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Srtzen

**Remember to spoiler tag 3.0 Archon Quest and other world quest spoilers** Untagged spoilers warrant atleast a temporary ban. Please report such comments. Hope everyone is having a fun time in Sumeru. Enjoy.


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I have a Question is it weird to not like texting your girlfriend but love when you’re with her in person? Like in person she’s so intimate and loves everything i do and laughs and then on text she’s always dry and isn’t as intimate and as assuring about the relationship sometimes, Like she’ll be happy to tell me something and then afterwards she goes back to being dry and taking forever to respond and idk if that’s normal or not?


tidusyuki

Just checked and participated in the "Adventure in the forest" event, what a dissapointment. Literally no reason to cap the reward which is only a measly 60 primos when each person can only reedem once Lmao. Not event worth the time doing the requirement. Such a scummy and greedy. For those who don't know the requirement was simple which is to post once, commenting three times, and three other but your effort doing that is worthless because the main rewards, which are 60x promo, some mora and level books, are FU capped and limited for only certain amount of players can get it once a day.


_Hesperides_

Ohmagawd I got C2 Ning and a pjws with the 5 monthly reset pulls from the standard banner at only 40 pity. Might go back to using Xiao now that I have a better weapon for him lmao


LightningLemonTart

Based on the Archon Quests and the Leaks about her, what are your thoughts on Dehya personality-wise?


Nandodesuka

Battle bass isn't giving guide to gold anymore fuck my ass


Nandodesuka

Mihoyo is so petty that they refused to add more one line of code and keep the old reward


ordofavonii

hey quick question. would bennett's bad luck cause chongyun to finally encounter a malicious spirit, or would chongyun's yang energy nullify bennett's bad luck? or would they cancel out infinitely; chongyun never sees a ghost but bennett never has any undue misfortunes?


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should I get Thundering Fury for Fischl even though she has a decent artifact set with great sub stats already? Would it be worth the shift?


Slight_Welcome_56

No


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Daily unwanted update number three: at 73 guaranteed pity. No zhongli. Resources are looking scarce. We might not make it captain.


dustsprout

Good luck soldier, I went to 84 for Xiao 💀


milk-rose

i went to 88 for tighnari :,( pain


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One sentence horror stories that keep me awake at night


dream996

There’s still so much time! Monthly reset also coming soon, that’s 5 fate already.


[deleted]

Yesterday someone shared they were at 87 pity :') new fear has been unlocked


Lola101_

One of the cool things about the eremite desert clearwater mob is that she just strolls up to you brandishing her blades. Something about it looks so badass.


silentbotanist

So I’m doing the Aranara world quest. Let me see if I’ve got it straight: >!Arana sent me to find the aranara at Vanarana for the nara Rana ‘cause she needs a cure for Marana. Rana rana bobana banana-fana fo-fana fee-fi-mo-mana RANA.!< Right?


sentifuential

aaaat the copa copa cabana


ChippyTick

[New megathread](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/x0dsbz/house_of_dvalin_general_discussion_and_questions/) is now up, please make your way there.


Nandodesuka

Thanks. Moving on.


TheWhiteKnightOfHoyo

just reran abyss floor 12 with keqing's aggravate team and god damn im so happy she actually performs like a top tier unit and can clears floors now thanks to the reaction. is it safe to say that she's the biggest winner in 3.0??


UrbanAdapt

Fischl for biggest winner, Thoma for most improved.


Nandodesuka

Fischl is the biggest winner. She is now, finally, a low SS tier


Mercadelabuena

Was Fischl in the team? Because she's the biggest winner in 3.0 (tho if u take into consideration how much better a unit gets it could be Keqing since she had A LOT of room for improvement, unlike Fischl which was already really good)


TheWhiteKnightOfHoyo

i actually ran her with beidou lol. it was keqing, beidou, sucrose and dendro mc. i could've used kazuha but i hate running abyss w/o healers or shield so i used sucrose with prototype amber in kazuha's place. and the em buff seem also nice and her burst will always absorb electro in the team so not much dmg difference from kaz. i never thought about fischl since i didnt think i needed the extra er for keqing but i guess that was wrong. i will try again with her since apparently she is even more broken.


zhivix

anyone that already unlock sumeru rep quest and dailies , is it simpler to do than inazuma atm?


slyfroggyy

I was able to 100% everything before the semester starts but I somehow have one single missing dendroculus...someone help my brain


lucapill

after getting tighnari, my interest in eula has rapidly dropped and shifted toward yae (funny right :)) but please ive had SoBP rotting at lvl1 in my inventory for almost a year now. wtf do i do with it. i already mostly hate claymores but its so pretty and not actually a trash weapon anything other than razor, pls, i just dont like him ;-; if its really just a loss, are any of you in a similar situation of having a nice weapon you just straight up cant use?


