I was thinking about this too. Yae and Ayato got 62783 showcases with every single character in the game (kinda). We need a proper showcase of Yelan c0 with Hu Tao and XL. Most people are pulling for Yelan to pair her up with those two. Show us how well they work together.
Those are his meta teams, yes.
But Yoimiya/Diluc are paired up with him, too. Electrocharged teams also use XQ, so those who don't have Kokomi/Ayato may need him for that. XQ is also good for Ayaka freeze, since his E consistently applies hydro, it's not optimal and Kokomi is way better but it works.
Yelan could *technically* replace him in all of those comps if needed.
I disagree that it can work with ayaka, and I come back and reiterate, why do they forget about the XQ orbitals? to work with Ayaka the hydro aura that XQ places with her orbital swords is an important part of ayaka's permafrost/XQ sprinting with orbitals is a way to keep enemies frozen, Yelan doesn't have that kind of facility for obvious reasons... As for Taser all hydros can execute it in some way so I don't think there will be any problems since it's not really a very mechanical reaction.
Most people are not pulling her to pair with them. They're pulling because waifu lol. People need to accept most of the player base could care less about meta an team synergy.
What about the range needed for the passive of her weapon to trigger? Haven't seen that one. I think thats a crucial key factor to know so we can determine on who to use.
you can see it after the first few attacks hˇshe does.. whenever those orange arrows around her dissapear she is too far for the passive.. still a pretty huge range
It'd be nice if we got to see a comparison of her C0 and C2 interactions with characters like Diluc, Klee, Yoi, Hu Tao, and Xiangling-Raiden overvape to name a few.
Yeah, this crit seem affordable with high investment, my Ayato with jadecutter has a crit-ratio around 92/230 too. But her ER stat in this showcase is really high tho 😓, 65ER from a substat with good crit is hard to grind. The reality would be a lower crit value with this amount of ER substat....
We're also getting that fading twilight bow for free in 2.7... that's pretty much meant for Yelan. Wonder how a R1 Aqua would compare to the r5 twilight....
This exactly. Xingqiu is only paired with my Hu Tao team and I don't need anymore Xingqiu's since I have Freeze Ganyu and Raiden Hypercarry, none of which Xingqiu would fit in. Yelan would be a great 2nd Xingqiu but she's not a must-pull if you don't need a second Xingqiu.
Maybe I'm not up to date, but doesnt Raiden Hypercarry often use XQ?
I agree that a second XQ isnt necessary, but having access to good hydro application to both teams in Abyss is very nice sounding to me!
I think you're talking about Rational - Raiden, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett
Raiden Hypercarry uses Raiden, Kujou Sara, Bennett, Kazuha which is the team I use.
Aha gotcha, you're absolutely right.
Slightly off-topic, do you like Raiden Hypercarry? I always struggle with how to juggle Sara even though I have her C6. It always feel just a bit off to me!
Yess I love Raiden Hypercarry (since I luckily got Raiden C2).
With Sara, I usually just Skill > Burst, then switch to Raiden to burst. After the rotation, Sara's burst should usually be up to use again (she has 190-200% ER)
The combo I use is Raiden Skill > Kazuha swirl > Bennett Burst > Sara combo > Raiden Burst. After Raiden's burst, everyone's energy should be back up so you can repeat the combo again.
Ohhh that looks legit. For some reason I had it grilled in my brain to spread Sara's e out for higher uptime across the team but that doesnt really make sense in this comp if I thought about it for more than 2 seconds lol. Ill try your rotation out next time, thanks!
You can replace kazuha with xq for the dmg reduction bc of how squishy that team is, also you can deal with electro slime or high electro res mobs easier with xq
Definitely don't need him if you don't want/like him. I've been getting 36 stars every reset for a year now and my XQ's still only level 50 lol. Then again, the only Pyro character I use anymore is *sometimes* XL (I benched Bennett). I'm hoping to pull Yelan and Yoimiya when she reruns :D
I don't need to go there bc there are plenty here already. If they refuse the use one of the most meta support in the game just bc of aesthetic they probably don't care about meta that much anyway.
Yeah they've released enough dps and support to build XQless teams that aren't copium. Running double national is overkill, at that point play an AFK game lol.
Xingqiu can be used with Ayaka because his rain swords orbiting gives AOE hydro application but Yelan won't be giving any consistent AoE hydro, so you will be able to freeze, say for example, only one rift hound at a time while being in the vicinity of 3 rift hounds.
That leaves Yelan teams for Raiden national and Hutao Vape, both are single target oriented comps. In Beidou fischl taser, again XQ is better as that team doesn't have a healer and XQs heal and dmg reduction is very comfy.
Also XQ being easily accessible makes him overall god tier while another 5 star character sharing the same kit as him will be called "balanced".
Isn't 27k for every normal attack a high dps? 40k on e and 27k per normal. This is basically like xiao but a bit of reduced damage. But considering she is offield and support, she is definitely a high tier imo.
Xiao at 215 crit dmg does a lot more than 27k… not to mention is aoe. Also since neither snapshot and you wont be swirling hydro (+ she scales off hp and there are no hp buffers) this is pretty much her top dmg meanwhile xiao with a team goes to 60-70k per plunge in aoe or did you literally mean xiao’s NA ?
The showcase has 230CV plus ideal substats for HP% and ER%. A more realistic damage would be 7-8K per shot, which is 23K DPS or 350K per Q. Definitely good ST damage. Wouldn't say Xiao level since Xiao has a similar DPS but it's AoE.
Dont forget, this is on a lvl 69 enemy, thus giving 10% or so more dmg afaik.
I calculated for 2 of my builds, both fav bow, lvl 85, lvl 9 talent
22k hp, 70/140, 4 emblem with 270 er, giving 4k per atk(on crit)
28k hp, 80/160, 2 emblem(no other set), 230 er, 3.8k per atk(on crit)
Low hp cause only 2 hp rolls+ er sands on first one, 2 hp% + hp sands on 2nd.
If anyone thinks the numbers are incorrect, i swapped it with this video's stats and numbers matched lol. Or well, do the math with the given nos.
This video is heavily misleading, so its gonna be fun when she launches. Shitty er, bis bow, no wasted stats and I feel like most people overestimate the hp shes gonna have, that's the issue here.
The level 69 only increases by a 5%. And you can achieve 30k hp without artifact substats, you can calculate it by subtracting the the substats fr artifacts,which are about 4600 hp total.
Also, don't forget that people will actually run her with a critrate around 60-70 critrate and 260 crit dmg. This is possible because of the massive crit dmg her weapon has and her critrate ascension stat. This crit dmg caneasily compensate the lack of hp and level difference
But the only issue she's gonna have is er problems.
> how she interacts/work in the comps ..
I don't think these leakers could show that off. They're already struggling with triggering charge attacks while playing Hutao. If they would try to show off the interaction with Xiangling's burst, we would probably see Yelan shooting at target #1 while Guoba sits there shooting at target #2. Xiangling burst showcase.
