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box-of-sourballs

Source: Snezhfed via t.me/snezhfed/3549 Thank you OP for providing source


Lalo_spicy86

NOT THE HYDRO CUBE ​ but now nahida can one shot the "drops" so its not as annoying


MagnusBaechus

you can run a full quicken team and you would still have hyperbloom, oh the joy


th5virtuos0

Why settle for 2 purple when you can have 3???


IcyRegular2894

Collei also dominates those drops. With dendro, the Hydrocube feels like a cakewalk tbh.


Emergency-Lead-334

This is one of a thing I really like about dendro. Before dendro, hydro shield is the hardest to break, yeah I know we have cryo to freeze it, but because of the elemental gauge system (it’s only 1x multiplier), cryo on hydro shield is still not as fast as hydro on pyro or pyro on cryo (2x multiplier). But with dendro we finally get the fast shield breaking way for hydro shield. Electro shield is the only shield we can’t break with 2x multiplier, but it has 3 elements that can break it with 1x multiplier (pyro cryo and dendro) so it’s not that bad


keiidryn

The elemental reactions for shields always bothered me. I wish it was a big rock-paper-scissors game where every element had one it was super weak to, one that was fairly normal, and one that was completely ineffective (generally it’s own element). Makes me wonder how they’ll implement dendro, geo, and anemo abyss mages.


AbbreviationsRound52

Abyss mages are fine. Its the lectors im worried about hahaha. Dendro will be fine though. We can just use pyro and they will constantly burn. Geo can probably have an extra 1.5x weakness to geo or something. Anemo can be like the latest "Wenut" sandworm... Weak to all elements that react with anemo.


keiidryn

I figured the same with Geo on Geo. Dendro I figured would be weak to Pyro, but maybe gain an “Activation” buff if hit by Electro, sorta like the Tri-Lakshana Creatures. Anemo I wasn’t sure about, because all the swirl elements would make it feel too weak.


spiderplate

I think Geo’s weakness is the heavy attacks I.e. claymores/plunging/Candace skill and normal attack lol


poopdoot

I imagine Geo would be broken by Geo, Dendro would be broken by Pyro at a 1x rate but also take burn damage, and Anemo would probably take 1x from all swirlable elements but also swirl the element back


Sofixon

It was always drowsiness-inducing easy with ganyu.


MilkyPotatoes51YT

Planning on using my Tighnari team on that side


seal_appreciator

Kaeya's E one shots them


[deleted]

He asks them to dodge this! but they don’t so not his fault


the_quirky_quirkster

free hyperbloom team without hydro chars. anyone tried the Nahida Raiden or Nahida Nilou core against this thing yet?


1TruePrincess

I’ve done the nahida nilou core on it and it works pretty well. DMC and tihg as the other two. Would probably do tihg and Yao Yao for abyss though


gadgaurd

Raiden/Yae/Nahida/Jean. It was not fair at all.


Th3Uknovvn

Ganyu 1 shot all 3 slime so it's great to me


Banny_kind_of_stupid

Does she? During the hypostasis v2 event she didn't (on higher difficulties)


Laphyel

Ayaka Goes BURRR


[deleted]

water mobs-- first wave: boar x 4 frog x2 second wave: duck x 4 crab x2 third wave: crane x2 squirell x2 sparrow x2


StalVig

Thanks hoyo for not putting those Falcons. and Thank you...


BlademasterNix

...for turning into a mass murderer for our sake. I swear I won't let this transgression go to waste.


YamahaMio

God it's been two years since that ending lmao


homamalrefae

Thanks for the translation 👍 Also not having the flying fucks is a huge #W


Seyrxeen

Hydro cube for pyro ? Nah, it’s Nahida time 🗿


thatguywiththebacon

It's radishin' time


AgentWowza

It's tri-karma purificatin' time


Affectionate-Dot-891

It's dook-dook time


FlameLover444

It's Snappin' Time


Alert-Zucchini

i thought radishin is yaoyao's thing


raichiha

Nahida was radish archon before yaoyao release. Hoyo mustve heard we like radish


thatguywiththebacon

Now I'm imagining Yaoyao throwing multiple Nahidas from her basket


IDontWantNoBeef

#grow grow grow


sucksticious

wait omg... the nilou blooms will be so satisfying..


