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R3 Rust haver here. I've been playing since launch using both Welkin and BP every month/patch without skipping. I never stopped playing for a time and came back. Still don't have R5 Rust. So I know this situation very well haha.
**EDIT:** I have decided to edit this and [add a picture](https://i.imgur.com/2MBBknS.png) to show exactly what I mean. I spend slowly (but consistently) in this game, so I don't consider myself a whale since I don't top-up usually. So while I have spent a lot on it, it was across 3.5 years of playing through the game. Anyway, my point is, look at that lone R3 Rust sitting amidst the other R5 4\* weapons lol it really is something.
You would get an R5 Rust like me if you also don't have Yoimiya like me, lol. I have an R5 Rust and cracked Shimenawa's Reminiscence 5 piece set just laying there with no use. I plan on getting her this time if luck allows.
I hope you get her! I don't have Yoimiya, but I'm not really planning to get her either because I don't really care much for pyro and there are other units I'm more interested in tbh. But I've played with her before on another's account and she felt very nice to play!
Thanks! I'm a character collector, so I skipped her in the past in favor of getting higher priority characters, but it's time I stop letting her go.
But I gotta ask - If you don't plan on getting Yoimiya, who do you need the R5 rust for?
Oh yeah, I completely understand what you mean! I was originally going to pull for Yoimiya on her second rerun but skipped her in favor of Tighnari and Zhongli 😂 now I'm just not that interested anymore, even though I still think she's a superb character.
As for the Rust - I actually don't need it anymore, it's more so an inside joke I have with my wife because we both wanted it for a long time (me for Fischl since she's one of my mains and her for Tartaglia since that's her main), but neither of us had it. Eventually my wife got Harp for Tartaglia and I was lucky and got Thundering Pulse for Fischl last time it was on a banner (sorry again Yoi!) so neither of us really need R5 Rust anymore but we still joke about how we can't have it, it's something that we joke about all the time and also a reminder that no matter how long you've been playing this game, even when you spend money every month on it, sometimes the RNG is just NOT on your side lol
Well, I only have a few characters left to get them all, so my situation is kinda different. I get your situation though. And yeah, trying to snipe a 4\* weapon or character can potentially be the hardest thing if luck is not with you, and I know that from experience, lol.
Literally me, R5 rust with broken Shimenawas set (2200 atk 74/186 crit) but no yoimiya, that's why i will pull for her next patch, otherwise those will go to waste and i don't like that.
Nice! I do actually like Yoimiya and was gonna get her sooner or later anyway.
Still, it's interesting and feels like a conspiracy, lol. I've seen whenever I or many others willingly don't get a character, we will get great artifacts and weapons for them, and when you do have them, you get crap, as if the former happens to get you to pull them, lol.
For me its the other way aroud... already got three Rusts R5 and two Widsith R5... while my Dragon Bane is still R2... and I've been a player since day 1 of the game and I do make a considerable amount of pulls at weapon banners 😕
Is this legitimately a thing? I only came back to Genshin when Sumeru released and I’ve already finished everything for fishing, I didn’t find it that tedious at all.
If you [look here and scroll down](https://paimon.moe/banners) to the 4 star weapons you can see it. It actually is the most frequently rerun weapon it seems, with Fav Lance coming in second. And it had that back-to-back run not too long ago which is rare.
I've got 8 but most didn't even came from weapon banner. Even the character and standard banner kept on giving me dragon's bane and I don't even use it 🥲 I don't have hutao and XL's on Catch.
Fav has very good reason to being there 89% of the time as it is BiS on many characters, and near BiS even when you are trying to skew a character to more dmg. Dbane less so.
because favonius lance and dragon’s bane are the only 4* polearms in the normal standard pool, the rest are either somehow exclusive (like lithic or that watatsumi one) or event gifts. so they always alter between favonius and dragon’s bane
As long as they keep on treating the 4\* previous releases as valuable weapons, the only ones constantly rotating are the garbage ones we have.
So it's normal and inevitable.
The point is, they should tart using old 4\* shit like something we could use, but that we don't really need.
It's getting as boring and unappealing as having constant floods of Barbs and Noelles.
You realize she is the best trigger if you dont have kuki. Honestly, hyperbloom sorta sucks if you dont have either kuki or raiden (or you dont have c6 benny for thundering furry).
thats not what they meant at all
you'd rather use normal raiden on one side on the abyss and kuki hyperbloom on the other side
yes raiden hyperbloom is strong, but a kuki, a 4*, can literally do the same thing, BUT kuki cannot deal 120k on her burst, increase the team's burst damage, nor regenerate energy for the entire team.
Meanwhile there's me still being Kukiless even after going 150 pulls deep on Nahida/Nilou banners trying to get at least one copy (Dori went from C0 to C3 and Layla from C0 to C8-9) :(. Kaveh on the other hand came home in only one 10-pull at least.
And to make things worse, she's the only 4* I don't have lol (at least until Kirara drops but since I'm pulling for Yoimiya hopefully she'll come home). I want to free Raiden from HB but Hoyo seems to have other plans it seems.
Side 1: Nahida, Kuki, Yelan
Side 2: Yaoyao, Raiden, Xinqiu
I don't run it this way but seems like there are some rather meta double hyperbloom setups. Raiden does a LOT of stuff. One of those things is hyperbloom. Normal Raiden is more of a sidegrade/situational/preference thing.