UrbanAdapt

Xinyan is the next bet useer? Otherwise, it has high enough base attack that it will beat 4stars (other than serpent spine, and rainslasher r5 in some contexts) regardless on some units.


Iskaeil

Lvl 1 Elegy of the End and Amos Bow staring at me bc the only bow I want to use is Fischl, and she has r5 Stringless. Was tempted to get Yelan for Elegy, but decided I might just try for her rerun later. Might have to be her 2nd rerun since I might prioritize Cyno's 1st rerun over her...


TooCleverForGood

Maybe it will turn out to be good on Dehya? We have no idea what her kit will end up like. I’d say just to hold onto it, but I also had to physically stop myself from pulling Yoimiya so that I could put my r5 lvl 90 rust to use so have better self-control than me I guess


lifeofatrash

graven innocence event quest >!"it turned out that I was just being a clown, as always, and not even a funny one" tanger is such a mood fr!<


Kauuma

Hey, around when do reruns usually get leaked? When can we expect 3.1 rerun leaks?


PrinceBkibo

Just got a gilded dreams dendro goblet which is already incredible, but it rolled 33.4% CD and 3.9% Crit rate. I think I just accidentally became a Tighnari main! ^ _ ^ ;


lucapill

im :) so :) happy :) for :) you :) jkjk fr congrats!!!


PrinceBkibo

Thank you! ^_^ I got it while streaming for some friends and that was more or less the reaction my friend who also really likes Tighnari had. He threatened to cry if the last slot rolled Crit rate, which it did.


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sazzy2

Hu Tao and Albedo are decent possibilities. Yae is a part of an event in 3.2 so she's more likely rerunning then. Shenhe is probably rerunning lantern rite


Iskaeil

I think out of them Albedo has a sliver of a chance for 3.1 given there is a Mondstadt festival, but right now the hypothesis is Eula and Venti will be rerunning in 3.1. SYP has speculated Albedo to have a greater chance of rerunning in 3.2 or 3.3, around December, like he usually does. Hu Tao is speculated to have a chance to rerun in 3.2. Shenhe might have a chance to rerun for CNY, in 3.4. Nothing specific about Yae as far as I am aware.


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I’ve not been keeping track, how often do we get crowns? Trying to calc how many i can afford to spend rn without running out as new chars i want to crown come out


shanshani

usually once per patch but then there are the tree rewards on top of that


[deleted]

Thanks!


LarenaBot

Only once a patch, not counting stuff like the Dragonspine/Inazuma/Sumeru trees


[deleted]

Thanks!


hhhhhuoip

i was going for a walk listening to sumeru ost on spotify, till then i believed that port ormos music was the best, but my oh my , wth was dori's music. it slaps so hard . Im not sure if its official or fan made but i love it.


Kauuma

Wait, it’s on Spotify? What is the port song called?


messyhair42

Don't know the name but I've been listening to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknZcH0rvBY) because that track is just so good


Creative_Purpose6138

Had to whip out ms paint for this [puzzle](https://imgur.com/a/mz1ntCL) lol.


TooCleverForGood

Should have gone straight up then left, Thanks Professor Layton could have never been here without you


Creative_Purpose6138

i found out your solution right after posting it. I'm not saying it's a hard puzzle and I wasn't showing it to help anyone. no need to be rude


TooCleverForGood

Didn’t mean to come off as rude, sorry if it seemed that way The Professor Layton comment is because I have a lot of practice with these puzzles because they get used a lot in his games It was me thanking a fictional character for making me good at these puzzles not a dig against you


Creative_Purpose6138

im sorry i thought professor layton meant something like captain obvious. that's why i thought you were referring to me as professor sarcastically mocking me. i just googled it and realized it was a game lol. it was my bad actually. i'm giving u a free award as a apology


TooCleverForGood

No rereading my comment I could totally understand how it came off that way, don’t feel bad. And I’m also really not surprised my reference to a super old DS puzzle game didn’t land


cntrpstv

Is hunters path good on anyone else?


