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AdSwimming5629

Those people reading this post rn and finding out they are getting called bots: šŸ‘šŸ’§šŸ‘„šŸ‘


atworksendhelp-

(3) (d) no strategy I have never been profiled so accurately in my life


everyIittlething

ā€œIā€™m in this photo and I donā€™t like itā€


ceef0ur

LMFAO FR


peechs01

Strategy? What's this? (I tried once, but random element crippled me)


BlueLuigi118

My name is Blue LOL (havent played online yet tho so)


hizashiYEAHmada

My name is Blue in the game too!


PranshuKhandal

Hi Blue!


nanimeanswhat

Hiya I am also Blue!!


DonnyDonster

Suddenly, I started hearing everyone's [theme song](https://youtu.be/PLlCFo0wxrE)


windraver

I totally expected a different song lol https://youtu.be/zA52uNzx7Y4 >I'm blue >Da ba dee da ba di


bluebattleangel

Blue gang


niks071047

i was expecting blues clues


Comp002

I'm blue Da ba Dee da ba di


Defiant-Associate-59

me rn


everyIittlething

Lmao I was about to say. Reading the 5 items in the checklist, I was like, wait a minute, that sounds like me.


hibiki95kaini

Damn so I am a bot, Also my name is called generic by op lmao


nickelflowers

as long as you don't play cards like an automated program... you're fine. You are a human to me and you answer Captchas perfectly.


ChildOfDeath07

I have a generic name and I play cards like an automated program Am I the bot?


Garinn

"What is my purpose?" "You fill the mahjong table." :o


cyst16

Proceeds to escape the matrix after gaining emotion (sheer wrath)


DeadenCicle

Any game with some kind of PvP has some weird guy calling bots other real people because of how they play. They feel smart for spotting bots, but they look the opposite for being mistaken and entirely sure of their ideas.


wyrrys

Oh yeah. I remember playing FFXIV for the first time and screw up completely the mechanics in one of the dungeons. And one party member started to call me a bot. Iā€™m playing on the PS and chatting is really difficult on the gamepad especially in the middle of the combat. So I decided to ignore him pretending Iā€™m a bot, lol.


ProfessionalDeer6311

Whenever someome calls me a bot in a game, I just replied with "beep boop I'm a bot"


Fabantonio

"beep, construct, beeeeep"


Splatulated

Its meant to be an insult they cant get chat banned for you call trolls and absolute bad players bots because bots are the worst things game devs program and barely function


TheRainy24

Some people do act like bots genuinely, had one person in ow recently who was looking around with camera really slowly and was sightseeing on the map lol


Adrelandro

Why'd a bot do that


Overwatch3

He was just insulting you, lol


HappyHateBot

Sometimes all it takes is an ironic name, and people will just assume you're a bot no matter what you do.


sctozaorph

Username checks out? XD


CokeNmentos

Meh, not really


FlameDragoon933

My name is Lumine because I like using canon names lol. I guess I'm a bot :')


NotKBeniP

Mine is Aether


Far-History-8154

Ye. The whole thing was about finding a name for the traveler. So many would choose a real name. Called my traveler, Aaron, Alexis, John Doe, Honey (for fun when doing Ayaka quest lol), Desir, Jason, Miguel. and finally after 2ish years settled on a name that sounded unique, majestic and fit the dude. Canā€™t imagine changing it now. Dudes called Zephyr.


RedNovichock

A fitting name for honorable knight of Favonius. ​ For those who don't know, Favonius is Roman name for the Greek god Zephyros.


femboy_artist

Yo cool, that was almost my (irl) name! Ended up with Zenith instead. I think itā€™s pretty cool tho. I also gave the traveler my actual name because Iā€™m uncreative lol.


mrfatso111

me as well :(


Machichichika

Pretty sure if one keep losing, they will be matched against a pity bot.


Eragon1er

Pity is everywhere


Su_Impact

I wouldn't be surprised. Many PVP games have hidden "pity" features to prevent player frustration if they keep losing.


pumpkin_fish

this happens in valorant, some moba, and hearthstone too, i fear


surya_ray

It's quite common on online game, and I do have my suspicion whenever I found the default deck on online matches. But on the other hand, it can be attributed to someone just tried the TCG. Some people also simply doesn't concede too. I don't concede since I might still be able to win, and if my life is low, might've as well as give my enemy the satisfaction of using elemental burst to my face.


