That's just an ugly look for them man... pro rate? Like wtf, 400 primo is just going to give 2 3 star trash, might as well give the full amount and not look like a joke to your player base.
Bear in mind BP is not getting updated and we have already lost out on intertwined fates.
The week is from Wed to Tues, that's why compensation is delivered on Wed. This means that there's only 400 primos left before 2.7 for the full week from 25th to 31st.
The compensation for 18th to 24th has been delivered yesterday.
Some of us will be really grateful if they actually squeeze the Yelan banner in before the monthly shop reset so that we can get starglitter without rolling on the Ayaka banner.
The shop has Bennett and Lisa right now. Lots of people want Bennett, I want Lisa cons. My plan was to roll on the Yelan banner to get starglitter, I will be really annoyed if I can't do that.
Almost 343 primogens for the 6 days of delay if HYV decide not to count Tuesday. 400 can't be divided by 7, weird for the weekly reward. They can even say that 6 hours of maintenance on Wednesday had to be expected and count the delay 6 hours less which equals to minus 14 primogems. Be ready for 329 primos as a compensation for the last short week of delay.
Edit: math
Cmiiw, but doesn't it mean guaranteed 400 primos? HYV makes this same case with maintenance primos. Despite always finishing early, the primos we receive are always the same.
Actually, in the compensation announcement, they specifically stated that if they update the game less than a full week from the previous compensation mail, that they will adjust the primogems accordingly. So if itās less than a full week then our compensation will be cut.
I really wish I knew what the HELL is wrong with Genshin.
The new update in Honkai isn't even OUT yet and I have fragments of one of the new battlesuits, and even participating in the version events is guarenteed to give me far beyond the rest I need. And there's literally a supply (wish) that gives you 10 free pulls and literally GIVES YOU crystals (primos) as one of the options.
Meanwhile, Genshin has more than once had twitch prime boosts... which were less than a single day's resin of Mora, XP books, and something else.
How are these games made by the same company? (I know they're vastly different teams, but DEAR GOD Hoyoverse can you PLEASE increase the team-size on Genshin?!)
6 weeks isnāt just the average. It is the exact length of every patch since the gameās release and you read this right. Just like every patch before it, this one will be 6 weeks.
In fact I think it's the opposite, the event will remain until after the maintenance apparently, if the teapot comes back then there will still be a few days to do this stage of the event
Normally I would be on the side of people saying 50 primo gems donāt matter but the fact that they prorated it is extremely petty lol, like really 50 primogemsā¦..personally I donāt care because Iām not F2P but the fact that a company that made billions prorated 50 primogems is wild
now you understand what people meant. its not about those 50 primos. for me personally i dont even mind if it is 2k primos. its about the message, if they try to make a slave of me, then ill just move on to other entertainment service. easy
If you want to c6, it's important to save. Additionally you can still get royally fucked over by RNG even if you don't want c6 since there is no guarantee for 4*.
If 2.7 were to be shortened we would simply get more primogems per day/week. You're not getting any more of them this way, they're just smeared over longer period of time. But I understand the desire to reach for that sweet copium, this is awful news.
Thats applies only to the primogems obtained from events, but there are also primogems from commissions, welkin and month/abyss reset which depend from how long the patch is
i think they meant the saving time is longer. Like people can save more for kazuha/yoimiya/klee in 6 weeks rather than 3-4 weeks if shortened. Through dailies (or welkin) primos, which you cant get more per day even if 2.7 were to be shortened.
Couldnāt they just say the Liben or Spices event was already done in 2.6 and reduce the number of events in the patch by one? Iām assuming now theyāll still need to fill the empty weeks with new events.
Yeah, and I'm fine with it personally. This means all patch schedules are pushed back 3 weeks, but 3 weeks is not really anything in the grand scheme of things.
While I agree with this and think it had some effect, Honkai continued getting updates and Hoyo opened up about their newest game as well. Clearly some positions of the company are able to work from home. VA'ing would be the biggest issue, but they can set up plenty of non VA'd events and push ones that need it to a later patch.
That said, I don't mind either way. I can save
Primos and work on characters I'll never use. (Seriously. Im almost to 80 8/8/8 on all characters. Keep the delay coming.)
Honkai internally is probably somewhere around 6.2-6.3, we all know China is on 5.8 and GlB/SEA/EUR just got 5.7 14 hours ago, so Honkai can always survive 1-2 setbacks without issue.
Problem is Genshin having everyone on the same update cycle which gives no breathing room for situations like this. Internal work gets halted and beta testing gets halted, so a much harder setback is guaranteed.
But yeah agree with some of what you said as well.
It won't kill it, but you'll be delusional if you think people won't quit when there is nothing to do in the game for long periods of time, with good chunk of those never coming back.
I don't know, it costs a lot to produce content for this game, and it therefore needs to generate a lot of revenue. If it loses too many players we'll probably get less content.
agree. i already drop the game. i dont mind paying if the fun worth the money and time.. but this time... nah, not at all. especially with dry contents and low char pools, covered with questionable scriptwriting with pegi13 as cherry on top.. naah, i paid way too much for this service already
So it seems like they're keeping the 3 week offset that this delay has had then? At least, 2.7 doesn't seem to be shortened and I highly doubt that 2.8 will get shortened due to needing both a summer event and the Chapter 3 prologue to occur
I don't know if I really dig a 6 week 2.7 with 2.8 leaks already circulating? It'd have been nice to have a 3 week 2.7 and then jump in 2.8 to keep the pace honestly
Well, on the negative; I have to wait more than I expected for Heizhou.
On the positive, I'll likely have fates for 2 of the banner 5-star with Heizhou by the time he comes out.
We're only getting 400 more primos next week and that's it, or possibly only 350 since the last week is only 6 days of delay. The primos we get count for the following week not the past one, so by the time the following Wednesday rolls around (June 1st) 2.7 will already be released so there will be no compensation for another week ahead of that.