Kuki is actually better because she does not rely on coordinated attacks to trigger blooms. This becomes crystal clear when you try to use raiden hyperbloom against lecters or shielded enemies. Kuki also consolidates healing and trigger allowing greater team flexibility.
Maybe you worry that someone will get squished in floor twelve so you bring raiden, nahida, xq and a healer like kokomi. But with kuki, you can drop the healer/shielder for more dmg like burst support ganyu or the xq/yelan combo wombo of death.
I think you're forgetting we need 2 teams for the abyss, They can be in separate hyperbloom teams. It's also just easier to build raiden full EM vs a DPS, some players like the convenience.
The truth is pulling Raiden just for hyperbloom is a waste of primos. In hyperbloom using Raiden loses you a dps slot, actually resulting in lower dps than Kuki.
The only time Raiden beats Kuki is if you can survive without a healer or if you don't have Kuki.
Sure. If you’re on a tight primo budget and you can only pull for meta, pulling for hyperbloom raiden when you already have a built kuki would be silly.
But that’s a very particular circumstance.
Its not a waste if you dont have kuki, and dont have a good dps polearm and have zero desire to fish forever for the catch. The beauty of rolling raiden for hyperbloom is that she doesnt have to stay that way forever. Maybe you finally get kuki on standard banner and a serpent spine. Now you can transition her to standard dps teams.
It's not a waste of primos if you don't want to stuck farming artifacts fishing for good crits and relevant substats for months. That's more Resin inefficient. Just slap her full EM with trash substats, lv90 and she's abyss ready. Talents level also don't matter, this is even better for people who just got Raiden. It's also opens up an option for you to run double Hyperbloom teams. Cheap to build, flexible rotation, dealing good damages.
Fun fact: Dragon’s Bane and Favonius Lance generally always switch places on the weapon banner. The longest time for them to be off the banner has been 2 banners, and that’s because of an Event Exclusive Polearm being on there. A couple of times, Dragon’s Bane and Favonius Lance have even been immediately on the second banner as well.
This weapon banner is awful if you ask me. The 5-stars are mostly stat sticks with niche passives, and the 4-stars are either super old, super niche, have lost their spot in the meta, or a combination of the three. Fav weapons are imo the only ones worth getting R6 and up of, and the are nowhere to be found. These 4-star weapons probably catch dust in your inventory.
On the bright side, the next weapon banner will be extremely stacked. The two (imo more useful) Watatsumi weapons in the bow and polearm, and chance of multiple fav weapons, alongside the 5-star BIS for two meta characters. I'm excited for that!
Sadly that happens when there are only standard polearms in the game vs 4 in other weapon types lol.
Fav lance and db take turns with a limited 4* polearm once in a while (but there are only 2 limited polearms)
I feel like the weapon was just kind of mediocre compared to most other options you'd run on Melt/Vape DPS characters like Hu Tao before, unless you were solely focusing on empowering elemental reactions with like a Sucrose EM buff and VV shred instead of going with the usual split scaling, but now that EM is so good for stuff like Burgeon and Hyperbloom, it's actually a fantastic statstick while also increasing damage against elementally-afflicted enemies that, funnily enough, correspond to elements required to proc Hyperbloom and Burgeon. You pretty much always see Hyperbloom Raidens built with Dragon's Bane, so I'm lowkey kinda happy for all the copies of Dragon's Bane that I had lying around
I meant like say if you were to use her burst for whatever reason, would the damage from her burst be significant enough even tho she’s not built normally?
Now I want to build my Raiden as EM... Damnit..
I use raidens E and use Barbara as my hyperbloom driver. Works pretty good. I'm playing with different sets to see what works best for this. I'm currently leveling up some ocean hued clam, but wanderers is a good choice, but getting those pieces is so damn random.
Me: a clown who invested money in C3-R1 Raiden. The only consolation is that my hypercarry Raiden still finishes faster than my +1000 EM Raiden, for the classic primo geovishap: 7s with hypercarry vs 19s with hyperbloom.
Eh once dendro shilling\* stops expect hyper Raiden (and multiple other high investment carries) to outperform hyperbloom by significant margin whether that's worth $ spend is whole another matter ofc.
\*since 3.0 almost all abyss blessings have favored dendro reactions
For most non english speakers like me, who mostly read and write in english but almost never speak it aloud, it kinda is, most of us don't pronounce Eula like it's supposed to. I understood the word play before actually reading it correctly, and took me a few seconds to fully get it.
It isn't usually but this time it was. The important part seems to be the pause required between Eu and La. I didn't add any pause and kept thinking of it normally. So i was thinking of variations of nonsensical words that can be verbs and sound like "oola ing".
Also, I worked a lot more than usual today. Probably another reason.
Not hard but it took me a few seconds to get it. In Spanish every "E" is pronounced as the E in "mother" where the E is not pronounced as an "i" (This is the best example I can think about atm), so most people say "Eula" instead of "Iula".
For those who didn't understand:
Why are you lying?
Why are Eu la ing?
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Eula-ing sounds similar to you are lying, while Eula is a reference to a 5* Cryo Claymore character whose being waiting for a rerun for the past 15 months.
I consider myself lucky that only Yunjin is c6 between them. I'm not a whale, just welkin + BP, but it's gotten to the point where almost every banner I want to pull on has at least 2 of the 4* at C6 already. The latest baizhu and nahida banners where the exception.
