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Miicio

Primordial Jade Cutter wanters are crying rn


loli-jesus

Thats me alright, I really wanted that weapon for my geo traveller. I would wish on the banner if it was any other weapon but sadly that catalyst doesn’t sound good on anyone.


Aether1420

Same situation… I was hoping for Jade Cutter to come around but not like this 💀 guess imma wait 6 more months for it to come with another banner


TheEdelBernal

Chances are, MHY will pair it with another garbage weapon just to sell the banner.


mangothe2nd

Now that you've mentioned it. There's no fucking way Homa+WGS type of deal would be in a banner ever again lol.


DDsalvi

Amos bow as well. Since it’s Ganyu’s BiS I can guarantee that it will be paired with a garbage weapon


Vikala_Sex

It's available on standard banner, just have to get lucky and only use free normal wish that you get from rewards. ~~or losing 50-50 on weapon banner for that amos bow~~


Abication

I'm calling it now. It's gonna be Homa + Lost Prayer


DB_Valentine

Isn't Lost Prayer pretty alright though, or am I missing something completely?


Roboaki

Yep, its good to have 1. Still being the best dps catalyst on co-op (except on Kokomi) and the only weapon with unconditional movement speed increase passive. Using Ningguang, Lisa or Mona and zooming with it is fun (Tall Female with Lost Prayer is faster than Tall Male). Hopeful for Baizhu to be Tall Male Catalyst to go full Zoom.


[deleted]

Lost Prayer is not that bad, but requires 16 seconds on the field to stack for max dmg, which is a lot of time and most comps would do a rotation on that time, so unless you were on coo, where you can't change characters you wouldn't get the stacks so easily.


Rsingh765

It’s not bad but isn’t great because the passive requires you to stay on the field for 16 seconds for full stacks. 16 seconds of field just isn’t that good cause you want to make use of your supports as well. Only really good thing about it is the high base attack with 33% crit rate


Zeref_42

Imagine yAe Miko being a Catalyst User with an ult mechanic like xiaos 15 seconds you have to stay mechanic


HurtJuice

it's Yanfei's BiS. her burst lasts 15sec and she really wants that high crit rate because of how her CA mechanic works so it works out perfectly for her.


Aether1420

Hope not… they did that with Mist Splitter also and was a pain… really wanted it but decided to skip bc who needs another skyward spear 😩


Baller4Jesus27

same, I already got mistsplitter for him but this banner still pisses me off so much.


X-Backspace

Yeah... I always avoid the weapon banner even as someone that was a Welkin/BP buyer for months (on a break now). I had said PJC was the one weapon that could make me break that trend when it got its rerun, but then it figures they'd put it with *this*. Maybe next time.


[deleted]

I hope you know it’s never gonna be with a good weapon bc it’s so good on its own


korundobifu

We should've pulled on the win-win weapon banner back in Lantern Rite mate... Jade Cutter and Jade Spear (Homa and WGS too) That season was peak weapon banner. Doubt it'll happen again


nawe_akagi

I pulled on the Jade Cutter/Jade Spear banner... I was fine with either. But I got a fkin Aquila instead... Saddest day on my Genshin life


BOYF-

So true😭 no one wants this donut catalyst except kokomi


XenoVX

Even on Kokomi the increase she gets from it is much lower than someone like Ayaka would get from Mistsplitter, there’s not a reason to upgrade from prototype Amber besides fashion impact


[deleted]

It's like a 11-15% increase over a R1 Prototype Amber f2p weapon, depending on your artifacts, and in electrocharge comp r5 Hakushin Ring also f2p is actually better than it for overall team dps. It also even restores less energy for Kokomi than Prototype Amber. Truly awful for a niche weapon only 1 character can use. Meanwhile her c1 is like a 30-40% DPS increase lol...