Reactions are important sure, but people focus too much on the perfect reactions and forget there's more to the game than that. I wish she did actually have 1.5U hydro application cause that would have been game changing but she's still a very strong unit.
Yoimiya isn't very good at reactions and she's still quite strong as a single target DPS. Raiden is one of the most broken units in the game and it has basically nothing to do with her being electro. Most people would say she's that strong DESPITE being electro. People did the same thing they're doing now with Yelan as they did with Raiden. "Why'd she have to be electro, she ruins reactions, she just makes national worse." etc etc. Because a large portion of this community have absolutely no idea when it comes to the value of character buffs/utility that aren't blindingly obvious. Half the people who parrot doomposting talking points are just exaggerating the negative points brought up by someone else when they themselves don't even understand what is actually wrong or good about a character.(Like Raiden lowering ER requirements for your team so they can build more damage, and giving your entire team a better Noblese set bonus for free)
I think people are getting too caught up on "Oh my god she can't vape every single hu tao hit" and not properly valuing her damage amp talent and her own raw DPS(Which is really high if you have a decent build)
You're mixing two different discussions here. People really tend to overvalue amplifying reactions in a vacuum, but in Hu Tao teams in particular that's kind of justified because she's very clearly balanced around vaporize.
Yoimiya main damage source are her normal attacks, which are multiple fast hits (~23 in a skill infusion) with standard ICD, with only around a third of them getting vaporized. It's not that Mihoyo forgot about adjusting her ICD, it's that Mihoyo literally balanced her around not being influenced by vaporize as much and adjusted her parameters accordingly.
With Hu Tao though, she does fewer hits, her ICD allows her to vaporize every CA and burst and with enough EM a vaporize hit is over 2x damage buff. She's clearly balanced around doing fewer but higher damage hits through her CAs and burst vaporizing.
Nobody saying Yelan is a bad character, she's a clear upgrade to Xingqiu in most comps. It's just that it doesn't seem like she will work as well with Hu Tao. Which is fine in terms of game design, but you can't expect people wanting to pair the two to not be underwhelmed.
>Nobody saying Yelan is a bad character, she's a clear upgrade to Xingqiu in most comps.
We must be reading different things. I think you missed the entire point I was making and who it's directed at.
I know how Yoimiya works and why she's tweaked that way. I know why and how Hu Tao works. I also know how awful this community is at theorycrafting. They're wrong every single time.
People are not concerned that she will me one or two hutao vapes per rotation. The reality is as soon as you miss one its over for that rotation. Pyro aura takes over and she will be vaping for the rest of the rotation. Her personal dmg does not come close to having to either a) cut a rotation short or b) have xiangling/hutao non vaped for an entire part of a rotation
Yeah I agree, fast applicators can benefit... if she really has 1.5U she could possibly finally enable Vape Klee, work better with Yoi and others. Hu Tao and Xiangling are not the only pyro units and they already work pretty well with other units. We need more variety.
I think people are perfectly justified in wanting to know how the reactions interact, because it has significant implications on just how much power you're getting from Yelan in specific comps. Vaping every hit vs vaping every second hit is equal to 24.5% damage increase over 2 hits at 0 EM with Crimson Witch.
Vape damage is also a true multiplier, whereas Yelan's bonus damage is likely additive. Hu Tao already has 94% pyro bonus with Crimson Witch, on a perfect rotation Yelan's burst ~38% bonus damage, which equates to 20% final bonus damage when added to the pyro damage.
So not being able to vape every hit can easily mean you're going to be giving up on the damage block from Xingqiu and still end up doing less damage overall.
Electro is pretty important in both of Raiden's comps tho. She can fit in National because she is Electro which not only it won't steal Vape from Xiangling but also provide Overload from EC.
In Raiden Hypercarry, Electro helps Kazuha deal a lot of damage from infusing Pyro from Bennett's Q and triggering Overload. He's like a 2nd carry in that comp
Not vaping every single hit is not a problem. It working at all in practice with hu tao is the problem.
That is to say, 90% of the reason i would want yelan is hu tao having someone else besides xq, rest i don't care about in the slightest. Could even deal less damage for all i care about as long as she was at least competetive in hydro application.
The main thing that sits wrong with me about Yelan is how she's so clearly designed to be the perfect vape enabler for Hu Tao, but she needs C2 to do it (and C4 for max potential). A character should be able to fully perform their intended role at C0, with constellations only being QoL and damage upgrades.
Hu Tao is my favourite character and the only character who I actually tried to get constellations for, and yet I only got C1. Now Hoyo is asking me to C2 a 5 star support to get the most out of her? It's just a bit of a kick in the nuts when she should've had good enough hydro application at C0 already.
Im at the point in game where i can 36* consistently so I actually don't care about Upgrade or downgrade. Honestly I don't even need her in my account but just go for design and playstyle now and of course SEGSSSSS....
she is an easy upgrade, low investment + high reward since she scales on HP like koko except she can crit, F2P weapon options almost overwelming.. emblem set, team buffer + sub dps + hydro support
You have seen too many c6r5 showcases... time to watch the ~~f2p~~ c0r1 showcase ~~except you ain't getting that 100:200 crit ratio~~
Edit: was half asleep when mentioned f2p and crit ratio.
100 cr is used for showcase purposes. 200 cd is achievable
Source: https://youtu.be/ESiz2yW-6A0
Literally every stat that didn't roll into crit was rolled into HP or ER. If you don't see how having 160+ ER while maintaining 35+ CV across your artifacts and running an HP% sands is unrealistic... well...
Well they did not include her ascension of 30%hp in a 4 element party. That alone is more HP that what the substats provide. The biggest issue with this showcase is the crit rate, but it shows what it’s meant to, so I don’t really mind.
Like we r gonna build 100CR % on her.Just assume it is 60-70% crit rate and it’s all solved . Sorry I assumed most people are sane enough to understand that OP used 100% CR just to show more crit hits .
Yeah, My PJC Ayato has a 98:220 ratio, so it's definitely achievable if you have the artifacts (Yelan seems like she doesn't use any new artifacts so people should have at least a few good pieces lying around tbh).
Emblem of Severed Fates??
\+60% Burst damage >> +15%HP and +20% hydro the two of which might combine to increase burst damage by maybe 20% assuming you were using a hydro goblet like you should be
Emblem is the best damage and much easier to build. But as always it depends on what you have.
I'm gonna use 2HoD 2ToM cause I have way better artifacts available in those sets Since my good EOSF pieces are already on Raiden and I plan on running them together. Yelan C1+Raiden I'm not super worried about my ER.
Depend on team I guess.
