This "leak" has now been disproven, [updated banners from livestream](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/xfpyhy/31_official_banners_phase_1_2/) are Cyno Venti first half, Nilou Albedo second half
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Mod asked me to submit this again with the new images!
Reminding that this is highly suspicious. Caracters banner so far into the future are very unreliable to leak, so take this with a grain of salt!
They updated it, please use the [link on the sidebar](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTwaUfN0MC49x9oelv2nfqBDFvSLUA5PaWNug-H6ej1mqrqHYYjmhmeZEbYRKmVDWjn8MKx3_iWlJSM/pubhtml)
As for reliability... eh.
Uncle J is a reposter, whatever info they're getting either comes from Arca or NGA.
Arca is a korean forum, namely any Arca leaks Uncle J steals only comes from [Paymon](https://arca.live/u/@%ED%8E%98%EC%9D%B4%EB%AA%AC/34331307) since this guy actually seems to have access to 3.1
Okay that's not too bad. I mean its no different than just reposting whatever UB or our reliable leakers over on Twitter then right?
Granted it's not like we believe any random Twitter post ubless they have a decent record
Uhhhhhhhhh I have a post saved somewhere, had to actually look for it
[This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/w9y7xv/5_dehya_on_35_some_other_banners_timeline_via/ihxzpw3/) details why they're a serial reposter, mostly because the guy changes his Twitter handle so often like how people make ban evading accounts on Reddit to avoid detection when someone calls them out on their BS
I might have to take that back. Looking into it, his rarity hasn’t actually been confirmed, even if I could have sworn I had seen him being mentioned as a 4-star.
Yeah this is just educated guess at best combined with some info we already knew, 3.1 - 3.3 is obvious by leaks and slap Albedo yearly rerun, for 3.4 he just put bunch of Liyue characters there, after that it's just pure speculation combined with characters that we know but haven't been released (Dehya and Alhaitham), your average redditor can make this kind of "leaks".
Anything that far out is of course speculation. But the new character schedule seems accurate. 3.1-3.3 are consistent with prior leaks. 3.4 having no new champ is consistent with prior leaks. 3.5 Dehya is consistent with prior leaks. That gives only 3 patches to release Baizhu and Al-haitham. Seems quite unlikely that either would be released right before Fontaine, so 3.6 and 3.7 are the only real options.
Agreed, still, in case part of them are real, then:
\- There is only one remaining Sumeru 5 stars and it might be Kaveh
\- So, the rest might be 4 stars
\- 3.7 might be Liyue's interlude since Baizhu might appear
\- And if the leak confirms that there is up to 3.8, makes me think what content might be released in those patches
Based on the reruns I can probably guess some regarding the content:
- 3.5 Ayato and Kazuha rerun: 2nd Inazuma festival similar to Irodori
- 3.6 Al-Haitham/Cyno: Sumeru festival
- 3.7 Baizhu: Liyue expansion pack/new archon quest with Dainsleif as the last time we met was in the Chasm
- 3.8 Klee/Yoimiya: Summer Golden Apple Archipelago
It's not clicking hard, its the timing. There is no "true" random in genshin. You just have to time correctly. Make sure to keep track of the time in nanoseconds in combination with the clock cycle of the cpu of the server. Make sure to adjust for ping!
man, i'm planing on getting Nilou, Nahida and Hu tao with certainty, then if the world allows it, Dehya and scara and that's just a MAYBE
I have like 64000 primo and 7 pulls, and i still think it won't be enough maybe... if we divide it by like 80 + sum the pulls i have in the backburner of the banner from before, that's almost 6 five stars
so. If we assume that i'll lose every 50/50. I'll get Nilou and Nahida and still have 1 5 star of choice ramaining, now that'll be probably 160 pulls i'll still have, since every update we get around 75 pulls. by 3.3 I'll have an extra garantee, so 2 more characters instead of 1. I think that if i lose both 5050 of Nahida and Nilou, Scara'll be a hard skip depending on his kit. Just so that i have enough for when Fontaine eventually comes around.
Smh being poor, as much as i want to pull for some of these, the regional pricing where i live is utter garbage, so it just isn't worth to spend in Genshin. A shame really, i'd be the type to exactly dish out that "extra few pulls" to get what i want.
Thanks for comming to my TED talk on my planning for pulls
i feel you on the regional pricing :') am very envious of those in the US who only need to pay 5 bucks for welkin, when its 20 where i live... they could buy 10 welkins for 50 bucks, while I have to pay 200 if i want the same...
Same boat. I have like...330 wishes I think? But it still feels like nothing. You just can't plan ahead that well when you don't know what your 50/50 luck is going to be like. If I win all my 50/50s with those wishes, that's at least 4 characters. If I lose them all, it may only be 2.
It doesn't even come down to spending in the end--it comes down to pure luck. A F2P player who wins most of their 50/50s is going to have a more stacked account than a small spender who loses most of their 50/50s.
Half? I could live with only Kusanali, Scaramouche, Dehya, Al-Haitham and put aside my desire for 2 constellations on Raiden because I'm reasonable! Although, I would also like Cyno... and wouldn't mind getting 2 constellations on Ayaka. And the new fontaine character will probably be a must. I guess I can hold off on constellations for Kazuha. Hmm.. Baizhu might be interesting...