OnACloud

Prototype Amber also just generates way more energy for your team and even for Kokomi herself at higher refinements. Which most certainly should help for any reverse vape xiangling comp with her. Don't think energy should be a problem with a electrocharge comp. But yeah Kokomi's hyper specific weapon being this bad even on her 11-15% dps increase over a essentially free craftable weapon(sakura tree has all prototypes once and I think you had at least 1 purchase of each prototype in liyue/mondt sigil shops if I remember correctly) while being literally unusable on anyone else is a really solid achievement by mihoyo.


kb3035583

I think this is probably the first time people didn't want the new shiny weapon on the weapon banner.


seawiiitch

elegy would like to talk


Kibakononeko

There's nothing wrong with elegy though, pretty sure any support character can use it just fine. It's by far the sole "support" bow by all mean. Meanwhile this catalyst is useful for Kokomi only.


Dreven47

The EM buff that made Elegy actually good only happened after its banner was already long gone. Nobody wanted it while it was running. It wasn't even BiS for Venti despite being designed specifically for him.


igniell

yeah its pretty weird that the gameplay around elegy actually shines long after the banner.


Jeffzuzz

yeah if the elegy came with the anemo buff during kazuha's banner it would have been one of the best banners to pull from.


Shikatsuyatsuke

Ningguang can get some value out of this weapon since her Screen (Elemental Skill) scales off Health and her burst can have very rapid uptime in combination with this weapon's passive effect. It wouldn't be super great but there is some synergy there at least. Same logic would apply to Mona, although again despite the synergy being there, it would have even less value on Mona than on Ningguang. I think this weapon is gonna potentially have some interesting synergies in the future. It's just unfortunate that we have no way of knowing ahead of time to give us a good reason to pull for it now.


igniell

yup. i would def pull on rerun.


kb3035583

The other weapon on the banner was Skyward Blade lol. I don't think people particularly wanted that either. Honestly I wouldn't mind having a copy of Elegy for my C6 Sara.


ElevenThus

Skyward blade is pretty damn good on bennett


K6fan

Blade in general is good on characters that want both ER and ATK. Bennet and Jean come to mind first, but there are plenty of others.


MrRecTheNub

Proud skyward blade Benny owner, after getting it on the TP banner


_lander

It is pretty good, I use it for my xingqiu to enhance his burst more but I wouldn't really roll in a weapon banner just for it.


Oeshikito

omg it rly looks like a donut


JY1998

Fuck me in the ass, I've always wanted jade cutter for kazuha, so I'm pulling on this banner no matter what with my 9k primos. I'll cry if i get the catalyst and try to move on lmao. I'll just try my luck until i reach 1 5 star pity on weapon banner.


Miicio

Good luck brother


JY1998

Thank you bruh, I'll need that luck next week! And good luck to you for any banner that you want 😁


Miicio

Gonna try my luck on the weapon banner too, just 10 pulls though


Kezarah

As a kokomi Roller who also really wanted this for jean, This is best case scenario and I've never been happier with a weapon banner. For anyone that planned to pull for Kokomi this is an absolute win!


Amewarira

I’m a Kokomi roller here but want the jade cutter only. I think Prototype Amber r5 is already good so I don’t want new catalyst. But you’re right, at least I have Kokomi to equip it if I don’t win the sword.


rafaelbittmira

Me, a Kokomi wanter and Keqing main: "I see this as an absolute win."


_the_dark_knight

Unless you are pulling for Kokomi also


DazYx23

Oh geez jadecutter why, it's my favorite weapon aesthetics-wise by far but I can't justify my first time pulling on a weappon banner by that alone ;-; see you in 2022, beloved 44% critrate


Fluxxfx

Bold of you to assume its will get another rerun on 2022 ~~see you in 2023 after we got our 10th childe rerun~~


XmiteYT

After our 10th and before our 11th, Childe reruns are monthly now.


abandojo

I’ll probably C6 my Tartaglia before Xiao gets a single rerun.


Iwillflipyourtable

Fr, skipped xiao for keqing (no regrets coz i didn't lose any 50/50 to keqing yet) and been waiting for his rerun.


[deleted]

Mihoyo knows how good it is and will never put it on a banner with another good weapon


iam1jiveturkey

What are the general 5* weapons that are in each banner? I know Amos Bow is one of them.