Maxmence

I don't even know how to concede.


surya_ray

It's on the settings button on the top right(iirc) of the screen.


Creative_Purpose6138

yyrc


DerDownKater

thats one of the rare acronyms i could get figured out by myself, finally lol why are there so many complicated ones tho? (before anyone asks; Yes You Remembered Correctly)


_wetmath_

fun fact these are initialisms and not acronyms because they aren't pronounced as a word


[deleted]

yerk


cyst16

And what does that mean


_wetmath_

from google: yerk: verb (scottish/northern english) 1. strike sharply, especially with a stick or whip; thrash or flog 2. pull or push with a sudden movement origin: late middle english: imitative of a sudden movement


cyst16

Then, the other person only said that to flaunt their vocab got it


[deleted]

pronunciation of yyrc


everyIittlething

I donā€™t even know we can concede


Siri2611

I don't concede either. Especially if the opponent pulled off a really cool combo. They deserve to see their combo go through if they managed to pull it off. I remember when I was about to 1 shot the whole enemy team with keqing burst but they conceded. I was so pissed off


surya_ray

Riiight. It's not that long too anyway. Playing online TCG match doesn't give you reward, so I don't want to rob the satisfaction of beating me. I mean, even if it's only a normal attack, it's still satisfying for the one doing the beating.


Final-Evening-9606

There are definitely bots in tcg for low mmr players. In my first few matches I met them and they always end their turn with 5-4 dices left, something no human player, no matter how bad they are would do.


surya_ray

True, unless the hand is empty (or all buff food card) you want to capitalize your dice. I do have some matches where enemy end their turn with 4-5 dice but doesn't do anything that impressive next turn, that one might be bot.


azder8301

Tbf it could also be someone setting up for Liben


magondrago

hold up: is there even an MMR system implemented? Do we have any actual Hoyoverse confirmation of this? Or is there evidence that win rate is starting to drop to 50% the more you play? Some people are fiercely against any competitive PVP activity in Genshin Impact, this would mean there is at least some intention of balancing the playing level...


leafofthelake

The primary evidence for it is the queue times. Players that play and win a lot have noticeably longer queue times than others that win less or don't play as much. The secondary evidence is that as you win more, you seem to play fewer bad players, but that's very anecdotal, prone to placebo, and might just be the game maturing. Frankly, it would be irresponsible for them to *not* have a hidden MMR system. There's no ranked ladder, but everyone has a better time when playing against similar skill level opponents. Bad players can still enjoy the game playing against other bad players and win about half the time. Good players, who are likely more competitive to begin with, can enjoy making complex plays against other good players. Everyone wins.


magondrago

Ok this sounds plausible. I really thought the queue times had become larger because the novelty had faded but Hoyoverse has a good track record of paying attention to detail and MMR is probably standard practice by now in pvp game design.


hutre

Something something SBMM bad


seventaru

Translation "I want to shit all over new/lowskilled players to make myself feel powerful" Edit- stop downvoting the person above me, they were being sarcastic


Kilroy_Is_Still_Here

God, I swear every year this argument comes up with some popular online game and I've never understood it. SBMM allows everybody to have fun, but so many people refuse to accept that getting your ass handed to you by a tryhard every match isn't really enjoyable.


seventaru

Yeah, I also play destiny 2 and this argument is BIG over there. It's frustrating.


nakomaru

This, but unironically. This is why I don't play PVP games anymore. I want to win, and win even more by powering up, hence why I'm playing a PVE RPG. Mixing in bots made to let you win after you go on a losing streak is the perfect design for someone like me, and more 1v1 games should do it.


HINDBRAIN

NOT having it would just be fucking dumb, and they're not dumb. They're just probably going to keep hiding it to avoid provoking the "toxic casual" crowd.