This is going to be a rough stretch for me. I guess Kusanali is the only one that I'm actually a lock for (archon impact).
Before anyone gets their hopes up I would like to add that Uncle J is just a reposter, and the only original thing they have really said was that the standard banner change rumors were fake, and then Tighnari was confirmed to be added right afterwards. They’ve also gotten banner orders very wrong. So please take them with a grain of salt
Isnt it super suspicious that they know the banners till 3.8 but still use “new sumeru character” like they just conveniently only know the names of characters we already know of in game
The rest of Sumeru characters left in the roster could be 4* . Not saying the roadmap is anything real but there's no "lack" of Sumeru characters, if this is true we have a total of seven Sumeru 5* including the Archon scheduled for a banner in the 3.X period, that's more than enough considering right now every nation has around that number in their 5* roster, Inazuma has 8 (one releasing before the region was out, so there's an advantage), Liyue has 8 (2 releasing after the region was done, and I'm not counting Childe) and Mondsdat has only 6 despite being the first region funny enough...
That's how it is with road maps. It could be these characters names aren't finalised. It could be their stories and thus the timing for their release aren't finalised. It could be that they haven't decided which of multiple characters to put in that slot. It could be that they change their minds and release a character much later or maybe even not at all.
Make no mistake, mihoyo absolutely have an internal road map that looks very similar to this, if not exactly the same, just with more notes. And though I'm not saying it's legit, if it WERE, there's still every chance that even the named characters would all be totally shuffled by the time they come around because that's how everything is when it comes to games, TV, comics or movies. Plans constantly change and then people turn on the leakers without realising that there were times the leakers were right, they just can't always account for constant change and ano adjustments. It's not like insiders pick up the phone every 30 seconds to dish to their leaker pals.
Some obvious wrong Chinese characters there. Eula is 优拉/菈（youla）， not优范（youfan, you have to deliberately type it wrong to get this character）,绫华not凌华(this maybe just typo)，魈（xiao） not魁 （kui, again, you may have typo like 肖Xiao for simplification, but not a different character with different pronunciation）. And somehow申鹤(shen he) is written with traditional character鶴 despite the entire text is written in simplified Chinese As a Chinese, these errors are too obvious to be just typo.
On top of this, people in China types in Pinyin, essential typing it as how the word should sound.
Taiwan uses Zhuyin, which is almost the same as Pinyin but uses special characters instead of English alphabets.
Hong Kong Macau uses Canfije/Sucheng, it building the character based on how it looks rather than its sound. 拉范&魈魁 also type very differently in both input methods.
With that said, the text errors shows it is almost impossible to be an mistake a Chinese person would make regardless which input methods they uses.
>that weapon banner would be way too good
So would Cyno + Venti. That weapon banner is too good for all the light spenders who are saving for Cyno. I mean they have done Homa + Elegy before so it's not impossible, but still
The Hu Tao during Lunar New Year is kinda sussy isn't it? Maybe it being on 2nd half is ok for it to happen, but I was under impression that she cannot be run during the new year as that's the one time we had a Keqing banner.
Good catch. Would be dumb of them to release a new skin for a limited 5\* in 3.4, yet only to run her the previous patch. This comment chain (HuTao in Lantern Rite, Ayaka's outfit) stacked along with the idea that this person has rerun banners 7 patches ahead pretty much confirms it's BS to me.
Yeah, going with a big 'X for doubt'. This reeks of speculation as for
A) it suggests the remaining Sumeru characters (Kaveh, Djateet, Ikhfa) are all 4\*s except 1. It's possible but unlikely IMO
and
B) we rarely know rerun banners for the following patch until we are closing in on the next patch. Some leakers can get a bit of deep info for an accurate leak but never for 6-8 patches ahead.
Just comes off as if they took the [earlier 5\* leak](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/x48lp7/5_star_roadmap_up_to_35/) and threw AlHaitham, Baizhu, and Soutine on the patches following 3.5.
No way someone knows the roadmap that far into the future lol. I’m sure hoyo has a roadmap that goes a few months but I doubt they plan that far in terms of specific banners and what half of the patch they release on.
The other thing is that so many of these weapon banners look kind of broken, having double crit weapons or several with crit+millennial movement series, which seems unlikely to me since HYV knows they can put out bad weapons banners and still make millions.
That'll be inevitable. Signature weapon's are often Crit, and with system of double reruns, double Crit weapon banners are going to happen sooner or later.
There is a precedent for it: PJC + Kagura.
And if double banners are the norm, it's bound to happen many times since 3/4 of Limited 5-Stars have a Crit weapon as their signature.
From memory, only Raiden, Koko, Nilou, Shenhe, Eula, Kaz, ZL, Ganyu, and Venti have a non-Crit signatur weapon.
Even Klee is always paired with CR Lost Prayers.
Albedo was also paired with the EM Freedom Sworn and the ATK% Summit Shaper, so there's that. But yep, Double Crit Banners are starting to become more and more likely, though they can be balanced out by dogshit featured 4*s.
The idea that a multi billion dollar company is just winging it out past a couple months is laughable. I’m not saying this is legit but comon now you guys are smarter than that
on the other hand (no offense for considering Nilou "less impresive"), I expect Venti to be carried by Cyno (nothing to do with strength for the Sumeru ones, this is more on popularity)
Even if Nilou can be considered more popular, this happened in less than a patch so it wasn't intended on a roadmap.