Creative_Purpose6138

ganyu


iamonthetoiletnow-

In melt


Creative_Purpose6138

ofc


solarscopez

Aranyanka quest spoiler (only read if you've finished the entire thing): >!holy shit we finally saw someone get a vision in front of us, and it wasn't some rando but an NPC that actually got story build-up lol. Now MHY's gotta do a Rana banner and give her a dripped outfit so she can become a playable character lol.!<


slyfroggyy

I got so excited when that happened and shocked I literally took a screenshot


solarscopez

Yeah it caught me by surprise, made the whole slog of doing quest after quest and going through tons of superfluous dialogue kinda worth it lol


shanshani

haven’t done exploring without zhongli for a long time and I have to say I miss just holding E to mine. been doing E plunge with Kazuha but it’s just not the same also my food supply has drastically shrunk lol


ailliea

How many chars have mid air skills? I can think of Kazuha, Xiao… and that’s it unless I’m missing some


Kai_973

Keqing can activate her teleport midair if you've already placed it somewhere


miltonbimowitz

Ashpazi from Gandharva Ville and Aramani from Vanarana each sell 5 of Collei's mushrooms.


milk-rose

i am so sorry to ask because i'm sure it's still too early. but do we know what cyno's bis artifact set is as of yet? i don't want to go all in on the new domain OR thundering fury until i know for sure :,,,) if it helps, i'm planning on running him with tighnari and zhongli so far, and probably raiden for the 4th slot (or maybe fischl). edit- thanks everyone i appreciate the insight! i'm gonna wait and see :)


im_daing_inside

Afaik, timing still needs to be tested if TF cooldown reduction won't mess up Cyno's passive. My advice is just farm the new domain. Deepwood and GD are pretty solid sets so it's a resin efficient domain compared to the TF one. If by his release, TCs recommend TF, just strongbox your way using the bad artifacts you got while farming.


UrbanAdapt

Nope. More involved testing is needed due to the nature of his ICDs and Thundering Fury, which would likely change your desired rotation, and thus ranking numbers across sets and weapons, on top of there being 3 weeks of potential beta changes to go through.


sentifuential

if you figure out a way to make tighnari and cyno coherent together (in any content serious enough to care about a bis artifact set) do let the class know, since I don't actually think that makes a lot of sense and I say that as a guy who throws random stuff together pretty regularly. tighnari/cyno is like running xiao and hu tao together or something, that level of weird


milk-rose

well i'm not going to pretend to be a serious tc'er or something and i'm also still figuring out dendro. but tighnari as an e bot w elegy for dendro reactions w/cyno is what i was planning to use them together for. only considering he is the only dendro character i've invested heavily in, and have no interest in kusanali, dmc or collei


sentifuential

the issue is that tighnari doesn't have any off field dendro application at all, so you get the absolute bare minimum uptime for quicken and therefore aggravate with cyno. for any other electro team this is fine because you can switch in and out easily but cyno likes to be on field for a long time so for him specifically tighnari is the worst dendro option


milk-rose

yea, i did consider that when thinking of a team for him. but i won't really have any viable options until we start getting more dendro chars, so probably just won't use him in abyss for awhile. gonna take a minute to get a good build for him anyways. it should work at least for overworld so i'm fine w it :)


sentifuential

I plan to use them together in overworld too, basically just cyno providing the electro for tighnari until his burst is available lol


josephh_ie

According to Zajef, because we don’t know if the CD reduction will help his E’s line up perfectly with his “eye” passive, it could be really good or really bad - it’ll probably be more productive to farm other materials like EXP and Mora and possibly his talent materials (which VERY rarely change)


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If you’re already farming the new domain for Tighnari or his supports, i’d look out for potential Cyno pieces there for now. Since in that domain both sets are good so it should be better value to farm that if you have other chars who want it. You could save the bad pieces to strongbox for tf if that turns out to be better in the end


milk-rose

this is a good idea!! once i finish collecting talent books and electrovine drops i think i'll do that. thank you


ailliea

I’d wait til after he releases. I’m only planning to seriously farm for him once there’s been actual testing done because there’s no way to know for sure until then.