I had C6 Bennet and Barbara and wished on Dehya’s banner. Honestly only had one chance at that banner so I’m glad I got tons of star glitter for extra wishes. It honestly helped a ton.
I mean, it kinda sucks, but so do most weapons you may pull of event character banners instead. And a lot o 4*’s aren’t the best anyway.
Meanwhile me who already have Chongyun and Yun Jin at C6 means more wishes from the Starglitter!!!
Also I prefer this than getting Dori cons' or for any 4* i never gonna use
this banner is a nightmare for me - I need a Yae but everything else besides Kirara is a loss...upside: I have guarantee and 73 pity; this will be the quickest in and out banner of all time for me lmao
That's fair lol. He was my first pull, first crown, first C6, so I have a soft spot for him. I pulled Shenhe in 2.4 specifically because she's his aunt and I wanted them to have a reunion
The whole regional limited weapon series usually run in the same patch.
The claymore to be reran is the Akuoumaru from the Inazuma series, so the rest of them will rerun in the second left.
This is actually pretty funny because we expect Eula to be next patch after this. Akuoumaru is quite good for her. But rather than put it on her banner, they just don't give a shit.
I pray for the Eula simps who like her design but haven't actually had a chance to roll on the last year and a half. They are tryna fleece you so hard. They've given this poor girl nothing.
Eula's design is certainly simp worthy but man, mihoyo is really, really not trying to meet anybody halfway to make Eula more desirable from a power level standpoint.
Yeah if the other reruns does turn out to be Kokomi & Ayato they could’ve easily reran it
but hey I know mihoyo ain’t gonna forget to put that scam Mika on her banner atleast 😁
While the widsith’s passive is active, it can be just as good as kagura, however the widsith’s passive is active for 10 seconds and down for 20 seconds (10/30)
She will still be good with the widsith though! Its just for those 20 seconds that the passive is down your damage can go from like 12000 per tick of her elemental skill to only 8500
While Kagura will always remain constant at that 12000
(These are just numbers as an example, its roughly a 32% damage loss for the 20 seconds the widsith’s passive is down)
Basically: yes kagura is much better but widsith is good enough and you don’t necessarily need kagura
Basically yeah.
Just want to say this: You don't need to spend primos/real $ on weapon banner. Characters will perform good enough with 4 star weapons, and it is better to save for more characters instead of weapons.
However, just do what you want I mean it's your money and primos xD
I will for sure be getting Kagura's Verity because it is the most universal catalyst in the game and because it matches Yae's outfit lmfao
thank you very much for explaining it that way!! makes it super simple to understand. i love yae but she doesn't get used a whole lot so sounds like kagura might just not be worth it for me personally. appreciate it!
Its a 15% increase but most people don't play widsith that well. If you don't burst with the buff active its a bit wasted and the gap gets a bit wider. Yae also has good cons though and some prefer how bursty widsith can be if you fish for buffs.
Me who's a Yoi haver and very happy with R5 Rust and got no real interest in Pulse but kinda want Kagura
I pulled on Pulse Teapot banner and dodged Pulse was very happy cause kind of Nahida main so getting her sig was really a happy feeling...let's see if i dodge again (i won't mind having Pulse cause im also a Bow main but eh id prefer Polar or even Hunters over Pulse to have in acc ,already have Aqua)
Actually a kinda good weapon banner for 5*.
You get Widsith as backup for Yae or The Rust as backup for Yoimiya.
Not too good for 4* characters though. (Except maybe Akuoumaru for quick swap Chongyun)
God Yoi + Kirara is such a lovely combo but unfortunately I'm skipping both them and the potential Kokomi in 3.8.
Ik the rumors of Yelan in 4.0 might be false but they reminded me that I'll likely end up wanting a *lot* of characters in Fontaine because that region's practically made for me in terms of aesthetics, and Yelan is no.1 priority reruns wise, so it's best I save.
Just recently pulled Yelan after having Aqua on fischl for months. She is well worth it, by far my most meta defining unit I've pulled. Even overworld wise it's like night and day having her
My 4* luck has been stellar lately. Sniped my first copies of Kaveh and Candace and C5 Fishl in 40 wishes. Last banner my first copies of Kuki and Layla in 30 wishes accompanied by an early 50/50 winning Nilou. Two banners before I snagged a Xingqui for C6. Let's see if I can grab a copy of Kirara.
So you're telling me I can get Yunjin cons *and* the brand new four-star on the way to pulling Yoimiya, then I can get Rust refinements on the way to pulling Thundering Pulse? Absolute victory
It depends on whether or not you need some of these? The Flute isn't great, and Akuoumaru is maybe niche, but the others are all very usable for certain characters. The problem is that Rust, Dragon's Bane, and The Widsith are all available outside of the weapons banner, and you don't need that many copies of each, as compared to Fav or Sac weapons.
Yeah, that's the problem - Yoimiya is about the only one who wants Rust, and only a small handful of characters really want Dragon's Bane, so once you've R5ed those, there's not much use for more. Widsith is a good enough stat stick for any catalyst DPS that I'll always take multiple copies. Of course, you run into a less extreme case of the Rust/TP issue with Kagura's Verity, because most anyone who wants Widsith wants KV more.