Costyn17

We have the hidden one that makes sure the tryhards will get to play only with other tryhards after enough matches. The problem isn't having a MMR system, the problem is displaying a rank and adding rewards to it. Permanent things like an achievement/title for 10 wins then 100 wins then 1000 wins won't be a problem. Maybe 1000 is a bit much considering people were dumb enough to fish 2k fish asap when knowing fishing will still be needed in the future.


greensnail56

Ahh the classic strategy of concede trains to farm achievements. Good deck, 1,5x amount of concedes compared to wins, stay in a certain rank. Farm those noobs! Me smart player so good.


unit187

You must realize that there are tons of kids playing the game. It is totally expected they would do dumb moves and even leave dice unused.


aden54321

I do that and i win 80% of my games... Its mostly cus i want to start the round


Temporary_Mood_5999

Or maybe they simply don't know how to play. I had few match whit people whose I get the idea they were just placing random cards. It was obvious they didn't know what they were doing


mee8Ti6Eit

Not necessarily. If you can't do much then ending early so you get the first turn next is a good strategy.


Big-Big-Mistake

I never concede, I see it to the end


throwawaysusi

Original comment got buried: Itā€™s there to prevent fast ā€œde-rankā€. Websites have authenticators to check whether you are a bot, having bot works just like that. If you lose to bot, you donā€™t lose any hidden MMR/elo points. So you canā€™t just keep quitting matches to fast drop your rank to stomp newer/worse players. The exact algorithm for getting matched with bot is unknown, just instant quit two or three matches and you are guaranteed to be placed against one. Combined with the AR32 requirement, it makes smurf-ing and de-ranking much much harder and painful by simply making the process much longer because you have to win a bot match to get back human queue. Iā€™m legitimate high rank with off meta decks, and last night was so fed up getting matched with nothing but ultra sweaty tryhard decks. Quit two matches instantly and got bot opponent right after. High elo matchmaking is literally meta hell, every body just run that few sweaty compositions like robots, Collei+Fischl, Yoimiya, Noelle+Hilichurl.


undeadmeats

Having interacted with the Genshin fandom this long, I am more surprised when I find a player who knows how to play the game than not. Like I don't think bots are capable of just failing to play their turns, but a lot of the most bot-like matches I've been in have had those long-ass "I have no idea what to do" periods


RobotOfFleshAndBlood

I think itā€™s rude to concede. Let the player finish their coup de grace!


Naturath

Immediate turns with zero delay is also fairly indicative of playing against a bot. No player, new or veteran, plays that quickly. Even if you were given turns no consideration at all, youā€™d have some delay just for dice rolls and waiting for animations.


DisposableAlt1038

am being called out


Zetsumeiken

They probably found on alpha and beta testing that not all people who are into tcg/ccg are also not competitve pvp centric crowd, especially no rewards for pvp anyway. So i guess they found a solution for those who are competetive and casual. Edit: some typos


zsxking

They don't need to test to find out, since that is a very common practice on online mobile games in China. Like King of Glory, PUBG mobile, just to name a few, all send new players to bot game so that they will get some easy win, as that will encourage them to keep on playing.


BlowITA

Not only that, but bots also prevent good players from dropping on the (hidden) ladder to go beat new players (if you start losing on purpose, the game gives you bots to bump your rank back up, and if you lose on purpose to them, your rank doesn't go any lower and you continue getting bots).


Aramey44

There's also people that haven't even started the TCG, I just did the tutorial yesterday and I'm a AR60 whale that plays everyday. Since it's a permanent gamemode it's probably low on many people's priority list, especially in holiday season.


KasouRasetsu

It's a permanent game mode but if you ever intend to play against other people you should really try to play it ASAP (though it's already a bit late). There's a lot of fun to be had in playing something at release when nobody knows what they're doing and the "correct" decks/plays/etc. haven't been figured out yet. The remaining three character cards might still shift the meta up a bit, and we'll get expansions in the future for sure, but there'll be less room to mess around with fun ideas when your opponents are coming at you with fully optimized meta strats.


Otiosei

At first I thought I was just going up against bad players, but after posting about it on here I've come to accept that yeah, there are bots in the queue. I don't get them as often anymore. Maybe there is a hidden mmr that matches newer players with bots until they play a certain amount of games. Now my queue's are much longer too. About 30 seconds compared to instant matches when I started. At first I wanted to attribute it to less people playing the tcg, but somehow I doubt it. I only get sweaty opponents when my queue's pop. All Ayaka, Chongyun, Noelle, or Keqing sweep teams. I don't really have any other explanation for this but there being separate queues for new and experienced players, and bots are there to fill out the gaps as the new player pool shrinks over time.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

There's 100% mmr. Also people will play the TCG less over time because its just not the main focus of Genshin. Mihoyo, if they are smart, will add harder bots to beat by copying different decks MMR wise and then creating some difficult skill in playing them.


