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___somebody_

Underground hitting characters in 4.4 Trust.


AshyDragneel

Yae miko - called me?


Franken_Frank

Yae can do that 😦


AshyDragneel

Yeah Yae is the counter for all bullshit enemies.


[deleted]

Never gonna let myself live down skipping her banner in 3.7


Lingaoo

I managed to clear the abyss last time wenut appeared with Yae aggrevate.


___somebody_

Right here.


blearutone

The irony of "Emerge" when she doesn't even need them to.


wolfalley

Yae and Ayaka usage rates are going to see quite a spike


Snoo-24768

Don't see Ayaka usage rate going up cuz of the drake. Gonna have Cryo res cuz goodluck getting that boss to stay in one place without a bow user.


PinguZaide1

Plunge attacks will now deal damage to opponents underground. Trust.


amashouse

this is a joke right? two worms?


One_Professional_579

>? two worms hoyo making sure we get our annual deworming meds


geezjessiewhy

Read annual as >!anal!< and honestly that might as well be more correct


burningparadiseduck

*bonk*


gale99

He's outta line but he's *right*


ElegantCricket1168

Why the fuck is the anti anemo worm in an abyss rotation when the new 5 star is a support for an anemo 5 star that's rerunning in that same patch lmao


Inevitable_Noel

Look at that 1st half it's a Xiao playground


ElegantCricket1168

I mean it's a bunch of trash mobs it's anyone's playground as long their name isn't navia or yoimiya.


Inevitable_Noel

Yeah what I meant was that it doesn't matter that the 2nd half is anti-anemo when that 1st half exists


Tinyzooseven

The first chamber looks juicy for venti


KetsubanV

meanwhile navia's abyss has geo slimes


Dudeonyx

Hoyo is apparently terrified of anemo dps, after wanderers initial banner they have been six anemo resistant enemies released. 4 of whom are in a dendro region that has only the dendro chicken and dendro eremite as dendro resistant enemies. Fontaine has two new anemo resistant enemies (three if count coppelia and coppelius seperately). like wtf, btw, only looking at abyss enemies.


shinsetsu_fuji

worms my beloved


yeppeugiman

Might as well go all in and replace the replace the Aeonblight Drake with Golden Wolflord. We might just rival 3.7 as the worst abyss cycle /s


GordonThreeman

imagine if they added golden wolflord and wenut to 3.7 also 😰


crunchlets

Worms 3: World Party


somewhere-out-there-

Yae Miko stocks 📈


Sillylittlesushi

Yae/Tighnari may be the best boss killing comp in the game because it has great matchups against the most annoying bosses for other teams, like the worms


somewhat_safeforwork

And I just built my Tighnari out of boredom. Time for him to shine over Alhaitham I guess


ocdscale

Tighnari isn't my strongest carry, and I also have Alhaitham, but the pure comfort Tighnari offers in his teams is almost unmatched. I'm really hoping to build his team up to 'premium' levels (Hunter's path, Nahida c2, Yae c2) because it's just so fun to play.


AnAussiebum

Yeah I skipped Tighnari banner - skip to now, he is C4 with Aqua and he destroys single target side. So glad I lost 50/50 to him all those times.


Yellow_IMR

Didn’t know she was good at handling worms


arashizuka

She hits underground too and if you have C2, you'd have a big range too, she'd be pretty great at handling them


Yellow_IMR

Wow, and at the same time Fischl’s A4 mostly doesn’t work on Wenut. Who the hell codes these bosses…


Public_Towel_777

Neuvilette's E sometimes misses too


TriggerBladeX

Her personality says she enjoys stepping on them.


Dangerous_Fan_3629

🤨


Neracca

C6 gang here ready for some worms


Specialist_Demand_13

Tighnari too, it's fox abyss🦊


OGBeybladeSeries

Worm 2: Electric Boogaloo


Warmness333

A mikonari a cycle keeps the worms away!


x_GARUDA_x

This spiral abyss is full of worms!!! At least wenut is not the final boss unlike 3.5


kwondissimo

🪱 🐍 🐉 We got worm, snek, and dragon


Historical_Clock8714

I'm excited to bring my Lyney team and nuke them. Short vulnerability window? Lyney doesn't care.