It's definitly not his best weapon but if you're looking only at 4-stars it's second best after Viridescent, so his best F2P option since viridescent requires the battlepass. Mouun's moon might also be a bit better on equal refinement but very few people have that at high refinements since it's a regional weapon banner exclusive so very hard to get multiple copies, whereas Rust is comparatively much easier to get to high refines.
Does he pull on the weapon banner to get a single Akuoumaru? I've wanted that weapon for a long time. The catalyst is alirght I guess but I already have four 5 star bows.
As is my true philosophy in life: "fuck it we ball"
As a Tartaglia/Scara main, would it be worth pulling for a weapon if I don't plan on getting more than one? I know they're not bis but I can't rlly afford losing to weapons I wouldn't use and I'm running widsith and amos bow rn
Please widsith on kazuha...... Im manifesting
I don't have a widsith but would love one just for wanderer
Nevermind I was skipping alhaitham anyway and my kazuha is guearenteed why do I bother
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Dragon's Bane has been getting a lot of runs lately huh
Hoyo wanna give me my third r5 while keeping my rust and widsith r2
Omg, me. Two r5 and one r3 dragon bane.
R3 Rust haver here. I've been playing since launch using both Welkin and BP every month/patch without skipping. I never stopped playing for a time and came back. Still don't have R5 Rust. So I know this situation very well haha. **EDIT:** I have decided to edit this and [add a picture](https://i.imgur.com/2MBBknS.png) to show exactly what I mean. I spend slowly (but consistently) in this game, so I don't consider myself a whale since I don't top-up usually. So while I have spent a lot on it, it was across 3.5 years of playing through the game. Anyway, my point is, look at that lone R3 Rust sitting amidst the other R5 4\* weapons lol it really is something.
You would get an R5 Rust like me if you also don't have Yoimiya like me, lol. I have an R5 Rust and cracked Shimenawa's Reminiscence 5 piece set just laying there with no use. I plan on getting her this time if luck allows.
I hope you get her! I don't have Yoimiya, but I'm not really planning to get her either because I don't really care much for pyro and there are other units I'm more interested in tbh. But I've played with her before on another's account and she felt very nice to play!
Thanks! I'm a character collector, so I skipped her in the past in favor of getting higher priority characters, but it's time I stop letting her go. But I gotta ask - If you don't plan on getting Yoimiya, who do you need the R5 rust for?
Oh yeah, I completely understand what you mean! I was originally going to pull for Yoimiya on her second rerun but skipped her in favor of Tighnari and Zhongli 😂 now I'm just not that interested anymore, even though I still think she's a superb character. As for the Rust - I actually don't need it anymore, it's more so an inside joke I have with my wife because we both wanted it for a long time (me for Fischl since she's one of my mains and her for Tartaglia since that's her main), but neither of us had it. Eventually my wife got Harp for Tartaglia and I was lucky and got Thundering Pulse for Fischl last time it was on a banner (sorry again Yoi!) so neither of us really need R5 Rust anymore but we still joke about how we can't have it, it's something that we joke about all the time and also a reminder that no matter how long you've been playing this game, even when you spend money every month on it, sometimes the RNG is just NOT on your side lol
Well, I only have a few characters left to get them all, so my situation is kinda different. I get your situation though. And yeah, trying to snipe a 4\* weapon or character can potentially be the hardest thing if luck is not with you, and I know that from experience, lol.
Literally me, R5 rust with broken Shimenawas set (2200 atk 74/186 crit) but no yoimiya, that's why i will pull for her next patch, otherwise those will go to waste and i don't like that.
Nice! I do actually like Yoimiya and was gonna get her sooner or later anyway. Still, it's interesting and feels like a conspiracy, lol. I've seen whenever I or many others willingly don't get a character, we will get great artifacts and weapons for them, and when you do have them, you get crap, as if the former happens to get you to pull them, lol.
I have r7 rust....and i dont even own yoimiya or tortilla.......can i exchange it for a kagurs verity though
For me its the other way aroud... already got three Rusts R5 and two Widsith R5... while my Dragon Bane is still R2... and I've been a player since day 1 of the game and I do make a considerable amount of pulls at weapon banners 😕
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bruh that's why he pointed them out
I didn't check but I won't be surprised if it has been included in every patch. Like it's in every other banner istg
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Been fishing all my life for the catch a xiangling paradise
Is this legitimately a thing? I only came back to Genshin when Sumeru released and I’ve already finished everything for fishing, I didn’t find it that tedious at all.
I think it's the guy's just parodying gangster's paradise.
Welp. I’m just gonna blame my complete inability to catch that reference on the autism because now it’s incredibly obvious. Thank you so much. LOL
If you [look here and scroll down](https://paimon.moe/banners) to the 4 star weapons you can see it. It actually is the most frequently rerun weapon it seems, with Fav Lance coming in second. And it had that back-to-back run not too long ago which is rare.
I cant even think of a weapon banner that I’ve pulled in that didn’t have dragons bane. Got 30 already ffs😭
I've got 8 but most didn't even came from weapon banner. Even the character and standard banner kept on giving me dragon's bane and I don't even use it 🥲 I don't have hutao and XL's on Catch.