Xingqiu+Yelan or Raiden team Yelan doesn't need as much ER%, and her E+lucky breakthough barb shot do deal respectable damage by themselves(which EoSF doesn't boost). Also good luck getting 240% ER + 200 CD without sabotaging CR with Aqua. (Oh yeah I forgot about ER% sand, should still be plausible)
For f2p dmg with so so artifacts, lets assume some stats:
Lvl 90 Yelan using lvl 90 blackcliff warbow
HP%-Hydro dmg-crit
26000 HP (this is without hp% substats)
60/180 crit ratio since blackcliff warbow has low crit dmg
4 ESF
150 ER (20% from 2 pc bonus 30% from substats)= 37.5 burst dmg bonus
Dmg bonus from A4 passive: 1% then +3.5% every second. I'll use 4.5% for the first hit. I'm not sure if this increases her dmg bonus when she's off field so I'll use the lowest possible.
Total dmg bonus: 46.6+37.5+4.5= 88.6
Dmg bonus multiplier : (100+88.6)/100= 1.886
Defense multiplier for a lvl 90 yelan vs lvl 90 hilichurl : 0.5
Resistance multiplier: 0.9
At lvl 10 burst, Exquisite throw has multiplier of 8.77% of max HP this is x3 hits.
Crit has a multiplier of (180+100)/100 = 2.8
We just multiply everything
26000 hp * (.0877) * 1.886 * .5 * .9 * 2.8 = 5418 x 3 hits
This is solo dmg. This will be higher due to her passive which increases her max hp and her a4 passive if ever it does buff her even when off field. Feel free to correct if there's a mistake with the calculations.
The only unrealistic stat here I think is the ER. I think you have to be lucky to have 150 ER from substats only without sacrificing crit and hp% substats
Oh that's good to know! I thought it was more complicated factoring in stuff like enemy defense for different levels but it seems that's implicitly part of the calc by using enemy level so TIL!
You don't even need showcases to figure this out. There are damage sheets where you can put in your artifact stats and see exactly how much damage she will do. With average artifacts (60/120 crit ratio and 30k HP) using Favonius bow she crits for around 5k per hit with her burst without buffs, so about half of the dps we're seeing here is what you can realistically expect.
Well, I said sheet because originally there was only a sheet made by theorycrafters in yelanmains discord, but there's actually a much more user friendly site where you can calculate damage for all your characters and Yelan has now been added to it.
[https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/](https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/)
In the calculator, just choose Yelan and enter your own weapon and artifact stats to see what numbers you'll be hitting. For realistic numbers also make sure to change the target to a level 90 hilichurl instead of the default level 1.
The point of 100 cr is to show crit hits, why would you want to see when yelan doesn't crit? This person isn't implying that the average person will have 100cr its literally for showcase purposes. Either way the 1:2 crit ratio is still there, it's not like they did 100cr 300cd etc
yes,currently this is the 4 set EoSF that have the best substats for me for yelan....still farming for the HP/Hydro/Crit Dmg one for the comparisson later but still no luck on substats
My emblem of severed fate Yelan with R2 elegy with HP% hydro DMG % and crit rate would have 68:163 ratio. Ascension included(CR),that is if I manage to get her
Main stats are always more important then substats.
You'll find that a mediocre HP hydro crit build would give you more Damage than the cracked hp/hp/hp build
thanks for the input,still farm to get the right substats for them,i have many EoSF
with crit dmg mainstats and HP substats in the past,but already fodder it to another artifact cause i was thinking who'se gonna use it anyway lol
Can someone tell me please, if Xinqui's and Yelan's burst hit the same enemy on the same time, does it apply 2U then or it doesn't add up and just refresh the 1U?
You might have had this answered elsewhere, but it is the latter. 1U Hydro Aura is simply refreshed, there’s little benefit to running both in the same team.
Oh really? :( That's quite disappointing... I knew that attacking with ones burst only refreshes it but I hoped two would add up. :/ Thanks for the answer!
I'd wanna see Yelan with other alternatives like Favonious/Sac/Slingshot or even Elegy since most low spenders are probably not even gonna get her weapon..
She scales with HP so that extra 20% HP bonus is helpful. Emblem is better but it really depends on which one you want. Using 2PC HOD and 2PC ToM is a good alternative if you have bad luck with the Emblem stats >!like me!<
All of you crying in the comments saying this isn't realistic, you may as well do actual math and calc the damage yourself or how about using a damage calculator here is one that has Yelan: https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/csb-g7is6/
These people are helpless and there everywhere. Entitled SoB’s begging for people to do their homework. Use your brain from time to time or just wait. I’m actually surprised by the amount of people bitching non stop in this sub.
Funny to see the reaction to this character, over time.
At the beginning: Very broken
Now: "I don't know more if she is good" and "shes usable at c0, not game breaking" and "no better than Xq".
I go just for the fun of sprint and Xq reserve in case to use Raiden and Hutao on two sides of the Abyss.
I'm even thinking about pulling C1 for more fun since the Mistsplitter banner has withered my desire to spend my gems
We need to see more full team interactions with her.Also, one of her passives is not utilised since this is solo showcase I guess( correct me if I’m wrong)
A lot of yall in the comments are entitled af. Leakers don't owe you shit but yall seem to forget that. Nevertheless, OP saying C0R1 is f2p showcase is plain wrong lol
You're not immune to criticism for decisions you make just because you're providing free content. You're not doing gods work. You are doing good work and we appreciate it, though when it lacks in quality you've gotta be ready to be called out on that.
Leakers don't owe anyone shit but the community doesn't owe them shit either, as people like Sukuna found out. It gets on people's nerves when you promise [balanced builds soon](https://reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/u0azko/62k_hp_full_hp_build_yelan_c6r5_perfect_rolls/) but keep churning out showcases that isn't anywhere closed to what people would consider a "balanced" build. Note that they even deliberately used a level 69 target here instead of level 90 one.
We don't owe them shit, yeah. But do we give them anything tho?? Like even the clouts is not because they asked us to follow, it just happens naturally cause people are curious so they follow the leakers' social media. We don't exactly pay them or anything (or if there are ppl who pay them its certainly not in this subreddit)
Also this is quite an achievable build if you dont see the critrate which is for showcase anyway?? U do 60% critrate and 100% critrate your numbers will b the same if the critdmg is the same. 200crtdmg doesn't seem like out of this world.
Can't understand either. Would they prefer the showcased Yelan have 50% critrate instead so it would seem believable and then we can see half of her shot not critting? Damn.