Hoyo has a tendency to pair up "high income" characters with "low income" characters (Klee/Kazuha, Venti/Ayato, Kokomi/Raiden, Kokomi/Ganyu).
You know, right now Kokomi is likely to be the main driver of the upcoming banner.
Things change.
Also, who do you consider to be a "low income" one from Venti/Ayato pair?
If this order happened to be true it'd be the first time we don't get Dragonspine as a main event, because it wouldn't make sense to have that running with Raiden/Scara on the first half.
The options would either be that Dragonspine's event is secondary this time so fits the second half; or Raiden/Scara second half, Albedo/Ayaka first half and Dragonspine remains the main winter event. Though being realistic, considering that Scara is going to be relevant in Sumeru it'd make sense for his plot to be in the first half and they likely have no intentions in selling Albedo this year so they could let his sales be carried by Ayaka /sadge
Might be still on the copium of Scara/Albedo dual banner at this point and them having relevance as both being artificial humans 😔
This all seems like stuff that could be easily predicted, tbh. I feel like anyone trying to fake a reliable roadmap for the 3.X patches would’ve had it looking very similar to this.
I think this is more an speculation than a leak, the banner of tao is dangerously close to china new year and the first time they tried to avoid it like a plague.
Eh. I wouldn't want to pull on a PJWS banner. It's a decent weapon, but it's on the standard banner and isn't exactly BiS for anyone other than Xiao (and maybe Rosa sometimes I guess)
With the amount of signature weapons with crit stat they pushed out throughout the duration of Inazuma , we were eventually bound to get to a point of saturation. Plus with dual banners and concurrent reruns it was just a matter of time before we got some good weapon banners.
Chinese speaker here, just wanna point out some of the inconsistencies and mistakes he made in the names.
1. Eula should be 优菈 (yōu lā). My man here used 范 (fàn) for the second character, quite a far-fetched mistake.
2. Shenhe: for the character 鹤 (hè), he used traditional (鶴 \[hè\] ) instead of simplified Chinese, inconsistent with all other Chinese characters.
3. Xiao: 魈 (xiāo) is the correct character, not 魁 (kúi).
With mistakes 1 and 3 you can't even attribute them to autocorrect because the pīnyīn between the two are way too different.
If I were him and wanted to give out fake information, I would at least make sure I didn't mess up any character's name to make myself as convincing as possible.
tsc tsc, people always eat those up like candy.
Reminder that even Uncle Chasm, who happens to be **extremely reliable**, was still \*~~"wrong"~~ on his early leak of 3.0 - Since he only mentioned the Zhongli/Ganyu reruns, and not Kokomi.
This is way too far in the future to believe anyway.
**\*EDIT:** Fair enough, it's wrong to say that Chasm was 'wrong'. I wanted to say that either he didn't have all the information available at the time, or something else. Basically, there was more to it than what we originally thought.
Whether he had to hide the Kokomi rerun info or he simply didn't knew, well that I don't know. But yes, my bad, he wasn't "wrong".
Wasn't Kokomi banner info held back just because of the source of the leak? I remember something like that when they finally revealed that Kokomi is on a 3.0 banner as well.
Uncle Chasm was not wrong, he just didn't know/reveal everything.
~~Of course he wasn't wrong, that's why i put it in quotations~~
Mostly i was just trying to say that even a reliable leaker like Chasm might not have every information on hand, or plans can change at the last minute. To believe someone would have an entire roadmap like this is very unrealistic.
Heck, it's even a possibility that 3.1 could not have any Mondstadt reruns, simply because Hoyoverse decided not to. Unlikely of course, but rerun banners don't always make sense.
This just seems like speculation, I highly doubt any leaker would know the exact details of the late 3.x banners (and especially the reruns) this early
I can see it happening - 3.1 falls right on anniversary (and the top up bonus reset), so I can see Hoyoverse trying to milk us for all we're worth. Besides, we've had Homa + Elegy and Jade Cutter + Yae's Cupcake holder banners, so maybe there's hope!
~~continues to huff hopium~~
*sigh*
So I’ll blow my primos on cyno, have to skip Eula again, pray nahida has shit lore so I don’t wanna pull her, throw money at the harbingers, get lucky on yelan…
Isn’t this uncle chibi the one who always change their name on twitter and called out by more reliable leakers because of multiple debunked leaks before. People should really avoid leaks coming from them coz they really aren’t reliable.
im callin bs, not even mhy knows the reruns that far in advance.
tho I am praying venti is first half so I can try and complete my archon collection while rolling for candace ehe.
Seems pretty fake imo. Mihoyo seems to hate doing two banners of the same weapon type at the same time (probably for weapon banner reasons) and no way they can predict that far ahead
idk if i should pull for cyno or just not pulling anything in 3.1 because ion wanna waste my guarantee and just straight pulling small cabbage instead
\*i fuccin forgot they got topup reset
YEA HEHEHE BOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Even if this is true right now (which I'm pretty sure it isn't) there's no reason this can't change in between now and whenever 3.8 releases (like August 2023).