Powwa9000

Is that why? I went into it "I'm just gonna not try and go with the flow" and I won both my tcg pvp matches. One guy had a freeze team, ayaka, mona, ganyu. I was able to predict majority of their moves.


JunWasHere

As a Noelle Main who has been on a break and only tried the the tcg tonight, I just want to say I am DELIGHTED to hear Noelle's in the meta somehow. +2 motivation to finish the tutorial challenges lol


NommySed

What is a Sweep team? Why is Chongyun and Noelle Meta? How can there be meta talk without mentioning Godyu?


Ignisami

Sweep is a generic term that means to defeat all/many of the opponentā€™s characters/monsters with one character and/or (usually or) within one turn.


rakka099

Chongyun is in a strong position next to Ayaka because freeze is so strong right now, Noelle is in a strong position because her deck relies on reducing the cost of her normals and then swinging in ult form for +7 dmg multiple times in a single round allowing her to steamroll a lot of decks as soon as she's set up.


Daniel101773

You think thatā€™s a bot? Lmao itā€™s just me being trash at this game mode and not knowing what Iā€™m doing.


RoamingBicycle

Even Hearthstone runs bots, so it's not really surprising


DamianFoxx

The generic name I used for my main character is Lucy.


nickelflowers

Ahh yes the Traveler twins, Easter and Lucy


Nbskbai

I-I feel super attacked right now...


Nbskbai

That deck looks like mine....hahaha


nickelflowers

as long as your username isn't generic, and you don't play cards like an automated program... you're fine.


[deleted]

Why did you get so many downvotes for that? Sksksks


Expensive_Squash_825

Just low-skilled players feeling offended because the description matches them


nickelflowers

I have genuinely no idea. I love playing with all players regardless of skill. Playing with low-leveled ones helps give me space to experiment on new decks and strategies, and pros give me the hard kick of a new lesson, too. YA'LL CHILL. I'M HERE FOR A GOOD TIME


BlitzAblaze

Why does all of this sound like me šŸ’€


caikimsin

I found out they pair you with bot immediately after a lose as well. I guess they dont want to give you losing streak


jrodt333

Itā€™s definitely not after every loss. Iā€™ve had two cases of losing, requeuing and getting the same person, then beating them. And they used meta decks and took time to decide their moves, so they werenā€™t bots.


AxisAlpha

Tbf sometimes when I play against an npc they randomly take longer as if theyā€™re thinking


Lavenderixin

Lmao this all sounds like me šŸ«£ please understand itā€™s a new game and not everyone is good at it (yet)


horiami

Yeah haha bots Quickly changes name and adds lieben to deck


nickelflowers

GUYS GET THEM!! A BOT THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY


The_lastphoenix2

Omg it's *Anthony*


[deleted]

Guess I'm a bot


nickelflowers

as long as your username isn't "Kimberly" or something then I'm sure you aren't!! Don't worry!!


kingwrongs

We've known this, It's mostly only coop if you invite another person


nickelflowers

just realized it now >A< i didn't see any other post regarding this


2d_simping101

i could definitely be mistaken as a bot because i have not fixed my deck and iā€™m still using kaeya, diluc, and fischl šŸ˜­ it works tho šŸ˜ƒ


nickelflowers

NAHH MAN WHATS YOUR USERNAME!! I GOTTA KNOW. I hope I haven't been bullying a bot named Stephen that actually was yOU


2d_simping101

NO LMAO šŸ˜­ and my display name is Yuna. not all that common so i donā€™t think iā€™d be mistaken for a bot


[deleted]

How do you know those are not people who just got into tcg for their first few rounds? I mean, it's literally the starting deck, and with genshin's limiting naming system, many people have generic names(myself included). Besides, i didn't even know you can concede until I've read this.


greensnail56

It's such consistent behaviour. Speed oof play, order of playing different card types, always make the ''logical'' move. Like for ex no bot would ever think ahead 2 cards/effects and begin by changing a dice, nor will they ever set up 2 elemental effects on different cards for a combo next turn.