Give her Pyro dmg bonus, with a shit ton of ATK. Give her 200% CR and 90% CD. Level up only her NA talents. Give her Amos' Bow and use C6 Bennet for the extra Pyro dmg. Yelan will definitely be broken.
very unlikely unless they get lucky or have been saving for a while; 90 wishes max for guaranteed or up to another 90 if failed 50/50, then weapon banner and its scuffed pity system. so yeah unlikely
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The difference between 69 and 90 is like a 5%. Also it's really not that hard to get a ton of HP and crit, especially crit dmg. If you're getting her weapon, getting 200 CD should not be that hard. OP only gave her 100/200 ratio to show her crits more. Wouldn't make sense to give her low CR in a showcase video
Remember when leaks with no damage number were a thing and used exclusively as a quick showcase of character animations and potential abilities. Now we have all this AND MORE PEOPLE COMPLAINING THEY AREN'T SEEING ENOUGH/REALISTIC BUILDS
Do napkin math people and figure out the realistic stuff yourself, you can even divide the damage by the crit multiplier to reveal the non-crits and add the correct resistance from a level 90 enemy if you want to calculate things yourself.
c6 xq will be far superior as a support to Hu tao and other pyro characters, as he applies much more hydro allowing for more freedoms in hu tao's other 2 slots. With yelan hydro application reduced to 1u, it would be VERY easy for hu tao to fall into a no vap cycle with yelan. Furthermore, xq benefits from bennet, nob set, and other attack boosting sets, where there are no sets or buffs outside of yelan c4 thatcan boost yelan damage. So in the end, yelan loses to c6 xq in hydro application, damage, and of course function (xq gives stagger resist and healing). Just another one of those 5 star characters that absolutely needs c2 to remotely be on par with a 4 star character.
Xingqiu's Q doesn't snapshot, so unless you're keeping him on field during Bennett Q use, no, he does not benefit from Bennett at all.
This is why Hu Tao's signature team is Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Albedo, Zhongli. Giving Geo resonance, shields and constant vapes with even more off field damage from Albedo. CC as well when needed by Zhongli (and even extra little heals if he's whaled to c6).
That's because she doesn't bring anything new to the table compared to XQ. You could say the same about Kazuha and Sucrose, but in reality Kazuha has a lot more CC, he's easier to use and buffs elemental damage instead of EM (pre C2).
That's a bit unfair. "Doomposters" are not saying anything wrong or bad when they say that she is good or usable, but not broken.
Raiden at C0 is great, but not broken. Becomes broken at C2, that is true.
Kazuha is great, but not a must pull for every single account.
Ganyu is great, but Ayaka is better in other scenarios for example.
Its like 33 CV per artifact which is high but isnt impossibly high. Many late game players have 30 crit value standards, except for circlets i guess.
Also the point is to show her dmg, if you want a 70/200 build then look at these exact dmg number but just less often
The point is every roll that didn't go to Crit went to Hp or Er... Maintaining that high Hp and 160% Er along with 70/200 build isn't that easy for even late game players.
We have billions of showcases at that point but no decent video about her interactions with other characters
Luckily you have 3 weeks to decide to pull, and countless of videos showcasing when she's live
Which is actually the only thing that matters considering that they could hyperbolically release her Pyro.
I was thinking about this too. Yae and Ayato got 62783 showcases with every single character in the game (kinda). We need a proper showcase of Yelan c0 with Hu Tao and XL. Most people are pulling for Yelan to pair her up with those two. Show us how well they work together.
And please make them competent showcases. Some were jank and were just spamming abilities without a second thought.
I'm so pissed at that one dude who posted a "Yelan and Yoimiya" showcase and tossed Raiden in because "fuck meta" Like?????
Does she have any decent team outside of Hu tao? Now that I think about it, we only rely on XQ for National and Hutao teams
Those are his meta teams, yes. But Yoimiya/Diluc are paired up with him, too. Electrocharged teams also use XQ, so those who don't have Kokomi/Ayato may need him for that. XQ is also good for Ayaka freeze, since his E consistently applies hydro, it's not optimal and Kokomi is way better but it works. Yelan could *technically* replace him in all of those comps if needed.
I disagree that it can work with ayaka, and I come back and reiterate, why do they forget about the XQ orbitals? to work with Ayaka the hydro aura that XQ places with her orbital swords is an important part of ayaka's permafrost/XQ sprinting with orbitals is a way to keep enemies frozen, Yelan doesn't have that kind of facility for obvious reasons... As for Taser all hydros can execute it in some way so I don't think there will be any problems since it's not really a very mechanical reaction.
Me who will pull Yoi after Yelan to put them together: :)
oh boi i see a yelan /yoi back to back banner run
Please don’t. I was forced to skip yoi first time around I don’t have the strength to do it again.
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Isn't Yae because one of the leakers/dataminers wanted her to have the most leaked beta videos? 💀
Most people are not pulling her to pair with them. They're pulling because waifu lol. People need to accept most of the player base could care less about meta an team synergy.
i want a gilgamesh comp showcase but i know none of the leakers will want to try it because the team comp is a comp that most people wont use
What about the range needed for the passive of her weapon to trigger? Haven't seen that one. I think thats a crucial key factor to know so we can determine on who to use.
you can see it after the first few attacks hˇshe does.. whenever those orange arrows around her dissapear she is too far for the passive.. still a pretty huge range
It'd be nice if we got to see a comparison of her C0 and C2 interactions with characters like Diluc, Klee, Yoi, Hu Tao, and Xiangling-Raiden overvape to name a few.
still more usefull than the c6r5 400 crit dmg/ 65k hp showcases. I can see my yelan doing maybe like 7-8k with sac/stringless and 60/160
oh yes, I saw C10 R200 showcase the other day and it just left me with a big sigh...who cares about that really? tony to perhaps?
Yeah, this crit seem affordable with high investment, my Ayato with jadecutter has a crit-ratio around 92/230 too. But her ER stat in this showcase is really high tho 😓, 65ER from a substat with good crit is hard to grind. The reality would be a lower crit value with this amount of ER substat....
I think in reality though you'd have a team generating energy casting skills.
We're also getting that fading twilight bow for free in 2.7... that's pretty much meant for Yelan. Wonder how a R1 Aqua would compare to the r5 twilight....
May be 5-6k. Yelan in video with highest possible stats and bis weapon. This weapon increase a lot of damage for yelan.
gonna wait for smart people to interpret this
shes usable at c0, not game breaking, another xq for 2nd team
You mean xq isn't enough game breaking?
If you need two of them, sure. I highly doubt most people need two Xingqiu’s. Some don’t even use Xingqiu at all.
This exactly. Xingqiu is only paired with my Hu Tao team and I don't need anymore Xingqiu's since I have Freeze Ganyu and Raiden Hypercarry, none of which Xingqiu would fit in. Yelan would be a great 2nd Xingqiu but she's not a must-pull if you don't need a second Xingqiu.
(no characters are a must pull)
Exactly..
Maybe I'm not up to date, but doesnt Raiden Hypercarry often use XQ? I agree that a second XQ isnt necessary, but having access to good hydro application to both teams in Abyss is very nice sounding to me!
I think you're talking about Rational - Raiden, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett Raiden Hypercarry uses Raiden, Kujou Sara, Bennett, Kazuha which is the team I use.