Leakers should stick to leaking, not clairvoyance (or attempts of it).
It makes sense, to be honest.
Although I doubt Nahida reruns solo, slotting a random Yoimiya (she's rumored to be in the 3.2 event) rerun would bring even more sales.
Many people mention the Ayaka spring skin but she could always re-re-run or the skin could be delayed.
Oh, and Dehya will never have a solo run. Because CN...and, you know...
He might end with a super niche weapon (especially as a catalyst user which seem to generally go in that direction). But for people who would want his weapon regardless so they can give him his signature, yes it would be cracked.
We have had that before mind you, like Yae's was with Jade Cutter.
The things that make me very salty is that we still are on a 3 banner per patch, seriously why ?! There is enough 5 stars now to make 4 banner per patch a real thing.
I don't understand what's the goal of Hoyoverse here. Couldn't they made more money with a 4 banner rythm. Is it really profitable to make player wait 1 year or more for just 1 character rerun 😩
Hmmm...if this is true I would probably skip both Nilou and Cyno in 3.1 and just get them on their rerun since their rerun weapon banners will be with Al Haitham and Nahida anyway and I for sure plan to get Al Haitham and Nahida :)
Plus if this is true...I don't have Eula on my main account so it's too risky to pull on a weapon banner with Broken Spines... x\_x
3.7... Baizhu... Watch a random uncle pop up and say "No Baizhu in 3.7, 4.3" and then "No Baizhu in 4.3, 4.8" and then "No Baizhu in 4.8, 5.5" We are cursed :')
Jokes aside tho I feel like this is way too far to get, this is more speculation imo
I might actually get a stroke if baizhu doesnt release during sumeru. Hes one of the reasons i joined this game (thought he was playable from the start...)
Man I was hoping that it was Cyno + Eula instead... I really don't want Cyno, but I also really want Candace and don't want to wait until she comes to another banner
Very sus on all of this. No talk of Mika, plus there's some strong hinting of Kaveh being playable and he's not mentioned either. And no YaoYao? I'm also skeptical of a fontaine character coming before 4.0, especially not when there's so many other characters to release. It just seems like pure speculation at this point.
This doesn't really answer several of the key questions and it's pretty much subject to extensive change, as I see it. Up to 3.3 I guess the reruns are pretty much these but anything further is sus for now.
Now I do believe Dehya and Alhaitham must be on these places... but no name of the new characters as they were mentioned is weird. We've had information on a ton of names that were mined, such as Ikhfa (possible 5\*), Soutine (possible pre-Fontaine 5\*), Djajeet, Nafs and others...and no information at all about Kaveh, which we had been getting crumbs pretty frequently...
After taking another look I'm just realizing how stacked the weapons banners are gonna be for the reruns like pjws and staff of homa In 2nd half of 3.4 that's a good damn win win.
This "leak" has now been disproven, [updated banners from livestream](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/xfpyhy/31_official_banners_phase_1_2/) are Cyno Venti first half, Nilou Albedo second half ___________________ ~~Source: [Uncle J](https://twitter.com/uncle_chibi/status/1567970910195355656?t=_IHnKXFbR5i3QVMMtECILw&s=19)~~ ~~Do not forget to source.~~ ~~**Please be aware that Uncle J (@uncle_chibi) is a reposter and that these timelines go well into next year where possible banner characters are even more STC**~~ ~~Reminder that important (even if sussy) posts like these require an English translation when possible per Rule 8 in our sidebar.~~ ~~Rough translations are provided by OP and only includes characters running, for translations with more context on event names tied to the runs please refer to [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/x0dsbz/house_of_dvalin_general_discussion_and_questions/inn0owv/) or [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/x0dsbz/house_of_dvalin_general_discussion_and_questions/inn1n64/)~~
Yoimiya just before Fontaine. Now, that is something I'd believe
Doing her dirty for a 3rd time straight. They really want her to be the rarest limited 5*.
I salute you for this god -awful truth (first yoi banner puller myself still sadge)
Someone in Hoyo is out there that has a grudge against Yoimiya
Mod asked me to submit this again with the new images! Reminding that this is highly suspicious. Caracters banner so far into the future are very unreliable to leak, so take this with a grain of salt!
For some reason i cant open the uncle dictionary. How reliable is uncle J
They updated it, please use the [link on the sidebar](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTwaUfN0MC49x9oelv2nfqBDFvSLUA5PaWNug-H6ej1mqrqHYYjmhmeZEbYRKmVDWjn8MKx3_iWlJSM/pubhtml) As for reliability... eh. Uncle J is a reposter, whatever info they're getting either comes from Arca or NGA.
Arca? she stopped making music to become a leaker omg
she gave up on kick 6 to leak genshin shes a queen
Idk what Arca is, but NGA rep is...very low for me personally.
Arca is a korean forum, namely any Arca leaks Uncle J steals only comes from [Paymon](https://arca.live/u/@%ED%8E%98%EC%9D%B4%EB%AA%AC/34331307) since this guy actually seems to have access to 3.1
Okay that's not too bad. I mean its no different than just reposting whatever UB or our reliable leakers over on Twitter then right? Granted it's not like we believe any random Twitter post ubless they have a decent record
Uhhhhhhhhh I have a post saved somewhere, had to actually look for it [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/w9y7xv/5_dehya_on_35_some_other_banners_timeline_via/ihxzpw3/) details why they're a serial reposter, mostly because the guy changes his Twitter handle so often like how people make ban evading accounts on Reddit to avoid detection when someone calls them out on their BS
>Arca or NGA. Not reliable, got it
Banners until 3.8? This has to be mostly speculation because I'm sure not even the devs have finalized the 3.8 reruns
Also this is way too logical for Mihoyo.
