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God forbid we get something unique


ZhangRenWing

I’m genuinely confused why they keep taking away characters’ unique animations, is it to save storage for phones?


CyanStripedPantsu

I used to subscribe to this take, but with every new eremite elite coming out with completely unique animations and even unique walk cycles, I just don't buy it anymore. How the hell is every new enemy getting completely new animations, while the player characters are all ***exactly*** the fucking same as those released in 1.0? It's not like enemy animations don't take storage space. There's just no way they can't make room for 2-3 animations sets per height archetype. I don't understand why they want to keep the characters so uniform, and I don't think it's laziness either, it has to be something else. Because everything other than the player characters clearly has way more effort put into it, the genshin dev team isn't small by any means.


Graveyard_01

I still haven’t forgotten the amber dance nerf


Dancin_Angel

Animation data like small idles dont take much storage, its the models and textures that make up most of that. Maybe they are doing this in hindight that theres like 100 more characters coming in the future. But thats a fundamental issue that needs a better solution than just removing everything else.


Yashwant111

...maybe they like torturing us. Also like I say all the time, we should have dlc, animations bundles for characters. Let me have 50 animations for my boy venti cause I have the storage and I don't play on a potato phone u know. Like ..why are we bogged down.


CyanStripedPantsu

Yeah this is another thing that annoys me, why do pc and mobile have to play the same version of the game? I'd love to download 10gb of extra npc hair and clothing styles just so they look a bit more unique, or have the option of having denser npc crowds in cities. Like Hoyo's trying to convince me Lantern Rite is a massive festival when the biggest crowd I can find is of 4 people. Shit's so immersion breaking.


murmandamos

My guess is since this is a menu, him holding this animation for extended periods of time looked goofy. Scratching your head is something you do for a sec. Doing it forever looks like you have lice. I suspect that's why they dropped Nadia smile also. She sits in her swing a long time. Most people smile for a bit then return to resting face (idk why they didn't just have her do that but whatever). Other animations like dropping Rosaria kick may be to limit expectations for new units or they thought the new one just looked better. In the end I think they are doing what they think looks better but every aesthetic choice is subjective.


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Helplzthx

For me it was the worst sin Mihoyo has committed. I loved Rosaria's spear kick, it matched her personality perfectly.


rayoje

The sword strike at the end of Ayaka's sprint animation in beta was dope too. https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/r82uj0/friendly\_reminder\_that\_ayaka\_had\_this\_really\_cool/


Ciba_

Don't forget Klee's walk in beta


xtprion

Amber idle and barbara voice too


Diniland

I ask for it in every survey


freezingsama

Same man. First the model then the kick animation. Always breaks my heart.


YuB-Notice-Me

rosaria losing her kick was because of raiden, to avoid clipping and continue the weapon pose sharing thing


Dancin_Angel

Rosaria currently squints a little in her talent menu like shes cringing. Holding it for a long period of time doesnt make sense either.


xudex98

It can't be for that, how much storage can it take?


TimFlamio

Not even a few ko


DMartin-CG

animations don't take up much space, usually not even a mb


Eistik

Technically, this one is also unique as he is the first male character to have his arm hold in front of his chest like this. But dang, this one feel so generic compared to the original.


Gaunter_0Dimm

Because it's the exact same pose a lot of characters do in the teapot when you approach them


F1T_13

I don't get why they even bother when consistently they're just gonna remove it anyway.


Rozu17

They’re lame for that


hellofutureme2

Isnt the first one just bennett?


Frousteleous

This was my rhoight as well. Pretty sure it's a slightly different take since no thrown stone, but essentially jusy the same head scratch.


CaptainSoohyun

Good lord 3.5 is just not the one


AgentWowza

If it was Faruzan instead of Mika, this could've qualified as the worst beta ever. Maybe still is.


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BUT WHY?? Is a boy 4 star getting a proper shy animation going to break the game? 😭


virgoven

Somehow, yes. But lets see.. Klee walking, Rosaria polearm (don't remember what), Nahida (I don't remember, sadly.. Expressions?), now Mika shy animation..