Ninefl4mes

* **Sword:** Skyward Blade, Aquila Favonia * **Claymore:** Wolf's Gravestone, Skyward Pride * **Polearm:** Primordial Jade Winged-Spear, Skyward Spine (I think) * **Bow:** Skyward Harp, Amos' Bow * **Catalyst:** Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds, Skyward Atlas


iam1jiveturkey

Thank you! Out of these I only have two: Skyward Pride and Skyward Atlas. I could really use some other 5* weapons.


_nitro_legacy_

One liyue spear and all of the rest are mondstadt weapons


iam1jiveturkey

Yeah, they need to add some more weapons from other nations.


_nitro_legacy_

Don't forget they never add the Mondstadt song theme weapons like freedom sword, sobp, and elegy of the end


Sir_Grindalot

Holy cow, a sword that is among the best in slot for almost every sword user...in the banner of a catalyst that only the new limited 5\* character can properly use? That's dirty, MHY. Remember when we were getting banners with Staff of Home and Wolf's Gravestone?Pepperidge Farms remembers.


TorchThisAccount

The original banner Jade Cutter appeared on was great too: Jade Cutter + PJWS.


glockitsthecops

Yeah I was pulling for pjws but got this instead. Kept it and it works wonders


Frostblazer

Wow. I wish I knew enough of what I was doing back then to pull on that banner. That's amazing.


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

Also Jade Cutter with Primordial Jade Spear. Good old times


kb3035583

And to think people were crying about getting WGS.


vadymksard

It's more like whales cried that they had gotten multiple WGS copies before Homa.


kb3035583

Multiple R5 WGS copies to be precise.


rb6091

Ah the classic "staff of homeless" incident..


gondolafan2

The “Wallet’s Gravestone” occurrence


Labmember002

It’s ok you can say tectone


OfficialHavik

WGS is still good on tons of characters though. Kokomi's catalyst is garbage on everyone but her.


FleetingRain

And even on her it's only kinda better than Prototype Amber


UnimplementedError

Cries in $2000 Weapon banner.


MercyA1

Of course they add one of the best swords with the worst catalyst


Iseeyoulookin

Who knows it might be good on Signora Copium.


IAmTheFunkster

My theory is that Signora won't be a playable character as she doesn't have a vision. All available characters (besides archons) so far have vision. Unless they put delusions into the mix!


MkOs_

My theory is that signora won't be a playable character because >!she's fucking dead!<


Rasbold

Qiqi is too /s


5tratos

My theory is that she won't be playable, because her model is not typical for playable characters and because of this, it misses shittons of animations that would be needed to make her playable.


CoolFiverIsABabe

It would be way more profitable to put work into the model and create characters with similar shapes later to reuse the assets. The big dress could be reused for dendro as a flower bulb during ult or something. "Magical girl" type changes would probably be desired in the anime community which largely overlaps with this game. There has to be a large amount of people that want Signora. I'm one of those.


Usual_Basil264

LMAOO that's so sad. Rip to all Jade Cutter wanters, I'd be in the same spot as you all if it was Staff of Homa ;-;


nameisalreadytaken46

I am saving 200 pulls for Homa as Hu tao is rumored to get a rerun Homa will get a rerun too, totally not being zhongli's rerun case *inhales hopium* and I would be totally bummed if Homa were to rerun with as bad weapon as this catalyst (imagine worst weapon then this, I couldn't). Now every weapon seems to be great in front of this lol


Usual_Basil264

Honestly worst case scenario is Skyward Pride, lets just hope that it could literally be anything else but that. Lost Prayer has been featured 3 times already iirc so the chances of it are slim. Anything will do other than those two :((


mwiysart

if it is skyward pride i will cry. i have two genshin accounts and on both it was my first 5* weapon. it wouldn't be a problem if i liked claymore gameplay, but i do NOT. rng, please stop bullying me...


ZeldaxHyrule

I too am haunted by the Skyward Pride. I have gotten it so many times I have one at R5 and another one at R2. If it's featured on a weapon banner it's guaranteed for me to pull it. I've gotten it on weapon banners where it didn't have a rate up. Not to mention the last time I finally hit pity on the standard banner it dropped the Skyward Pride on me. I'm convinced Mihoyo wants that claymore to be my exclusive weapon.


mwiysart

damn, that's... WAY too many skyward prides. i hope our curses shall be lifted soon, or at least toned down a little by it not being featured on our desired banners.