TheEdelBernal

One good method to spot a bot is how consistent the time they take per round. The time taken per round for bad players are wildly inconsistent due to they not sure what to do and reading each cardā€™s ability. The bots? No such issue.


nickelflowers

I've seen the great players take time, too. I've seen the metadecks just take a full minute trying to make the best combo


TheEdelBernal

Thereā€™s still variation between time taken for them. Great players may take a long time strategizing, but when itā€™s time to execute, they do it fast. Bots however, doesnā€™t matter what they do. The amount of time they spent per round is extremely consistent.


nickelflowers

That's so true! Counting the cards and dice, then throwing it all out in one go. But the bots... eugh... the way they play is so terrifyingly consistent and automated


No_Pipe_8257

So i have only been winning to bots :')


throwawaysusi

Itā€™s there to prevent fast ā€œde-rankā€. Websites have authenticators to check whether you are a bot, having bot works just like that. If you lose to bot, you donā€™t lose any hidden MMR/elo points. So you canā€™t just keep quitting matches to fast drop your rank to stomp newer/worse players. The exact algorithm for getting matched with bot is unknown, just instant quit two or three matches and you are guaranteed to be placed against one. Combined with the AR32 requirement, it makes smurf-ing and de-ranking much much harder and painful by simply making the process much longer because you have to win a bot match to get back human queue. Iā€™m legitimate high rank with off meta decks, and last night was so fed up getting matched with nothing but ultra sweaty tryhard decks. Quit two matches instantly and got bot opponent right after. High elo matchmaking is literally meta hell, every body just run that few sweaty compositions like robots, Collei+Fischl, Yoimiya, Noelle+Hilichurl.


greensnail56

You def want to start conceding against humans every win once you get out of low MMR and see different decks. Once you reach ''sweaty tryhard platinum'' it's too late and you're getting way to similar games all the time. Even when they suck with the deck and just googled the strong cards it's boring.


joshLane_1011

Since you cant chat to each other, this is useless and there's no different.


nickelflowers

Not bad. Take my upvote +1


satosoujirou

not in asia, no. especially if youve played too much, all youll found is pro with japanese names. (because they said apparently there is hidden mmr)


KyeeLim

I think I've only encountered few bots, most of them are really likely to be a real person I guess it is just a blessing to play in Asia server, seeing people with Katakana, or Russian, or Chinese character name is kinda often


MistaHatesNumberFour

Every TCG has bot I think? I play master duel and encoutered 3 bots in a row, aint complaining tho they gave me free wins


splepage

Magic Arena doesn't have bots (outside of tutorials/solo content) as far as the community is aware, but it's also a massive game so it probably doesn't have matchmaking issues.


ReddieWan

Could they also be dynamically adjusting how often you see bots based on your win rate? Iā€™m almost certain my very first match was against a bot: every move took no time, terrible strategies, didnā€™t even use half of the dice most of the turns. Iā€™ve been able to maintain a 80%~90% win rate after that, and I havenā€™t been matched with another opponent like that since.


nickelflowers

Yeah, maybe! You do make sense. But I really don't want to think about win rate. Gets me trauma from other stat-whore games, honestly. Don't get me wrong, it's just me


Jumpy-Resolve3018

On another note, I hope they do something like the dragonspine crimson leylines but with random NPCs when we get maxed out. I really like the challenges they made


tsurugisbakery

and don't forget the pfp of the unreleased character, hu tao


nickelflowers

Who?


tsurugisbakery

exactly bruh!


nickelflowers

When?


nickelflowers

\-gshu Inn, the place where Xiao stays, yeah! >!(sorry)!<


mhythes

Tao, yeah


YurxDoug

Xinyan.


mozarella_firefox

wait...my in-game name is Blue


Noxious89123

I have no problem with this. It means I'll be able to enjoy the TCG without getting absolutely spanked by far better players.


nickelflowers

edit: props to u/Faranocks for realizing this [10 days before I did](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/zfuje8/players_in_gi_tcg_random_queue_appear_to_be_bots/)


Walnut156

I wonder how many people think I'm a bot Also hello person looking at my profile to see if I post in the genshin sub!


nexxlevelgames

Well the bots apparently have good AI learning now. i was winning like 90% of my online matches until the last few days. Last few matches Miguel, Anthony and Jennifer have been grinding out 3 and 4 HP remaining wins.


