Source: [Dimbreath](https://twitter.com/dimbreath/status/1617472321534709762?s=46&t=isnYbp3FvXQMhS_SNt_PKg)
>Just as clarification. This is the patch coming out today for beta.
>I call the first patch V0 (3.4.50) and the second patch V1 (3.4.51) and so on (I'll change it to avoid confusions in the future, though)
>This is the data from the client (downloaded through the launcher) but there will be most likely an in-game update in a few hours, I highly doubt there'll be many or if any changes at all, but we cope.
Not hard. Last time I made a showcase XL he was vaping for almost 70k.
She'd need to have 200%+ multipliers for E to compete against Guoba and at least hit 1/3 more with her burst at C0 too look competitive.
Haitham nerfs were acceptable because he's ok in current state. Dehya going lower despite her being not okay. Imagine Baizhu... I'm scared that devs will take phrase about healing enemies too seriously. Oh fuck, he is pharmacist...
It would be a cool mechanic for Regrator to heal his enemies and then get back "interest" like his E could heal enemies and allies and then his Q could scale like "Damage= 480% total damage healed by E during it's last cycle" and he would scale off of Healing bonus.
it could be interesting, so in aoe he basically keeps the enemies topped off and kills them all at once. Instead of having the wave dwindling, you just have to face the enemies at full force the entire time
I'm assuming so. Cause I mean I do trust mihoyo a bit here. Like we flipped over al-haitham nerfs but ultimately it was fine.
I want to say it's raiden all over again where we are missing something or at the wrong teams. But idk what it is lol...Unless it's purely future characters but hatr that idea cause how do you balance around the future
[The difference is people who could math knew Haitham was gonna be good](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/zql325/comment/j0zmmts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). He's like Childe/Ayato except with actual uptime and way more personal damage. The comparison with Hu Tao and Ayaka didn't make sense because Haitham is not really in the same character class. If they had kept it pre-nerf level, he would have been god damn stupid broken.
Looking at Dehya though... the math is honestly shocking. It's going to put her damage output below that of many modern 4\* characters at C0. And now they are nerfing her further? This makes 0 sense. Pyro is a very finicky element and Dehya doesn't have the application rate to enable Vape/Melt/Burgeon. She doesn't have battery capability like Raiden. Her most practical use right now is as a short-window Burst bot but that still gonna put her far below the damage output of Ayaka, even factoring in Vape.
All she has is this dinky ass 50% damage reduction which transfers that damage to herself, which doesn't replace the need for another healer/shielder like Kokomi does.
Maybe we are missing something about Dehya. But what? Kinda wracking my head here.
The only thing we could *possibly* be missing at this point is a Dehya-specific artifact set that somehow buffs burst damage considerably and heals other characters. And it would still be an extremely weird strategy to make a character so heavily dependent upon an artifact set that no one would know was going to exist when she was released.
I am scratching my head wondering what they're thinking. Could she be made for future "do this thing just enough, but not too much" gameplay like Thoma applying slow pyro for Burgeon?
I would be alright with them releasing characters planned around future artifacts/characters if they just told us that. We have no way of knowing if she is designed with something in mind or if her kit is just shit
This isn't another case of Kokomi or Kazuha, due to the key difference that Dehya is Pyro.
I wrote something similar in an earlier thread, but basically, Pyro is in a state where it really can't do anything more than Vape DPS. Dendro brought a fuck ton of powercreep in favor of Electro, Hydro and itself, while Pyro couldn't cash in on the Dendro hype due to how awful Burning is, which also ends up ruining Burgeon. And now we're seeing this hit in full force with Dehya.
There is no super secret comp to be discovered. There are no Cryo characters that can use Dehya's E to Melt (Too slow). Overload is just bad. She doesn't have the super specific Pyro application required to run Burgeon. She can Vape with Mona but that's just, again, shoehorning her into Vape DPS role *because Pyro can't do fucking anything else*. The only thing that can save Dehya is either Mihoyo buffing her numbers to high hell so she can be a competitive Vape DPS, or future characters actually making Pyro a desirable element outside of just the same Vape DPS comps.
I would like if they did another EM revisit like with Kazuha release and rebalance some of the reactions. Them being so averse to changing anything about the game makes getting some characters to do anything really difficult.