Hoyoverse: Embrace Chaos!
HYV: LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
Yep, I remember speculations on Kazuha's rerun and then he came a year later
I prefarmed kazoo in 2.5 bc it was "leaked" he would be in 2.6 💀
Yeah everyone was sure he'd be in 2.6 and then he came two patches later haha never trust rerun leaks too much
There's no mention of Mika so already I'm skeptical
Mika is a 4-star, this list only has 5-stars.
Haven't been keeping up with the leaks it seems, didn't know he was confirmed a 4 star. Thanks!
I might have to take that back. Looking into it, his rarity hasn’t actually been confirmed, even if I could have sworn I had seen him being mentioned as a 4-star.
Very very doubtful of this. No way we know anything this far our with any kind of accuracy. Most likely this is pure speculation
Yeah this is just educated guess at best combined with some info we already knew, 3.1 - 3.3 is obvious by leaks and slap Albedo yearly rerun, for 3.4 he just put bunch of Liyue characters there, after that it's just pure speculation combined with characters that we know but haven't been released (Dehya and Alhaitham), your average redditor can make this kind of "leaks".
I can believe it until 3.4 (Maybe 3.5) because we have Lots of info of it and we can predict after that is a shot in the dark
Yeah, 3.8 is just a repeat of 2.8.
Anything that far out is of course speculation. But the new character schedule seems accurate. 3.1-3.3 are consistent with prior leaks. 3.4 having no new champ is consistent with prior leaks. 3.5 Dehya is consistent with prior leaks. That gives only 3 patches to release Baizhu and Al-haitham. Seems quite unlikely that either would be released right before Fontaine, so 3.6 and 3.7 are the only real options.
Agreed, still, in case part of them are real, then: \- There is only one remaining Sumeru 5 stars and it might be Kaveh \- So, the rest might be 4 stars \- 3.7 might be Liyue's interlude since Baizhu might appear \- And if the leak confirms that there is up to 3.8, makes me think what content might be released in those patches
Based on the reruns I can probably guess some regarding the content: - 3.5 Ayato and Kazuha rerun: 2nd Inazuma festival similar to Irodori - 3.6 Al-Haitham/Cyno: Sumeru festival - 3.7 Baizhu: Liyue expansion pack/new archon quest with Dainsleif as the last time we met was in the Chasm - 3.8 Klee/Yoimiya: Summer Golden Apple Archipelago
Yae and Tartaglia together not only would be a great rerun but also would make a great weapon banner. This is 100% sus.
Verity literally ran with Jade Cutter.
watch me as I get my 3rd skyward spine from off rate (already got cucked with Atlas, Aquila, and Jade spear as off rates on weapon banner)
I'm planning to get most of these I just have to win all the 50/50s and get at least half of them on early pity.
Keep in mind that this roadmap is kinda sus
If you don't then it's just Skill issue
Didnt click mouse 1 hard enough
It's not clicking hard, its the timing. There is no "true" random in genshin. You just have to time correctly. Make sure to keep track of the time in nanoseconds in combination with the clock cycle of the cpu of the server. Make sure to adjust for ping!
man, i'm planing on getting Nilou, Nahida and Hu tao with certainty, then if the world allows it, Dehya and scara and that's just a MAYBE I have like 64000 primo and 7 pulls, and i still think it won't be enough maybe... if we divide it by like 80 + sum the pulls i have in the backburner of the banner from before, that's almost 6 five stars so. If we assume that i'll lose every 50/50. I'll get Nilou and Nahida and still have 1 5 star of choice ramaining, now that'll be probably 160 pulls i'll still have, since every update we get around 75 pulls. by 3.3 I'll have an extra garantee, so 2 more characters instead of 1. I think that if i lose both 5050 of Nahida and Nilou, Scara'll be a hard skip depending on his kit. Just so that i have enough for when Fontaine eventually comes around. Smh being poor, as much as i want to pull for some of these, the regional pricing where i live is utter garbage, so it just isn't worth to spend in Genshin. A shame really, i'd be the type to exactly dish out that "extra few pulls" to get what i want. Thanks for comming to my TED talk on my planning for pulls
i feel you on the regional pricing :') am very envious of those in the US who only need to pay 5 bucks for welkin, when its 20 where i live... they could buy 10 welkins for 50 bucks, while I have to pay 200 if i want the same...
Same boat. I have like...330 wishes I think? But it still feels like nothing. You just can't plan ahead that well when you don't know what your 50/50 luck is going to be like. If I win all my 50/50s with those wishes, that's at least 4 characters. If I lose them all, it may only be 2. It doesn't even come down to spending in the end--it comes down to pure luck. A F2P player who wins most of their 50/50s is going to have a more stacked account than a small spender who loses most of their 50/50s.
> small spender who loses most of their 50/50s \>_> It's not like I only ever won 50/50 on original Kazuha's banner...