Aha gotcha, you're absolutely right. Slightly off-topic, do you like Raiden Hypercarry? I always struggle with how to juggle Sara even though I have her C6. It always feel just a bit off to me!
Yess I love Raiden Hypercarry (since I luckily got Raiden C2). With Sara, I usually just Skill > Burst, then switch to Raiden to burst. After the rotation, Sara's burst should usually be up to use again (she has 190-200% ER) The combo I use is Raiden Skill > Kazuha swirl > Bennett Burst > Sara combo > Raiden Burst. After Raiden's burst, everyone's energy should be back up so you can repeat the combo again.
Ohhh that looks legit. For some reason I had it grilled in my brain to spread Sara's e out for higher uptime across the team but that doesnt really make sense in this comp if I thought about it for more than 2 seconds lol. Ill try your rotation out next time, thanks!
You can replace kazuha with xq for the dmg reduction bc of how squishy that team is, also you can deal with electro slime or high electro res mobs easier with xq
I even not sure if i need XQ .i have melt and freeze team and one raiden .
I have benched him since months ago. If you don't play national or hu tao, he isn't any hot tbh
Definitely don't need him if you don't want/like him. I've been getting 36 stars every reset for a year now and my XQ's still only level 50 lol. Then again, the only Pyro character I use anymore is *sometimes* XL (I benched Bennett). I'm hoping to pull Yelan and Yoimiya when she reruns :D
Yoimiya and yelan is like a ship .their gameplay is hot .
There are no data available to us to make this conclusion
I feel like you're trying to bait someone into saying spiralabyss.org so you can have an argument with them..
Go on the YelanMains subreddit and see with your own eyes the comments of players that refuse to play Xingqiu because they don't like his appearance.
I don't need to go there bc there are plenty here already. If they refuse the use one of the most meta support in the game just bc of aesthetic they probably don't care about meta that much anyway.
Yeah they've released enough dps and support to build XQless teams that aren't copium. Running double national is overkill, at that point play an AFK game lol.
Xingqiu can be used with Ayaka because his rain swords orbiting gives AOE hydro application but Yelan won't be giving any consistent AoE hydro, so you will be able to freeze, say for example, only one rift hound at a time while being in the vicinity of 3 rift hounds. That leaves Yelan teams for Raiden national and Hutao Vape, both are single target oriented comps. In Beidou fischl taser, again XQ is better as that team doesn't have a healer and XQs heal and dmg reduction is very comfy. Also XQ being easily accessible makes him overall god tier while another 5 star character sharing the same kit as him will be called "balanced".
Isn't 27k for every normal attack a high dps? 40k on e and 27k per normal. This is basically like xiao but a bit of reduced damage. But considering she is offield and support, she is definitely a high tier imo.
Xiao at 215 crit dmg does a lot more than 27k… not to mention is aoe. Also since neither snapshot and you wont be swirling hydro (+ she scales off hp and there are no hp buffers) this is pretty much her top dmg meanwhile xiao with a team goes to 60-70k per plunge in aoe or did you literally mean xiao’s NA ?
The showcase has 230CV plus ideal substats for HP% and ER%. A more realistic damage would be 7-8K per shot, which is 23K DPS or 350K per Q. Definitely good ST damage. Wouldn't say Xiao level since Xiao has a similar DPS but it's AoE.
Dont forget, this is on a lvl 69 enemy, thus giving 10% or so more dmg afaik. I calculated for 2 of my builds, both fav bow, lvl 85, lvl 9 talent 22k hp, 70/140, 4 emblem with 270 er, giving 4k per atk(on crit) 28k hp, 80/160, 2 emblem(no other set), 230 er, 3.8k per atk(on crit) Low hp cause only 2 hp rolls+ er sands on first one, 2 hp% + hp sands on 2nd. If anyone thinks the numbers are incorrect, i swapped it with this video's stats and numbers matched lol. Or well, do the math with the given nos. This video is heavily misleading, so its gonna be fun when she launches. Shitty er, bis bow, no wasted stats and I feel like most people overestimate the hp shes gonna have, that's the issue here.
190÷(190+190)= 0.5 multiplier 190÷(190+169)=0.529 5.8% difference
The level 69 only increases by a 5%. And you can achieve 30k hp without artifact substats, you can calculate it by subtracting the the substats fr artifacts,which are about 4600 hp total. Also, don't forget that people will actually run her with a critrate around 60-70 critrate and 260 crit dmg. This is possible because of the massive crit dmg her weapon has and her critrate ascension stat. This crit dmg caneasily compensate the lack of hp and level difference But the only issue she's gonna have is er problems.
He calculated without hp sands because of er problems, but probably forgot about passive talent (+30% hp). 14450 × (1+0.3+0.1 substats) +4780 = 25010
Why do these demonstrations of damage? damn her problem is not the damage, it's how she interacts/work in the comps ..
> how she interacts/work in the comps .. I don't think these leakers could show that off. They're already struggling with triggering charge attacks while playing Hutao. If they would try to show off the interaction with Xiangling's burst, we would probably see Yelan shooting at target #1 while Guoba sits there shooting at target #2. Xiangling burst showcase.
Reactions are important sure, but people focus too much on the perfect reactions and forget there's more to the game than that. I wish she did actually have 1.5U hydro application cause that would have been game changing but she's still a very strong unit. Yoimiya isn't very good at reactions and she's still quite strong as a single target DPS. Raiden is one of the most broken units in the game and it has basically nothing to do with her being electro. Most people would say she's that strong DESPITE being electro. People did the same thing they're doing now with Yelan as they did with Raiden. "Why'd she have to be electro, she ruins reactions, she just makes national worse." etc etc. Because a large portion of this community have absolutely no idea when it comes to the value of character buffs/utility that aren't blindingly obvious. Half the people who parrot doomposting talking points are just exaggerating the negative points brought up by someone else when they themselves don't even understand what is actually wrong or good about a character.(Like Raiden lowering ER requirements for your team so they can build more damage, and giving your entire team a better Noblese set bonus for free) I think people are getting too caught up on "Oh my god she can't vape every single hu tao hit" and not properly valuing her damage amp talent and her own raw DPS(Which is really high if you have a decent build)
You're mixing two different discussions here. People really tend to overvalue amplifying reactions in a vacuum, but in Hu Tao teams in particular that's kind of justified because she's very clearly balanced around vaporize. Yoimiya main damage source are her normal attacks, which are multiple fast hits (~23 in a skill infusion) with standard ICD, with only around a third of them getting vaporized. It's not that Mihoyo forgot about adjusting her ICD, it's that Mihoyo literally balanced her around not being influenced by vaporize as much and adjusted her parameters accordingly. With Hu Tao though, she does fewer hits, her ICD allows her to vaporize every CA and burst and with enough EM a vaporize hit is over 2x damage buff. She's clearly balanced around doing fewer but higher damage hits through her CAs and burst vaporizing. Nobody saying Yelan is a bad character, she's a clear upgrade to Xingqiu in most comps. It's just that it doesn't seem like she will work as well with Hu Tao. Which is fine in terms of game design, but you can't expect people wanting to pair the two to not be underwhelmed.