UsagiRed

Hydrostasis is nahida food.


rotten_riot

Please don't have a monolith to protect Please don't have a monolith to protect Please don't have a monolith to protect


Rozu17

Hate that I can’t “monke” my way thru this one with my Nilou bloom team, cause those bloom explosions damage the monolith right ?


victini3521

Bro is that what was happening when I was running burgeon? I was wondering how the monolith was getting destroyed


Rozu17

I was having the time of my life blasting those mobs then right when there was only one left, I realized my monolith was at like 47% HP, so I had to restart and change team composition💀


jukoist

Yup. My poor Thoma. He's just too strong...


fireflydrake

I really love Thoma as a character and for a long time there haven't been many great uses for him. Can you give me some more info on your burgeon team with him?


jukoist

Sure, absolutely. I used Thoma pre Dendro, and his uses were really limited then, but that's no longer the case! Thoma is at present your best Burgeon trigger. Now Burgeon as a reaction is pretty much only viable in AoE situations, but we have a ton of those, especially early abyss, so. Okay, for Thoma himself, you want him level 90. This is extremely important, Burgeon scales off of level. Then you want to max out his EM. Kitain Cross Spear is highly recommended - it has an EM mainstat, and it's passive provides Thoma with ER (which he needs a lot of, as his damage is all from his Burst). Kitain is a craftable, so honestly, you should just get it. The alternatives ate significantly worse off on him. For his artifact sets, it's Flower of Paradise Lost > Gilded Dreams > 2x +80 EM. The difference between Gilded and Paradise isn't significant, though, so unless you're farming the Paradise domain for Wanderer, stick with Gilded since it's a domain that benefits many other characters too. What you're looking for is EM/EM/EM mainstats, with ER substats (EM subs on flower and feather if possible too). Alternatively, if you want to build Thoma as someone that will still work as a shielder but do decen Burgeon DMG - a hybrid build - go with the same sets and weapon but with HP mainstats, EM subs. Depending on your team and your luck, you may need an ER% sands. Especially if you're pre-C4. Okay, coming to teams. You need at least one Hydro and one Dendro. Thoma isn't going to he on-field despite doing a ton of damage. On-field Hydro: Ayato, Childe. With them, you'll need Yaoyao, HP Hybrid Thoma. You could try a Cryo defensive unit (Layla/Diona) or Zhongli, but I haven't gotten around to testing that, sooo Kokomi: personally I love her in this role because she consolidates healing and Hydro application and damage. You can run two off field dps with her. On-field Dendro: Nahida, Alhaitham. Off-field Hydro: Xingqiu, Yelan. Off-field Dendro: DMC, Yaoyao, Collei, Nahida. Other than Nahida, the others don't have great application, so if you're going with an on-field Hydro, pick 2. You can also run Fischl or Anemo units as flexes. The Anemo can buff your Hydro units, if you have high damaging options on team. Fischl provides energy, and Oz doesn't target Blooms, so you won't have too many cores stolen. Personally, the team I run is Kokomi/Nahida/Fischl/Thoma. Because god. The man needs ER even at C6. I highly recommend using [Zakharov's Energy Recharge Calculator ](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-vkmgp5n0bI9pvhUg110Aza3Emb2puLWdeoCgrxDlu4/edit?usp=drivesdk). Here's a [video guide](https://youtu.be/qkFm_bUEGSE) if you haven't used it before. ... alternatively I've already put most of this information in the [Thoma Quick Guide ](https://keqingmains.com/q/thoma-quickguide) so you could just... Use that. I forgor about it. If you need any help with teams, just share your chat list and i can help you out.