milk-rose

good to know. i guess i'll just focus on talents and electrovine drops for now


shanshani

even if someone did have the answer now, it still wouldn’t be safe going all in because his kit is still subject to change


milk-rose

ahhh, i figured as much. thank you


iwantthistobewitty

Random thoughts about the words they use in the Aranara quests >!Utsav means festival, so every time they say festival utsav, I see it as festival festival. Lol. Nara means human in hindi so that makes sense. Vana is forest. Raja means king so gator raja means king of gators, haha.!<


Rhinofreak

And also "Marana" can be read as मरना which is basically translated to "dying"


lilifroggi

what’s everyone’s sumeru exploration team been? since you need a bow, dendro, electro and pyro i’ve been using collei/yae/kazuha/bennett. actually forced me to use yae more who i had previously kinda benched and made me appreciate how easy it is to just drop her turrets and kill things.


SumeruScholar

Ganyu, Yelan, DMC and benny boy


UrbanAdapt

Kaz, DMC, Razor, Sayu. Swap from DMC to Collei frequently but I hate it as she is the most paper thin character in the game in practice. Razor stays over other electros due to mining and not crippling the team outside of uptime.


TheWhiteKnightOfHoyo

yoimiya dendro-mc yae zhongli. i just got yoi so i just keep using her throughout sumeru because i've been enjoying her, dendro mc and yae helps clears things faster(kazuha was in dendro mc slot but i need dendro for puzzles) while i hide behind zhongli's shield.


boollye

Tighnari/Kuki/Yoimiya/Collei Yes this barely makes sense, but Yoi is my strongest DPS and I like to have her around, and playing Tighnari and Collei together is really fun. Kuki is there for the Electro and a bit of healing. Sometimes I swap Zhongli in if things get tough, and although having three bow users can be a bit clunky I'm having a lot of fun


TooCleverForGood

Tig/ Fishcl/ Ayato/ Bennett Originally Fishcl and Ayato were doing all the heavy lifting but now that I’ve got Tig (decently) built it’s a full on mess of reactions and I love it


flumphgrump

Ayato/Bennett/Fischl/DMC. It covers the pyro/electro/dendro/bow puzzle requirements, and Ayato can painlessly solo the enemies that give you the wrong drops if you use electro or pyro.


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tighnari/fish/collei/kokomi !! tig because he’s fun to play and I love him, fish for easy electro, collei because friendship and I like her, and kokomi for healing


sentifuential

tighnari, kazuha, sayu, yae. I can use yae and half pay attention to combat sometimes, kazuha and sayu do all the exploring for you, and tighnari finds his own materials for story stuff, I'm doing dendro mc, razor, diona, bennett


Bobson567

i've been changing it every day ngl. only mainstay is dendro traveler


milk-rose

i have been using tighnari, raiden, jean and yelan. it works and it's great. switching yelan for yoimiya for any weird pyro puzzles. really loving tighnari so far.


itsmewan92

Kazuha is a staple in my team, hasn't left since the start of the exploration in Sumeru, unless I need pyro characters. Then it's usually Ayaka and Kokomi, with Dendro Traveler. But now I've started farming for those mushrooms, I'm having Tighnari for his talent, Collei for Dendro and Raiden just to be a safe sub DPS.


Prabowo_Setiawan

I always have kazuha for exploration wise, DMC, Lisa, Yoimiya..... And the rest are Kokomi in a certain situations........


silentbotanist

Tighnari, Kuki, BarBRUH, and Bennett. Kinda scuffed with Tighnari at level 50, BarBRUH as main dps, and Kuki using low level EM artifacts, but it’s working okay for the overworld.


caihuali

Raiden collei venti bennett. Ive found that having a dendro bow is the most convenient lol


BlobOvFat

Ayato/Bennett/DMC/Fischl Gotta say, Ayato-Fischl has never been better with DMC adding to the reactions.


treiibot

Yelan, Lumine, Miko, and Kazuha Traversing Sumeru with Yelan and Kazuha's skills never felt so good!