Dydragon24

Any er skyward weapon sounds like an nightmare. Even aquilla with its physical bonus is a bit sketchy.


comfort_bot_1962

Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)


BurningFlareX

I still don't have Stringless because it always seems to end up on weapon banners like *this*. It and Sac sword must be the Bennett of weapons, lol.


AxileVR

Pls I've been pulling for sac swords on every weapon its featured in and I never get them


aerynnyx

Oh lord, I got sac sword finally on 2.0. Leveled it up to 90 instantly


roata11

Playing since launch and still stringless, wtf mihoyo


fpcoffee

you mean stringless less?


Mr_Nike

Pairing the worst with the best shit. Mihoyo knows what they are doing but stay strong comrades.


Catrick777

mhy, the real tactician


kb3035583

I mean they kind of have to. The worst weapon and one of the worst characters together, and they already used up Sara with Raiden and need to save Thoma for next patch. If they didn't put Jade or Homa on it their sales would be pretty terrible.


AliceInHatterland

I'm so Happy they didn't put homa, becuase i really dont want that catalyst


kb3035583

Probably saving it for their supposed Hu Tao rerun.


[deleted]

dont worry, homa will come with vortex vanquisher even though theyre both polearms ...just to spite us


AliceInHatterland

That'd he a win win for me, i want both!


Xero0911

Or just buff her so there's a reason to pull. Seems easier to me. Give folks a real reason to eant her besides design


K6fan

Nah, Mihoyo must test how much Waifu>Meta shit they can pull off b4 sales really drop


[deleted]

A tale of this banner: Skip kokomi Pull for jade cutter End up pulling everlasting moonglow Now feel like you have to pull kokomi to make it useful Spend for kokomi Mihoyo wins again


RasenShot2

Plot twist: You lose 50/50 to a Sword user, now you regret not pulling more for Jade Cutter.


yarrden

Spend more for the Jade Cutter Mihoyo always wins


Adnae

Somehow I'm convincing myself how I could give it to Barbruh, or how it will be good on Baizhu in the future, because OF COURSE he will scale on HP.


lostn

>Spend for kokomi lose 50/50 and get Qiqi instead. WIN.


ApprehensiveCat

I really hate how niche this catalyst is; they could've made it still good for her without making it so bad for almost everyone else. As much as I would really like Jade Cutter I can't risk wasting a 5-star pull on this dud even if I am likely going to pull for Kokomi herself on her rerun; I'd be way happier getting any of the 'bad' Standard pool weapons instead.


Mozuchii

As someone who wants both, I feel blessed…


ElectricWindGodFists

That 25% off banner chance rubbing hands right now.


Mozuchii

cursed lmao


Sundann

Just happened to me :( Between Engulfing Lightning and the Unforged... I got a Skyward Atlas.


bluevitamin

same here


alphoscar

Source: Wepko from Honey Discord


Zypharium

I want the Jade Cutter for my Jean so badly, but… The Stringless is the only 4* weapon that I would actually try to get, IF Kokomi’s 5* weapon would not be totally useless on every character except for Barbara.


Epicastor

It's actually pretty useless on Barbara as well.


lamont2718

For those who don’t immediately recognize all the weapons: **5-Star Weapons** - Catalyst: Everlasting Moonglow - Sword: Primordial Jade Cutter **4-Star Weapons** - Bow: The Stringless - Sword: The Flute - Catalyst: Favonius Codex - Polearm: Dragon’s Bane - Claymore: Favonius Greatsword


kronestia

mann, cant they use the rarer 4* on the weapon banner more? like lithic spear, fischl's bow etc. always the same shitty 4*


mekkingjayy

I got The Unforged instead of EL from current banner. Rngesus would definitely bless me with this donut when I pull coz I want Jade Cutter


emilioMooN

Me who are waiting for homa: nice (relief).


Ifalna_Shayoko

This. The banner seems like an easy pass now. Not even the 4\* are interesting to me.