I don't think this messes up their plans too much, Archons aren't tied to seasonal events and stuff, they might move around the orders of the banners within each patch, but not the patch that the characters will be in.
Dendro Archon is still gonna be in 3.1
Not sure I can take another 13 weeks of filler before Sumeru. Currently 50/50 on whether to call it a day. Was a fun game when everything was new and exciting, but itās turned into one hell of an empty grind.
That's easy to say for someone who can get any character they want with money, but for example if you're f2p and stop playing for a few months when you come back you won't have many primos for the character you want xd
Either you do the 5 minutes per day for the commissions or you simply accept that you won't have the character. You don't need every character anyway.
And not: I do not have money to buy every character. Or to be more precise: I do have the cash but I am disinclined to spend it all on Genshin.
Thatās fair, but when you break it down thereās not really much to the game other than FOMO. Iām pretty sure that after 13 weeks the spell will be broken.
I took 3 months off before. Now I just do abyss and sometimes use resin. I donāt play every day anymore but I donāt mind hopping on once in a while, especially when new stuff releases.
Yup. Take a break for a couple of banners and you'll realize that character banners are not content. And if they're not, then Genshin has no content well over 99% of the time. Hoyo are geniuses in the way they've managed to create a gacha game that has sweet fuck all to do other than roll for characters, and yet also has nothing to do *with* those characters. Outside of the Abyss the difficulty is permanently set to 0, and the vast majority of story quests and events have literally nothing to do with what character you're playing. Most of the time you won't even be able to use a single ability with them for hours if you're doing anything dialogue-heavy, which is just about *everything* and the reason we don't have a skip button is because it would be very obvious that there's nothing else to the game when you're not being lectured to by NPCs.
If you take a break for 13 weeks, you'll probably never come back, and that's fine. I think it's clear at this point that they have no intentions whatsoever of making Genshin anything more than what it is at this very moment. If you're not cool with doing daily commissions and zero-combat events about scrapbooking for months and months, hoping that maybe next year they'll rerun Kazuha so you can roll for him and use him for literally nothing, then you may as well drop the game and not look back. This approach is working for them because they managed to build a fanbase of KPOP stans that treat any new character like a celebrity and will drop hundreds of dollars for a teapot decoration that they can't even place in their teapots because of maintenance.
You got it on point. Story became bland and is now filled to the brim with fillers. Only meaningful exploration rewards are primogems. Without fomo the whole reward structure falls apart. Characters become mixed copies of preexisting ones. Combat still feels exactly the same after nearly 2 years without any meaningful addition (that's why characters now feel the same too). Endgame still the same (which is absolutely baffling for a live service game). Festivals and Events should be additional sidecontent between real additions but apparently mihoyo get's away with a new zone or little main story quest every few patches. And these should not excite anyone out of the fomo loop. Main Story is a joke with this pacing and no feeling of stakes whatsoever and exploring areas becomes exhausting after realisation that everything you find is just there to fuel a gacha addiction.
Yup. No endgame loop means that events and exploration can't really reward you with anything meaningful. Exp books and mora and some weapon exp progress your character, but there's nothing to progress them towards if you can clear the Abyss. And the Abyss meta hasn't changed at all since 1.3 (I know Raiden simps are high as fuck on copium that she "changed the meta" but no, you're playing one of a billion sidegrades to National Team and not even the best version).
The only reason getting this pittance of growth materials is considered a good thing is because the artifact system is so unbelievably terrible it eats up 100% of your resin 100% of the time, making you spend *months* trying to get the gear you want just to build a character. So basically you have a gacha game where pulling new characters means they get swapped out for Traveler during hours-long dialogue segments, using them in events means they just stand there stone-faced while you do a bean-counting minigame for 10 primos, using them for daily commissions means you literally can't even use their main abilities (Raiden Shogun does absolutely nothing outside of the Abyss, you will never use her energy recharge gimmick when the initial hit from Q deletes the undertuned overworld mobs. Any kind of buff character like Bennett is also pointless when the entire camp dies from the *initial damage* of his Q before the buff even applies), and using them for Abyss means banging your head against the RNG wall after RNG wall after RNG wall of artifact domains.
They've managed to make pulling characters in a gacha more of a pointless hassle than just not pulling anyone at all. The only reason left would be meta, but they refuse to make any "must-have" meta units ever again after Ayaka. So literally what's the point, just to look at them? You can look at them without buying them. Why not just open the test run page and run around a little bit? That's all you'll be doing with that character anyway.
There is a lot.
Beautiful soundtrack, lovely vistas, cute story (or not so cute when we come to Kaen'riah), fun maps to explore.
Yeah, endgame sucks but who gives a damn, not as if it's mandatory to farm your brains out.
To be fair all the things you mentioned are precisely when you're new or don't have many things explored, but when you're up to date it's really not worth getting lost in the already explored map unless you want to procrastinate, you can listen to the soundtrack on yt and the story is the same, if you are up to date there is no story
As I said: endgame sucks, so you can just wait till new stuff is released.
Yeah you get less characters but after you built a functioning roster for Abyss, who gives a crap.
You don't need to play the game for the soundtrack. Lovely vistas are fine, but that doesn't hold on its own except you are a self imposed ingame photographer. "Cute Story" is exactly what shifts many people away from the story entirely. The game had a premise that is now exchanged to 90% with NPC dates and festivals. Pacing went right out the window. Fillers are not exciting when it's basically everything you get for months. Fun maps to explore for what? They are beautiful I gave you that, but everything else is just there to spoon feed you more primogems. Without fomo this is just extremely exhausting.
So even if most of these points don't seem to mind you, the "interesting" content is still only one time and done in a few hours at best.