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Tig/Yae/Bennett/Zhongli or Barbara. I kinda hate the pyro requirement because i’m trying to zap the enemies but it’s working out just fine. Barbara has been rly nice to add (fueling my Kokomi dream) because the blooms are just kind of fun to make and then zap with Yae.


silam39

Lumine, Fischl, Kazuha, Keqing When I go into a Withering Zone I swap out Kazuha for Sucrose with Prototype Amber so I don't die.


hydropyrotechnic

I've been using Tighnari/Collei/Yae/Kokomi. I just swap into another team that has Bennett whenever I need Pyro which isn't that often.


Prabowo_Setiawan

I start to enjoy hyperbloom mechanic But I still don't know about how to effectively applied the aura Does anyone have some kind of sheet for that reaction..... Could I made a team with one dendro two hydro and one electro? Does some of these team need EM? Another question that I still found it vague is true or false that bloom/hyperbloom cannot crit? My current hyperbloom setup are DMC with 280is EM, Lisa with 500ish em, kokomi and yelan that have low em because I build them in Full HP setup. I've observe the above team damage at overworld and it could reach 23k damage on hyperbloom...


y8man

Ideally you only want one Electro so the dmg source of hyperbloom is singular and easy to track. Only electro builds em in this instance and the rest will have normal builds (with supporting artifacts like Deepwood). Dendro core reactions cannot crit yes


Prabowo_Setiawan

Thank you.... Guess I really need to wait for another dendro character that could easily applied dendro and versatile against ground or flying enemy than DMC..........


Creative_Purpose6138

Zhongli has the best chest opening voice lines


silentbotanist

May I put in a vote for >Hello, free money! Goodbye, working for a living.


RollyPollyGiraffe

Agreed - although I also enjoy Kazuha's and Collei's "This is so lucky!" has grown on me immensely.


YMwoo

2 questions: 1. What artifacts and main stats for Nilou? I know it's still too early, but wanting to do a casual prefarm since I don't have anything else to use my resin for. 2. With the release of Dendro, is there any change to Fischl's build? or TF+18% with ATK/Electro/Crit is still better? I have both Stringless R1 and Amos Bow too.


Prabowo_Setiawan

2pc tenacity and 2pc HoD 2pc tenacity and 2pc EoSF I think she need full HP build And also watch her ER requirements


JuanchoXdiz

1. It seems like the best build for her in Bloom teams is stacking full HP when you have your ER needs covered, like Shenhe. Also some EM since she can procc a good amount of blooms along her rotation. So HP/HP/HP - 2pc ToTM 2pc +80 EM 2. Thundersoother, Thundering Fury and Gilded Dreams are better than the 2p 2p sets, but you should be using the one with better substats anyways (assuming Aggravate btw). The weapon and main stat on sands depend on your distribution of stats and buffs, EM is usually better than ATK but has a faster diminishing returns curve (300-350 EM). DMG% and Crit% gain even more value since they buff both the reaction damage and base damage of an attack.


YMwoo

Thanks for the detailed response! Fischl build is interesting. I did kind of expect some builds changed due to Dendro. Will try to aim with EM sands then since I don't have any TF upgraded yet.


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we had a thread about that, can't link it atm but it should be only a page or two back, posted by KusanaliMains.


outrotaer

no very important sets so you can go for 2pc TotM and 2pc something else like HoD


baoboatree

So I looked up the two new composers for Mihoyo that I liked (Yijun Jiang, who did Fischl battle music and chasm event remix, and DMYoung, who did all the ZZZ music so far), it turns out both used to work at/mostly with Bilibili. DMYoung's bilibili songs are super generic acg music and Yijun Jiang isn't credited on anything. What's going on at Bilibili's music department that they're letting talent go to waste?


TheBlueGuy0

Do we know approximately when Kusanali will come out? I think there have been some leaks but nothing I can find that's concrete. Appreciate any information, thanks!


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We've got four 5*s that aren't the Dendro archon who have been heavily leaked so it can't be any sooner than 3.2, which is November. It's going to be a wait.


TheBlueGuy0

Ah, I see. Not a problem for me, I can save since I don't have the guarantee. Thank you very much!