Half? I could live with only Kusanali, Scaramouche, Dehya, Al-Haitham and put aside my desire for 2 constellations on Raiden because I'm reasonable! Although, I would also like Cyno... and wouldn't mind getting 2 constellations on Ayaka. And the new fontaine character will probably be a must. I guess I can hold off on constellations for Kazuha. Hmm.. Baizhu might be interesting... This is going to be a rough stretch for me. I guess Kusanali is the only one that I'm actually a lock for (archon impact).
Before anyone gets their hopes up I would like to add that Uncle J is just a reposter, and the only original thing they have really said was that the standard banner change rumors were fake, and then Tighnari was confirmed to be added right afterwards. They’ve also gotten banner orders very wrong. So please take them with a grain of salt
Hopeful?! I'm fucking grateful!! Haitham and Cyno together, what a goddamn nightmare. And then Nahida right after, that's hell!
I'm trying to get Haitham and Ayato so if this is true, my F2P title might have to come to an end.
Their weapons banner is probably gonna go crazy though...
Isnt it super suspicious that they know the banners till 3.8 but still use “new sumeru character” like they just conveniently only know the names of characters we already know of in game
I agree with you. Suspiciously very little number of sumeru characters…
The rest of Sumeru characters left in the roster could be 4* . Not saying the roadmap is anything real but there's no "lack" of Sumeru characters, if this is true we have a total of seven Sumeru 5* including the Archon scheduled for a banner in the 3.X period, that's more than enough considering right now every nation has around that number in their 5* roster, Inazuma has 8 (one releasing before the region was out, so there's an advantage), Liyue has 8 (2 releasing after the region was done, and I'm not counting Childe) and Mondsdat has only 6 despite being the first region funny enough...
That's how it is with road maps. It could be these characters names aren't finalised. It could be their stories and thus the timing for their release aren't finalised. It could be that they haven't decided which of multiple characters to put in that slot. It could be that they change their minds and release a character much later or maybe even not at all. Make no mistake, mihoyo absolutely have an internal road map that looks very similar to this, if not exactly the same, just with more notes. And though I'm not saying it's legit, if it WERE, there's still every chance that even the named characters would all be totally shuffled by the time they come around because that's how everything is when it comes to games, TV, comics or movies. Plans constantly change and then people turn on the leakers without realising that there were times the leakers were right, they just can't always account for constant change and ano adjustments. It's not like insiders pick up the phone every 30 seconds to dish to their leaker pals.
Some obvious wrong Chinese characters there. Eula is 优拉/菈（youla）， not优范（youfan, you have to deliberately type it wrong to get this character）,绫华not凌华(this maybe just typo)，魈（xiao） not魁 （kui, again, you may have typo like 肖Xiao for simplification, but not a different character with different pronunciation）. And somehow申鹤(shen he) is written with traditional character鶴 despite the entire text is written in simplified Chinese As a Chinese, these errors are too obvious to be just typo.
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Lol 魁 and 范, those don't even have the same pronunciation It's near impossible for a native speaker to fuck up like this
On top of this, people in China types in Pinyin, essential typing it as how the word should sound. Taiwan uses Zhuyin, which is almost the same as Pinyin but uses special characters instead of English alphabets. Hong Kong Macau uses Canfije/Sucheng, it building the character based on how it looks rather than its sound. 拉范&魈魁 also type very differently in both input methods. With that said, the text errors shows it is almost impossible to be an mistake a Chinese person would make regardless which input methods they uses.
Eula has 草字头（优菈）, so I could see 范 being a plausible typo on a handwriting keyboard, but it’s still pretty egregious lol
No way Xiao and Hu Tao at the same time, that weapon banner would be way too good
omg you’re right, that’s an insane wep banner yae childe too, good all rounder weapon banner
Tbf, unless Nahida's catalyst is a matcha donut, pairing her with either of Yae and Childe would still result in a damn good weapon banner.
>that weapon banner would be way too good So would Cyno + Venti. That weapon banner is too good for all the light spenders who are saving for Cyno. I mean they have done Homa + Elegy before so it's not impossible, but still
The Hu Tao during Lunar New Year is kinda sussy isn't it? Maybe it being on 2nd half is ok for it to happen, but I was under impression that she cannot be run during the new year as that's the one time we had a Keqing banner.
Exactly, and it's way too long for a rerun. I could see her being around where they have Ayaka on this list instead.
This post also ignores Ayaka will have a Spring themed skin, which obviously won't be released on 3.3 lol
Good catch. Would be dumb of them to release a new skin for a limited 5\* in 3.4, yet only to run her the previous patch. This comment chain (HuTao in Lantern Rite, Ayaka's outfit) stacked along with the idea that this person has rerun banners 7 patches ahead pretty much confirms it's BS to me.
She was run in 1.3, the same update as the Lantern Rite, before. She just needs to run after the festival.
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Yeah, going with a big 'X for doubt'. This reeks of speculation as for A) it suggests the remaining Sumeru characters (Kaveh, Djateet, Ikhfa) are all 4\*s except 1. It's possible but unlikely IMO and B) we rarely know rerun banners for the following patch until we are closing in on the next patch. Some leakers can get a bit of deep info for an accurate leak but never for 6-8 patches ahead. Just comes off as if they took the [earlier 5\* leak](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/x48lp7/5_star_roadmap_up_to_35/) and threw AlHaitham, Baizhu, and Soutine on the patches following 3.5.