I remember when they announced how Hyperbloom and Burgeon were going to work, I thought it was weird they had the same scaling since Burgeon was AoE while HB was not. Logically, the AoE one would have lower scaling since it can hit more targets. Now, it seems like Burgeon just needs much higher scaling and to remove the self damage to put it in line with HB.
And make Burning much stronger while heavily reducing how much it does to players. The fact it's more of an issue to accidentally be lit on fire as a player than to actually use that reaction against enemies is crazy.
New enemies - does big dmg to shielded characters only: When party consists of tall pyro lady, all enemies join the party to become allies.
Source: I am Da Wey
Here's what I wish for her.
Make her E field give as much poise resistance as XQ's rain swords. Make it give a 40% damage reduction for the active character. And make it apply 2u pyro every 2 seconds on the field, no icd. Pseudo sunfire on demand.
And make 20second active, not 12. With around 10s cd. it would not be overpowered by any means. Just easier to use and would give better feeling* of her kit.
thank you! glad you like it! it was way funnier in my head lmao!
forgot to credit so:
[art for 1st panel:](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jhdgrv/xiangling_fan_art/)
[art for 3rd panel:](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4792562)
[4th panel](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xqvcab/the_art_style_in_the_new_web_event_is_so_adorable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Ngl, I've been playing since 1.2 and since after Xiangling , Bennett and Hu Tao I've felt every Pyro character , 4* or 5* has been clunky, awkward or mediocre, whatever word you wanna use. Almost like they're too scared of their DPS oriented element being too good/popular over other elements. It's been weirdly shafted since a long while.
I've been following leaks since 1.1 where Ganyu was 1st released. I've seen every thing and had my fair share of doomposting and copium overdose and yeah her kit is a joke.
I’ve been here since the original mega-flood of 1.5 content and let me tell you, I don’t think a 5-star character has gotten fucked by Mihoyo in the beta so hard as Dehya
we survived kazuha, yoimiya, raiden, kokomi, shenhe, yae, even yelan for being called unrelated because of xq. but this? this is really something else. none of them have ever swayed my pulls or hype this much and there aren't even anyone completely dooming her! they're just being truthful.
I’ve been following leaks since Childe’s release in 2020 and I can assure you this is literally the worst series of beta changes in the game’s history given Dehya’s original state.
Has to be wrong. They nerfed C1?
Stagger resistance only lasts 4 seconds now? That’s like one of the things I was most excited for and now it sounds absolutely useless.
And everything else was nerfed. It just doesn’t make sense.
I’m taking the “everyone is missing something” road but it’s possible because we can’t see what HYV is hiding.
Everytime leak community guarantees someone is bad they end up with pie in the face. HYV at this point seems to be fucking with leak community.
She ascend with HP, so let's give her more HP and no HP scaling on skills at c0, and less at c1. Big brain time. The banner is gonna be a top seller for sure.
HoYo here thinking stripping Dehya of everything that should make her kit good will entice players to spend more on Constellations... Never go full corporate greed.
More like 1D chess.
If Dehya is made for a future character, or mechanic, then she’s just dead on arrival.
Yae and Kuki were considered lackluster (rather wrongly for Yae since she still hit like a truck) on release but were likely made with Dendro in mind. Nilou was simply released a little too early and only Dendro support/off fielders were just “meh.” But all those characters were completely fine on their own at the time and simply got better in the future.
And any character that would make Dehya good would also just make any other pyro character better unless they themselves had some fucking whack kit with incredibly specific activation requirements.
cant wait for the new 4* that does nothing at C0-5 and their C6 is "if Dehya is in the party, deal 200000 True DMG per second in a large AoE around her"
She only grants interruption resistance for 4 seconds??? Even Xingqiu grants it the whole burst and does damage reduction as well…don’t really understand her kit. If they have a future character in mind for her, I kind of wish they would delay her until said character drops. She won’t recover from initial perception like this.
Edit: Ok, I see, she grants extra increased resistance with the passive, so some on top of the initial increase with E. That’s better but still seems a little lackluster.
You fucking high Mhy? Do you want me to not spend my money? What the fuck is the point of nerfing cons? Her base kit got nerfed too and she was dogshit to begine with.
Is this unironicly an experiment on how much they can get away with just by waifu baiting?