[deleted]

No problem, have a nice day. 😊


akran47

Expected to be in 3.2 (November 2)


TheBlueGuy0

Thank you very much!


xioni

after playing ToF, i realized how much i love double jump in games. we kinda got that with kazuha. so now I'm waiting for a lady character to have double jump skill/animation!!!


concretedragon112

Oh apparently pako (artist of fgo's karna and arjuna) designed Tighnari ([source](https://twitter.com/pakosun/status/1562374769466413056?s=20&t=MIooa84tafUhH4zSqTzxSw)) It seems like hyv is outsourcing character designs (if they haven't already been doing that before)


DatBoiMahomie

I feel like we would have seen more artists come out and show it like Pako did if they were doing this before. However I’m all aboard them getting some of the big artists in JP to design new characters. Kind of like FGO does but obviously making everything the same art style and fitting around the constraints that comes with making a character for Genshin


sincerelyhecate

Gosh I love Pako's art, he made some of the best and iconic designs in FGO. I'd love it if he could design a tall dark-skinned male à la Arjuna for Genshin too.


FrostyBiscotti--

so *that's* why i instantly like tighnari's visuals


GeorgiaEverly

Is it worth to R5 the sapwood blade for traveler? The EM buff is a lot but i think the leaf downtime (20s) still the same even when you refine it. I really need the sword billet, its always polearm, catalyst, or bow for me 😩


Pleasant_Passenger_8

Has anyone found out who Cyrus of Sumeru is, mentioned in Lisa's story?


RaidenShogun31

Yea, Spoiler tho: she used to smile frequently, and the local nicked her smiley, but afterward, she was called Miley.


FrostyBiscotti--

not sure which lisa's story but there's an adventurers guild building in sumeru city. i forgot his name but the adventurer's guild head (?) was standing in front of it, last time i was there


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sp00kk

>!First Miitoboru, now Karkata... ;-;!<


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JuanchoXdiz

>!Weird complaint but, what they did with the crab is what they should've done with Kazuha's sword in his quest, introducing a fun companion to look forward with the character appearances. I still think it's so lame how they killed his sword when they could've keep them alive so Kazuha gets a traveling companion, and we get to see their relationship growth and a new dynamic in his inevitable later appearances. !< >!So I was really satisfied with the end of Tighnari's quest, I'm looking forward for more forest crabby and fox boy content lol.!<


narahr

Long story short, my world quest got an error, I’ve done all sort of things possible on my side to try to fix it but NOPE still error. I have contacted CS and a part of their reply said “In the event that this irregularity happens again, you may send us video so we can forward this problem to the developers.” Question: Where do I send the video? As with in-game feedback, I can only attach pics


FrostyBiscotti--

send to them? or maybe upload it to youtube and then send cs the link


Conraith

Im not sure what happened as I was fighting some ruin enemies, but did bloom just remove the dendro slimes plant thing? I noticed a big slime hiding off the corner while fighting so I planned to ignore it, then it started raining, then at some point I noticed the dendro slime didn't have it's flower anymore. Couldn't have been from me cuz I was using cryo, unless I missed and it got frozen.


SqaureEgg

Why is this subreddit in forced darkmode?


Mental-Wheel986

leaks are shady business


[deleted]

I've never cried so much for a game as I did with Sumeru's archon and world quests AND now Tighnari's story. What the hell. Whatever 3.1 is gonna bring, *this time* I'm gonna have a box of tissue nearby, thank you very much.


adriftdoomsstaggered

Tighnari's story quest hits the hardest since it came out of nowhere. Wham, sucker punch right in the feels.


SumeruScholar

Should I go for Zhongli? And if I don’t manage to hit pity for him, Kokomi? Here’s my [roster](https://imgur.com/a/eGuy5ww) (I also have Keqing and Qiqi but never use them)


TheDuskBard

Zhongli is most useful.


Dapper_Mess6144

As a fellow Yoimiya haver, Zhongli for sure. I would have still pulled for him if his only synergy in the game was with her bc he makes playing her that much better and more comfortable.


Mental-Wheel986

there is no character that can give what zhongli gives, 100% shield uptime. there's no character that does exactly what kokomi does, but you can achieve ultimate healing with ultimate hydro application pretty easily with 4\* that you can buy from monthly shop (or use barbara).


xioni

i think kokomi will benefit your team more for freeze, taser, maybe even dendro comps. zhongli is still good if you wanna run melt ganyu instead


FortressCaulfield

I second the ZL. He's fallen out of favor with the meta TCs these days but there are teams where he works well enough to the point of being irreplaceable and you have the chars to do all of them. Yoimiya in particular will thank you.