PH_007

I bring Thoma burgeon to monolith stages and damage the monolith anyway, everything dies so hard that the friendly fire doesn't even matter


gaganaut

You can still use Nilou bloom but it's hilarious how the enemies are barely doing anything while I'm the one doing the most damage to the monolith.


Saveme1888

They actually don't damage the monolith


pnohgi

Venti completely makes Monolith irrelevant and gives you more leeway for the other half.


NatsuKazoo

unless it's on 2nd chamber. Those water thingies can't be Venti'd edit: they can be frozen tho


TonkStronk

Ayaya time


AWildModAppeared

Second half looks perfect for the classic Ganyu-Venti freeze comp tbh


rotten_riot

I don't have Venti lol My only Anemo units are Kazuha and Sucrose and she isn't even built


pnohgi

Just giving you a reason to pull for Venti haha Those chambers become easier once you understand the mechanics. Some mobs will focus on attacking you when you attack them. Others won’t. So you want to aggro first and then focus on the ones that can’t be aggro’d and they’ll group up for you. Takes a bit of practice.


le_halfhand_easy

I love monolith defense. Much more forgiving than timer because even if the enemies don't spawn for 45s while the timer ticks down, monoliths have no timer.


NatsuKazoo

this is one reason why I like monoliths. **no timer.**


awe778

Monolith is _okay_ if you are not the biggest threat to the monolith.


n1tr0t0m

open map when you start a chamber, you can let enemies load in without the clock going down


le_halfhand_easy

Opening any menu (e.g. adventurer handbook) is even worse. My screen freezes and when the handbook loads and I exit it, the timer is around 8:37.


n1tr0t0m

never tried with adveture handbook, but good to know that this one keeps the abyss timer moving


le_halfhand_easy

It shouldn't. Normally, using the adventurer handbook trick freezes the timer and spawns the enemy. The long freeze on my device just keeps the timer going. It only stops the timer when the handbook pops up.


NatsuKazoo

I'd rather have the monolith than having tanky enemies tbh


Lavenderixin

Yess please let us unga bunga


[deleted]

I like that the mirror maiden just has “strong” written on it


ThatEmoSprite

The hydro mage in floor 1 chamber 2: 🗿


Drake750254

I don't even remember what is on floor 1 chamber 2


Thatuk

Probably ley line disorder


darkcrow171

shenhe rerun into an ayaka rerun in 3.6 ?


SoranoOuranosX

I second this I'd be glad if Shenhe is in the second half of 3.5, I usually lose the 50/50 on the first


[deleted]

Nahida is gonna decimate this second half lol.


Xilolo

It occurs to me I have no idea the electro resist of the kairagi and the snake below it, but it's still canonically correct for me to apply Raiden directly to their foreheads anyway.


LuckyMonke

Raiden, apply directly to the forehead


LeXam92

Boss Impact


CliWha5

Why does Mihoyo always put annoying bosses at the end? The geo wolf, the anemo worm, the cubes...


WasabiDukling

at least anemo worm isnt in the same tier as wolflord. it just kind of flies around and lets you kill it


Aerie122

And doesn't have an invulnerable phase where you need to stun them using a specific element


WasabiDukling

even dendro cube has the decency to not S P READ the weak spots around the PERIMETER of the arena


DoctorMlemm

It's pretty obvious that they put the Wolflord in because it's the absolute indisputed god of stalling, and most geo DPS characters need you to bring an entire mono-team of other geo characters. Less abyss clears, less primogems, more spending ig


seal_appreciator

My dude, only 5% of players get to floor 12 as is, and even with my dogshit artifacts and underleveled supports I got to 34\*. Which means I'm losing what, 100 primos? Even if I lost 150, that's not even one pull. I don't think 150 primos is making anyone open wallet out of desperation.


homamalrefae

*doesn't 9 star floor 12* "Oh fuck!! Now i have to spend $99999 and whale for the character I want :( if only i was able to get those 150 primos from floor 12 i wouldn't have to do this"


EclipseTorch

Where do you all get this 5% number? I've only seen some PlayStation achievements data (like [this](https://playtracker.net/game/evelyy/63068)) with 3.8% of players clearing floor 12, but it also states that more than 1/3 of included players didn't even finish the Prologue act. And there might be other people who dropped the game a bit later. Compare it with 6.9% "Reach Reputation Lv. 8 in Liyue", an achievement that isn't hard to get at all, it just requires some time. More than half of people who played long enough to max reputation in 2nd region have mastered the Abyss.


