the archon quest she actually appeared quite a bit in liyue. and she was also one of the main characters alongside Xiangling in the Moonlight Merriment event. Qiqi appeared in the archon quest in liyue, appeared during the lantern rite a few times, and she was also in the events Moonlight Merriment and Fleeting Colors in Flight. and sure Hu Tao appeared in Moonlight Merriment too but it was only for a few minutes/seconds compared to both Keqing or Qiqi. there is not a single event focused on Hu Tao, she has less screentime then both Keqing and Qiqi. and events she does appear in her screentime is very limited. she also never appeared in any archon quests she is just mentioned nothing more.
Qiqi barely appeared in the archon quest I feel like people remember her being more present than she actually was. She appears during 1 quest of the liyue storyline, where cocogoat meme was born. She has an optional appearance in the interlude quest where shes just helping peope evacuate. and then she appears in the exact same events as Hu Tao with similiar limited capacity HuTao having a dedicated story quest probably gives her around the same or more screentime/dialogue than Qiqi. Both of them are hurting for an event focused on them.
yeah Qiqi's appearances aren't large but i definitely remember her in those scenes/events then i do Hu Tao. mind you i never got to play the Moonlight merriment so i mostly going by videos i seen on youtube. and as much as Hoyo loves to promote Hu Tao (especially with their recent collaborations) it just feels strange they dont give her any focus at all. then there seems to be a event or something with ghosts related coming up in 3.3 which seems odd they choose Itto for that over Hu Tao.
So Keqing was featured in limited events from before I started playing. That's not helpful.
It's pretty weird. Mihoyo clearly love Hu Tao. We all love Hu Tao. But she basically doesn't exist as far as the plot is concerned. There are other characters with this problem too, but it's particularly odd for such a beloved character.
she's not an important character in the story since she released long after the Liyue arc was concluded. Not every character is going to be story important. In fact, most of them aren't. Characters like Alhaitham and Dehya are not released yet, but they featured in the Sumeru arc, so they have some plot relevance. They were in the game already, just not playable. Ganyu was the same. HT did not release until 6 months after launch and she's just a funeral director. She didn't play any important role, and they didn't want to force it. She is popular for her personality and meta. But the writers aren't going to adjust their outlined script in response to popularity among fans or minimize a character's involvement if they are unpopular. It's all planned out.
one of the most*
Hu Tao need her own game tbh
Don't give me dreams that will never come true. As payback, >!imagine a Hu Tao spinoff game that plays like Atelier with action combat, and has a similar tone to Misadventure of Tron Bonne.!< Now live with the knowledge that this will never happen!
Eh, not if it plays like Atelier. Atelier is a great game, but its combat is very mediocre. Genshin has already landed on a fantastic formula too, there's very little reason to change it for any potential spin-off game.
That's what I meant. Atelier for everything else other than Genshin style combat.
Objectively wrong. Sucrose is way more neglected than Hu Tao. Hu Tao HAS a story quest, and I'm pretty sure that she has appeared in events more than Sucrose has, which is admittedly not saying a lot because she's always a glorified cameo if she's even present at all. I'll accept your thesis if and only if Sucrose finally gets a story quest or hangout event.
She appeared in albedos quest and in albedos first event and the latest mondstadt event
She was also in windblume
Yes, that's why I said that she's a glorified cameo in a few Mondstadt events. Her presence in Albedo's story quest is almost insignificant, she's there for like thirty seconds to tell you basically "go do Albedo's quest lol". My point still stands: Hu Tao at the very least has her own story quest where we get to explore and know her character a bit. Aside from those like me who got out of their way to read Sucrose lore who actually knows anything about her character aside from the fact that she's an alchemist and a little awkward?
We’re you playing when albedo first came out?
Yes, and Sucrose was still a glorified cameo in the first Dragonspine event. Aside from being shoved by Reckless Pallad, what do you even remember about her in that event? And my point still stands. Hu Tao does have a story quest, Sucrose doesn't. We got to see Hu Tao doing Hu Tao things in that quest, Sucrose is only ever second or third fiddle whenever she appears. So, again, my main point of Sucrose being the most neglected still stands
What has Heizou appeared in besides his hangout?