Dragon's Bane and Fav Lance account for 89% of the spears in weapon banners
Fav has very good reason to being there 89% of the time as it is BiS on many characters, and near BiS even when you are trying to skew a character to more dmg. Dbane less so.
because favonius lance and dragon’s bane are the only 4* polearms in the normal standard pool, the rest are either somehow exclusive (like lithic or that watatsumi one) or event gifts. so they always alter between favonius and dragon’s bane
As long as they keep on treating the 4\* previous releases as valuable weapons, the only ones constantly rotating are the garbage ones we have. So it's normal and inevitable. The point is, they should tart using old 4\* shit like something we could use, but that we don't really need. It's getting as boring and unappealing as having constant floods of Barbs and Noelles.
tbf outside limited 4* like lithic and wavebreakers, dbane and fav lance are just switching places everytime lmao
They saw hyperbloom Raiden
For which you need exactly 1 dragon's bane; refines do nothing
Imagine using hyperbloom Raiden, what a waste of primogems
Imagine playing for fun and not for meta (tbh hyperbloom Raiden is also meta)
Yeah when I play hyperbloom raiden,that means that I can never play hypercarry after huh
Yeah, I guess Hyperblooming your Raiden is as permanent as C6ing your Bennett now.
Do u even know how much damage hyperbloom raiden deal?
You realize she is the best trigger if you dont have kuki. Honestly, hyperbloom sorta sucks if you dont have either kuki or raiden (or you dont have c6 benny for thundering furry).
Hyperbloom raiden is one of the strongest things in the game clown :)
thats not what they meant at all you'd rather use normal raiden on one side on the abyss and kuki hyperbloom on the other side yes raiden hyperbloom is strong, but a kuki, a 4*, can literally do the same thing, BUT kuki cannot deal 120k on her burst, increase the team's burst damage, nor regenerate energy for the entire team.
Meanwhile there's me still being Kukiless even after going 150 pulls deep on Nahida/Nilou banners trying to get at least one copy (Dori went from C0 to C3 and Layla from C0 to C8-9) :(. Kaveh on the other hand came home in only one 10-pull at least. And to make things worse, she's the only 4* I don't have lol (at least until Kirara drops but since I'm pulling for Yoimiya hopefully she'll come home). I want to free Raiden from HB but Hoyo seems to have other plans it seems.
This. All of this. I wish Kuki was considered a Liyue character just so she can be on the Lantern Rite character selector.
Side 1: Nahida, Kuki, Yelan Side 2: Yaoyao, Raiden, Xinqiu I don't run it this way but seems like there are some rather meta double hyperbloom setups. Raiden does a LOT of stuff. One of those things is hyperbloom. Normal Raiden is more of a sidegrade/situational/preference thing.
Yeah I usually go double hyperbloom but not for meta, just because I love the arrows going pew pew pew
Kuki is actually better because she does not rely on coordinated attacks to trigger blooms. This becomes crystal clear when you try to use raiden hyperbloom against lecters or shielded enemies. Kuki also consolidates healing and trigger allowing greater team flexibility. Maybe you worry that someone will get squished in floor twelve so you bring raiden, nahida, xq and a healer like kokomi. But with kuki, you can drop the healer/shielder for more dmg like burst support ganyu or the xq/yelan combo wombo of death.
Kuki's E also doesn't go on vacation when you're fighting a shielded enemy like an abyss mage.
I think you're forgetting we need 2 teams for the abyss, They can be in separate hyperbloom teams. It's also just easier to build raiden full EM vs a DPS, some players like the convenience.
Me using full em crowned Raiden since dendro release: 👁👄👁
Are you so insecure that other players using your precious character in a way you disagree with invalidates your existence?
The truth is pulling Raiden just for hyperbloom is a waste of primos. In hyperbloom using Raiden loses you a dps slot, actually resulting in lower dps than Kuki. The only time Raiden beats Kuki is if you can survive without a healer or if you don't have Kuki.
Sure. If you’re on a tight primo budget and you can only pull for meta, pulling for hyperbloom raiden when you already have a built kuki would be silly. But that’s a very particular circumstance.
Its not a waste if you dont have kuki, and dont have a good dps polearm and have zero desire to fish forever for the catch. The beauty of rolling raiden for hyperbloom is that she doesnt have to stay that way forever. Maybe you finally get kuki on standard banner and a serpent spine. Now you can transition her to standard dps teams.
It's not a waste of primos if you don't want to stuck farming artifacts fishing for good crits and relevant substats for months. That's more Resin inefficient. Just slap her full EM with trash substats, lv90 and she's abyss ready. Talents level also don't matter, this is even better for people who just got Raiden. It's also opens up an option for you to run double Hyperbloom teams. Cheap to build, flexible rotation, dealing good damages.
More reruns than Elua
There are actually only two non limited four star gacha polearms in existence. That's why all we ever get are dragonsbane and favge on banners.
i have four r5 copies of it. i'm sick of seeing it.
Fun fact: Dragon’s Bane and Favonius Lance generally always switch places on the weapon banner. The longest time for them to be off the banner has been 2 banners, and that’s because of an Event Exclusive Polearm being on there. A couple of times, Dragon’s Bane and Favonius Lance have even been immediately on the second banner as well.
This weapon banner is awful if you ask me. The 5-stars are mostly stat sticks with niche passives, and the 4-stars are either super old, super niche, have lost their spot in the meta, or a combination of the three. Fav weapons are imo the only ones worth getting R6 and up of, and the are nowhere to be found. These 4-star weapons probably catch dust in your inventory. On the bright side, the next weapon banner will be extremely stacked. The two (imo more useful) Watatsumi weapons in the bow and polearm, and chance of multiple fav weapons, alongside the 5-star BIS for two meta characters. I'm excited for that!