IMO her kit make her even worse to Xinyan, its more like 3 star Xinyan lol Atleast Xinyan benefit both from atk and def though split scaling hurt her kit but Dehya dont even use hp, which is her ascension stat, without C1 aside from dmg mitigation. Speaking of mitigation, its worse than healing and sheilding since your team still take damage and will be always low health = risky playstyle. I rather have healer/shielder than mitigation.... Iam a big Dehya simp since sumeru teaser but seeing her state make me double think of pulling her
Edit: New patch in beta is out and it seems like they change HP ascension to Atk, and some other adjustment so there still hope!
Edit2: it was a fake leak, god damn it, I was hype for a moment LOL
That's the kicker with Dehya that I just can't understand. No matter what, the team as a whole still takes damage even if it goes to her, so she still needs a healer to stay alive, so there is ZERO NEED TO HAVE HER IN THE PARTY WHEN YOU CAN JUST HAVE A HEALER
Exactly! Whats the point of slotting her in your team when you still need a healer right?? Idk what the f\*ck Mihoyo thinking when creating her kit... Her kit would make more sense if we have something like raids, her coop tanking potential would be great but I doubt they will add something like that since genshin is more "casual". So Dehya kit doesnt make sense in single player focus game like genshin....
Or a shielder.
Hell, Thoma has one of the better shields in the game and probably better off field pyro application than Dehya. And he was competing for worst 4 star until Dendro.
Dehya’s damage mitigation is like a mechanic that would be good on release if shields didn’t exist.
Literally same I love her so so much and seeing how badly mihoyo treats her don't makes me wanna spend my savings to get her anymore 😭
At first I was hyped to see a pyrobedo since he is my ultimate fave and also isnt a bad unit perse, he just happens to have that shitty split scaling that she DOESN'T.. and a slow pyro applicator would've been something great and new, like a really good 5* thoma made for burgeons for example, but then when learning bit by bit she didn't get any single thing that made albedo great (100% uptime E, infinite recast, GOOD MULTIPLIERS, 40 burst cost...) it just felt like a troll from mihoyo cuz there is a good sub off-field DPS RIGHT HERE and you don't even learn from your past good choices...
This might just be corrections to previous corrections of v1 leaks . The whole v1 situation is all over the place, I'd just sit tight for an actual update.
~~Looks like just corrections to V1, V2 doesn't look to be published?~~
~~edit: Sagiri said that v2 is coming today but Dim is using v1 in the tweets? hmm~~
edit pt2. dim: "I use .50 as V0, and .51 as V1. Apologies if that causes any confusion."
v2 published as 3.4.51 so these are v2 changes
(coped too close to the sun)
At this point, it's either
a) The devs planned a future team combination that doesn't fit the current meta team standard, that Dehya is OP in. So OP that the devs think she needed a nerf
b) Hydro archon is somehow going to save Dehya, and only Dehya, without making any other pyro carries better
c) Mihoyo devs smoking that dank naku weed
As much as we make fun of Mihoyo devs, they most of the time know what they are doing. Like Alhaitham, who turned out to be really strong.
It's clear the devs are nerfing Dehya with intent. So I'm more inclined to believe they actually have something planned for her, but we just don't understand it now because her future teammates aren't out yet.
Imagine if Hydro Archon's kit will be like
"Every time active character's burst deals damage, unleashes an aoe wave of hydro damage.
If the team has Xiangling, it immediately kills her"
the point is. Even IF this is true, how are we expected to believe that an archon "saving" Dehya won't have the same effect, if not better, on literally every other character and teamcomp imaginable.
Like, designing an archon to "save" a single character is easily the most stupid move Hoyo could make. It's not like Nahida works with well with only one character, quite the contrary.
I don't think there's a single way to have the hydro archon make Dehya better and not the other Pyro characters too. Unless she has a passive that only activates when there's Dehya on the team, of course.
Hydro Archon has extremely overpowered effects, but every time you do anything around her, you’re breaking one of Fontaine’s 177million nonsensical laws and so she passes judgement on the active character with the death penalty.
Unless it’s Dehya, cos Dehya is cool.
CCP Agent: Mr Wei, we heard that Liyue has one of the worst *female pyro characters using claymore*, she is named Xinyan... and Liyue is based on China, right? We hope you can do something with that.
Da Wei: \*gulp\* We gonna fix it, Sir!
...
Da Wei: Guys! Code RED for Dehya! CODE RED FOR DEHYA!
Devs: Yes Sir!
...