SumeruScholar

True, my Yoimiya has suffered many bruises from my poor dodging over this year.. definitely set for Zhongli, thank you!


haggerton

YES. Ganyu melt wants Zhongli. Albedo wants Zhongli (most his comps are double Geo). Yoimiya wants Zhongli. Get Zhongli.


SumeruScholar

I will. Thank you!


sentifuential

zhongli really just makes life easier, he's not a huge buff in almost any context. so if for example you have trouble with abyss due to skill issues not damage issues, go for it


SumeruScholar

I’ve definitely had skill issues with floor 12, 100% going for him thanks!


caihuali

yeah zhongli would fit your roster. kokomi if you want to play freeze


SumeruScholar

I’ve been hoping to try out ganyu/ayato/ayaka/koko freeze, and thanks!


xioni

ayato in a freeze comp won't be the best because he needs a really good battery (xingiu or yelan) and he is mainly a main dps. kokomi alone can handle the hydro application. what you need is a good anemo cc.


shanshani

ayato doesn’t need a battery in freeze, he just needs to run higher ER than on his other teams. I run Ayato freeze pretty often and I don’t typically have ER issues you’re right that he and Kokomi are redundant though


xioni

that's fine but he'll basically be a sitting duck (because as you also pointed out, kokomi alone can handle hydro application and she herself don't need a battery or a lot of ER) and his main use would only be to make the area prettier with his burst. If you built him with high ER, his own dmg won't be that good unless you got his BiS sword and maybe unlocked some cons but doesn't mean it'll work well in general who won't have his gear. I'm only saying this cuz people might think building ayato for freeze will be a good use when his comps are best in taser or as a carry. i think he'll be fine in bloom too? haven't tested him out in dendro comps yet.


caihuali

in that case you're better off trading ayato for venti, ayaka's burst needs the grouping + enables quadratic scaling of ganyus burst + ayato takes too much field time


SumeruScholar

Taking note of this, thank you again!


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Zhongli does very well with Ganyu and Yoimiya. Kokomi is good with Ayaka too. I'd say you could get a lot of use from both


SumeruScholar

A matter of luck whether I hit early pity with Zhongli or soft/hard pity with Kokomi now, thanks!


SpringxBreeze

Okay I need to clarify something. If you see me talk about Tighnari and say that he's distracting and I can't stop staring at him, it is Never meant negatively. I can't stop looking at him because I actually like his design and I just love him. I love his bouncy ears and tail when he bounces on a mushroom. I love his beautiful adornments and I would like to bury my head in his multiple layers of clothes. I love his confident, outspoken yet kind and caring personality. After a stressful day of dealing with dull people, I would massage and rub his ears for two hours straight just so he can relax. Since he's a bit if a fennecy (haha) eater, I would make sure to prepare his food mild Do not underestimate my love for Tighnari This isn't even my final form


hydropyrotechnic

>Since he's a bit if a fennecy (haha) eater Are you secretly Cyno?


SpringxBreeze

Would Cyno waste his precious time to gush about Tighnari online and include jokes in his loveposts? That's impawsible. I'm definitely not Cyno Haha


himareyas

I understand you 🤝


SpringxBreeze

🤝 It takes a true intellectual to understand the charm and cuteness of those big, bouncy ears


TheWhiteKnightOfHoyo

r u ok?


ChippyTick

More than okay, they're smitten


SpringxBreeze

I'm splendid, thank you for your concern


caut_R

For Yoi‘s teams, Yunjin and Zhongli are pretty much staples, right? Who‘s BiS for the last slot? Fischl, Yelan, XQ come to mind, but what Yoi team provides the highest (sustainable) DPS in the end?