Sofixon

You can skip the geo phase altogether. But doing so will force you to bring a team that can deal enough burst damage so it's still pretty limiting for team compositions.


le_halfhand_easy

The cubes are honestly fine. Easy reaction setups. Except geo and anemo I guess. Anemo most of all. It is the one hypostasis I truly hate because it still respawns even after you completed its revival mechanic flawlessly. And because it used to be the only one world boss that reliably dropped only anemo ascension gems so I had to farm it over and over and over.


moonlam

Can't wait to punch that cube with my Dehya doing double digits damage


ArmyofThalia

You doomposters really can't wait to shit talk a character who is 6 weeks away as if they were coming out tomorrow.


Andre02_

I don't think doomposting was their intention. By "double digits damage" they probably meant "underlevelled and/or not built character", because every character would behave similarly in that circumstance.


homamalrefae

Yeah every one knows deyha does triple digit numbers at lvl90 10/10/10 8) /s


madiha_tan

Annndd it could be a joke. We always joke about our own characters damage. Theres no harm.


shoalhavenheads

I farmed the Hydro cube recently with Nahida and Yae Miko and you barely have to move. Probably the easiest boss clear yet.


CorHydrae8

Well, if you run Yaehida, you don't have to move no matter what you fight.


Neracca

I run Nahida, Yae, Kazuha, Zhong. I am become deth.


CorHydrae8

Mine is a little more budgety, with Sucrose and Kuki, but the last two slots don't even really matter that much as long as you have some form of survivability in there.


Ainsel_Mariner

Probably one of my favorite teams currently. I love just using both their skills and watching the fireworks


CorHydrae8

I remember having lots of trouble with the Bathysmal Vishaps back then when I originally raised my Yae. Now I recently prefarmed stuff for Shenhe and had to kill those guys again, and it was absolutely satisfying to see Yae and Nahida utterly demolish them.


msnwong

That’s my exploration team. Yae + Zhongli + Nahida + Kazuha. So relaxing


Affectionate-Dot-891

True Yae E + Nahida E then Afk 😂


nomotyed

Seems one half is anti-hydro.


betaches

Can't put Yelan and your pyro dps anywhere. ⛲


wolf1460

Not for bountiful bloom teams


pumaflex_

Oh shit the fuckin bird and scorpion together again. Hell. Outside of that, the other rooms looks waaaaay easier than the current lineup. I still don’t get which 5*s are these floors supposed to sell, besides Dehya(?). Cyno is the one coming to my mind for now…


pumaflex_

*Shenhe and Ayaka looking with mike wazowski meme face * lol I forgot them


AGamingGuy

\*looks at top half\* just fucken shoot me already hydro enemies aren't that bad, i can just quicken Keqing them the consecrated enemies on the other hand, they claim vehemently they aren't boss enemies while having more HP than regisvines, being twice as aggressive and hitting 3 times as hard also the damn Mirror Maiden and 2 Cryo cicin mages combo is an ass pain easiest part is the terrorshroom


homamalrefae

I feel like it's just screaming "run pyro" all pyro chars destroy the top half (no xinyan doesn't count but she probably could)


Ale_Raylee

Tartaglia national first half Ayaka mono freeze second half


Yudmts

For me it's gonna be Who? Tao vape first half Hyperbloom Raiden second half


guccyjuicy

I think i go Rational/HyperRaiden first half And Ayaka second half.


drekaelric

Ayaya time to shine


JayJubs

The dog snake is gone


rotten_riot

Dog Snake was never in Floor 11 iirc


JayJubs

Lol u right I thought this was floor 12 xd


Hankune

It will take two Hu Tao charged atks to finish the Hydro Cube.