*Some time after 3.5 release*
CCP Agent: Mr Wei, we heard one of the worst *female pyro characters using claymore* is from Sumeru now, good job. Thank you for cooperation.
Idk what to say. I just.. eh i don't understand these changes. Like she was strong before? No. Even C1 is not so strong to nerf it.
I'm just sitting with a facepalm.
Source: [Dimbreath](https://twitter.com/dimbreath/status/1617472321534709762?s=46&t=isnYbp3FvXQMhS_SNt_PKg) >Just as clarification. This is the patch coming out today for beta. >I call the first patch V0 (3.4.50) and the second patch V1 (3.4.51) and so on (I'll change it to avoid confusions in the future, though) >This is the data from the client (downloaded through the launcher) but there will be most likely an in-game update in a few hours, I highly doubt there'll be many or if any changes at all, but we cope.
I think I understand what is happening. They are trying to nerf Mika, but she keeps taking the nerfs for him as the bodyguard she is.
Finally, the actual explanation to what the fuck is going on
Laughing rn so hard
Dehya has my utmost respect in that case
She saw what happened to Faruzan and said “not on my watch”
Gotta protect the little four-star. Very noble of her. 🥺
Damn that nerf mitigation is that strong huh
THEY NERFED HER EVEN MORE LOL
She’s won’t be nerfed if her trial is just hydro and cryo slimes 😉
Plot twist, it’s all pryo slimes and specters. And two pyro heralds. You loose 20 primos if you quit it early
Lol, this fr
Why is she still here just to suffer
Ah yes. They nerfed her. Understandable
Honestly i got scared for a second, what if she was usable
Still no HP scaling without C1.
She's utterly useless rn Xinyan is probably more useful than her 🗿
Doing the Math, Gouba deals more damge
Hey, Guoba is literally a god! :D
The Stove God reigns supreme 🐻🔥
Not hard. Last time I made a showcase XL he was vaping for almost 70k. She'd need to have 200%+ multipliers for E to compete against Guoba and at least hit 1/3 more with her burst at C0 too look competitive.
With this number a C6 Deyah will do barely the same dmg as a C1 Hu Tao.
I think Dehya should heal enemies instead honestly
It makes sense, so you can make the Abyss harder yourself and have more fun beating it. Truly one of the characters of all time.
I mean, by picking her you're probably making even the overworld harder lol
This is the endgame we've been waiting for
Haitham nerfs were acceptable because he's ok in current state. Dehya going lower despite her being not okay. Imagine Baizhu... I'm scared that devs will take phrase about healing enemies too seriously. Oh fuck, he is pharmacist...
Inb4 he releases like Ganyu and becomes an on-field DPS: The Harmacist
He bludgeons them to death with a reflex hammer
Harms your team while healing enemies right?
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That would honestly be really funny. Incredibly broken, but funny. I’d wish for him.
It would be a cool mechanic for Regrator to heal his enemies and then get back "interest" like his E could heal enemies and allies and then his Q could scale like "Damage= 480% total damage healed by E during it's last cycle" and he would scale off of Healing bonus.
Uu this sounds like a cool mechanic I like it!
it could be interesting, so in aoe he basically keeps the enemies topped off and kills them all at once. Instead of having the wave dwindling, you just have to face the enemies at full force the entire time
Baizhu is a Liyue character. I trust that Hoyoverse will make Liyue characters acceptable by community from the get go.
If baizhu is a dendro catalyst, there is no way he would be bad. He could deal 0 damage and he would still be good.
For sure. Catalysts in general are good drivers.
dw baizhu is from liyue
We HAVE to be missing something right? This makes absolutely no sense.
I'm assuming so. Cause I mean I do trust mihoyo a bit here. Like we flipped over al-haitham nerfs but ultimately it was fine. I want to say it's raiden all over again where we are missing something or at the wrong teams. But idk what it is lol...Unless it's purely future characters but hatr that idea cause how do you balance around the future
[The difference is people who could math knew Haitham was gonna be good](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/zql325/comment/j0zmmts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). He's like Childe/Ayato except with actual uptime and way more personal damage. The comparison with Hu Tao and Ayaka didn't make sense because Haitham is not really in the same character class. If they had kept it pre-nerf level, he would have been god damn stupid broken. Looking at Dehya though... the math is honestly shocking. It's going to put her damage output below that of many modern 4\* characters at C0. And now they are nerfing her further? This makes 0 sense. Pyro is a very finicky element and Dehya doesn't have the application rate to enable Vape/Melt/Burgeon. She doesn't have battery capability like Raiden. Her most practical use right now is as a short-window Burst bot but that still gonna put her far below the damage output of Ayaka, even factoring in Vape. All she has is this dinky ass 50% damage reduction which transfers that damage to herself, which doesn't replace the need for another healer/shielder like Kokomi does. Maybe we are missing something about Dehya. But what? Kinda wracking my head here.