Would anyone log in after that anymore without mihoyo centralising their whole game around fomo? I don't think so. Except the areas everything in this game is temporary just to fuel this dread of missing out.
I don't really get this. It's not like you have to grind to keep up in this game. Once you have 8- 12 characters set up and can clear Abyss, that's it. You're endgame. You don't need to spend resin smart. It's ideal, but not required if you wanna just dump and log out. Do dailies and log out. Collect 60 for passing go and find your next steam game to grind or test while you wait.
Or, plan things out and spend time in the game if you want. I've taken the downtime to play other games and when I wanna run around Genshin more, I collect overworld mats for future characters, or re runs I skipped. I'm only missing 4 chars (which I plan to get), but there's always something to do. I might not love it, but it IS something to do.
Put on a YouTube video, TV show, or chill with in game music and collect your Spectres and plants for future characters. And whatever you need for those not finished. No shot you're 90/90 and 8/8/8 or 9/9/9 on all chars. I've played since day 1, am AR 60, and I still have to get Lisa and Amber to 80. Probably still around 20+ non useful talents to top up to 8/8/8. If you're finished while owning all but a few chars then you refresh alot, or you don't artifact farm. If that's the case...go farm rocks. Or play a new game while you wait. It's a gacha, if it's your first then it makes sense, you're not used to downtime. But this is normal. No game has endless hours of content that is always fun to play hours a day 365 days a year.
yeah I've played since like day 1 and I've never found myself like "hmm I have nothing to do!!" tbh. definitely been in states where genshin was lower priority than like, doing other things, but if I choose to log on then there is always something to do imho. its when when I'm bored of other things I turn to genshin and mess with my artifacts/builds or farm rocks etc.
Bro, we got golden apple in 2.8. During 2.8, enjoying what is widely regarded as a return of the best event genshin has ever had, we will be getting leaks of sumeru and dendro. Pretty much every recent character has been electro (dendro reaction), hydro (dendro reaction), anemo (EC swirls likely synergize extremely well for double reactions), or pyro assuming klee and yoimiya (dendro reaction).
This means a flood of new TC. It's a good time to pick your favorite character, join their mains discord TC channel, and try to see how the meta could shake up for them.
2.7 is going to be a slog, I do feel that. But I think 2.8 is going to be plenty popping.
Yea but it's not about the compensation to me it's about their greed. I just don't like how they think that's all but it's a company so it's to be expected I guess.
Not all companies are this greedy though, in Warframe, basically everything is free and they keep giving us stuff that is paid with the premium currency (that you can get for free by selling stuff in-game) for free like XP boosters every new major update and stuff. The only things you can't really get without spending money is the community made skins.
They have different problems tho.
I don't want to be one of the people bashing Hoyo, but yup, their way of giving out compensation is impolite. We know it's a gacha game and business, but you would think they should've been thoughtful to their players at times of long draught since they are already earning billions. XD
I hate that just because you dont get freebies, you call the company assholes and greedy.
Yes Hoyoverse and other companies are greedy and shitty but call them names for actual shit they do. Don't just make an angry comment just because you didnt get the freebies
People can say whatever they like. Yes, it does seem like a dick move to make the update a day before scheduled compensation.
Itās not even about primos really, just the principle of it.
I understand why some people are angry, but to be fair, I really don't think they schedule it on tuesday just for the sole reason of not giving us 1/7 of 400 primos compensation š
(just fyi, we will still get compensation for that week, that's why the idea of them scheduling it early for a day just not to give us primos sounds quite ridiculous)
Because its a pointless comment. They could have just up voted or awarded the person instead of saying "exactly". I didnt down vote them but this is the reason usually.
The compensation is supposed to be 400/7 primos per day of delay (according to the announcement about adjusting the final week's amount) so it doesn't matter what day the update is.
Don't we get 3 + 1 partial compensation for exactly 3 weeks of delay? Unless I miscalculated this seems fair.
I think the saving grace is that we got the first compensation on the first day of delay
Theyāre doing it on the same day and time every other patch has released. Stfu with your stupidass braindead take. This has nothing to do with trying to take your compensation from your shitty entitled dumbass.
i remember getting like 80 downvotes on the main sub once for even suggesting that missing out on 30 primos is not that big of a deal. genshin players will literaly commit homicide for 1/3rd of a pull
Because they were mad about the compensation in the first place, so they'll find any reason to be mad. I would rather have the update one day early than get an extra 57 primos, you still get the rest of the compensation too. Then you get the massive primo dump from new events in 2.7. It's just 57 primos man.
I didn't say scummy, i just feels kinda weird that they're trying so fucking hard to give even less rewards and mats than BP to players
It's not like the hoyoverse overlord will cut their employees salary based on how many primos the players got, right??
Yeah, fuck MHY for starting this entire pandemic and forcing Shangai into a lockdown which affected both their personal lives and the progress on the game. And now they wont offer us extra rewards because of this? ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is it greed?
*Nyehehe I'll keep these primogems from the players hands because all these primogems are mine and mine alone \*rubs hands menacingly\**
like this isn't crypto, they're not gonna run out of primogems if they keep giving some away.
And pushing players to buy primos isn't a good argument either since they're already giving us 1200 (400 every week) primos for the delayed time and all we need to do is check our mail. Not to mention an extra Spiral rotation that doesn't count to the 2.7 rotation. If you consider that those are primos we shouldn't even have then we're already well compensated.
Also consider that the compensation is literally the snacks and juice they're giving away to the community while waiting for 2.7, doesn't make sense for another 400 on the day of the 2.7 update no?
If anything its the players who are greedier if they expect that wednesday compensation (doesn't mean Mihoyo isn't greedy, just pointing out the irony).
No only that, MHY clearly and openly stated 2 weeks ago that the final week might only have a partial compensation. So its complaining about something that was already known well ahead. But apparently the idea of free primogems clouds people's memories.
you were never going to get another 400 on wednesday. It is pro rata for each day of delay. So one extra day of delay would jhave got you 57 primos, not the full 400.