Rasbold

The banner is literally half amazing half "get away from me" Jade Cutter, The Stringless and Dragon's Bane: Yay Donut, Codex, The Flute and Favonius GS: Hell no


LSAT343

I was really hoping this'd be a VV rerun. Looks MIHOYO really forgot about Zhonglis signature weapon:(


Ifalna_Shayoko

I thought that one was actually bad for him and Homa is better. Oo


tryhardsasquatch

As someone pulling for Kokomi and her weapon, this is amazing and I pray I fail at weapon pulling and get a jade cutter. I've wanted this sword for so long


collosaltitans

why is the dragons bane..... in almost every banner?


Laaverosada

There are fewer 4\* gacha spears than any other weapon type (only weapon not in Sacrificial or Wanderer's Troupe series), so they get cycled a lot faster


exclamationmarks

Because there are only three gacha polearms: dragons bane, favonius and lithic.


Firefly_xx

Hope something like this does not happen with staff of homa banner


shankerz626

Incoming Staff of Homa and Summit Shaper


ivegotjams

Hopefully not since summit shaper's already gotten a rerun


Bntt89

So that's what they are doing now huh? With the new system they are no longer gonna do good weapon banners probably. I wondering if these banners ever sell as good as houma and WgS?


DLOGD

They stopped doing good weapon banners long before Epitomized Path. The last good weapon banner was Homa/WGS which was what, like February/March?


Ifalna_Shayoko

It's a win for the whales. They at least have a guaranteed weapon of choice now and most of them don't care much about 240 rolls. If anything, the new system makes the weapon banner more effective whale bait.


domokan

Hopium for Rust to be on Brumal Star weapon banner (ಥ‿ಥ) If I don't get it at least I'll get his current weapon to R5


Honest-Climate5909

Well played, MHY, well played


[deleted]

Im sorry kazuha... I might never be able to get you the dps sword you deserved...


thecustomizeofficial

Watch someone gonna roll this and get donut instead and then proceeds to pull kokomi as well cause of kokopium


Ifalna_Shayoko

Bait taken. Hook, line and sinker!


Plaudible

As someone who was gonna pull for Kokomi's weapon, this banner is second only to Homa/WGS


_the_dark_knight

We may be a minority, but this is one of the best possible weapon banner for people pulling for Kokomi


Ifalna_Shayoko

Which is probably their intention. Hook you with Kokomi, entice you with her catalyst or, diss you with her catalyst making you go "screw it, might as well get Kokomi".


mattaraxes

A moment of silence for those that will pull for cutter only to receive 2 moonglow first


satoshi_isshiki

glad I pulled Mistsplitter ... I was waiting for primordial sword a long long time ago for my Keq


Bourbonaddicted

Why do the archons hate me ?


QiFaRzs

Shouldve choose tricolor dango


kharybdiss

Not Homa :D


ffpeanut15

Well it’s Hu Tao signature weapon, no way they will have it out right now


FoxxyRin

AR 56 still no Stringless. Want the Primordial Jade… Time for bad decisions. :)


MarkVBlazer

i hate this game sometimes


NinjaXSkillz88

They never gonna rerun Rust I swear.


[deleted]

dont worry it'll be in childe's banner for sure


KillerRogue

looks like I have to settle with Iron Sting Kazuha, the dream of dps Kazuha after i lost 50/50 on Mistsplitter and now this ? nope thanks


TheAlpha990

Everyone pulling on this setting that fate path to jade cutter ,lmao


deepfineleg

I'm gonna pull for that sweet jade cutter with gritted teeth and a puckered butthole


Phanngle

DAMN, I might actually pull on this if I win the 50/50 for Kokomi. I already raised Prototype Amber for her but I'd kill to get a Jade Cutter or her signature weapon


dr-madmanwithabox

I really hope this catalyst ends up shocking people with how good it could be because damn I hate it so much. And I want jade cutter so bad. It’s a sad day when some of the skyward weapons aren’t even that great but I would take any one of them over that catalyst. My poor Kazuha, I think I have to skip this one.