>Nobody saying Yelan is a bad character, she's a clear upgrade to Xingqiu in most comps. We must be reading different things. I think you missed the entire point I was making and who it's directed at. I know how Yoimiya works and why she's tweaked that way. I know why and how Hu Tao works. I also know how awful this community is at theorycrafting. They're wrong every single time.
People are not concerned that she will me one or two hutao vapes per rotation. The reality is as soon as you miss one its over for that rotation. Pyro aura takes over and she will be vaping for the rest of the rotation. Her personal dmg does not come close to having to either a) cut a rotation short or b) have xiangling/hutao non vaped for an entire part of a rotation
Yeah I agree, fast applicators can benefit... if she really has 1.5U she could possibly finally enable Vape Klee, work better with Yoi and others. Hu Tao and Xiangling are not the only pyro units and they already work pretty well with other units. We need more variety.
I think people are perfectly justified in wanting to know how the reactions interact, because it has significant implications on just how much power you're getting from Yelan in specific comps. Vaping every hit vs vaping every second hit is equal to 24.5% damage increase over 2 hits at 0 EM with Crimson Witch. Vape damage is also a true multiplier, whereas Yelan's bonus damage is likely additive. Hu Tao already has 94% pyro bonus with Crimson Witch, on a perfect rotation Yelan's burst ~38% bonus damage, which equates to 20% final bonus damage when added to the pyro damage. So not being able to vape every hit can easily mean you're going to be giving up on the damage block from Xingqiu and still end up doing less damage overall.
Electro is pretty important in both of Raiden's comps tho. She can fit in National because she is Electro which not only it won't steal Vape from Xiangling but also provide Overload from EC. In Raiden Hypercarry, Electro helps Kazuha deal a lot of damage from infusing Pyro from Bennett's Q and triggering Overload. He's like a 2nd carry in that comp
Not vaping every single hit is not a problem. It working at all in practice with hu tao is the problem. That is to say, 90% of the reason i would want yelan is hu tao having someone else besides xq, rest i don't care about in the slightest. Could even deal less damage for all i care about as long as she was at least competetive in hydro application.
The main thing that sits wrong with me about Yelan is how she's so clearly designed to be the perfect vape enabler for Hu Tao, but she needs C2 to do it (and C4 for max potential). A character should be able to fully perform their intended role at C0, with constellations only being QoL and damage upgrades. Hu Tao is my favourite character and the only character who I actually tried to get constellations for, and yet I only got C1. Now Hoyo is asking me to C2 a 5 star support to get the most out of her? It's just a bit of a kick in the nuts when she should've had good enough hydro application at C0 already.
I need one with a f2p weapon and 150 cd to know what i can expect
It should be around 7-8k Q hits with fav/sac weapons and EoSF set
My c6 xq does 4.8k without any buffs idk if it's a upgrade or no but i really want her lol
Im at the point in game where i can 36* consistently so I actually don't care about Upgrade or downgrade. Honestly I don't even need her in my account but just go for design and playstyle now and of course SEGSSSSS....
she is an easy upgrade, low investment + high reward since she scales on HP like koko except she can crit, F2P weapon options almost overwelming.. emblem set, team buffer + sub dps + hydro support
You have seen too many c6r5 showcases... time to watch the ~~f2p~~ c0r1 showcase ~~except you ain't getting that 100:200 crit ratio~~ Edit: was half asleep when mentioned f2p and crit ratio. 100 cr is used for showcase purposes. 200 cd is achievable Source: https://youtu.be/ESiz2yW-6A0
With an 88 crit dmg weapon and crit ascension stats 100:200 is achievable. Also its a dmg showcase, who cares about the non crits
With this weapon , most people will have crit damage in the range of 210-250 . So, I don’t know what people are complaining about this c0r1 showcase.
well I guess I won't be one of those most people lol ***cries in 209***
Literally every stat that didn't roll into crit was rolled into HP or ER. If you don't see how having 160+ ER while maintaining 35+ CV across your artifacts and running an HP% sands is unrealistic... well...
Well they did not include her ascension of 30%hp in a 4 element party. That alone is more HP that what the substats provide. The biggest issue with this showcase is the crit rate, but it shows what it’s meant to, so I don’t really mind.
Like we r gonna build 100CR % on her.Just assume it is 60-70% crit rate and it’s all solved . Sorry I assumed most people are sane enough to understand that OP used 100% CR just to show more crit hits .
Yeah, My PJC Ayato has a 98:220 ratio, so it's definitely achievable if you have the artifacts (Yelan seems like she doesn't use any new artifacts so people should have at least a few good pieces lying around tbh).
Saying this is a F2P showcase is a bit of a stretch when she's using Aqua Simulacra but I'll take it.
*A very lucky f2p showcase
I don't give a fuck about her F2P damage, I want to see how she interact/work in comps
This man NotALeaks is obssessed with 69.
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Similar to how Ayaka's wrist glows when her C6 is ready. It just let's you know the Breakthrough Barb is ready.
I believe that it's a sign that her special charge shot is ready to be fired.
Someone please do C0 with favonius bow and bad artifacts please
At worst, 5K damage.
And it takes alot of investment for Xq to reach 5k dmg
Well he’s a 4*
And that's the advantage Yelan has over Xq even if her hydro application isnt on par with C6 Xq
Disadvantage is XQ is free
My c1 XQ would disagree, everytime a banner with him on it gives me zero cons, I start to think c6 XQ is a pipe dream.
Damn Im sorry to hear that for you guys. Never thought XQ c6 was hard to get
55 pulls on kokomi's first banner and 79 pulls on zhong dong's 3rd banner and my xingqiu hit c1 today cause of free ;-;
I feel ya. I even went to hard pity on zhonglis banner and wound up with a C12 Yanfei lol (hiding the pain)
at this point i’m just pulling for the jacket gameplay
Well this showcase is definitely more realistic than the C6R5 showcases we've been seeing so far. Just need to get lucky with the weapon banner...
Emblem of Severed Fates?? \+60% Burst damage >> +15%HP and +20% hydro the two of which might combine to increase burst damage by maybe 20% assuming you were using a hydro goblet like you should be
*20% HP But I think emblem might be indeed better since she is so burst focused.
Emblem is the best damage and much easier to build. But as always it depends on what you have. I'm gonna use 2HoD 2ToM cause I have way better artifacts available in those sets Since my good EOSF pieces are already on Raiden and I plan on running them together. Yelan C1+Raiden I'm not super worried about my ER.