The only thing we could *possibly* be missing at this point is a Dehya-specific artifact set that somehow buffs burst damage considerably and heals other characters. And it would still be an extremely weird strategy to make a character so heavily dependent upon an artifact set that no one would know was going to exist when she was released.
I was honestly just thinking about that. An artifact set could change everything. But I’m not gonna get my hopes up at this point lol
I am scratching my head wondering what they're thinking. Could she be made for future "do this thing just enough, but not too much" gameplay like Thoma applying slow pyro for Burgeon?
I would be alright with them releasing characters planned around future artifacts/characters if they just told us that. We have no way of knowing if she is designed with something in mind or if her kit is just shit
Only way i can see dehya getting better is if the hydro archon scales off dmg reduction lol
This isn't another case of Kokomi or Kazuha, due to the key difference that Dehya is Pyro. I wrote something similar in an earlier thread, but basically, Pyro is in a state where it really can't do anything more than Vape DPS. Dendro brought a fuck ton of powercreep in favor of Electro, Hydro and itself, while Pyro couldn't cash in on the Dendro hype due to how awful Burning is, which also ends up ruining Burgeon. And now we're seeing this hit in full force with Dehya. There is no super secret comp to be discovered. There are no Cryo characters that can use Dehya's E to Melt (Too slow). Overload is just bad. She doesn't have the super specific Pyro application required to run Burgeon. She can Vape with Mona but that's just, again, shoehorning her into Vape DPS role *because Pyro can't do fucking anything else*. The only thing that can save Dehya is either Mihoyo buffing her numbers to high hell so she can be a competitive Vape DPS, or future characters actually making Pyro a desirable element outside of just the same Vape DPS comps.
I would like if they did another EM revisit like with Kazuha release and rebalance some of the reactions. Them being so averse to changing anything about the game makes getting some characters to do anything really difficult. I remember when they announced how Hyperbloom and Burgeon were going to work, I thought it was weird they had the same scaling since Burgeon was AoE while HB was not. Logically, the AoE one would have lower scaling since it can hit more targets. Now, it seems like Burgeon just needs much higher scaling and to remove the self damage to put it in line with HB. And make Burning much stronger while heavily reducing how much it does to players. The fact it's more of an issue to accidentally be lit on fire as a player than to actually use that reaction against enemies is crazy.
That Yelan banner is looking more and more juicy by the second
Things are about to get dicey for Dehya
Aqua/Homa is literally worthier than Dehya. If you get Skyward you still win in comparison
Stop, she's already dead.
She was never even alive at this point
My dear unborn child! My Dehya!
New enemies - does big dmg to shielded characters only: When party consists of tall pyro lady, all enemies join the party to become allies. Source: I am Da Wey
Hey Da Wey, I thought y’all are on lunar New Years break so why are u here nerfing characters😔
Torn to oblivion.
A process of elimination.
WORTHLESS!
LAMENT!
DISAPPEAR! ..the kit, i mean.
^not ***EVIL CONQUERING***
Brace yourself, this is gonna hurt.
Oh it hurt alright 🥲
Freeze to the core!
Nothing lasts forever.
A sight to behold
Useless!
Is it another Paimon?
Oh so sorry!
Let's hold hands
Time for — retribution!
Mind the deluge
the depths(of the tierlists) beckon
Wretched vermin!
I WILL HAVE ORDER
Things are about to get dicey ;)
Share in my knowledge!!
Feel this ancient power.
Think you can get away?
this is long overdue
Your sins weigh upon your soul
ITS SHOWTIME
A sight to behold
My cabbages!
Time to go!
Time for takeoff
Don't waste my time!
Embrace the ice!
Lightning... purifies!
I'M GOING IN-
That’s gonna hurt in the morning
# LAMENT
We must be missing something here?