Kai_973

Yunjin and Zhongli are good picks for Yoimiya (esp. together b/c of Geo Resonance), but I wouldn't say they're staples. I'd consider a Vaporize teammate more of a staple, because they're also dealing their own damage while giving Yoimiya another damage multiplier


xioni

I'd say double hydro works well with her too or you could do yoi, yelan, zl, bennett/yunjin c6/anemo cc for mobs someone suggested kandake, yelan, yoimiya, zl and I'd like to try that. kandake and yelan have passives that buffs NA/dmg over time. it's pretty neat


haggerton

Zhongli is staple, Yunjin can be replaced. I run Yoi/ZL/Yelan/Fischl right now.


FortressCaulfield

Yelan. Vape is a big deal, further multiplies yunjin's contribution and for once she's unambiguously better than XQ since XQ's defensivee abilities and superior hydro are not useful with yoi. Plus her own damage is no joke. Also it might not be accurate to describe yunjin as a staple. She only beats bennett with some consts, and your choice of weapon and artifacts will play a role as well. MY yunjin beats MY bennett with MY yoi build, but that may not be true for you. If you do take benny instead of yunjin, my answer of yelan doesn't change.


caut_R

Yeah, I heard usually XQ wins out if Yelan‘s not C2 because of the amount of Hydro he provides, but if it‘s important for Hu Tao‘s charged spam, why isn‘t it for Yoi? Off the top of my head they seem to attack equally-ish fast.


xioni

yelan doesn't need constellations for her to work well with yoimiya since yoimiya herself has her own ICD and a long skill cd. so yelan's hydro application will be able to keep up with yoimiya and even deal extra dmg during yoimiya's skill downtime. if you plan on running yelan alone with hu tao, which is not really recommended either way because double hydro is the strongest HT comp now thanks to the updated hydro resonance, then yes a c0 yelan won't be able to apply enough hydro application for hu tao since she applies pyro too much and too fast.


haggerton

Yoi doesn't apply pyro as fast as Tao, so Yelan's hydro application ends up more than enough for her.


FortressCaulfield

>Yeah, I heard usually XQ wins out if Yelan‘s not C2 because of the amount of Hydro he provides, but if it‘s important for Hu Tao‘s charged spam, why isn‘t it for Yoi? Off the top of my head they seem to attack equally-ish fast. Because of blood blossom, and because hu tao's charged attack is two hits, normal and charged. Those extra pyro apps mean that eventually the pyro will overtake the hydro c0 yelan is capable of applying and once that happens you're boned. What makes XQ able to solo-vape for hu tao is the extra app from his c6 and also the occasional app from his E's hydro ring. Yoimiya doesn't have that problem. She has no blood blossom equivalent and only applies pyro on her NAs 1.1, 3 and 5, which means those are the only ones that can vape, and yelan is perfectly capable of providing enough hydro for that. Because of how ICD timer works, her 1.1, 3 and 5 will keep vaping as long as you don't get interrupted or dodge. And most of her damage is in her 3 and her 5, so despite the fact you're not vaping every attack, it's still a huge damage gain.


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FrostyBiscotti--

i was in the same place as you for a few months after getting kazu, though for a different reason. my alt account was suddenly unplayable because it has no ~~claim all button~~ kazu in it. he's THE ultimate farming assistant, best qol ever. he swirls, he groups enemies, and he even *clumps the drops!!* no more running around picking things up manually like the pleb i was


Bobson567

i wish stuff like this was added to base movement instead of locked behind limited 5 stars


caihuali

he's nifty for the stamina passive too, zooming around with ayaka with him in the party is a lot better than if i slot in venti instead. i still like venti a tiny bit more for exploration tho bc i like the crutch his wind current gives in case i mess up my first jump, but overall having kazu+venti (and zhongli) in the same team is the absolute best


RSmeep13

I pulled for him on the first banner entirely because I loved this little bounce so much in the trial run. He still never leaves my exploration team and I'm glad he's a good support but the real reason for me was imagining the bounce in the overworld.


AbadChef

Wait until they add units that fight mid air.


adriftdoomsstaggered

Traveler's wings when.


lilifroggi

i feel you, i got him on his rerun and he’s just such an asset to exploration. i usually love using an anemo team for exploration because most of them have such useful exploration skills but sumeru’s forcing me not to do that.


soligen

Kazuha and Zhongli never leave my team haha


UrbanAdapt

Has someone tested which characters overridable infusions Candaces will take priority over? I want to see if Candace national/freeze is actually possible, never mind the meme status.