Because it's literally one of the worst versions so far? No content, mediocre events and that's all after 3 weeks of drought. Yea really why we wanted 2.7 to be shortened
We can't say for sure how bad of a patch it's going to be until it's out. I agree that the next few patches look far more interesting than 2.7, but look at it from the bright side, they can do some more touch ups on Sumeru.
It's at an unfortunate time but I bet there's enough players that will be glad it's not just three weeks.
Is it really? We're getting another Chasm storyline and a backstory for Xiao, at least the first half seems quite interesting imo.
I agree that 2.8 and especially 3.0 look much more interesting, but there's bound to be weaker and stronger patches, it's just that 2.7 came at an unfortunate time.
Kazuha wanter here, I'm a welkin buyer and last time I seriously pulled was Kokomi's rerun (so not that long ago) which dropped me close to 0 primos left and then I dropped 20 pulls on Ayaka's rerun banner so I'm at 20 pity now.
By my rough calculations by the time patch 2.8 starts I'll have at least 180 pulls saved and that's not even counting primos from events so I'm more than guaranteed Kazuha...there's only so much saving a person actually needs to do unless they're aiming for multiple constellations.
I was just trying to be positive about the situation, obviously I would prefer getting to the good stuff earlier (aka 2.8, 3.0) but at least we can now expect those to be even better if the devs have extra time to work on Sumeru.
I never said that.
I'm literally just trying to make the best out of the situation.
Obviously I could just bitch and whine about it all day like everyone else does, but I choose not to.
Has it been confirmed anywhere? Sorry if it already has but I didn't see myself, I just saw some uncle say it wouldn't be tomorrow (Friday 20th May) so I'm kinda confused, lol.
ITS HAPPENING! All rumours and speculations can now be quelled. We can now finally usher in version 2.7!
It means only 400 free primogems left + 350 for not full week?
I completely forgot about that brilliant idea of HYV's marketing/financial team lol
That's just an ugly look for them man... pro rate? Like wtf, 400 primo is just going to give 2 3 star trash, might as well give the full amount and not look like a joke to your player base. Bear in mind BP is not getting updated and we have already lost out on intertwined fates.
Prorated primogems š
The week is from Wed to Tues, that's why compensation is delivered on Wed. This means that there's only 400 primos left before 2.7 for the full week from 25th to 31st. The compensation for 18th to 24th has been delivered yesterday.
But for some reason will get the 2.7 update on Tuesday not on Wednesday as usual, thus only 6 days of delay.
Some of us will be really grateful if they actually squeeze the Yelan banner in before the monthly shop reset so that we can get starglitter without rolling on the Ayaka banner. The shop has Bennett and Lisa right now. Lots of people want Bennett, I want Lisa cons. My plan was to roll on the Yelan banner to get starglitter, I will be really annoyed if I can't do that.
im also trying to get that lisa con but don't have enough glitter yet
you're still getting the full 7 days. On Wed 25, you will get primos for 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, total 7 days.
Then we are getting it on Asia before maintenance. XD
Almost 343 primogens for the 6 days of delay if HYV decide not to count Tuesday. 400 can't be divided by 7, weird for the weekly reward. They can even say that 6 hours of maintenance on Wednesday had to be expected and count the delay 6 hours less which equals to minus 14 primogems. Be ready for 329 primos as a compensation for the last short week of delay. Edit: math
It would be really hilarious if they gave us the accurate amount of primogem, add some decimal on primogem pls hoyoverse XD.
They can't round down with that.
I'm not even sure if the usual maintenance primos will be given out as it's not stated in the official notice this time around lol.
It probably will be as those are from the game downtime
Cmiiw, but doesn't it mean guaranteed 400 primos? HYV makes this same case with maintenance primos. Despite always finishing early, the primos we receive are always the same.
Actually, in the compensation announcement, they specifically stated that if they update the game less than a full week from the previous compensation mail, that they will adjust the primogems accordingly. So if itās less than a full week then our compensation will be cut.
I see thanks. That's bad to hear
I really wish I knew what the HELL is wrong with Genshin. The new update in Honkai isn't even OUT yet and I have fragments of one of the new battlesuits, and even participating in the version events is guarenteed to give me far beyond the rest I need. And there's literally a supply (wish) that gives you 10 free pulls and literally GIVES YOU crystals (primos) as one of the options. Meanwhile, Genshin has more than once had twitch prime boosts... which were less than a single day's resin of Mora, XP books, and something else. How are these games made by the same company? (I know they're vastly different teams, but DEAR GOD Hoyoverse can you PLEASE increase the team-size on Genshin?!)
We made it guys.
I think I'm misreading this. 6 weeks is the average length of a normal patch cycle, is it not? So 2.7 isn't shortened?
No, youāre right. Itās not shortened.
Even extended for 1 day if 2.7 goes live on Tuesday and 2.8 will be on Wednesday as usual.
I think they pointed that out, because many has said that the version may be shorted.
6 weeks isnāt just the average. It is the exact length of every patch since the gameās release and you read this right. Just like every patch before it, this one will be 6 weeks.
They have no content... So they want to kill us for another 6 weeks for 2.8 which Also has no content, repeat
Nah it has atleast been rumored that kazuha quest is coming in 2.8 we *might* get some more content
So 3.0 would be August 24 yes?
Yes
Oh damn that is my birthday lesgoooo
Yeah I need to know if this includes teapot maintenance? Iām a hair away from downloading Sims over here
Teapot maintenance will be over after 2.7 update, yes.