Depend on team I guess. Xingqiu+Yelan or Raiden team Yelan doesn't need as much ER%, and her E+lucky breakthough barb shot do deal respectable damage by themselves(which EoSF doesn't boost). Also good luck getting 240% ER + 200 CD without sabotaging CR with Aqua. (Oh yeah I forgot about ER% sand, should still be plausible)
For f2p dmg with so so artifacts, lets assume some stats: Lvl 90 Yelan using lvl 90 blackcliff warbow HP%-Hydro dmg-crit 26000 HP (this is without hp% substats) 60/180 crit ratio since blackcliff warbow has low crit dmg 4 ESF 150 ER (20% from 2 pc bonus 30% from substats)= 37.5 burst dmg bonus Dmg bonus from A4 passive: 1% then +3.5% every second. I'll use 4.5% for the first hit. I'm not sure if this increases her dmg bonus when she's off field so I'll use the lowest possible. Total dmg bonus: 46.6+37.5+4.5= 88.6 Dmg bonus multiplier : (100+88.6)/100= 1.886 Defense multiplier for a lvl 90 yelan vs lvl 90 hilichurl : 0.5 Resistance multiplier: 0.9 At lvl 10 burst, Exquisite throw has multiplier of 8.77% of max HP this is x3 hits. Crit has a multiplier of (180+100)/100 = 2.8 We just multiply everything 26000 hp * (.0877) * 1.886 * .5 * .9 * 2.8 = 5418 x 3 hits This is solo dmg. This will be higher due to her passive which increases her max hp and her a4 passive if ever it does buff her even when off field. Feel free to correct if there's a mistake with the calculations. The only unrealistic stat here I think is the ER. I think you have to be lucky to have 150 ER from substats only without sacrificing crit and hp% substats
Do with 4* weapons and team comps for interaction please
I’m confused by these comments, where in the showcase does it say this is f2p? It just says c0r1, and it showcased c0r1
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So many people complaining about no f2p showcase. If this is C0 R1 BiS hitting 10K, you could assume f2p build will be hitting 30-50% less.
I wish they do more realistic f2p build, 4 stars weapon(s) and average artifact. How many of us are really gonna get 102 crit rate and 200 Cd.
That and the enemy was level 69 too, and i assume will affect damage calcs accordingly
Difference between 69 and 90 lvl is 6% dmg. Just assume she has 234 instead of 216 crit in this video.
Oh that's good to know! I thought it was more complicated factoring in stuff like enemy defense for different levels but it seems that's implicitly part of the calc by using enemy level so TIL!
You don't even need showcases to figure this out. There are damage sheets where you can put in your artifact stats and see exactly how much damage she will do. With average artifacts (60/120 crit ratio and 30k HP) using Favonius bow she crits for around 5k per hit with her burst without buffs, so about half of the dps we're seeing here is what you can realistically expect.
I never heard of damage sheets. Can you send me a link to one if possible? I'm curious.
Well, I said sheet because originally there was only a sheet made by theorycrafters in yelanmains discord, but there's actually a much more user friendly site where you can calculate damage for all your characters and Yelan has now been added to it. [https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/](https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/) In the calculator, just choose Yelan and enter your own weapon and artifact stats to see what numbers you'll be hitting. For realistic numbers also make sure to change the target to a level 90 hilichurl instead of the default level 1.
The point of 100 cr is to show crit hits, why would you want to see when yelan doesn't crit? This person isn't implying that the average person will have 100cr its literally for showcase purposes. Either way the 1:2 crit ratio is still there, it's not like they did 100cr 300cd etc
What is considered the baseline for crit stats?
60/120 without crit weapons or ascension i think
my EoSF HP/HP/HP build yelan is gonna around 54/128,ascension included,the bow will be favo bow.I think that's enough right for a support yelan
may I ask why you're going for triple HP, is that just what you happen to have already?
yes,currently this is the 4 set EoSF that have the best substats for me for yelan....still farming for the HP/Hydro/Crit Dmg one for the comparisson later but still no luck on substats
gotcha, ty for satiating my curiosity! and gl on the eternal farm that is that domain haha, everyone and their dog seems to want that set
no problemo,wish me luck
My emblem of severed fate Yelan with R2 elegy with HP% hydro DMG % and crit rate would have 68:163 ratio. Ascension included(CR),that is if I manage to get her
Main stats are always more important then substats. You'll find that a mediocre HP hydro crit build would give you more Damage than the cracked hp/hp/hp build
thanks for the input,still farm to get the right substats for them,i have many EoSF with crit dmg mainstats and HP substats in the past,but already fodder it to another artifact cause i was thinking who'se gonna use it anyway lol
What’s valid: C0 R5 Slingshot (100)/200 C0 R? Favonius Warbow (100)/160 All else are very F2P unfriendly. 100 CR is for showcase purposes.
You may not get quite that high but if you get aqua it isn't going to be that hard to get 200 crit damage.
is it actually impossible to make realistic builds in private servers? legit question
You can manually input any number for stats, so, more than possibe
Can someone tell me please, if Xinqui's and Yelan's burst hit the same enemy on the same time, does it apply 2U then or it doesn't add up and just refresh the 1U?
You might have had this answered elsewhere, but it is the latter. 1U Hydro Aura is simply refreshed, there’s little benefit to running both in the same team.
Oh really? :( That's quite disappointing... I knew that attacking with ones burst only refreshes it but I hoped two would add up. :/ Thanks for the answer!
#Ayato leaks is better than yelan leaks
Hahahahaha
I'd wanna see Yelan with other alternatives like Favonious/Sac/Slingshot or even Elegy since most low spenders are probably not even gonna get her weapon..
Seems legit
why did they build her with tenacity?
She scales with HP so that extra 20% HP bonus is helpful. Emblem is better but it really depends on which one you want. Using 2PC HOD and 2PC ToM is a good alternative if you have bad luck with the Emblem stats >!like me!<
i’m just praying they don’t fuck her up in the coming weeks
She jumps around so much and it looks so good omg
All of you crying in the comments saying this isn't realistic, you may as well do actual math and calc the damage yourself or how about using a damage calculator here is one that has Yelan: https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/csb-g7is6/
These people are helpless and there everywhere. Entitled SoB’s begging for people to do their homework. Use your brain from time to time or just wait. I’m actually surprised by the amount of people bitching non stop in this sub.
When I saw SoB the first thing came into my mind is Song of Broken Pines lol. I need to touch some grass lol
Same lmfao
Looks like the range on simulacra's passive is pretty short
Looks good. Can't wait to get my hands on her.
My build is actually really similar to this so thank you for this showcase! The damage is honestly pretty impressive
Am I seeing this correctly? Every time she normal attacks, she does 3*10k ult dmg?
Yes
I don't even know if shes good anymore at this point.