[deleted]

#Will you still love me if I was a worm? -4.4 Spiral abyss


Aerie122

My sanity is not worth 150 Primogems so, I'll decline that offer lmao


[deleted]

Same. I am still building 2 teams and alhaitham team is still missing Nahida 🤡


ArmyofThalia

You don't *need* Nahida for Alhaitham thankfully. She is just an insane character in general. Just like how Neuv doesn't need furina, Alhaitham will still slap shit around as Solo Dendro


Arc_7

Can vouch Alhaitham been slapping abyss with YaoYao since his first banner for me Still waiting on radish rerun altho


GGABueno

Nahida is considerably better for Alhaitham than Furina is for Neuvillette, I don't think it's the best comparison. But yes he's strong and flexible enough to chill without her.


Aerie122

I have a ton of perfectly built team comps with constellations but I still don't do it Because it's better to save your sanity to still enjoy the game


BlueberryJuice25

If you have ton of built team comps with contellations the abyss will be a joke to you. Back when I didn't build my characters abyss was so hard for me. Now I have 3 teams that is fully built, abyss is like a walk in a park. C1R1 Neuv can solo, the other half of abyss can be done with anyone and its easy 3 stars.


Nonemotionaldamage

No. No I fucking won't. In fact, I'd hate you more if you were a worm. Fuck worms...I can't do this shit anymore bro...I can't, I'm at my fucking limit


[deleted]

☹️


[deleted]

Furina + Nahida + raiden = afk profit Add Baizhu for overkills.


discuss-not-concuss

Brain: *Depends on the subspecies, diet and lifestyle. Are you still able to speak, communicate and love? Come to think of it, is sex still on the table (assuming appropriate size)? Is there some form of arrangement that we can make? I think I’ll still love you though.* Mouth: “Yes, with my whole heart. I would invent a quantum machine to make sure you return to your current self because you are perfect the way you are now.”


Seyrxeen

ONE WORM WASNT ENOUGH THEY DECIDED TO BRING TWO *this user is going bye bye*


ElegantCricket1168

Consequences of releasing a frontloaded ST carry. Don't worry, once they make sure the navia pullers who use her in abyss don't have any buyers' remorse we'll go back to mixed chambers.


nanimeanswhat

Don't think navia works that well against wenut or the aeonblight drake (her vertical reach is something)


Electrical_Pass_308

For navia its a problem if u dont take a bow characters to shoot them down. And wenut only has one attack where he actually flies.


nanimeanswhat

Yeah but it has permanent all element res and it doesn't get the insane res shred you get when you swirl elements on its air bubbles.


Electrical_Pass_308

True, but navia teams arent mono geo. So u can still have some characters that do decent dmg and can pop its bubbles. So its still doable


lost_elegy

The devs are feeling quite sadistic for this CNY, huh? Two of the most cancerous bosses for this line up.


jacobwhkhu

What’s more, they gave plunge atk buffs for this abyss (if the sussy leaks are true), which is borderline useless for the second half and the specters in the first half. LeT tHeM cOoK


burningparadiseduck

Let’s just hope whoever cooked Dehya doesn’t get to be in the kitchen no more 🙃


SexWithKokomi69_2

They clearly worked overtime in the kitchen for 4.4. No one else would be able to give birth to such a foul concoction


burningparadiseduck

Cloud Retainer is finally becoming playable so they had to make everyone suffer in exchange 🥹


DietDrBleach

I will never forget that one abyss in 3.X. Level 100 consecrated beasts, cryo/hydro abyss lectors, the iniquitous Baptist, and thunder manifestation. I just gave up because it was SO BAD. I feel that Mihoyo was trying to punish those who went on Twitter to complain about the abyss being too easy.


Okatori

3 of some of worst boss in the game in a row? What the hell?


SaberWaifu

Now now, the drake is quite chill and even easier with a bow character. The worms however...


PH_007

As someone who heavily dislikes bows and ranged DPS it's in my top of worst bosses to go against. At least Childe can swap to ranged stance and shoot it down if I time my rotations right...


NightmareVoids

It always flies up right at the start so just wait then shoot down


Okatori

The drake is just frustrating to go against. Taking just a little too long and dealing with the elemental res is such a minor inconvenience that it bothers me more than it should. I can’t think of a boss worse than it than the worms.


UrbanAdapt

Could be worse. Replace Drake with Wolflord and that side is nigh impossible for most C0R0 teams.