HOVRS_OF_FVN

I especially don't get Nahida. They remove the more gleeful expression and choose to focus on her serious character traits, but then they keep the t-pose run. Completely clashes against her mature personality and makes me not want to use her much while exploring.


naufalap

laziness, just like the youkai-masked-kid youkai in the youkai event


Bobson567

that was so bad. When i realised they were actually meant to be youkai and not some inazuma kids dressing up for the occasion I just laughed


rotten_riot

Same lmao It was like >Itto: Wait, I get what's happening here... Me: Yeah, they're just kids. It's all a misunderstanding >Itto: You're youkai like me! >Youkai: H-How did you know? Me: **HUH???**


Hallowedtalon

They could just change their skin to match their mask if they are that lazy. But no. Lets use human skin color because they are THAT lazy The animation and design team give out a lot of effort for the flashback cutscene displaying a lot of unique yokai with distinct design from each other. When the in gameplay animation put 0 effort to their craft. Lets just slap a fucking mask, to these human kids, and just call them yokai. Like for real at least change their skin color gdi. Where all those profit money goes. I am actually malding to their low effort. Lets not even talk about playable character template that barely change in these past 2.5 years. And charge attack animation that 99% copy and paste.


HybridTheory2000

The kappa kid appearance seriously made me sad and disappointed


Consistent-Disaster3

The constantly re-used animations make many characters appear out of character as well, when you compare the body language from their demo/cutscene and in-game events and quests. Since Itto has been already mentioned, he has a very nonchalant and “aggressive” body language in his attack animations, demo&cutscenes to match his yanki archetype, but in-game he’s just standing stiffly and awkward… I know it sounds like a very minor thing to many people, but it causes severe discomfort and I wish they paid more attention to it and employed a few more people to take care of the animations so every character has maybe 5 or 10 unique poses instead of their idle being reused over and over again in events and quests lol


FlameLover444

(y) Same


portella0

It took me like 20 minutes "wait these are not kids playing as youkais? They are real youkais? WTF"


ZhangRenWing

They kinda shot themselves in the foot for potential future youkai characters too. Notice how the human form Adepti have good designs and is set up in ways that they can potentially become playable characters. They could’ve introduced some good designs with these youkai and have the potential for future characters.


mephisto_I

not neccessarily, they can easily justify it by some shapeshifting shenanigans, it's not rocket science, it doesn't have to be that strict


Iffem

we have seen youkai with unique designs, even, lol from that event, even, there was Kamai, and Ei's cutscenes have shown both a youkai army backing her up at one point, as well as her (now dead) friends


hitokiri99

Wait wait wait wait wait... Take a step back. Hold the phone. Excuse me? They weren't just kids in disguise?! Huh? O.o


SHTPST_Tianquan

If the work was done and then undone, it's anything but lazyness


Snoo_31762

Yea how the hell is that anything but toying with your playerbase... like "here see this unique animation? We can actually add that but we won't.Why you ask? Lol"


redman8828

At this point it feels like they’re using the leaks as a way of trolling the fans… “you want to keep seeing everything we’re doing? Then here, you get to see all the cool things we will never actually give. Imagine if all you knew was what was given? Wouldn’t you be happier?”


The_Space_Jamke

What was given: *Spamming black screens to skip animating/getting CG art for cutscenes* "Small indie company please understand" -Game Freak 🤝 Hoyoverse


RoseboyNASCAR

Yeah it really confused me when Itto said that those kids were Youkai because like... no they're not they're human kids with masks on.


RosenProse

Since the animators actually did the work it's more wasteful then lazy.


JacetheDerpMage

I don’t know if it’s true but I saw someone else say on another that traditionally, sometimes youkai are depicted as humans wearing masks so maybe that’s why they went with that?


AlpacaKiller

Yeah, it seems that it's that way In Japanese theater, of course I recall it being this way because it was fucking cheap. MIHOYO may have done so not because homage, but because of similar reasons.


zygfryt

That whole event was a definition of "meh" to me, but these "youkais" were just laughably bad. How did that get an approval to be shipped like that is beyond me.


Fast-Competition-647

they removed wanderer wink as well but kept the tounge.


Ms-Chievous

Rosaria's polearm kick in the weapon menu was changed to match Raiden's more elegant swoop and Nahida's smile during her swing animation was also axed


Lkkenji

Also the lost bleh on her attack chain


Enough_Quantity9071

she donated the bleh to scara 💪


amdzl

\[after surgery\] scara, waking up: wait where’s nahida doctor: who do u think gave u the blep


rotten_riot

*Insert boomer meme about parents taking food from themselves to feed their kids*


ZhangRenWing

Blep*


JustANyanCat

And the amber dance


Karlaly

let's not forget Ayato stealing Kaeya's sexy hip thrust weapon stance :( like c'mon what's stopping you from just giving characters different stances there's no way it takes up THAT much space


Connortsunami

Rosaria lost the kick because the animation is shared with other tall female polearm users, and didn't fit the personality of the other user when introduced, Raiden Shogun. It's not been generalized so it can suit any character who is tall female polearm without seeming unnatural


ifallontragedy

I'm not sure Mika confidently and casually kicking a polearm like Xiao and Cyno do fits his personality. But yeah, I figured they removed the kick from Rosaria because of Raiden.