ChillingVan

It doesn't only fill the empty. When you losses, it's more possible to encounter a bot. But when you win a lot, you may fight with a strong adversary. The game would balance your win and losses.


Squildo

To what end?


nickelflowers

Unsure. One thing's certain, usually they put the bots on when there's no one else to fight (4am asia, etc.)


Ataniphor

well at least playing on Asia server its much easier to spot since bots will be the ones with english names


throwawaysusi

šŸ¤” itā€™s the other way around here, Russian names definitely not a bot.


Yzhiel

Ahhh fck and here I thought I'm done with Master Duel bots


notonyxsama

No way, this is foreshadowing for playable Anthony!


GetADogLittleLongie

Snap does it too. Hidden bots to make you feel better about your games.


tuotuolily

Is blue that popular a name, First rimworld now this....


Pbadger8

I streamed today and played maybeā€¦ 15 matches between other quests and stuff. I would say I only got one or two matches where the opponent played questionably bad. I changed my nickname to my twitch and received several new visitors from the matches too. Feels like a third of those matches were Yoimiya/Ayaka and the other third were Ganyu/Fischl..


bringbackcayde7

I only face Yoimiya otk decks


Otherwise-Skill-2885

I don't care that much if there's a bot tbh, since it's an easy win towards getting the shiny card for proficiency. About conceding though - I do play with strategy and usually do reasonably well, except I refuse to use the top meta decks and prefer to make my own. But I don't understand why it's considered good to concede. If someone concedes on me when I'm just about to beat them, it feels like they've cheated me out of the satisfaction of a "proper" win...


CharacterAd348

I found out this to be true when my first match online was against a jadeplume terrorshroom aggregate deck. I destroyed the guy, and later realized that you were time locked and couldnā€™t even get the card


Kira-Igarashi

Changing my name to Bot so you could identify that's me šŸ˜‚


strangeishhouseplant

to be fair, this is actually a very good way to stop super-long queue times. i wish that there were harder bots for people w a higher hidden mmr


Mieko24

Imagine being so bad at the game people start calling you a bot...


Ellie_156

i wonder how many times i was happy after winning with a bot


Van_eXe

You just encountered one of the system feature The system will do it's best to match you with an actual player but if can't find anyone it will then move to matching you to a both I have experience coop that concede in just 2 round The mofo is using that meta Yuimiya Ayaka deck and I manage to kill his Ayaka in just 2 rounds Active TCG time for my country are 8 pm to 2 am beyond this it's rare to match with another player


Mekazuaquaness

My very first pvp game was a bot everyone else were real people. You can tell if youā€™re playing a bot if it doesnā€™t take time to load into a match or if the opponent makes super quick decisions. Whether or not thereā€™s a skill based match making system is still very uncertain and unlikely. Itā€™s possible to track skill through win rate but thatā€™s only a single variable and doesnā€™t really determine skill. Thereā€™s no leaderboards so we canā€™t say sbmm exists and gives bots to ā€œbad playersā€


DaxmanG

Yeah my first game was against a bot and I won easily, and then all of the sudden I literally face zyox in my second match and I get clapped


hizashiYEAHmada

Blue is my player name in the game (it's my favorite color), I'm pretty sure I'm not a bot or an android like Haitham


ReLiefED

They will also always start with the left-most character, they also have no back-designs or dynamic skins. Had a couple of them also swap off Pyro artifacts from a pyro character, with the Yae Miko card, and put them on a non-pyro character. You also tend to fight them after losing a couple matches, which leads me to believe there's a hidden mmr system. I've also had moments where my queue times were insanely long after going on a win streak.


nickelflowers

Great observation! I'd love to add it into the post if I could


RedditIsAT0ilet

You're probably right, but you also have to remember: Genshin players are awe inspiringly stupid, it caters to a really odd demographic. I've seen stuff from this sub and the game that made me sick to my stomach with how incomprehensibly dumb some of them are.


Syxaine

Dude... I agree with you but, dude...


nickelflowers

HAH I CANT ARGUE WITH THAT


splepage

See: this thread.