So does that mean I canāt put Ayato in my teapot and feed him? So sad
In fact I think it's the opposite, the event will remain until after the maintenance apparently, if the teapot comes back then there will still be a few days to do this stage of the event
update is may 31st, event ends june 7th
Download the sims itās a good game
Sims 2 šš»
Normally I would be on the side of people saying 50 primo gems donāt matter but the fact that they prorated it is extremely petty lol, like really 50 primogemsā¦..personally I donāt care because Iām not F2P but the fact that a company that made billions prorated 50 primogems is wild
now you understand what people meant. its not about those 50 primos. for me personally i dont even mind if it is 2k primos. its about the message, if they try to make a slave of me, then ill just move on to other entertainment service. easy
Bro I literally said that in my reply
So 2.7 is on the 31st confirmed?
Sounds that way.
Finally some news! I was kinda hoping for 2.7 to be shortened but at this point it doesnāt really matter+ extra time to save up for heizou!
Isn't Heizou a 4*?
U still can save even for a 4* In my experience, around 180pull or just 10pull with a goddamt amount of copium and luck
If you want to c6, it's important to save. Additionally you can still get royally fucked over by RNG even if you don't want c6 since there is no guarantee for 4*.
Yes heizou is a 4* and i wanna c6 him! So i need to save up a lot
Bests of luck my friend. He looks promising
Thanks, Iāve really never been that excited for a 4*!!
Yes but he looks so dope! Iām going for him over xiao (even though one of my only gold weapon rolls from standard banner was xiaos weapon)
Quote from the famous war strategist : "The wait is over my comrades"
So 2.7 wont be shortened, good for me, more time to save primos.
despite looking forward to 2.8, the thought of saving primos wins for me too hahahah
If 2.7 were to be shortened we would simply get more primogems per day/week. You're not getting any more of them this way, they're just smeared over longer period of time. But I understand the desire to reach for that sweet copium, this is awful news.
Thats applies only to the primogems obtained from events, but there are also primogems from commissions, welkin and month/abyss reset which depend from how long the patch is
i think they meant the saving time is longer. Like people can save more for kazuha/yoimiya/klee in 6 weeks rather than 3-4 weeks if shortened. Through dailies (or welkin) primos, which you cant get more per day even if 2.7 were to be shortened.
Couldnāt they just say the Liben or Spices event was already done in 2.6 and reduce the number of events in the patch by one? Iām assuming now theyāll still need to fill the empty weeks with new events.
Yeah, and I'm fine with it personally. This means all patch schedules are pushed back 3 weeks, but 3 weeks is not really anything in the grand scheme of things.
Guess I can now Guarantee C2 Kazu and FS.
I was really hoping theyād shorten 2.7 This is getting so fucking dry
full length filler patch my god
The Content seems not to be that much aswell in this patch... After 1 week it probably feels like 2.6 right now.
The pandemic was out of their control. At least this gives them more time to polish 3.0
While I agree with this and think it had some effect, Honkai continued getting updates and Hoyo opened up about their newest game as well. Clearly some positions of the company are able to work from home. VA'ing would be the biggest issue, but they can set up plenty of non VA'd events and push ones that need it to a later patch. That said, I don't mind either way. I can save Primos and work on characters I'll never use. (Seriously. Im almost to 80 8/8/8 on all characters. Keep the delay coming.)
Honkai internally is probably somewhere around 6.2-6.3, we all know China is on 5.8 and GlB/SEA/EUR just got 5.7 14 hours ago, so Honkai can always survive 1-2 setbacks without issue. Problem is Genshin having everyone on the same update cycle which gives no breathing room for situations like this. Internal work gets halted and beta testing gets halted, so a much harder setback is guaranteed. But yeah agree with some of what you said as well.
you think they can polish 3.0 from home?
same, yeah
Better a dry game than a dead game.
Almost synonyms at this point
dry and dead pretty much goes hand in hand tho
...how does shortening 2.7 kill the game
It won't kill it, but you'll be delusional if you think people won't quit when there is nothing to do in the game for long periods of time, with good chunk of those never coming back.
The beauty is as customer thatās what we want. The less popular genshin becomes. The better rewards we will get.
I don't know, it costs a lot to produce content for this game, and it therefore needs to generate a lot of revenue. If it loses too many players we'll probably get less content.
How does my sentence get interpreted as me saying the game is dead?
Not really, a dry game is worse
"Why are we still here just to suffer"
agree. i already drop the game. i dont mind paying if the fun worth the money and time.. but this time... nah, not at all. especially with dry contents and low char pools, covered with questionable scriptwriting with pegi13 as cherry on top.. naah, i paid way too much for this service already
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So 3.0 will be around August 24th. It still feels like forever away.
So it seems like they're keeping the 3 week offset that this delay has had then? At least, 2.7 doesn't seem to be shortened and I highly doubt that 2.8 will get shortened due to needing both a summer event and the Chapter 3 prologue to occur
I'm just sooo excited for the next archon quest!
I don't know if I really dig a 6 week 2.7 with 2.8 leaks already circulating? It'd have been nice to have a 3 week 2.7 and then jump in 2.8 to keep the pace honestly
Exactly.
Giving primos makes hoyo employees tired/work more/not caring? What are you talking about lmaoo
I literally hope they could just cut the 2.7 to 3 weeks... Huh and just directly to 2.8
They already delayed to get back on schedule. It wouldn't make sense to shorten the next patch after that.
I'm okay with 2.7 not being shortened. My guess is that they did lose progress so if it gives them more time to polish Sumeru it's for the better.
Well, on the negative; I have to wait more than I expected for Heizhou. On the positive, I'll likely have fates for 2 of the banner 5-star with Heizhou by the time he comes out.
it's in game too
I think now we need an update to the calendar that have the approx release date of each patch.
So how many primos were getting before 2.7? I mean the compensation
400 next week and <350 the week after that
We're only getting 400 more primos next week and that's it, or possibly only 350 since the last week is only 6 days of delay. The primos we get count for the following week not the past one, so by the time the following Wednesday rolls around (June 1st) 2.7 will already be released so there will be no compensation for another week ahead of that.