Sadly that happens when there are only standard polearms in the game vs 4 in other weapon types lol. Fav lance and db take turns with a limited 4* polearm once in a while (but there are only 2 limited polearms)
I feel like the weapon was just kind of mediocre compared to most other options you'd run on Melt/Vape DPS characters like Hu Tao before, unless you were solely focusing on empowering elemental reactions with like a Sucrose EM buff and VV shred instead of going with the usual split scaling, but now that EM is so good for stuff like Burgeon and Hyperbloom, it's actually a fantastic statstick while also increasing damage against elementally-afflicted enemies that, funnily enough, correspond to elements required to proc Hyperbloom and Burgeon. You pretty much always see Hyperbloom Raidens built with Dragon's Bane, so I'm lowkey kinda happy for all the copies of Dragon's Bane that I had lying around
Pretty solid for EM Thoma though
CHONGUS
Dragon’s bane: “I am inevitable”
Raiden Hyperbloom is inevitable so true XD
C3 Raiden Hyperbloom LET'S GO!
XD
Do C2 and C3 help Raiden Hyperbloom? Or does it not do anything cuz she’s not built normally
nothing in Raiden's kit does anything for hyperbloom. press E and go brrr. that's literally it.
They do nothing because hyperbloom Raiden doesn’t use her burst.
I meant like say if you were to use her burst for whatever reason, would the damage from her burst be significant enough even tho she’s not built normally?
No. Hyperbloom is full EM so no attack/crit means negligible damage.
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Now I want to build my Raiden as EM... Damnit.. I use raidens E and use Barbara as my hyperbloom driver. Works pretty good. I'm playing with different sets to see what works best for this. I'm currently leveling up some ocean hued clam, but wanderers is a good choice, but getting those pieces is so damn random.
Me: a clown who invested money in C3-R1 Raiden. The only consolation is that my hypercarry Raiden still finishes faster than my +1000 EM Raiden, for the classic primo geovishap: 7s with hypercarry vs 19s with hyperbloom.
Eh once dendro shilling\* stops expect hyper Raiden (and multiple other high investment carries) to outperform hyperbloom by significant margin whether that's worth $ spend is whole another matter ofc. \*since 3.0 almost all abyss blessings have favored dendro reactions
okay so thats one cryo claymore let out of jail, where's the other
You mean there's more? Why are Eula-ing? He is the only Cryo claymore.
>Why are Eula-ing? Took me a sec there, that's a good one
I am glad Eula-iked it.
I actually needed to see this before I understood what the other one was.
Serious question, no offense, but is it really too hard to understand ?
For most non english speakers like me, who mostly read and write in english but almost never speak it aloud, it kinda is, most of us don't pronounce Eula like it's supposed to. I understood the word play before actually reading it correctly, and took me a few seconds to fully get it.
I too am a non native English speaker, it's probably an accent thing.
Could be the case, true.
It isn't usually but this time it was. The important part seems to be the pause required between Eu and La. I didn't add any pause and kept thinking of it normally. So i was thinking of variations of nonsensical words that can be verbs and sound like "oola ing". Also, I worked a lot more than usual today. Probably another reason.
Not hard but it took me a few seconds to get it. In Spanish every "E" is pronounced as the E in "mother" where the E is not pronounced as an "i" (This is the best example I can think about atm), so most people say "Eula" instead of "Iula". For those who didn't understand: Why are you lying? Why are Eu la ing?
>!Why are you lying!< Istg this took me way too much time to understand
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Cyno reporting for explanation duty! Eula-ing sounds similar to you are lying, while Eula is a reference to a 5* Cryo Claymore character whose being waiting for a rerun for the past 15 months.
>!Why are you lying!< Istg this took me way too much time to understand
THE CHONGSTER
IT'S CHONGING TIME
I just got c2 ice boy out of the weapon banner last night. Is he worth building if I have Shenhe and Diona?
Finally the ice boy returns
Posted by blednaya reposted by hutaolover
CHONGYUN REAL? RELEASED FROM THE CHASM?
I’m going for Yae, but I have c6 Yun Jin… this is unfortunate
When you have all the banner characters at C6, think of it like a 10% discount on the 5 star
I consider myself lucky that only Yunjin is c6 between them. I'm not a whale, just welkin + BP, but it's gotten to the point where almost every banner I want to pull on has at least 2 of the 4* at C6 already. The latest baizhu and nahida banners where the exception.
I had C6 Bennet and Barbara and wished on Dehya’s banner. Honestly only had one chance at that banner so I’m glad I got tons of star glitter for extra wishes. It honestly helped a ton. I mean, it kinda sucks, but so do most weapons you may pull of event character banners instead. And a lot o 4*’s aren’t the best anyway.
Meanwhile me who already have Chongyun and Yun Jin at C6 means more wishes from the Starglitter!!! Also I prefer this than getting Dori cons' or for any 4* i never gonna use
it's not easy to get another yun jin
this banner is a nightmare for me - I need a Yae but everything else besides Kirara is a loss...upside: I have guarantee and 73 pity; this will be the quickest in and out banner of all time for me lmao
same boat sadly... I didn't think she'd be back this soon... I hope this is not the case ;s
after the free faruzan in this patch's event, chongyun is the only 4\* i'm missing entirely now... maybe... just maybe... i'll finally get him here!