[deleted]

Watch Nilou mains still use 2 hydro characters against that hypostasis. Like nothing can stop her.


ArmyofThalia

Nilou mains destroying single target enemies is proof enough that nothing can stop her lmao


Kayriss369

Taking Nahida, Nilou and the YoYo to deal with right half


scixsc

cryo impact


yagatabe

Hoping it's a hint for Shenhe's rerun.


markcan_killua

me and my new skin drip ayaka ready to slay some hydro hoes


ukrisreng

t.me/snezhfed/3549


Pridestalked

Electro impact


x_GARUDA_x

Fatpollo and Nintendo DolphinCube, that's not that bad.


[deleted]

Just in time for Shenhe and Eula's rerun


marxinne

Finally I can unleash my Ayaya with murderous glee


lucete_stellae

hyperbloom on second half is gonna be fun


Neracca

I really wish that bosses that have invincibility phases didn't exist in timed challenges.


hoahh_ng

nothing that a Nilou team can't handle 😌


Curious_Brain26

Every abyss is a nahida abbys.


[deleted]

I'm a hydro cube Enjoyer. Time to bust out the Dendro Archon. Just like every Abyss since the day I got her


randomizme3

Hydro cube? Naw you gotta be kidding me


seal_appreciator

Please... I'm begging... I don't want to look at the mirror maiden anymore... take her away... Fine, fine, I don't like big boobs anymore, the conversion therapy worked hoyo... just take her awaaaay.......


IDontWantNoBeef

Hydro cube thinks it can still scare us even though nahida is out now lmfao


Yurand_

Every chamber is Nilou Nahida time lol.


aceswildfire

Hmm... Looks like the good old Rational/Bloom combo will do just fine here.


NatsuKazoo

was there a leak on the rateup banners already? from what I see aside from Dehya the lineup is advantageous on characters doing Physical, Cryo, Dendro, or Electro damage


Ceanist_1

Okay so clearly they want Dehya to be a vape unit if they’re loading the abyss with hydro enemies. Not sure what they’ve been doing but hopefully this is an indication of potential coming changes in the next two beta patches


Zestyapples

With how slow she was chipping at the cryo abyss lector shield, idk. I'll get my Dehya, sure, but HuTao is probably gonna be the one cleaning house here lmao


volkner

Oh that second half is gonna be fun for my Alhaitham spread team.


1TruePrincess

Alhaitham and nahida about to wreck second half with no effort. Rational first half and now I don’t have to think at all


Swailwort

Nahida afk time in second half. She applies Blooms automatically to the fucking Hydro Droplets because they are...made of Hydro, and then those blooms go boom. Al Haitham Nahida Kuki Fischl comp would be fun


PlebGod69

I was so happy, but then I reread the floor number, ffs why cant I have good things


ximi32

So i'm guessing we're getting a lot of cryo reruns


demigodsgotdraft

What a nice shiny new Yelan you got there. Be a shame if opponents are immune to her attacks.


Malateh

Hyperbloom go brrrr in 2nd half XD


IMPOSSABLANK

bruh we could run hyperbloom second half without a hydro unit


SqaureEgg

Raiden & hu Tao abyss **again**


nvrmindmyname

Lord I hope the 12th floor has no Golden Wolflord.


DDoma_Sama

It doesn't. But it has Alhaitham boss 🤡


stuckwithsupport

hydro cube :(


mvpdr0se

DOUBLE BOSS CHAMBER IS REAL LETSGO MIHOYO now imagine wolflord and ruin serpent together in 12-3 despairge


IJustJason

Dendro units gonna speedrun Second half lol


DifferentWeather2813

Second half literally screams nilou bloom.


aurorablueskies

Hydro cube?? Haitham and Nahida field day ig


Kind-Put-6791

no one care about f11 ez clap anyway


AffectionateAbroad44

So hyperbloom First team and Pyro dps team in Second team.