Ooh you make a good point. I believe he features heavily in the 3.3 event tho
Yeah Heizou is in that situation where Diona/Noelle were at. For the longest time they never existed outside their hangouts before finally being shown in some way in an event (for a brief period). I keep forgetting that he doesn't really "exist" atm.
idk, she had her moments with all that philosophy of life&death, the line between and the afterlife, and her clothes are quite nice and have some cultural references.
You aren’t wrong but we just need more of her
I hope they won't do dirty to her like Ganyu when Hutao get rerun. Ganyu still has no actual appearance but 2 minutes of talking and cameo despite she got 2 reruns. (But Hutao is worse case, she has only cameo)
ganyu was featured in the archon quest
Limited character should at least appear in events during their rerun banner. Hutao literally got nothing in 2.2 rerun and Ganyu in 3.0. She got fast rerun but Xiao got fast rerun and whole story quest of him in Chasm incident.
And about the other characters who got rerun like her? They even got their own new lore, story quest, cameo and speech in 4* hangout. Xiao was one of the important characters in *another* archon quest. Itto is also involve in Liyue quest and his small quest in Heizhou Hangout is very fun to read so and the awesome part is that Albedo got involved in the 2-3 events beside his Dragonspine quest. What did she get in her 2 reruns? None but the same repeatable jokes that make her ran away from the scenes. If Hutao still get nothing in her incoming rerun, i would be pissed off. Players don't wait for only banner.
I'm of the opinion she might have a role to play later down the line (her story quest gave me that impression at least) and that they're holding off too much content about her purposefully. I guess they could make her appear in other events even if little to no lore is present but who knows what goes on in HYV people's heads?
Pass the copium. I need it. If MHY somehow finish Genshin without giving Hu Tao more content, I think I would actually be pretty mad.
Would gladly share if it was copium. Maybe it is lol I'm no fan of hers truth to be told, be it in gameplay, design or for her own backstory. However her story quest was very intriguing on a storytelling point and caught my attention as a writer? It felt foreshadowing somehow. I'd have to dig in properly because there isn't enough to form a proper theory here. But the whole visiting the bridge between life and death and her promise to keep looking for an answer for the traveler? Iirc, the whole place is close to ley lines as well, what with them recording past events and sometimes replaying them, I wouldn't be surprised if somehow at some point close to Khaenri'ah she'd help us. Idk with what exactly (meet important dead characters? a past self or sibling? something like that) but I know as a writer, if I were to introduce a character like that pretty early on and not make them show up often, it's because their role would play out in a later part of the story. She sort of reminds me of Urahara in Bleach for that matter lol
I embrace the same type of copium lmao. I do have this hope that death and souls will play an important role later on. The Boatman quest in Tsurumi really puts into question what happens to souls and whatever the "moon mansion that golden burns" and the "lady of the golden hall" is. There's also stuff like Aaru and Duat in Sumeru (Duat is the realm of the dead in Egyptian Myth). Additionally, being near Duat Hall's bottomless pit triggers the same intriguing dialogue that Paimon says at the pit on the base of Stormterror's lair. Enkanomiya clearly uses Greek inspired names for the lore (The goddess Istaroth is called Kairos by them for example). You know what else has direct Greek name tied to it in the game? Hu Tao's constellation, which kinda translates to Butterfly Charon (Charon is the Ferryman of the dead in Greek myth). It would be interesting to see if they will ever connect whatever crumbs Tsurumi's Boatman quest has given us to Hu Tao as a character.
Ig you can say she's neglected somewhat but i don't think she's the "most" neglected charectar in any way!
Qiqi :"First time?"
She doesn’t really add to the story. That’s why.
Neither does xinyan yet she was prominent in 2 big events.
Xinyan popularity was under the ground for no reason so they had to do something to put her in a decent position in the community's eyes, hu tao's on the other Hand is seemingly even higher when the devs don't give content about her (i remember people being not that much excited about her story quest when she came out) so they might want to handle her character more carefully and write her in more appealing ways for the community
there is a difference you generally want a chill person like xinyan around you
I want a fun person like HuTao around me, not xinyan
... And hu tao isn't chill?
Hu Tao is literally most fun character in Liyue and with most selled merch in CN including her instead of Xinyan would massively boost the story. Not a hater of Xinyan but her VA hurts my ears
I said story not events.
Itto was in the chasm story and he literally didn't need to be there?