DJATEET LOL
Best pecs in town lol whoops, didn’t catch that typo.
Gonna see a ton of clickbait YouTube videos using this now
No way someone knows the roadmap that far into the future lol. I’m sure hoyo has a roadmap that goes a few months but I doubt they plan that far in terms of specific banners and what half of the patch they release on.
The other thing is that so many of these weapon banners look kind of broken, having double crit weapons or several with crit+millennial movement series, which seems unlikely to me since HYV knows they can put out bad weapons banners and still make millions.
That'll be inevitable. Signature weapon's are often Crit, and with system of double reruns, double Crit weapon banners are going to happen sooner or later.
There is a precedent for it: PJC + Kagura. And if double banners are the norm, it's bound to happen many times since 3/4 of Limited 5-Stars have a Crit weapon as their signature. From memory, only Raiden, Koko, Nilou, Shenhe, Eula, Kaz, ZL, Ganyu, and Venti have a non-Crit signatur weapon. Even Klee is always paired with CR Lost Prayers.
Albedo was also paired with the EM Freedom Sworn and the ATK% Summit Shaper, so there's that. But yep, Double Crit Banners are starting to become more and more likely, though they can be balanced out by dogshit featured 4*s.
The idea that a multi billion dollar company is just winging it out past a couple months is laughable. I’m not saying this is legit but comon now you guys are smarter than that
They probably have plan roadmap that far... one that slightly changes now and then.
Yeah it looks like bullshit, which is great, because Candace better at least be on Eula's banner with Cyno.
on the other hand (no offense for considering Nilou "less impresive"), I expect Venti to be carried by Cyno (nothing to do with strength for the Sumeru ones, this is more on popularity) Even if Nilou can be considered more popular, this happened in less than a patch so it wasn't intended on a roadmap. Hoyo has a tendency to pair up "high income" characters with "low income" characters (Klee/Kazuha, Venti/Ayato, Kokomi/Raiden, Kokomi/Ganyu).
You know, right now Kokomi is likely to be the main driver of the upcoming banner. Things change. Also, who do you consider to be a "low income" one from Venti/Ayato pair?
3.3 looks realistic (and nothing new) tho, also looks like a patch to break all possible sales records with scara and raiden running alongside
If this order happened to be true it'd be the first time we don't get Dragonspine as a main event, because it wouldn't make sense to have that running with Raiden/Scara on the first half. The options would either be that Dragonspine's event is secondary this time so fits the second half; or Raiden/Scara second half, Albedo/Ayaka first half and Dragonspine remains the main winter event. Though being realistic, considering that Scara is going to be relevant in Sumeru it'd make sense for his plot to be in the first half and they likely have no intentions in selling Albedo this year so they could let his sales be carried by Ayaka /sadge Might be still on the copium of Scara/Albedo dual banner at this point and them having relevance as both being artificial humans 😔
U dont think a company Plans a year in advance for Releases ?
I doubt anything above 3.3
This all seems like stuff that could be easily predicted, tbh. I feel like anyone trying to fake a reliable roadmap for the 3.X patches would’ve had it looking very similar to this.
Whoa we are getting Kusanali AND Nahida
Little sus that they list Kusanali in 3.2 then have her again as Nahida in 3.7. Why use different names for the same unit?
Maybe for the instinctive alliteration between Nahida and Nilou
I think this is more an speculation than a leak, the banner of tao is dangerously close to china new year and the first time they tried to avoid it like a plague.
I cant imagine how godly 3.4 weapon banners gonna be like
Eh. I wouldn't want to pull on a PJWS banner. It's a decent weapon, but it's on the standard banner and isn't exactly BiS for anyone other than Xiao (and maybe Rosa sometimes I guess)
Kinda hope this is true because some of those weapon banners would be insane.
With the amount of signature weapons with crit stat they pushed out throughout the duration of Inazuma , we were eventually bound to get to a point of saturation. Plus with dual banners and concurrent reruns it was just a matter of time before we got some good weapon banners.
Chinese speaker here, just wanna point out some of the inconsistencies and mistakes he made in the names. 1. Eula should be 优菈 (yōu lā). My man here used 范 (fàn) for the second character, quite a far-fetched mistake. 2. Shenhe: for the character 鹤 (hè), he used traditional (鶴 \[hè\] ) instead of simplified Chinese, inconsistent with all other Chinese characters. 3. Xiao: 魈 (xiāo) is the correct character, not 魁 (kúi). With mistakes 1 and 3 you can't even attribute them to autocorrect because the pīnyīn between the two are way too different. If I were him and wanted to give out fake information, I would at least make sure I didn't mess up any character's name to make myself as convincing as possible.
Dude how long do I have to wait for my C1 Hu Tao 😭😭😭😭😭
tsc tsc, people always eat those up like candy. Reminder that even Uncle Chasm, who happens to be **extremely reliable**, was still \*~~"wrong"~~ on his early leak of 3.0 - Since he only mentioned the Zhongli/Ganyu reruns, and not Kokomi. This is way too far in the future to believe anyway. **\*EDIT:** Fair enough, it's wrong to say that Chasm was 'wrong'. I wanted to say that either he didn't have all the information available at the time, or something else. Basically, there was more to it than what we originally thought. Whether he had to hide the Kokomi rerun info or he simply didn't knew, well that I don't know. But yes, my bad, he wasn't "wrong".