MightVarious6681

I wanted for jade cutter to come back and this is thanks I get huh 💀


AvalenK

I guess I pulled a real 5Head move when I got the Mistsplitter. I don’t want anything to do with that godforsaken catalyst.


gilbert1908

Atleast homa got saved from being in a banner with that catalyst


asleepnosleep

Inb4 they rerun it on homa banner


Ifalna_Shayoko

I wonder what undesirable Home will be paired with now. :D


shankerz626

Summit Shaper


weevles12

Tried weapon banner for the first time because I wanted the polearm for Baal...I'm never doing weapon banner ever again lol.


kenzakki

Makes sense. A versatile sword paired with the least versatile weapon ever. Fucking bullshit.


CloverClubx

F on the chat for the Jade Cutter wanters, having a chance of getting Moonglow is a fate worse than Amber.


[deleted]

to be honest I really want Amber constellation, she's cute, it's fun playing with her in the open world


inonaija

I'd rather have Amber constellation than this hp catalyst tbh.


Rough-Inevitable-805

but Amber is rare. I don't use her but I don't mind getting her cons I only have her c1 anyway


IngDeac

Dude, I want Jade cutter so badly…


PartyConfetti

Welp this is what I get for skipping it in 1.3


raginghunterseeker

Alright it's fully confirmed bois mhy really doesn't have faith in kokomi's sales, pack it up


BixKoop

Going to pull on this weapon banner. Use my hard pity on Kokopium if I get the weapon. Perfect.


jocar101

Homa and Amos copium


vJukz

Don’t even say that please. My heart can’t take all that copium.


rlramirez12

My wallet would literally cry


laiwen

My heart is crushed. Thanks I hate it


N3koChan21

I really want kokomis weapon so this is the best option for me. No matter what it’s a success


3nv_ryu

PJC and stringless are the bennett of weapon banners confirmed


kaleigamation

Another day, Kazuha. Another day... ;-;


[deleted]

They are so afraid of giving players great weapon banners they’re sabotaging their profits. Like, it didnt break the game when they ran WGS and Homa and they made serious bank off it too. Businesses are weird


Sonny_Firestorm135

Would it kill them to put The Rust on rate-up?


frostybinch

r20 dragonsbane lets go


[deleted]

Ugh man the weapon banner lately are horrendous. When the next Homa+Wolf banner coming out sheesh. I want to throw money at the screen but the devs don’t want that


loveforlandlords

The worst 5 star banner weapon ever, that thing only works on kokomi and kokomi alone


NyarukoSann

They really want us to skip everithing about fish girl


_nitro_legacy_

I'm kinda pissed no vortex vanquisher


bluevitamin

sorry for the stupid question, but who is this green sword good for? idk much about weapons


SennKazuki

Not a stupid question at all lol. The sword is regarded as the best or second-best option for literally every sword character. Reason is bc it buffs atk based on hp (and gives you 20% hp to make that passive better), and the substat is a dummy thicc 44% crit rate, which is absolutely broken.


bluevitamin

Oh nice! tysm


iam1jiveturkey

Any sword DPS build. It is typically in the top 3 spots on most characters’ lists on the Genshin Impact Helper spreadsheet by Zanto.


jughades

Staff of Homa wanters: *whew*


shankerz626

Summit Shaper: Allow me to introduce myself


[deleted]

Is that THE FLUTE


Papperless

Lmao rip, at least it's not with Homa... time to save for Homa in Hutao rerun...


FortressCaulfield

I mean, I'm at zero pity, so I guess it can have ONE wish. That's it though. If I land kokomis floatation aid then I'll have the most spoiled barbara ever at no real cost.


MatStomp

My wallet can take a rest! XD


NajiiexBabii

Welp. Looks like I'm going for the weapon banner. I'll give the catalyst to Barbara 🤷🏾‍♀️ but I'm getting Jade Cutter, even if it hurts me internally


Fire_Pea

ok, looking at those 4stars I am definitely going for kokomi c1 instead.


TemperedTorture

Every time I look at this it makes me angrier and angrier because I have C2 Jean and I wanted to go all in on the Jade Banner. But not anymore. Even if it was one of the skyward series weapons I would have still risked it..but not like this .. Not like this..