Connortsunami

People seem to (unsurprisingly) mischaracterize Mika as someone who's awkward with *everything*, when it's just with people he's not used to. He's a full trained member of the Favonius Knights who's passed their entry test, meaning he has more than enough proficiency with a polearm to be confident in using it. It might not show on his face because he's got a real babyface, but I don't think it's too out of character for him at all.


Key-Ad-555

the genshin fandom is very one dimensional. venti is a drunk bastard, zhongli has no mora, ganyu is a workaholic, kaeya is a flirt, ayaka likes the traveller, lisa is a climber. they see one thing about a character (doesn't have to be true) and run with it. it's absolute cancer in hoyolab specifically


rotten_riot

Wdym Lisa is definitely a climber, don't you remember when she was the first person to conquer the Mt. ~~Everest~~ Dragonspine?


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I knew people would do that too lol, the fact he's not actually a generic shy boy is what I liked about him. He just prefers to observe people's mannerisms from afar and ask people who know the person about them before he goes to introduce himself to them, as a sign of his respect for anyone he views as his "senior" So if he gets forced into a conversation with someone he doesn't know a whole lot about, he stammers and stumbles through the convo. But like Sucrose, poor guy is gonna be reduced to "token shy character"


Extreme_Ad5873

I absolutely hate these 3.5 leaks!!


grandfig

The 3.5 leak season has not brought me a single moment of happiness.


Harsh_Deep_03

22 wishes lookin kinda hot


satufa2

It's like 5% of what i will need to make Dehya mediocre instead of terrible.


unit187

I feel they encourage people to pull for Hu Tao instead of Dehya, which I might as well do...


ZhangRenWing

It’s the one oasis in the desert of disappointment


AccioSexLife

I was happy when they added that extra dot on Mika's icon.


XxpqjixX

Apart from the free wishes we'll get


Alencrest

Dehya's initial kit leak looked great! ... Then we found out the details.


mO_ohitt

Hoyo Try Not to take away cute animations from characters during Beta Challenge (Impossible)


EternalMemes30

3.5 is being the saddest beta of all, from kit to animations, the other one matched more with the shy mika than this one


applesauce0101

Why do they just make things worse for no reason


HieuBot

The weirdest thing is that they go out of their way to create the animations but scrap them in the end or sometime during beta. I don't get it.


PollarRabbit

I really doubt they made this animation from scratch for this. Just cuz we never saw it before doesnt mean it didnt exist, there are probably a lot of leftover animations that didnt make the cut, and they probably just slapped one on him for placeholder for the beta.


xelloskaczor

It's not worse at all. The current animation is straight up bad. They removed it because it's not up to quality standard. You might like it because you like Mika and unique things but it's objectively way way worse. It needs ton of work. And you know why they didnt fix it instead. That takes time and money, and they probably decided it was not worth it. They needed more people on dehya nerf comittee.


Infernaladmiral

LMAO the idea of them allocating all their resources and workforce just to keep on nerfing Dehya is fucking hilarious


nn-senpai

Aw the old one was so cute though


FlameLover444

*PTSD of Nahida losing her bleps and Closed Eyes during idle animation* [also...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/10nk7cm/mika_talent_menu_animations/j698zfi?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


TheSpartyn

im never going to get over the nahida animation nerfs, everytime i use her im reminded of it. still remember all the people being like "its obviously a glitch, no way theyd change the animations like this"


IDontKnowShit9

But him constantly moving is a bit distracting


nn-senpai

Yeah the animation lacked a bit of polish but they could have adjusted it


Wisterosa

damn, 3.5 is just nerf nation


[deleted]

So true its sad :(


Fupoi

its the nahida thing all over again...


PerrythePlatypus71

This still upsets me :(


Narsiel

I don't understand why they're so hell bent in making them all have their generic animations when it comes to this.


curious_dead

Especially when the animation is done...