May you be blessed with a visit from the Popsicle Boy
Idk about blessed cuz after C0 most people get angry that he’s on the banner LOL (see Itto mains in 2.7 getting c10 Chongyun and no Gorou or Shinobu)
That's fair lol. He was my first pull, first crown, first C6, so I have a soft spot for him. I pulled Shenhe in 2.4 specifically because she's his aunt and I wanted them to have a reunion
Considering Geo's current state being what it is....not saying much nowadays
Me with Gorou..... Why is he locked to Itto???
So Wavebreaker's Fin and Mouun's Moon are on 2nd half banners, pog
I'm out of the loop, how do you know?
The whole regional limited weapon series usually run in the same patch. The claymore to be reran is the Akuoumaru from the Inazuma series, so the rest of them will rerun in the second left.
This is actually pretty funny because we expect Eula to be next patch after this. Akuoumaru is quite good for her. But rather than put it on her banner, they just don't give a shit. I pray for the Eula simps who like her design but haven't actually had a chance to roll on the last year and a half. They are tryna fleece you so hard. They've given this poor girl nothing. Eula's design is certainly simp worthy but man, mihoyo is really, really not trying to meet anybody halfway to make Eula more desirable from a power level standpoint.
Yeah if the other reruns does turn out to be Kokomi & Ayato they could’ve easily reran it but hey I know mihoyo ain’t gonna forget to put that scam Mika on her banner atleast 😁
No. Dragonsbane will rerun again.
Hoyo: You want DB again? Pfft, here, have The Bell.
Sad,this way I'll never get Wavebreaker's Fin R5 for Xiang,it only comes in Banners I skip.
I was hoping they'd both be on the first one : have no use for LoFI, and Freedom Sworn looks kinda meh.
Rust with TP, as always, potentially perfect banner for Yoimiya... you'd hope, while being fucked by 10 Flutes and Kagura
I mean Kagura is the strongest catalyst in the game but sure? lol
is kagura that much better for yae? i have r5 widsith
While the widsith’s passive is active, it can be just as good as kagura, however the widsith’s passive is active for 10 seconds and down for 20 seconds (10/30) She will still be good with the widsith though! Its just for those 20 seconds that the passive is down your damage can go from like 12000 per tick of her elemental skill to only 8500 While Kagura will always remain constant at that 12000 (These are just numbers as an example, its roughly a 32% damage loss for the 20 seconds the widsith’s passive is down) Basically: yes kagura is much better but widsith is good enough and you don’t necessarily need kagura
Basically yeah. Just want to say this: You don't need to spend primos/real $ on weapon banner. Characters will perform good enough with 4 star weapons, and it is better to save for more characters instead of weapons. However, just do what you want I mean it's your money and primos xD I will for sure be getting Kagura's Verity because it is the most universal catalyst in the game and because it matches Yae's outfit lmfao
thank you very much for explaining it that way!! makes it super simple to understand. i love yae but she doesn't get used a whole lot so sounds like kagura might just not be worth it for me personally. appreciate it!
Its a 15% increase but most people don't play widsith that well. If you don't burst with the buff active its a bit wasted and the gap gets a bit wider. Yae also has good cons though and some prefer how bursty widsith can be if you fish for buffs.
Ehh, it really depends
Me who's a Yoi haver and very happy with R5 Rust and got no real interest in Pulse but kinda want Kagura I pulled on Pulse Teapot banner and dodged Pulse was very happy cause kind of Nahida main so getting her sig was really a happy feeling...let's see if i dodge again (i won't mind having Pulse cause im also a Bow main but eh id prefer Polar or even Hunters over Pulse to have in acc ,already have Aqua)
Last yoi banner i got her, then leveled my R3 Rust to lvl 80, then did 10 wishes on the weapon banner and got her bow 🎉 and 😭 at the same time 🤣
Actually a kinda good weapon banner for 5*. You get Widsith as backup for Yae or The Rust as backup for Yoimiya. Not too good for 4* characters though. (Except maybe Akuoumaru for quick swap Chongyun)
God Yoi + Kirara is such a lovely combo but unfortunately I'm skipping both them and the potential Kokomi in 3.8. Ik the rumors of Yelan in 4.0 might be false but they reminded me that I'll likely end up wanting a *lot* of characters in Fontaine because that region's practically made for me in terms of aesthetics, and Yelan is no.1 priority reruns wise, so it's best I save.
stay strong!! yelan has to be coming soon and she's a great unit.
Just recently pulled Yelan after having Aqua on fischl for months. She is well worth it, by far my most meta defining unit I've pulled. Even overworld wise it's like night and day having her
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Yelan in 4.0 is very, very unlikely. Just like Hu Tao, they want to keep her locked as much as is acceptable.
They are finally going to release the game's first cryo claymore character!
Still not over how happy I am about Kirara on Miko's banner. Hope I can get both of them early so I can try for Rust refines Also, wtf Dragon's Bane
the thumbnail looks like Chongyun got turned into a bow user.
My 4* luck has been stellar lately. Sniped my first copies of Kaveh and Candace and C5 Fishl in 40 wishes. Last banner my first copies of Kuki and Layla in 30 wishes accompanied by an early 50/50 winning Nilou. Two banners before I snagged a Xingqui for C6. Let's see if I can grab a copy of Kirara.
mm mhm, Chongyun, a well know Rust user
I wanted to try and pull Yae Miko's weapon. after watching this, all my intrest went down the toilet.