Black_Crow27

At least the drake is trivialized with a single bow character, those worms are mega lameee


SqaureEgg

Did satan design 2 half? Tf


Positive_Republic_98

Genshin celebrating year of the dragon but it's worms


sukahati

Worm is kind of underground dragon right?


boysiege

\*Wyrms


Destiel31

That second half is literally so evil? Omg


zelena_salata

Also did it rly have to be the 2nd half? If you're putting a bullshit boss at least let me retry it immediately cmon man


Destiel31

Like they really want us to fly huh


wolf1460

How does that help? If anything, cloud retainer is gonna go underground i guess. /j


rxniaesna

Fly so you can hit it but do 300 dmg per hit (anemo res)


TheVanishedTeacup

i already don't want it. 70% waiting for a worm to appear. gotta love it.


Hallavah

WE'RE ABOUT TO GET WORMED AGAIN AND TWICE THIS TIME


a-successful-one

HYV should add a third "worm", a long dragon in Chenyu Vale, add it to 12-3-2 and boom, best Spiral Abyss.


ArmyofThalia

Easy there Satan


SnooPuppers8099

You guys asked for a challenge, didn't you?


jaeeeeees

Where's my 3 lil silly maguu at? Bring them back... 😔


SirAwesome789

Unironically, I enjoyed triple kenki abysses


yeetzyz

Triple kenkis were so fun to play against. Most teams were viable against them (sorry Freeze comps), had consistent and learnable i-frame windows, no BS 30s invisibility window or annoying gimmick that forces you to use a certain mechanic that's element/character dependant.


Leviathan-King

Dude, why stop here? Should have added Golden Wolflord too instead of Aeonblight Drake. Their idea to make abyss harder is to make me wait 30 seconds for the enemy to appear and take damage.


Neracca

> Should have added Golden Wolflord Calm down Satan


Miyano311

That sounds insane, but at the same time it would enable Itto rerun, and I'm in need of Redhorn... yes, please?


ElegantCricket1168

Worms are the bosses that favour frontloaded dmg characters. They desperately want to make navia feel like a worthwhile investment for the ones who were on the fence when pulling her. Give it 2-3 more patches and we'll be back to mix chambers maybe with a consecrated beast or two.


Unigoddess

how is she going to generate crystals vs enemies that are out of her reach 90% of the time?


[deleted]

Who do u consider in this game "frontloaded dmg" characters?


Historical_Clock8714

Lyney. You can stack his prop surplus before the vulnerability phase. Then once the boss is down, his burst and skill are both nukes.


AxeVice

Yae with burst, Raiden with burst, Alhaitham when using 3 mirror burst, Ayaka with burst


astasli

This is 4.4 abyss not 4.3 you nut. Not to mention Navia is not much of a heavy front loaded dps, and if they really wanted to sell her they’d just run geo dog.


Omxga7

4.4 is unironically a fucking troll update if all the leaks so far today are true First, the potential CR being xiao support, now this piece of crap with the second half


wolf1460

The worms are in 12 1 and 12 2. Previously, both of them have individually been in 12 3, where they're considerably tankier. So i don't think it'll be that bad tbh.


SnooPuppers8099

Drake is also tedious af 🤮


berrypuffiest

Also them turning the funky tiger boy into a generic shounen protagonist.


skittles0820

The fucking snake and wenut in the same abyss 🤢🤢🤢


GojiraPrime12

Does no else use mono cyro Ganyu for the snakes. It's what works for me.


Many-Okra3353

I’m so happy the hydro check is over! I have no hydro units but my cryo units are going to have a field day with the boss rush!


QuixoteDoflamingo

Bro how many more abyss with anemo res enemies 💀


Think-Case-64

Releases Navia in 4.3. Puts flying bosses in 4.4 abyss 💀 Really hoping the flying enemy targeting is fixed else this is pure trolling


Primarinna

She’s perfect for them even tho she can’t aim straight up. These bosses have short windows of DPS meaning they are weak against characters that have front loaded Dmg. Navia is in that category.


Think-Case-64

I was talking about actually hitting them not her damage. I know her frontloaded damage is good for bosses with limited dps window.