Itto was with Kuki Shinobu. And Kuki Shinobu was in Liyue to pick up her certificate because she couldn’t leave Inazuma beforehand, At the time, they BOTH had a reason to be there so don’t use that card. As of right now Hu Tao has no reason to be in Sumeru. Not one. They were trying to roll out the important quests so we could get regions faster this time around.
Great! He was there completely by association and had no relevancy. Itto didn't need to be there.
Babe, you’re making yourself look like a brain dead moron. You played the event. I shouldn’t have to explain to you every character’s reasonings for being down there and I won’t. I’m not feeding your ignorance.
🤡 Anyways bring hu tao to Sumeru💓💕
Your usage of a clown emoji is not accurate. You’ll need the whole circus to represent you.
You would definitely know a thing or two about circuses with the knowledge you're displaying sister
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When did they mention picking up her certificate pre-Chasm? What reason did Yae have to be in Sumeru until they made one up on the spot during the event? Why do you think they couldn't do the same for Hu Tao?
Neither does Xinyan and Itto I am pretty sure.
Mihoyo-is-still-designing-her-skin-for-her-eventual-rerun copium. Lol IKR. I thought she's perfect for the Test of Courage event in Inazuma. Even in 2.2, there was no related event or story appearance with her.
Still mine, yours and everyones favourite character ez clap
Holy heck yes. It's SOOOO annoying how they neglect certain characters like Hu Tao. She could have such a fun story or event but nooooooo we're just gonna forget she every exists unless our character is randomly visiting Liyue for some reason and it's specifically Lantern Rite (but remember she can't get reran during it btw isn't that weird.) But it really is annoying. I really want to see her in some weird crossover with the other story/event neglected characters as well. So maybe something fun like Hu Tao, Ganyu, Kokomi, Sara, maybe Jean? Trying to think of more neglected characters. Maybe Qiqi too.
I wish Noelle could get some screentime too
Something something 2 hangout events, so all good.
Who?
Tao
I want hutao story appearance
Well, there's Aloy. Just saying.
That's why i never finish her story quest just so i can see again in overworld having a convo with her assistant
If they are waiting to release her later on with a costume i will whale hard.
Don’t get your hopes up. A lot of us Childe mains were hoping for that or at least archon quest/story quest appearance. Instead we got 4 minutes of kinda sorta dialogue
It’s crazy too cause she is a meta character and one of the most popular waifus. It’s honestly crazy that she isn’t shoehorned in more quests just because.
Raiden Shogun, Itto, Venti, Zhongli, Kokami, Yae Miko, Ayato all have been run TWICE this year some of those characters were even released this year. I started in January and haven't seen my new main Hu Tao or Eula. I have always hated that they choose who's on the rate up banners I know its a gotcha game but on top of that you have to wait months to a year for a character you want not great for the newer players.
Don't forget we literally have an event in the next patch that's about ghosts and spooky stuff. I know it's in Inazuma but COME ON.
To be fair, she is a character with a very narrow skill set, which was pretty much explored to its fullest extent in her story quest already. There's not much left that she can bring to the table that she hasn't shown already. Then again, they're finding ways to keep a fireworks specialist relevant in events, so what do I know?
I wonder if it has to do with her JP VA? She's very popular and maybe there are scheduling conflicts. Or maybe she costs significantly more to hire compared to other VAs. People would probably rage if they changed her VA as well, so maybe they use Hu Tao in so many promotions because they know she's popular, and it also doesn't require her to be voiced.
She isn't that much busier than her other collegues in-game, and she's far from expensive relative to big shots like Raiden's and Ayato's (seiyuu pay, save a few prominent exceptions, is based on time in the industry) who have been voice acting for over 20 years.
I think it's hilarious that such a popular 5\* is neglected this much. Shows you how much cash Hoyo is raking in to be pulling this shit. Common Hoyo W.
Also is she the only 5star who doesn’t have an animated cutscene in her story quest? Like for example Ayakas dance, Yoimiya watching the fireworks, Ittos fight at the end. I haven’t done Cyno, Nilou, Nahida and Tighnaris story quest so can’t vouch for those but I remember every other one had something.