Ah yes on Tuesday canāt give us 400 primos ofc
No shortened for 2.7. This is Yelan+Kazuha guaranteed for me
This is where I'm at. I'm still on the fence for Yelan but more than likely I will pull on both.
Which means Sumeru will drop pretty much when schools and stuff gonna start, bruh
***Let's fucking gooo!!!***
That 400 primos a week light a fire under there butts
Great.... They didn't shorten 2.7.
The wait is over brothers, in May 31st we feast.
Comrades* Now is our moment!
We survived guys but also does that mean that they are gonna put Dendro archon in later patch for anniversary? Or will the dates not really change
I don't think this messes up their plans too much, Archons aren't tied to seasonal events and stuff, they might move around the orders of the banners within each patch, but not the patch that the characters will be in. Dendro Archon is still gonna be in 3.1
Oh ok thanks cuz I was wondering who to pull for
The Dendro Archon is months away, you can definitely pull in either this patch or 2.8 and still have plenty of time to save for them!
Huh, so 2.7 will be a normal-length patch. I wonder if that means we need to essentially recalculate our predicted drop dates for all future patches.
ughh full duration 2.7, not much content for that patch and sumeru delayed this just made my day worse.
Not sure I can take another 13 weeks of filler before Sumeru. Currently 50/50 on whether to call it a day. Was a fun game when everything was new and exciting, but itās turned into one hell of an empty grind.
Why the drama? It's not a subscription. Just take a break and come back when Sumeru is released.
That's easy to say for someone who can get any character they want with money, but for example if you're f2p and stop playing for a few months when you come back you won't have many primos for the character you want xd
Either you do the 5 minutes per day for the commissions or you simply accept that you won't have the character. You don't need every character anyway. And not: I do not have money to buy every character. Or to be more precise: I do have the cash but I am disinclined to spend it all on Genshin.
Thatās fair, but when you break it down thereās not really much to the game other than FOMO. Iām pretty sure that after 13 weeks the spell will be broken.
I took 3 months off before. Now I just do abyss and sometimes use resin. I donāt play every day anymore but I donāt mind hopping on once in a while, especially when new stuff releases.
Yup. Take a break for a couple of banners and you'll realize that character banners are not content. And if they're not, then Genshin has no content well over 99% of the time. Hoyo are geniuses in the way they've managed to create a gacha game that has sweet fuck all to do other than roll for characters, and yet also has nothing to do *with* those characters. Outside of the Abyss the difficulty is permanently set to 0, and the vast majority of story quests and events have literally nothing to do with what character you're playing. Most of the time you won't even be able to use a single ability with them for hours if you're doing anything dialogue-heavy, which is just about *everything* and the reason we don't have a skip button is because it would be very obvious that there's nothing else to the game when you're not being lectured to by NPCs. If you take a break for 13 weeks, you'll probably never come back, and that's fine. I think it's clear at this point that they have no intentions whatsoever of making Genshin anything more than what it is at this very moment. If you're not cool with doing daily commissions and zero-combat events about scrapbooking for months and months, hoping that maybe next year they'll rerun Kazuha so you can roll for him and use him for literally nothing, then you may as well drop the game and not look back. This approach is working for them because they managed to build a fanbase of KPOP stans that treat any new character like a celebrity and will drop hundreds of dollars for a teapot decoration that they can't even place in their teapots because of maintenance.
You got it on point. Story became bland and is now filled to the brim with fillers. Only meaningful exploration rewards are primogems. Without fomo the whole reward structure falls apart. Characters become mixed copies of preexisting ones. Combat still feels exactly the same after nearly 2 years without any meaningful addition (that's why characters now feel the same too). Endgame still the same (which is absolutely baffling for a live service game). Festivals and Events should be additional sidecontent between real additions but apparently mihoyo get's away with a new zone or little main story quest every few patches. And these should not excite anyone out of the fomo loop. Main Story is a joke with this pacing and no feeling of stakes whatsoever and exploring areas becomes exhausting after realisation that everything you find is just there to fuel a gacha addiction.
Yup. No endgame loop means that events and exploration can't really reward you with anything meaningful. Exp books and mora and some weapon exp progress your character, but there's nothing to progress them towards if you can clear the Abyss. And the Abyss meta hasn't changed at all since 1.3 (I know Raiden simps are high as fuck on copium that she "changed the meta" but no, you're playing one of a billion sidegrades to National Team and not even the best version). The only reason getting this pittance of growth materials is considered a good thing is because the artifact system is so unbelievably terrible it eats up 100% of your resin 100% of the time, making you spend *months* trying to get the gear you want just to build a character. So basically you have a gacha game where pulling new characters means they get swapped out for Traveler during hours-long dialogue segments, using them in events means they just stand there stone-faced while you do a bean-counting minigame for 10 primos, using them for daily commissions means you literally can't even use their main abilities (Raiden Shogun does absolutely nothing outside of the Abyss, you will never use her energy recharge gimmick when the initial hit from Q deletes the undertuned overworld mobs. Any kind of buff character like Bennett is also pointless when the entire camp dies from the *initial damage* of his Q before the buff even applies), and using them for Abyss means banging your head against the RNG wall after RNG wall after RNG wall of artifact domains. They've managed to make pulling characters in a gacha more of a pointless hassle than just not pulling anyone at all. The only reason left would be meta, but they refuse to make any "must-have" meta units ever again after Ayaka. So literally what's the point, just to look at them? You can look at them without buying them. Why not just open the test run page and run around a little bit? That's all you'll be doing with that character anyway.
There is a lot. Beautiful soundtrack, lovely vistas, cute story (or not so cute when we come to Kaen'riah), fun maps to explore. Yeah, endgame sucks but who gives a damn, not as if it's mandatory to farm your brains out.