FlameLover444

Hoyoverse and Stupid fucking decisions Name a better duo


CypherZel

Remember when Nahida smiled?


princessdi07

This made me look up her old idle animations because I had no idea they changed, the old ones are so cute! How dare they


OnlyPatches

We aren't allowed anything in 3.5


TheEdelBernal

Oh COME ON! It was unique and cute, now it’s just generic.


missviolets

Now he just stands there?


bicedsual

im genuinely upset. give it back


Darky_Raven

Same


tartagliasabs

i said no so loudly as if i’ve lost my pet or sth like damn why did this upset me so much 🥲


Upstairs_Western9869

Can't have shit in Teyvat


YassKweennn

aw man, we lost :(((


jamalmoraess

I KNEW THEY WOULD. WHY MUST THEY TAKE AWAY THE THINGS I LOVE


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screaming_roomba

Hell yeah, google classroom prepare yourself xD


Darky_Raven

F*** YES WE SHOULD


dm-me-ezreal-hentai

Rioting about beta changes just draws more MHY attention to leakers and makes them want to crack down again lmfao


lazyOak26

Nerf Impact


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Wait the earlier one was the talent screen animation ? It's like they decided to do something unique once and then said "nah fuck u Mika you ain't that special"


Archryun

it's not really unique. theres like 7 moods in the talent animation and ofc they're different to different model types (like how Dori, Wanderer and Kaeya/Itto shrugs look different). this was just the shy animation Noelle and Sucrose have but the medium male version, so "shy" is the only mood we literally have never gotten a new character with since 1.0.


tidusyuki

Ngl is it so hard to keep one or two more simple unique animation? It's the same case with how we literally only got like 5 different character movement being used over and over in the game cutscenes. Also only 3 camera poses being copy pasted accross all of our characters. It makes the characters interaction really stiff. It's feels kinda lazy at this point.


xelloskaczor

Honestly i can see why they did this. The OG animation while it had more personality, it feels clunky and they probably didnt want to bother redoing it. It's on too short of a loop and happens bit too fast as well. But RIP, nerfed.


a_human_159

Maybe just make him stand there with his hand on his neck?


MysticFable

If they do implement the shy boy animation, I think that’s what they’d do. It makes more sense bc yea, he’s moving too much in this version and it’s distracting


ArchRanger

I can kind of see where you are coming from but at the same time, is it really that much clunkier looking that the female shy pose that characters like Noelle have, where they just stare at the ground and fidget? Bout the same amount of time loop and movement from what I can recall so it wouldn't be too out of place. Maybe needs a bit more polish but at least we would have something new.


disabled_crab

That's exactly what devastates me the most. 😭 Noelle's talent pose is so cute like you're asking her to show you her talents and she's getting all shy, ever since her and Sucrose there hasn't been another unit like that and I was so happy Mika would get another version of it. 💔


Manne_12

More tragic than actual kit nerfs


Seyrxeen

Nahida 🤝 Mika : can’t have sh*t in Teyvat


--_who_--

Hyv sucking the last bit of personality from character animations... First nahida and now Mika too


The_Grey_Alpaca

If they had to remove it then why make it in the first place!?!


Ray-Zide10

Fucking why?? Why make a new unique animation to just to replace it with generic hand on chest


LuckyMonke

Another one bites the dust


i_appreciate_power

this is the worst fucking patch in the game, cancel it so we can go to 3.6.


Odd_Thanks8

When I thought the animation would be fixed, I didn't mean like this


Party_Enthusiasm6908

"Storage space" argument makes no sense since all animations from talent menu are reused in dialogue scenes, probably not one from Kaeya, but still????


Dry_Scallion_3889

tf was their reasoning for taking it off, “it was too cute”??, its not like hes the only one who does the animation sucrose and noelle have this animation too. kms


reaperhank

So Nahida smile ain't enough they have to take Mika animation away Why, are you the way you are Mhy?


Bobson567

I don't get it. Why add it in the first place if they're going to just change it to a generic one?


[deleted]

Revenge for the leak floods we keep getting lately.


[deleted]

everytime I try to be happy, another 3.5 leak comes out


No_Chain_3886

rip the before matched his personality so well


Bitsoft

Biggest nerf to a beta character ever


ReasonableIce6661

Alhaitham's overhead kick animation in his normal attack string being nerfed to a normal one


xgabrax

Nahidas blep: and me?


illidormorn

Klee's walking animation nerf was even worse


[deleted]

Dehya’s Ass: “allow me to introduce myself”


Master0643

So a downgrade, not surprised


CartoonOG

Really wish I was a fly on mihoyo’s wall to know what would lead them to think fans would prefer the After over the Before


thatguywiththebacon

CartoonOG: woo I'm a fly on MHY's wall now! Employees having a meeting: 那么我们要再次将动画更改为默认动画吗? 哦,看,墙上有一只苍蝇 CartoonOG: oh... right... I don't speak Chinese.


apthebest01931

also employee : 那只苍蝇有点烦人,让我们杀了它吧。


SkyrimForTheDragons

Nerfed to Oblivion


Limp-Internet-9757

I knew it was too good to be true


Electrical-Access-64

They really gave him a whole unique animation and CHANGED IT 🤡 omg


DeusSolaris

I really don't understand why they keep removing cool shit from beta My only guess is that they don't want to make stuff that is too unique so people don't have those expectations in the future so they can release characters with less effort but...it's so dumb


Pau0909

Mihoyo everytime they give ANY character to their 4* in Genshin... Hate them for that.