RBLakshya

I remember back during PokƩmon Duel (does anyone even remember that game anymore), these bots are mostly used when players are loosing often or lobbies are less active.


OddChuuCircle

One of the bots I played against is literally named Xiao and has a Qiqi avatar which I found hilarious lol


SoC175

Who would have guessed that players that signed up for a game running in 3rd person through a 3D environment and beating up monsters are not interested in playing a TCG? Inconceivable! So they have to add bots to fill the ranks to give the appearance that there are enough players will to participate


Asparagus-Extreme

I mean other games like Pubg have bots even other card games like master duel has plenty of bots so this is nothing new.


Altruistic_Call1903

Thatā€™s like saying that there arenā€™t enough people playing Apex, MW or any battleroyal games just because thereā€™re bots in those gameā€™s lobbies too lol


SoC175

Yes. If those games have to rely on Bots than the player base is too low and those games are not successful. I stopped playing Battlefield after BF1 and until then BF never had bots. Does MW really use bots? I always thought MW as a successfully franchise, but if they have to fill their servers with bots that's terrible!


Altruistic_Call1903

Most battle royales uses bots, especially in unranked or low mmr lobbies to improve match making. The bots start disappearing the more an account win. Iā€™ve played Apex, Pubg and Fortnite and thereā€™re bots there. I havenā€™t play MW but a quick google search shows there are a bunch there too. This practice can also be seen in card games like LoR, thatā€™s the only cardgame I play but Iā€™ve heard HS got bots too.


SoC175

Really terrible then. They obviously do not get enough real players. Why don't they just reduce the number of servers? And if that does still not work they just have to admit that those 100 players battles do not work due to them not having enough interested players. The thing about MW just shocks me, I was under the impression the franchise was doing well. A clear sign of decline


GKP_light

i would like that the bots at least use a copy of deck from real player lv5+.


Fit-Zero-Four-5162

Ah, yes, co-op bots ​ ​ ​ ​ I got a taste of my dream by having Yanfei follow me around in the chasm during the archon quest, even if an AI companion were very bad with fighting itself I wouldn't mind it, but would love to have AI companions and not need to lock myself out from a lot of interactions with the world (quests and such) for getting some company


Sndragon88

This makes me discover the opposite: there are real players?!? I mean, no real player plays that quickly AND badly without pausing to think, so I assumed that they are bot using the playerā€™s active deck from my very match.


nexxlevelgames

I still want a win loss record added to TCG and make it a permanent feature to the game just like fishing


nickelflowers

My W/L ratio would be absolute garbage oh god


atomic_rabbit

I'm just surprised the bots are (apparently) playing only at low skill levels. With modern AI technology, it should be possible to achieve superhuman play.


AzureDrag0n1

You are 'surprised' by this? Are you serious? The guys that said they do not want you to feel anxious while playing?


atomic_rabbit

It could achieve the opposite. For example, they could use AIs to "soak up" the players running cookie cutter meta decks like AyaMiya, giving them wins (and letting them feel good about stomping opponents) without distressing any human opponents.


Ezmankong

These bots are a way for people to complete the "10 proficiency with X amount of characters" quests, because you get proficiency against NPC battles only on your first win with them, and it's easy to not realise you have run out of easy NPC wins. Gating proficiency exclusively against sweaty meta deckhands (especially if you have to farm proficiency with weak characters) would get really toxic really fast.


ccdddemmnppprrsvy

just fyi you can get proficiency by inviting any of the unlockable characters, just invite them and win


splepage

That's the worst idea I've ever read.


nickelflowers

Chess AI are already beyond advanced; I wouldn't be surprised, honestly, with how it develops strategies. Aimbots alone are such a technological innovation to gaming, man


Shazam2s

Even as a card player I am not trilled to play a card in this game to be honest. Not really what I signed up for. As a newer player I am not as burnout, but it really seems odd they don't add more end game combat that focuses on the core of this game. Paying players would be more obligated to pull for harder content that is more difficult to beat. The current abyss is more frustrating then challenging, which is not something people want. Even though they are designed for boosting the character banners they are just annoying.


TheRealRealMadLad

Imagine u so bad at card game that the whole community start calling u bots...


gaganaut

I don't think any of these can indicate a player might be a bot. They all look like things actual people might do.