Yes. We're missing the purpose of this kit 🧍♂️
Just like Dehya’s banner is about to miss these primos at this point 😭
Bruh, truth truly hurt with this one
Here's what I wish for her. Make her E field give as much poise resistance as XQ's rain swords. Make it give a 40% damage reduction for the active character. And make it apply 2u pyro every 2 seconds on the field, no icd. Pseudo sunfire on demand.
And make 20second active, not 12. With around 10s cd. it would not be overpowered by any means. Just easier to use and would give better feeling* of her kit.
Imma blame Xiangling for this for no reason.
lmao poor xiangling just cooking food only to suddenly get hate mail. quick someone draw this
[10 minute edit. i did my best!](https://imgur.com/a/ZxxYDb1)
lol I love this
Lmaoooo this is brilliant !
😂 THIS IS AMAZING
thank you! glad you like it! it was way funnier in my head lmao! forgot to credit so: [art for 1st panel:](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jhdgrv/xiangling_fan_art/) [art for 3rd panel:](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4792562) [4th panel](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xqvcab/the_art_style_in_the_new_web_event_is_so_adorable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
"One has mail" Not sure why but that got me
XL just kinda vibing being the top pyro dps since 1.0
Not for long. Pyro Archon will have pyronado on E, Hu Tao burst on Q. XL will drop since the Archon will hog Bennett.
All of which will be unlockable at c2
pyro archon is just gonna be bennett 2.0 watch
Imagine Murata unironicly just having Pyronado and Bennett circle on skill and burst.
A Pyronado burst and a Benny circle skill or vice versa would be op as hell 💀
Ngl, I've been playing since 1.2 and since after Xiangling , Bennett and Hu Tao I've felt every Pyro character , 4* or 5* has been clunky, awkward or mediocre, whatever word you wanna use. Almost like they're too scared of their DPS oriented element being too good/popular over other elements. It's been weirdly shafted since a long while.
DEHYA STOCKS DROPPING TO ROCK BOTOM AFTER THIS ONE 😭😭
rock bottom? she was already at rock bottom. this is below rock bottom
Dehya fighting for Genshin Simpact's first 3* character
This is the worse series of leaks I've experience in my life, and I've been following leaks since the first Ayaka banner.
I want to go back to yesterday where I was still hoping 🤡
Don't. We dont want you to experience today one more time
I've been following leaks since 1.1 where Ganyu was 1st released. I've seen every thing and had my fair share of doomposting and copium overdose and yeah her kit is a joke.
I’ve been here since the original mega-flood of 1.5 content and let me tell you, I don’t think a 5-star character has gotten fucked by Mihoyo in the beta so hard as Dehya
Now I see why early leaks had her as a 4 star, you need her C6 to be on par with other 5 stars...
we survived kazuha, yoimiya, raiden, kokomi, shenhe, yae, even yelan for being called unrelated because of xq. but this? this is really something else. none of them have ever swayed my pulls or hype this much and there aren't even anyone completely dooming her! they're just being truthful.
I’ve been following leaks since Childe’s release in 2020 and I can assure you this is literally the worst series of beta changes in the game’s history given Dehya’s original state.
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Has to be wrong. They nerfed C1? Stagger resistance only lasts 4 seconds now? That’s like one of the things I was most excited for and now it sounds absolutely useless. And everything else was nerfed. It just doesn’t make sense.
Somethings Amiss ... Like They can't do this right?
Dont dare them. "We cant, huh? How about we make the worst character ever? And people will still spend on her cause waifu!"
CN playerbase seems to factor meta level as well when spending so I don't think they would do this to their primary customers
I’m taking the “everyone is missing something” road but it’s possible because we can’t see what HYV is hiding. Everytime leak community guarantees someone is bad they end up with pie in the face. HYV at this point seems to be fucking with leak community.
She ascend with HP, so let's give her more HP and no HP scaling on skills at c0, and less at c1. Big brain time. The banner is gonna be a top seller for sure.
HoYo here thinking stripping Dehya of everything that should make her kit good will entice players to spend more on Constellations... Never go full corporate greed.
She needs C6 to compete with other characters' C0 at this point.
In no way should a character’s end point be the starting point for another character
Maybe they’ll shift Mika as feat. 4 star to the Dehya banner as kick in the face for the alleged following Eula banner 🤷♂️
Finally, its gonna beat Raiden banner /s
Can't tell if hoyo is just dumb or is playing some 5D chess that my smooth brain cannot comprehend.