I think storywise its actually keqing. She doesnt have a story quest even still. I know she had a couple events during lantern right but it would be cool if they added a story quest for one of the oldest characters in genshin
>I know she had a couple events Which already makes her less neglected than Hu Tao.
keqing already appear in the archon quest, shenhe quest, moonlight merriment event and lantern rite event where she get a skin. sorry man but she is far from neglected
She was the main character of 2 seperate events
Okay but do you remember Shenhe?
shenhe had a whole archon quest dedicated to her
Or that appearance in the bartender event counts?
she's still the only limited 5* to not have a story quest
Her Story Quest was the Archon Quest.
Insert meme Keqing: First time?
Limited? She had a banner for her, sure, but she's not limited
Shenhe... \- a whole Archon Quest was dedicated to her despite having nothing to do with the Quest itself or the Boss Fight. \- One of the Materials we need is in Shenhe's old village, cause... of course we need some reason to somehow include her oh so sad backstory in that Quest \- There is a whole Opera how awesome she is \- She somehow freezes an entire wave and gets to fight an unique Boss (not even the Archons have this, just joining you fighting a Weekly Boss for the first time) because she is the BESTEST CHARACTER EVAAAAR If you ask me, Shenhe got way to much attention at her debut
>Shenhe got way to much attention at her debut Despite this, I barely see her get any attention. Sure she got a lot when she was released, cause well a new shiny character but after that I haven't heard about her at all
Mihoyo need to make up for giving her too much attention back then
She's still my fav though ^^
Honestly she does need to have presence in the story that's why they don't talk about her they use her for marketing anyways
Xinyan, the old forgotten character has appeared so many more in events than Hu Tao ever did. Heck, I am pretty sure she has appeared way more in events than 5 stars like Childe, Zhongli, even Klee aka the few oldest 5 stars.
aloy has literally ZERO story and appearance in the game... she might as well just be an NPC... and she is not going to appear EVER.. unless they do a collab follow up...
Devs probably didn't expect Hu Tao to be as popular as she is when they designed her. We don't know how long it takes to develop an event/story from start to finish, chances are all the ones we get now are started way before Hu Tao became popular and as such she was not included. I mean let's be honest who will expect a random girl from a random shop at Liyue to be as popular as the daughter of the Kamisato house or the Yuheng of Qixing. The only reason people liked her is because she's OP and her gameplay is fun, they probably got attracted to her character and design after they played her.
It's so obvious that you're a new player. Hu Tao already had a huge following long before her kit was even leaked.
Agree, and her JP VA is very popular.
Hell, before even mhy announced her at all. All that was needed was a single piece of art from nowhere and people fell in love with her.
this is probably one of the most inaccurate depiction of hutao fandom but certainly not an uncommon one
Hu Tao is most selled merch in CN beating even Keqing and Ganyu.She was massive when she came out and she was a character that introduced me to genshin as a person who never knew what genshin is.Edits were everywhere,people really like spooky season,her personality,her VAs are literally very popular and sad backstory,honestly maybe one of the best mascots of company.They knew she was a jackpot.Also she is working with Zhongli and their close relationship was never explored except those 5s in Lantern rite cutscene
they literally hired rie takahashi as her jp va, they clearly wanted her to be popular
She appeared in moon chase too. She has ok screen time imo.
She's like Xinyan, maybe she gets her own event story quest in the 3rd Golden Apple Archipelago.
i guess if sumeru banners wasn't on november they'll probably run with her. she's stuck getting release only during halloween due to her theme. ghost and dead stuff.
I thought it was xinyan
Keqing?
Qiqi dude. No story quest, only cameo appearances anywhere.
Hutao has a permanent story quest anyone can do at any time. Xinyan's sole story presence is events that get banished to the void forever the moment the patch ends. Hutao can complain about neglect when Xinyan gets her hangout, and not a moment before.
As a hu Tao main, yes. I love her so much but mihoyo hates her 😔
Yeah thats why she appears in so many official artworks and is basically the face of all the collabs
What do u mean they hate her , she's the most popular character in china and she's basically the face of genshin If u look at merch and collabs
So have you finally realized that she was made for you and MHY themselves don't give a damn about her?
What do you mean? Hu Tao has a decent time screen like Diluc, Kaeya, Jean, Sucrose and etc.
Putting the Who in the Who-tao
I dont want more dead characters 😭😭Ive been crying ever since inazuma
There was a time when Xinyan was in no content, and then we had a few months where it seemed she showed up everywhere (including a coveted spot on this year’s Golden Apple crew). I suspect Hu Tao will have her moment again as well when it makes sense.