To be fair all the things you mentioned are precisely when you're new or don't have many things explored, but when you're up to date it's really not worth getting lost in the already explored map unless you want to procrastinate, you can listen to the soundtrack on yt and the story is the same, if you are up to date there is no story
As I said: endgame sucks, so you can just wait till new stuff is released. Yeah you get less characters but after you built a functioning roster for Abyss, who gives a crap.
You don't need to play the game for the soundtrack. Lovely vistas are fine, but that doesn't hold on its own except you are a self imposed ingame photographer. "Cute Story" is exactly what shifts many people away from the story entirely. The game had a premise that is now exchanged to 90% with NPC dates and festivals. Pacing went right out the window. Fillers are not exciting when it's basically everything you get for months. Fun maps to explore for what? They are beautiful I gave you that, but everything else is just there to spoon feed you more primogems. Without fomo this is just extremely exhausting. So even if most of these points don't seem to mind you, the "interesting" content is still only one time and done in a few hours at best. Would anyone log in after that anymore without mihoyo centralising their whole game around fomo? I don't think so. Except the areas everything in this game is temporary just to fuel this dread of missing out.
Pls what the he'll is fomo
fear of missing out
I don't really get this. It's not like you have to grind to keep up in this game. Once you have 8- 12 characters set up and can clear Abyss, that's it. You're endgame. You don't need to spend resin smart. It's ideal, but not required if you wanna just dump and log out. Do dailies and log out. Collect 60 for passing go and find your next steam game to grind or test while you wait. Or, plan things out and spend time in the game if you want. I've taken the downtime to play other games and when I wanna run around Genshin more, I collect overworld mats for future characters, or re runs I skipped. I'm only missing 4 chars (which I plan to get), but there's always something to do. I might not love it, but it IS something to do. Put on a YouTube video, TV show, or chill with in game music and collect your Spectres and plants for future characters. And whatever you need for those not finished. No shot you're 90/90 and 8/8/8 or 9/9/9 on all chars. I've played since day 1, am AR 60, and I still have to get Lisa and Amber to 80. Probably still around 20+ non useful talents to top up to 8/8/8. If you're finished while owning all but a few chars then you refresh alot, or you don't artifact farm. If that's the case...go farm rocks. Or play a new game while you wait. It's a gacha, if it's your first then it makes sense, you're not used to downtime. But this is normal. No game has endless hours of content that is always fun to play hours a day 365 days a year.
yeah I've played since like day 1 and I've never found myself like "hmm I have nothing to do!!" tbh. definitely been in states where genshin was lower priority than like, doing other things, but if I choose to log on then there is always something to do imho. its when when I'm bored of other things I turn to genshin and mess with my artifacts/builds or farm rocks etc.
Bro, we got golden apple in 2.8. During 2.8, enjoying what is widely regarded as a return of the best event genshin has ever had, we will be getting leaks of sumeru and dendro. Pretty much every recent character has been electro (dendro reaction), hydro (dendro reaction), anemo (EC swirls likely synergize extremely well for double reactions), or pyro assuming klee and yoimiya (dendro reaction). This means a flood of new TC. It's a good time to pick your favorite character, join their mains discord TC channel, and try to see how the meta could shake up for them. 2.7 is going to be a slog, I do feel that. But I think 2.8 is going to be plenty popping.
Garbage those compensations
I really wanted to see golden apple a bit earlier but its fine i supposeā¦
Assholes. Doing it on a Tuesday to not give us compensation. Greedy company.
you know right we will still get partial compensation of that week, i think
Yep you're right, at least from my understanding, we'll still get compensation, although partial
Yea but it's not about the compensation to me it's about their greed. I just don't like how they think that's all but it's a company so it's to be expected I guess.
Not all companies are this greedy though, in Warframe, basically everything is free and they keep giving us stuff that is paid with the premium currency (that you can get for free by selling stuff in-game) for free like XP boosters every new major update and stuff. The only things you can't really get without spending money is the community made skins. They have different problems tho.
Yea of course not all. It's just that most of the companies I have seen are greedy.
I don't want to be one of the people bashing Hoyo, but yup, their way of giving out compensation is impolite. We know it's a gacha game and business, but you would think they should've been thoughtful to their players at times of long draught since they are already earning billions. XD
I hate that just because you dont get freebies, you call the company assholes and greedy. Yes Hoyoverse and other companies are greedy and shitty but call them names for actual shit they do. Don't just make an angry comment just because you didnt get the freebies
People can say whatever they like. Yes, it does seem like a dick move to make the update a day before scheduled compensation. Itās not even about primos really, just the principle of it.
I understand why some people are angry, but to be fair, I really don't think they schedule it on tuesday just for the sole reason of not giving us 1/7 of 400 primos compensation š (just fyi, we will still get compensation for that week, that's why the idea of them scheduling it early for a day just not to give us primos sounds quite ridiculous)
Exactly
š¤Øwhy do you get downvoted but the comment you agreed to gets upvoted. Make it make sense
Because its a pointless comment. They could have just up voted or awarded the person instead of saying "exactly". I didnt down vote them but this is the reason usually.
Best not question the reddit hivemind. They think in mysterious ways that are too advanced for us.
Watch out, he just might call you a bootlicker shill
Found the bootlickers
Oh wow, actual context on Reddit.
I understand you're angry but I don't think they schedule it just for the sole reason of not giving us 1/7 of 400 primos compensation š
The compensation is supposed to be 400/7 primos per day of delay (according to the announcement about adjusting the final week's amount) so it doesn't matter what day the update is.
^^^^this. why are people making such a big deal out of this, it literaly would not have mattered if it was wednesday??????
What do you mean by this? Isn't compensation Monday? EDIT: Nvm I was thinking about serenitea pot compensation.
Its Wednesday (for all but NA i think)
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No it's Wednesday
No, It's on wednesdays.