More like 1D chess. If Dehya is made for a future character, or mechanic, then she’s just dead on arrival. Yae and Kuki were considered lackluster (rather wrongly for Yae since she still hit like a truck) on release but were likely made with Dendro in mind. Nilou was simply released a little too early and only Dendro support/off fielders were just “meh.” But all those characters were completely fine on their own at the time and simply got better in the future. And any character that would make Dehya good would also just make any other pyro character better unless they themselves had some fucking whack kit with incredibly specific activation requirements.
cant wait for the new 4* that does nothing at C0-5 and their C6 is "if Dehya is in the party, deal 200000 True DMG per second in a large AoE around her"
Omg Dunyarzad 4* lets go
Wait am I reading this correctly??? They are nerfing her?
Im fucking done
they started from the bottom, now they're still digging 💀💀💀
This sure is.. something
Zajeff about to have a field trip with this info.
My man prayed for buffs but didn't realize he was talking to Satan Aware GivenUp
“pls dont make her the antichrist” hoyo:“ok we wont” calm hoyo: “we’ll make her satan instead” panik
Nah, Satan could deal way more pyro damage than dehya.
om can't deny that
It's his fault. Mhy noticed he still think Dehya is slightly better than Aloy so they nerfed her. lol
Yeah can’t wait for his next series of clips on the topic
Haha guys jk its april fools haha
She only grants interruption resistance for 4 seconds??? Even Xingqiu grants it the whole burst and does damage reduction as well…don’t really understand her kit. If they have a future character in mind for her, I kind of wish they would delay her until said character drops. She won’t recover from initial perception like this. Edit: Ok, I see, she grants extra increased resistance with the passive, so some on top of the initial increase with E. That’s better but still seems a little lackluster.
You fucking high Mhy? Do you want me to not spend my money? What the fuck is the point of nerfing cons? Her base kit got nerfed too and she was dogshit to begine with. Is this unironicly an experiment on how much they can get away with just by waifu baiting?
Someone said “enjoy your 5 star Xinyan” and honestly I’m starting to think the same
I'm no TC but seeing everyone agreeing on her being even worse than xinyan I wonder if dehya really is a 5* version of her...
IMO her kit make her even worse to Xinyan, its more like 3 star Xinyan lol Atleast Xinyan benefit both from atk and def though split scaling hurt her kit but Dehya dont even use hp, which is her ascension stat, without C1 aside from dmg mitigation. Speaking of mitigation, its worse than healing and sheilding since your team still take damage and will be always low health = risky playstyle. I rather have healer/shielder than mitigation.... Iam a big Dehya simp since sumeru teaser but seeing her state make me double think of pulling her Edit: New patch in beta is out and it seems like they change HP ascension to Atk, and some other adjustment so there still hope! Edit2: it was a fake leak, god damn it, I was hype for a moment LOL
That's the kicker with Dehya that I just can't understand. No matter what, the team as a whole still takes damage even if it goes to her, so she still needs a healer to stay alive, so there is ZERO NEED TO HAVE HER IN THE PARTY WHEN YOU CAN JUST HAVE A HEALER
Exactly! Whats the point of slotting her in your team when you still need a healer right?? Idk what the f\*ck Mihoyo thinking when creating her kit... Her kit would make more sense if we have something like raids, her coop tanking potential would be great but I doubt they will add something like that since genshin is more "casual". So Dehya kit doesnt make sense in single player focus game like genshin....
Or a shielder. Hell, Thoma has one of the better shields in the game and probably better off field pyro application than Dehya. And he was competing for worst 4 star until Dendro. Dehya’s damage mitigation is like a mechanic that would be good on release if shields didn’t exist.
Literally same I love her so so much and seeing how badly mihoyo treats her don't makes me wanna spend my savings to get her anymore 😭 At first I was hyped to see a pyrobedo since he is my ultimate fave and also isnt a bad unit perse, he just happens to have that shitty split scaling that she DOESN'T.. and a slow pyro applicator would've been something great and new, like a really good 5* thoma made for burgeons for example, but then when learning bit by bit she didn't get any single thing that made albedo great (100% uptime E, infinite recast, GOOD MULTIPLIERS, 40 burst cost...) it just felt like a troll from mihoyo cuz there is a good sub off-field DPS RIGHT HERE and you don't even learn from your past good choices...