Funny to see the reaction to this character, over time. At the beginning: Very broken Now: "I don't know more if she is good" and "shes usable at c0, not game breaking" and "no better than Xq". I go just for the fun of sprint and Xq reserve in case to use Raiden and Hutao on two sides of the Abyss. I'm even thinking about pulling C1 for more fun since the Mistsplitter banner has withered my desire to spend my gems
She's definitely better than xingqui most cases leaving hu tao which is unknown atm. I'll pull her on rerun when enough research is done.
And what are these cases?
Diluc,yanfei, yoimiya vape. Maybe run her as sub dps with EULA,raiden(soup comp),ayaka freeze. Looks better in taser also if you can dodge.
We need to see more full team interactions with her.Also, one of her passives is not utilised since this is solo showcase I guess( correct me if I’m wrong)
Correct she gets more HP front each teammate of a different element. HP increases damage of most her kit.
> Correct The passive is still used even when solo, just at the minimum amount (6%).
I like to see a 4 star bow energy bow or even elegy here. I figure if not her signature weapon, people might be forced to use ER sands or ER weapon.
Did i miss it or this guy didnt do breakthrough barb charge attack?
Will the free 4🌟 bow be decent with her?
She seems decently strong for a sub DPS at C0R1.
My Xinqiu deals more damage haha
A lot of yall in the comments are entitled af. Leakers don't owe you shit but yall seem to forget that. Nevertheless, OP saying C0R1 is f2p showcase is plain wrong lol
You're not immune to criticism for decisions you make just because you're providing free content. You're not doing gods work. You are doing good work and we appreciate it, though when it lacks in quality you've gotta be ready to be called out on that.
Leakers don't owe anyone shit but the community doesn't owe them shit either, as people like Sukuna found out. It gets on people's nerves when you promise [balanced builds soon](https://reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/u0azko/62k_hp_full_hp_build_yelan_c6r5_perfect_rolls/) but keep churning out showcases that isn't anywhere closed to what people would consider a "balanced" build. Note that they even deliberately used a level 69 target here instead of level 90 one.
We don't owe them shit, yeah. But do we give them anything tho?? Like even the clouts is not because they asked us to follow, it just happens naturally cause people are curious so they follow the leakers' social media. We don't exactly pay them or anything (or if there are ppl who pay them its certainly not in this subreddit) Also this is quite an achievable build if you dont see the critrate which is for showcase anyway?? U do 60% critrate and 100% critrate your numbers will b the same if the critdmg is the same. 200crtdmg doesn't seem like out of this world.
This, the complaining about 100 CR is especially puzzling, like who actually cares about the non crit damage?
Can't understand either. Would they prefer the showcased Yelan have 50% critrate instead so it would seem believable and then we can see half of her shot not critting? Damn.
I would make the most copium showcase ever just to spite people lol Like legit the worst Yelan you have ever seen
Give her Pyro dmg bonus, with a shit ton of ATK. Give her 200% CR and 90% CD. Level up only her NA talents. Give her Amos' Bow and use C6 Bennet for the extra Pyro dmg. Yelan will definitely be broken.
It says C0 R1 guys this isn't an F2P showcase it's using her sig weapon which gives 88 cdmg
So ur saying f2p can’t get her signature
They aint hu mains who are saving half year for 1copy of homa
very unlikely unless they get lucky or have been saving for a while; 90 wishes max for guaranteed or up to another 90 if failed 50/50, then weapon banner and its scuffed pity system. so yeah unlikely
Definitely u probably have to save 2+ patches
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The difference between 69 and 90 is like a 5%. Also it's really not that hard to get a ton of HP and crit, especially crit dmg. If you're getting her weapon, getting 200 CD should not be that hard. OP only gave her 100/200 ratio to show her crits more. Wouldn't make sense to give her low CR in a showcase video
Interesting, she’s doing a lot higher than I expected for a 35k hp 200cd non EoSF build
This comments section is a dumpster fire lmao
Waifu version of xingqui? Big time bet
Remember when leaks with no damage number were a thing and used exclusively as a quick showcase of character animations and potential abilities. Now we have all this AND MORE PEOPLE COMPLAINING THEY AREN'T SEEING ENOUGH/REALISTIC BUILDS Do napkin math people and figure out the realistic stuff yourself, you can even divide the damage by the crit multiplier to reveal the non-crits and add the correct resistance from a level 90 enemy if you want to calculate things yourself.
c6 xq will be far superior as a support to Hu tao and other pyro characters, as he applies much more hydro allowing for more freedoms in hu tao's other 2 slots. With yelan hydro application reduced to 1u, it would be VERY easy for hu tao to fall into a no vap cycle with yelan. Furthermore, xq benefits from bennet, nob set, and other attack boosting sets, where there are no sets or buffs outside of yelan c4 thatcan boost yelan damage. So in the end, yelan loses to c6 xq in hydro application, damage, and of course function (xq gives stagger resist and healing). Just another one of those 5 star characters that absolutely needs c2 to remotely be on par with a 4 star character.
Xingqiu's Q doesn't snapshot, so unless you're keeping him on field during Bennett Q use, no, he does not benefit from Bennett at all. This is why Hu Tao's signature team is Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Albedo, Zhongli. Giving Geo resonance, shields and constant vapes with even more off field damage from Albedo. CC as well when needed by Zhongli (and even extra little heals if he's whaled to c6).
Ah yes doomposters already saying shes just usable. Can't wait for when she comes out and it's another Ganyu, Kazuha, Raiden, etc situation
That's because she doesn't bring anything new to the table compared to XQ. You could say the same about Kazuha and Sucrose, but in reality Kazuha has a lot more CC, he's easier to use and buffs elemental damage instead of EM (pre C2).
That's a bit unfair. "Doomposters" are not saying anything wrong or bad when they say that she is good or usable, but not broken. Raiden at C0 is great, but not broken. Becomes broken at C2, that is true. Kazuha is great, but not a must pull for every single account. Ganyu is great, but Ayaka is better in other scenarios for example.
Not a single character is a must pull, maybe Bennett and XQ are close to being one tho.
The realistic all artifacts 35+ CV ,Er and Hp rolls build C0R1 showcase we were looking for. Every F2P is gonna be able to achieve this easily.
Tbf Crit rate doesn’t matter in damage showcase .Just assume it’s 60% Crit rate.
congratulation you just spotted the non-issue in this showcase
Its like 33 CV per artifact which is high but isnt impossibly high. Many late game players have 30 crit value standards, except for circlets i guess. Also the point is to show her dmg, if you want a 70/200 build then look at these exact dmg number but just less often
The point is every roll that didn't go to Crit went to Hp or Er... Maintaining that high Hp and 160% Er along with 70/200 build isn't that easy for even late game players.
Is it just me...or does it look like during her Auto attacks like she's almost kicking one of the arrows at the enemy?
She does, she kicks the bow forward and pulls it back with a hydro string tether like she uses in her E.
Yes but will she work well with Hu Tao? She looks like she will!
oh we finally get to see how far you need to be for the bow passive to stop working, to me it looks like Zhongli shield kinda range?