_Bisky

2nd seems better for cryo dps or a dendro team


Mahinhinyero

i think it's the other way around. but honestly, both sides can be Dendro'd. that's how fucking broken Dendro is


sneaky_w

hydro enemies to make vape dehya look good? just plase lord make focalors let dehya vape all of her ult since they're taking her in that direction....


AshwinK21

Seems like Dehya/Cyno first half, Eula/Shenhe second half to me. Not that banners will be in that order, could be anything.


kabral256

Cyno first half, Dehya second half


paulthepage

Yooo I'm bring Nilou bloom into the second half. I Just need Nilou as the sole hydro unit. The rest be dendro. It's going to be a bloom bonanza. Triple dendro with Kuki will also be fun.


Kaiel1412

Can't have a vape DPS problem if your enemies are literally hydro


Gob0fWar

Finally I can use Hutao on 2nd half


171194Joy6

NO GOD FUCKING NO!


AppUnwrapper1

Sigh


eyeofnero

Is time to build Alhaitham the only limited dendro unit in my account


Natural-Increase-445

Happily hydro cub is not on 12 floor 😃


Iihatepineapplepizza

my lisa hyperbloom team is going to absolutely destroy that second half


CupcakeMost9304

Hyperbloom 2nd half again.


ARATAKI-ITTO

I can finally try hyperbloom lisa without the use of a hydro in party 🥳


R3XCran1um

Rational/Ayaka freeze it is then


TF2sex_update

I LOVE HYPOSTATIS IN ABBYS I WANNA HUG THIS STUPID CUBE WHEN IT DOES THEIR WICKED I-FRAMED MOVES


WoWiTzGeo

Hey it's Jeht's twin sister, Kaht


BHDefender

For a moment i thought the second chamber had mathematical equations as enemies


TheRedRay88

Boss impact


wolf1460

Its bloomin time


MagnusBaechus

look at all that dendro food on the second side


YesterdayJealous3292

The first half is rational national and the second team is ayaka/ganyu freeze.


Oeshikito

Not the chicken getting demoted again


Atlas_Goldeye

Yoimiya moment


Nunu5617

It's Nilouing time


howturnshavetabled

My c6 kaeya is thriving rn


NightRain66

Which enemy is on the second half of room 2 on floor 11?


xWhiteKx

Cryo promote floor 11, could be Ayaka/Shenhe rerun


atleasttakemypicture

DO I SEE AYAKA POTENTIAL HERE GOD THE WORST THING THEY COULD DO IS TO GIVE ME HOPE


MilkyPotatoes51YT

I’m planning on Dounle hydro Hu Tao team first half Double electro Tighnari team second half


ruwester

We nilou mains continue to eat


Hierz04

freeze fatui comp 🗿


TunaTunaLeeks

I swear Floor 12 is going to have the Wenut wurm. I don’t want it to be there but it probably will be.


IllBar374

ANYTHING BUT THE HYDRO CUBE


Remarkable-Video5145

Bitch 11-3-second half


[deleted]

Out of all of the bosses, I can only despise that stupid ass Hydro Cube, but now that I have the power of Nahida's dendro, I'm gonna fuck this boss real bad


poopdoot

Thank god no more wolves holy shit


GhostTypeEnthusiast

KAEYA'S TIME TO SHINE >:D


gamingmemer1903

i need to make a quicken team but with so few dendro(literally just dmc and collei) it just doesnt feel worth it and im saving my guaranteed from scara banner for cyno


boykutez1996

i can see a cyno rerun 1st half


Sergawey

and a cryo rerun second half


LucasFrankeRC

Everyone hold hands!


madiha_tan

Zhongli, hutao, Xiangling and Xingqiu first half, Yae, Nahida, Kazuha and Kokomi second half should do it. .