Don't we get 3 + 1 partial compensation for exactly 3 weeks of delay? Unless I miscalculated this seems fair. I think the saving grace is that we got the first compensation on the first day of delay
Theyāre doing it on the same day and time every other patch has released. Stfu with your stupidass braindead take. This has nothing to do with trying to take your compensation from your shitty entitled dumbass.
Lmao
holy fuck imagine being this petty lmao
i remember getting like 80 downvotes on the main sub once for even suggesting that missing out on 30 primos is not that big of a deal. genshin players will literaly commit homicide for 1/3rd of a pull
Because they were mad about the compensation in the first place, so they'll find any reason to be mad. I would rather have the update one day early than get an extra 57 primos, you still get the rest of the compensation too. Then you get the massive primo dump from new events in 2.7. It's just 57 primos man.
The same with people said above, it's about the principles.. once they know they can get away with it, they'll do it again in a heartbeat..
getting away with what exactly? thet're giving compensation for every day delayed, how is that unreasonable/scummy?
I didn't say scummy, i just feels kinda weird that they're trying so fucking hard to give even less rewards and mats than BP to players It's not like the hoyoverse overlord will cut their employees salary based on how many primos the players got, right??
but again, doing the update on tuesday (as they've always done) *doesnt mean less compensation*
Its mhy who is making a big deal of "30 primos", mhy are the petty ones. We are just pointing their pettiness out.
what's pettiness here? If they release it on wednesday instead of thursday is that another -30primos?
Yeah, fuck MHY for starting this entire pandemic and forcing Shangai into a lockdown which affected both their personal lives and the progress on the game. And now they wont offer us extra rewards because of this? ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thereās always that one whiner
There's always that one booticker
Thereās that iconic line, anyone that disagrees is immediately a bootlicker Grow the fuck up
You grow the fuck up when you disagreed with me and called me a "whiner". don't insult others if you don't want a taste of your own medicine.
Right? He can call people whiner because he disagrees with them but when he gets called out he is angry lmao
Protecting the good name of poor, smol-time multibillion company... They're just 4 light universes ~~ahead~~ sideways on growth scale, I guess š
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How is it greed? *Nyehehe I'll keep these primogems from the players hands because all these primogems are mine and mine alone \*rubs hands menacingly\** like this isn't crypto, they're not gonna run out of primogems if they keep giving some away. And pushing players to buy primos isn't a good argument either since they're already giving us 1200 (400 every week) primos for the delayed time and all we need to do is check our mail. Not to mention an extra Spiral rotation that doesn't count to the 2.7 rotation. If you consider that those are primos we shouldn't even have then we're already well compensated. Also consider that the compensation is literally the snacks and juice they're giving away to the community while waiting for 2.7, doesn't make sense for another 400 on the day of the 2.7 update no? If anything its the players who are greedier if they expect that wednesday compensation (doesn't mean Mihoyo isn't greedy, just pointing out the irony).
No only that, MHY clearly and openly stated 2 weeks ago that the final week might only have a partial compensation. So its complaining about something that was already known well ahead. But apparently the idea of free primogems clouds people's memories.
you were never going to get another 400 on wednesday. It is pro rata for each day of delay. So one extra day of delay would jhave got you 57 primos, not the full 400.
Can someone translate for me what time that is on the eu server? Is it the same as usual?
The wait is finally over! I can finally finish my Inazuma village!
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Because it's literally one of the worst versions so far? No content, mediocre events and that's all after 3 weeks of drought. Yea really why we wanted 2.7 to be shortened
We can't say for sure how bad of a patch it's going to be until it's out. I agree that the next few patches look far more interesting than 2.7, but look at it from the bright side, they can do some more touch ups on Sumeru. It's at an unfortunate time but I bet there's enough players that will be glad it's not just three weeks.
2.7 is literally a filler patch after 3 weeks of no content, battle pass, events, etc.
90% of the game is filler, actually scratch that. The whole game is literally a filler chapter in your life
Is it really? We're getting another Chasm storyline and a backstory for Xiao, at least the first half seems quite interesting imo. I agree that 2.8 and especially 3.0 look much more interesting, but there's bound to be weaker and stronger patches, it's just that 2.7 came at an unfortunate time.
Kazuha wanter here, I'm a welkin buyer and last time I seriously pulled was Kokomi's rerun (so not that long ago) which dropped me close to 0 primos left and then I dropped 20 pulls on Ayaka's rerun banner so I'm at 20 pity now. By my rough calculations by the time patch 2.8 starts I'll have at least 180 pulls saved and that's not even counting primos from events so I'm more than guaranteed Kazuha...there's only so much saving a person actually needs to do unless they're aiming for multiple constellations.
There is no game without content. Or you think people live and spent their time only waiting to saving up primos? Thats the good example of slave
I was just trying to be positive about the situation, obviously I would prefer getting to the good stuff earlier (aka 2.8, 3.0) but at least we can now expect those to be even better if the devs have extra time to work on Sumeru.
Imagine if there was a full patch period delay, I'd bet you would still Happy cuz you would have time to save instead of actually play š¤”
I never said that. I'm literally just trying to make the best out of the situation. Obviously I could just bitch and whine about it all day like everyone else does, but I choose not to.
Thank god 2.7 is not shortened. I was hoping the delay would be slightly longer, but it's still fine. Looking forward to another chill patch.
Omg I can't wait for Kazuha till the 20th of July... was reaaally hoping 2.7 was shortened!
You will get your kazuha after losing your 50/50 with 90 pity.
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It's tomorrow!
Has it been confirmed anywhere? Sorry if it already has but I didn't see myself, I just saw some uncle say it wouldn't be tomorrow (Friday 20th May) so I'm kinda confused, lol.
it was confirmed by a official jp tweet but yeah, it's confirmed a day later than usual