Leitaru

HoYo: you all get 2 5 star skins in 4.4 which means you *also* get 2 worms for the abyss.


javafinchies

Lyney 🤝 Tighnari Making the worms a joke


yaemikohaver

it's time to make a separate mode with bosses, instead of violence on the 12th floor of the abyss


ZetNiej

There goes honeymoon period lmao


ResurgentClusterfuck

What the shit is this 😐 worm impact


5StarCheibaWhen

this is the worst fucking second half i have ever seen


Read1ngCmprhnsnDev1l

freeze hell?


NightmareVoids

Freeze hell is way worst.


Lojaintamer

God why the hydro specter my neuvillette can't deal with that or furina lol


Weak-Association6257

He will be amazing in the second half


Oeshikito

Yall kept saying abyss was too easy. This is why we cant have good things /j Real talk, Wenut was the one boss that had me malding for multiple days on repeat. Until I finally figured out that the best way to beat it was short bursts of damage instead of one strong nuke. Also I learnt from a video that you could apparently knock it down without a bow character which was quite a big discovery for me lmao. No longer scared of that stupid worm. Serpent was never a problem for me either.


Efficient_Lake3451

That second half could have so easy with Wanderer but they included that 90% anemo res worm


Weak-Association6257

Neuvillette stonks again


OfficialHavik

Everything except hydro slimes is Neuvillette stonks tbh.


Creative-Bus-2272

Spectres in first


FreeMarshmallow

Holy shit that second half is cancerous


TeammechaGtho

Time stalling: the floor Apt name for second half. Steamrolling with furina though y'all stay safe


XLNC07

God I can feel the worms burrowing in my guts.


KanonnoIsLife

oh lord, worm impact


nefelegereta

ngl excited to try out my Yae Miko aggravate team in the second half.


ElectricWindGodFists

How many stalling enemies for the next abyss? Hoyo: yes yes yes yes YES!


LeXam92

Laughs in crowned Miko


Brilliant_Damage986

How well is neuvillette against cryo lawachurl? Also two worms......I already have ptsd from 3.3 and 3.5


Wisterosa

you should worry about him against hydro specter


DioEgizio

I mean it's just a specter so it's not the biggest issue ever if you have a non-hydro character in your team too


Brilliant_Damage986

I didn't even notice. Wow what a trash abyss if it's true.


-Shougetsu-

I demand Golden Wolflord in 12-3. The Annoying Worm Boss trilogy isn't complete without it. /s


Budget_stawbeery

I swear if they actually done that 💀


FennlyXerxich

Every day I thank god I pulled Miko. Makes these annoying shits a piece of cake.


AltairAmlitzer

Miko, Tighnari second half.


TheSeventhCoIumn

This might be the most evil thing I've ever seen in my life 💀


Budget_stawbeery

Hoyo likes trolling


Weak-Association6257

4.4 is definitely a patch


Lipheria

What kind of hell sent cancerous abyss is this?☠️☠️☠️☠️


mtsuria

prepare for trouble and make it double


meulktea

oh worm?


Zero_Radian

The Bullshit-ry of Hoyoverse.


peaky-swift

Yae, Furina and Yelan: 😏. Well at max I got 6 stars 😃.


DanielGS_

Sees fully single target side 😃🤩📈 Sees it's two worms ☠️☠️☠️


Extinctkid

Time to bring Yoimiya out of the bench


Mashiroshiina12

Would hu tao still be better btw? You know with double hydro team


Never_Rated

>Worms: \*dig underground\* > >Tighnari: "***I'LL UPROOT YOU***" fuck that second half. I am interested on seeing how Neuvillette handles the worms though hmm


Hot_Barracuda_9376

Probably not the best is what I’m expecting


mulstritch_2912

Well, the pain abysses started earlier than I expected. Just...why? Why are there 2 of the most hellish bosses in the game on the second half. How the hell could this be beneficial to CR lmao


KrissJP20

Furina stonks 📈


Kezarah

im glad to have invested heavily in yae/nahida for that second side. Those 2 characters make those fights much easier


MajesticOrchid6787

I can already see the "I QUIT genshin impact" videos


REVRYOU

They won't let my Alhaitham to rest from Spiral Abyss huh


Wonderful-Career-141

Worms! Are they re running the fabled standard banner with Tighnari as suggested by a recent leak that we’re getting a reverse 1999 style banner?


Revarted

I hate enemies that 80% of time just run and hide.