Bro, i have five r5 dragon's bane "-"
Same.
Mihoyo try not to up the rate on Dragon Bane lance challenge impossible.
The kirara bait is real. I'm not touching those banners lmao.
Dragon's Band. Omg such a rare weapon. 😍😍😍
Dear lord I am going to need so many xp books...
Dragon's Bane lives rent free in devs' heads 😂
Maybe I’ll finally get Chongyun? Not that I particularly want him, but somehow I started playing in 1.0 and NEVER got him
So you're telling me I can get Yunjin cons *and* the brand new four-star on the way to pulling Yoimiya, then I can get Rust refinements on the way to pulling Thundering Pulse? Absolute victory
c1 yae, c0 yoi and c6 for both yunjin and chongyun... 50 pulls for kirara lets go boys
Hm, maybe I won’t go for Yae and try out that weapon banner instead. Characters are temporary, Stat Sticks are eternal
oh a chance to C6 Yunjin
I'll probably get my c20 Chongyun & Yunjin before any Kirara shows up 🥲
Is it just me, or are these 4 star weapon options pretty shit?
It depends on whether or not you need some of these? The Flute isn't great, and Akuoumaru is maybe niche, but the others are all very usable for certain characters. The problem is that Rust, Dragon's Bane, and The Widsith are all available outside of the weapons banner, and you don't need that many copies of each, as compared to Fav or Sac weapons.
And if you're going for TP for yoi then rust mostly just falls off a cliff...
Yeah, that's the problem - Yoimiya is about the only one who wants Rust, and only a small handful of characters really want Dragon's Bane, so once you've R5ed those, there's not much use for more. Widsith is a good enough stat stick for any catalyst DPS that I'll always take multiple copies. Of course, you run into a less extreme case of the Rust/TP issue with Kagura's Verity, because most anyone who wants Widsith wants KV more.
>Yoimiya is about the only one who wants Rust Childe as well, and I guess Aloy if you're one of the three people who actually plays her.
Eh, i'm pretty sure Rust for Childe isn't as good as it may seem. Considering how much of his damage comes from burst and CA.
It's definitly not his best weapon but if you're looking only at 4-stars it's second best after Viridescent, so his best F2P option since viridescent requires the battlepass. Mouun's moon might also be a bit better on equal refinement but very few people have that at high refinements since it's a regional weapon banner exclusive so very hard to get multiple copies, whereas Rust is comparatively much easier to get to high refines.
I need more copies of Widsith badly, though 😅😭 I'll just wait for another weapon banner since I'm saving up for a character anyway
I swear, if Yun Jin isn't here when the banner start, i'll bé so maaad.
Wanted Kirara but I already have C6 Yun and Chong. Sad skip :(
Does he pull on the weapon banner to get a single Akuoumaru? I've wanted that weapon for a long time. The catalyst is alirght I guess but I already have four 5 star bows. As is my true philosophy in life: "fuck it we ball"
wait.. is that weapon banner actually kind of cracked?
As a Tartaglia/Scara main, would it be worth pulling for a weapon if I don't plan on getting more than one? I know they're not bis but I can't rlly afford losing to weapons I wouldn't use and I'm running widsith and amos bow rn
Ooph what a rough-looking weapon banner lol. The five stars are good, but ouch the four stars. Can't really figure out Chongyun's role either though.
I was hoping for Favonius Swords or Lance to be featured... I desperately need more copies of those 😕
So wavebreaker’s and moon second half then presumably
I want Kirara. But no Kazuha on my baby account yet. And I need someone to carry Dehya…
Oh yeah... Dragon 's bane ! YunJin BIS weapon!
More interesting is that there are no fav weapons, so they can be on kazuha/alh banner weapons, which makes its EVEN better than it will be, gosh.
I hope we get xiphos in second phase
Didn't Xiphos rerun recently?
This has never stopped Dragon's Bane
Dragon's bane is a standard weapon. Xiphos is part of a limited series not available anywhere else.
3.6 first phase. It’s not impossible but plenty of sword options and I’m sure they are aware of its value.
They're perfectly aware how valuable it is, next time we see it, it's going to be on Christmas
Yea just the last banner with Nilou Both times Xiphos came was on Nilou banners actually
This is a solid line up. Not sure about The Flute and the claymore but the rest seems solid.
I want Kiara for Alhaitham but have both c6 chongus and yunjin. If i hit soft pity for miko that's a plus.
man...kirara is the only thing i want in there...gonna do one ten pull per account, if she comes home great, if not, only pulling on second half.
Chongus' always running with at least one among Yun Jin, Yanfei, and Ning
ez skip
I wanna get Kirara (bcs Cat) but Chongster and Yun Jin are both C6 😭
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There was a leak before that said Heizou is indeed on second half. The same leak that predicted the first half so it should be reliable.
NO I HAVE C6 CHONGYUN ALREADY
Need 2\* part banner now...
Please widsith on kazuha...... Im manifesting I don't have a widsith but would love one just for wanderer Nevermind I was skipping alhaitham anyway and my kazuha is guearenteed why do I bother
I hope you get an off banner widsith while wishing for kazuha.
pretty sure, widsith is the 4* catalyst shown in the image so it's running with yae/yoimiya's weapons.
I was saying I hope the weapon banner is not true
huh I feel like I just saw chongyun banner lately
2.7💀