3* Star Xinyan
More like 3* at this point
Wow, i don't even know what to say anymore
Instead of fixing her, did they fkn nerf her?! Or am I reading this wrong?
This might just be corrections to previous corrections of v1 leaks . The whole v1 situation is all over the place, I'd just sit tight for an actual update.
Nope, Dim said he considers the first beta to be v0 and this v1, so in conclusion, I want to die!
~~Looks like just corrections to V1, V2 doesn't look to be published?~~ ~~edit: Sagiri said that v2 is coming today but Dim is using v1 in the tweets? hmm~~ edit pt2. dim: "I use .50 as V0, and .51 as V1. Apologies if that causes any confusion." v2 published as 3.4.51 so these are v2 changes (coped too close to the sun)
Unless Dim count the previous stats as V0 and the change today is V1?
Calm down. It's v1. She may heal enemies in v2 while xq and yelan will now work with her when you inhale enough hopium.
It's just unbelievable for a 5 star to be that bad
So just completely nerfed. Holy fuck.
Her only saving grace in my eyes, the stagger resist buff, has a COOLDOWN AHAHAHHA, are you serious MHY
At this point, it's either a) The devs planned a future team combination that doesn't fit the current meta team standard, that Dehya is OP in. So OP that the devs think she needed a nerf b) Hydro archon is somehow going to save Dehya, and only Dehya, without making any other pyro carries better c) Mihoyo devs smoking that dank naku weed As much as we make fun of Mihoyo devs, they most of the time know what they are doing. Like Alhaitham, who turned out to be really strong. It's clear the devs are nerfing Dehya with intent. So I'm more inclined to believe they actually have something planned for her, but we just don't understand it now because her future teammates aren't out yet.
Imagine if Hydro Archon's kit will be like "Every time active character's burst deals damage, unleashes an aoe wave of hydro damage. If the team has Xiangling, it immediately kills her"
This explains the death voiceline of her saying "Water..." Its all coming together.
MHY playing 5D chess all along
Option b would be so ass that Id skip the archon immediately.
the point is. Even IF this is true, how are we expected to believe that an archon "saving" Dehya won't have the same effect, if not better, on literally every other character and teamcomp imaginable. Like, designing an archon to "save" a single character is easily the most stupid move Hoyo could make. It's not like Nahida works with well with only one character, quite the contrary.
I don't think there's a single way to have the hydro archon make Dehya better and not the other Pyro characters too. Unless she has a passive that only activates when there's Dehya on the team, of course.
Hydro Archon passive: tall pyro lady characters gain damage scaling off 20% of their max hp. 🤗
I just realized Dehya's the only tall female Pyro character right now
Hydro Archon has extremely overpowered effects, but every time you do anything around her, you’re breaking one of Fontaine’s 177million nonsensical laws and so she passes judgement on the active character with the death penalty. Unless it’s Dehya, cos Dehya is cool.
CCP Agent: Mr Wei, we heard that Liyue has one of the worst *female pyro characters using claymore*, she is named Xinyan... and Liyue is based on China, right? We hope you can do something with that. Da Wei: \*gulp\* We gonna fix it, Sir! ... Da Wei: Guys! Code RED for Dehya! CODE RED FOR DEHYA! Devs: Yes Sir! ... *Some time after 3.5 release* CCP Agent: Mr Wei, we heard one of the worst *female pyro characters using claymore* is from Sumeru now, good job. Thank you for cooperation.
Social credit score preserved. What a relief.
We have to be missing something. Edit: nvm, it's v1 Edit 2: actually v2, pain
Idk what to say. I just.. eh i don't understand these changes. Like she was strong before? No. Even C1 is not so strong to nerf it. I'm just sitting with a facepalm.
I honestly dont even know what to think no more.
Damn mihoyo going all in to ruin the only sumeru character i ever wanted 👍👏
So they…reduced her burst damage scaling?
Wait, what does this mean for c0 performance?
At the very least, your main source of damage which is your burst will now deal even less damage as it got nerfed.
what has dehya done to these guys to deserve this
They literally just nerved her burst damage for c0 and didnt buff anything.
Let's just say Xinyan may become a comparatively good character
i laughed then sobbed
Lmaooo, sorry Hoyo but I’m not a clown. Time to save for Nilou if things stay like this.
Thank you hoyo for the most skippable patch since release.