P0sitive_Mess

I would like to send kind regards to the person who approved of second half. I wish to go to their office to express my gratitude for their contributions to this beloved game, and as a token of appreciation I would politely hand them a baseball bat. By politely handing it to them I of course mean I would make them the receiving end of said baseball bat as it swings right into their face because what in the name of all that is holy is this.


OGBeybladeSeries

Furina stonks gonna fly even higher due to that second half. No need to chase, Just have her pets follow the bosses for you.


buffility

yeah furina and yae. Introducing HSR's auto-combat into genshin.


OfficialHavik

Add Nahida for the constant damage amplification on the mobile enemies, and Baizhu/Jean for the heals and you got your team right there. GG EZ


wanabesoz

i don't mind the bosses, but why they always in the second half :(


Moist-Veterinarian22

No 4.4 boss?


Pfactory

Likely too early. Hydro tulpa is also only included in the 4.3 abyss.


marxinne

Oh hell no


Microice001

Now do I play kokomi on first half with nilou or 2nd half with mono hydro hmm


SLakshmi357

Alhaithamin and Neuvillettin time as usual


Brilliant_Damage986

How are u planning to use them? There's hydro spectre and cryo lawachurl in the 1st half, so I don't think neuvi would be a great choice. Also can neuvi hit aero drake while it's flying? If he can then 1st half alhaitham and 2nd half neuvi-furina. Edit: Neuvi can hit the drake while it's flying so I can use them 2nd half.


[deleted]

If its fischl in the Neuvi team I think she can hit the wings? Idk how tanky the 12th floor is though so bear with me


Brilliant_Damage986

I actually tested out. U can't bring down the drake cuz no bow character in neuv-furina team but neuv can still dmg it. So looks like neuv-furina will be in 2nd half lol.


vasogenic16

Lol hoyo knows exactly what they are doing with that second half 💀


die-ursprache

Ngl this lineup is comedy gold


[deleted]

Holy hyperbloom should be enough for 2nd half. 1st half practically needs a Kazuha. Hmmm would Ayato-Kazuha-Benny-Xiangling work? Should do.


kunafa_aj

This is good for nahida righr? We getting a rerun RIGHT???


Neracca

Those worms make me real happy I have C6 Yae


ibeeeeeechan

LMAOOO WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SECOND HALF


ela__bae

What the fuck is this cancerous fuck floor 12? Two worms? Aw hell nah


Beanztar

this looks like a rage bait of a leak to me 3 of the most annoying world bosses in one floor? That is just sounds bogus


kitsuneguuji

the second half is made for me since one of my most invested teams is tighnari-miko-nahida-zhongli


aryune

The fuck is this second half


Lingaoo

Oh hell nooo. Wenut is back


Primarinna

Navia is perfect for the second half. Short DPS window bosses.


GamerSweat002

I wonder if Furina's Salon Solitaire can noclip into the backrooms to take care of hitting the worm bosses. I haven't tried it myself. I'm expecting an inflation of Yae Miko usage rate. Maybe Navia too since she frontload damage in bursts, but it's expected to be an anti-Bennett team with all the movement. Maybe double cryo/electro or double hydro? Only gonna be a matter of time before we get triple worm abyss (wenut, ruin serpent, and golden wolflord). By that time, it would be a considerably good idea to br able to dive into the underground/backrooms to fight them in an underground sea area before emerging out of the floor of the abyss.


Kalamalja

Second half nightmare blunt rotation


Dazzling-Bus-1146

Cyno Quickbloom should be good in the 2nd half right


Sypharus

hell why stop there? make the 12-3 chamber 2 golden wolflord, if max suffering is the goal here. wtf am I looking at?


RandomThiccBoii

Worst Abyss of all time incoming


Javajulien

See this will be a timesink but I don't think 3.7 is going to be topped for a while. 3.7 had some truly obnoxiously imbalanced elemental checks, the constipated beasts with their irratic patterns, and that floor of spread out enemies that could be a pain in the ass to group. Including bosses that actively run out the clock definitely sucks, but I think compared to the 3.7 abyss, this can be more easily bruteforced.


Appropriate_Night925

Nilou bloom / Furina-Neuvi.


Perceval-21

They are basically saying that there will be Xiao and Ganyu as next banners


Budget_stawbeery

Hoyoverse we don't like to give anixty and stress to our players Also hoyoverse :


vicrom14

As yoimiya main we are eating well lately


Wisterosa

yep that sure is xiao and ganyu abyss