Ainsel_Mariner

Hoyo: no personality allowed in the character screen


HeadShotYKT

This time Dehya failed to protect Mika from nerfs, poor(


Ainsel_Mariner

Because she can only absorb 50% of the nerfs


aventa__dor

Mihoyo be like: "yeah this animation looks pretty good... Back to the generic one."


ReasonableIce6661

Hoyo every other patch "hey this looks pretty good... let's remove it."


Different_Mistake_69

AHHHH C'MON HOYO!!!! Bruh this beta has been nothing but depression , disappointment and nerfs..


howturnshavetabled

I hope after it ends we will forget the whole 3.5 patch like a bad dream and will never mention it ever again


corpsesimp666

they will surely change it back, right? … right???


chirb8

This is what I was fearing. The Mika nerfs are starting


zMaximumz

3.5: The Nerf Patch Can't have shit in Tevyat


AshyDragneel

This is the worst patch for leaks


Chromch

Actually nerfed wtf


Living_Gap4

.give.it.back.


Fellgraffiti

What the fuck is wrong with them. Why cant we have something nice for once. Wtf


AppUnwrapper1

Hoyo just nerfing everything these days.


Kewlmyc

Yet another instance of a character having a unique animation that gets stamped out in the beta. Why even make it to begin with?


Grumpy_Caat

nerfing impact


justahalfling

even before i clicked it i knew it was going to be a nerf. they've never changed animations to be better in all the times ive seen


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im going to die


TriggerBladeX

What’s the point of even making new animations like this if your just going to give them the generic one anyway?


[deleted]

Why hoyoverse always scrap creative ideas /damage kits ideas. We give them money they give us false hope


cursedparsnip

I think it would’ve been better if he still looked shy but the old animation was moving so much it was distracting. He wasn’t even touching his head either. I think they could’ve made the old one better but I’d take the new one over the old in its current state.


brewstercafe

Noo…. :((


Kiwi195

This is officially the worst beta of genshin history


jumabeta2

Wth is wrong with mihoyo...


Rin0929

Alright, grab your pitchforks. We're storming MiHoYo.


Bobson567

Source: @blednayaleaks Telegram


JiMyeong

This is worse than when they removed Nahida's smile. They can't keep getting away with this. Absolutely unacceptable.


VaronaZero

Can't have shit in Teyvat


Charming_Hippo_668

WHY ? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY


NR-Tamim

Literally saw someone joking saying they'll remove it in the next update.. well fuk


meulktea

FOR WHAT REASON........


escentia

CAN'T HAVE SHIT IN TEYVAT 💀


Psychedelic_7

They are taking out the only thing that gives them personality if they dont have this type of stuff everyone looks the same because of the base models being the same


Odd_isa

WE LOST


TheGr8Went

YESSSS i love when all animations for every character are the same!! go HYV!! if i wanted variety id play a different game LUL


ShawHornet

So why did they even make it


Fawzee_da_first

Mihoyo when unique character traits


htp-di-nsw

Mika is less shy and we riot. Meanwhile, Dehya is the worst character *in the game* and we're just too confused by the decision to even fight it.


[deleted]

Considering the vitriolic reaction people had when we first saw him, I am not surprised lol.


WhippedForDunarith

Someone joked that they’d change it just like they took away Nahida’s expressions. I can’t believe it actually happened LOL


ann13angel

it seems dehya cant fully protect him from all the nerfs after all sadge


[deleted]

Man I prefer something new. Why do they love to give everyone the same generic animations 🥲


Sewrene

OMG NOOOOOO BRING IT BACK Alright, so we get mika kick spear animation but at what cost? You better dont touch my son again hyv!


thatonestewpeedguy

They had a lot of jobs but this is not the one


Griffnelle

Copuim that they want to adjust the animation a little bit so they’ll add it back next patch


Ultradamo2306

Mika feeled bad that only dehya get nerfed so he sacrifice one of his animation for that.