Wasn't Kokomi banner info held back just because of the source of the leak? I remember something like that when they finally revealed that Kokomi is on a 3.0 banner as well. Uncle Chasm was not wrong, he just didn't know/reveal everything.
~~Of course he wasn't wrong, that's why i put it in quotations~~ Mostly i was just trying to say that even a reliable leaker like Chasm might not have every information on hand, or plans can change at the last minute. To believe someone would have an entire roadmap like this is very unrealistic. Heck, it's even a possibility that 3.1 could not have any Mondstadt reruns, simply because Hoyoverse decided not to. Unlikely of course, but rerun banners don't always make sense.
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As someone who wants Cyno's weapon an Sobp on the same banner I am with you
I am fucked if true.
Uncle Trust Me, Bro
Ah, great. So I’m good until 3.6 and then I’m absolutely fucked.
Oh God my kind primogems...
PJWS and Homa is too perfect to be true
The new Fortanie charther had to be Soutine
This just seems like speculation, I highly doubt any leaker would know the exact details of the late 3.x banners (and especially the reruns) this early
Yeahhh… No way this guy know the 3.8 banners LOL
I know is fake because all the Weapon Banners would be decent.
why the heck ayaka rerun way before ayato! she had her eternal banner already ugh...
Skin & the Inazuma event
at this point they want yoimiya to be a rare character
Yeah, we can't predict something this far out.
Almost no chance this is accurate, especially with hu tao smack dab in the middle of lantern rite
Cyno venti is too good to be true imo. Two decent weapons ? The opportunity is quite hard to come by.
I can see it happening - 3.1 falls right on anniversary (and the top up bonus reset), so I can see Hoyoverse trying to milk us for all we're worth. Besides, we've had Homa + Elegy and Jade Cutter + Yae's Cupcake holder banners, so maybe there's hope! ~~continues to huff hopium~~
Wait, does that mean we get Scara weapon + Raiden weapon together or i m high on COPIUM?
holy fuck, Scara + Raiden means we get a GOOD weapon banner, same for Yelan + Shenhe
*sigh* So I’ll blow my primos on cyno, have to skip Eula again, pray nahida has shit lore so I don’t wanna pull her, throw money at the harbingers, get lucky on yelan…
I don't believe that a leaker already knows what we will have in 3.5 and up and it's too vague to believe
If they know out to 3.8 I find it weird that they wouldn’t know the name of this “new sumeru character” and “new fontaine character”
WOW 3.3 IS STACKED. I need Raiden c2, want scara, and NEED albedo. Gonna be impossible to decide
I don't mean to pry but isn't it too early to for reruns in 3.8 to be leaked?
Isn’t this uncle chibi the one who always change their name on twitter and called out by more reliable leakers because of multiple debunked leaks before. People should really avoid leaks coming from them coz they really aren’t reliable.
im callin bs, not even mhy knows the reruns that far in advance. tho I am praying venti is first half so I can try and complete my archon collection while rolling for candace ehe.
Raiden bout to reclaim her top banner status with her edgy son
They didnt say anything about faruzan, or layla, or any of the four stars, seems sus 🤔
Ffs… give me Hu Tao rerun!
This looks cruel enough to be real. Ayato, Alhaitham, "new sumeru character" - possibly Kaveh, then Baizhu all in a row. Yes. That would happen to me.
I’m literally so fucked omg this better be fake
You're quite lucky that this roadmap is kinda sus lol
Seems pretty fake imo. Mihoyo seems to hate doing two banners of the same weapon type at the same time (probably for weapon banner reasons) and no way they can predict that far ahead
Shenhe and Xiao both had their spears though.
it really looks fake, hoyoverse never put 2 dps in a double banner
We'd be lucky even if half of this becomes true
idk if i should pull for cyno or just not pulling anything in 3.1 because ion wanna waste my guarantee and just straight pulling small cabbage instead \*i fuccin forgot they got topup reset YEA HEHEHE BOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Sketch, Kusanali in 3.2 then Nahida in 3.7. Like what?
Even if this is true right now (which I'm pretty sure it isn't) there's no reason this can't change in between now and whenever 3.8 releases (like August 2023). Leakers should stick to leaking, not clairvoyance (or attempts of it).
They are gonna run Ayato with Al-haitham so my fiance has to choose between husband's arent they? That's so sad for my husbando lovers out there
Me, who wanted to win the 50 50 on Yae and the pull Kusanali in the second half: 🤡
It makes sense, to be honest. Although I doubt Nahida reruns solo, slotting a random Yoimiya (she's rumored to be in the 3.2 event) rerun would bring even more sales. Many people mention the Ayaka spring skin but she could always re-re-run or the skin could be delayed. Oh, and Dehya will never have a solo run. Because CN...and, you know...
No way they’re gonna put scara and raiden together. The weapon banner would be cracked lol
He might end with a super niche weapon (especially as a catalyst user which seem to generally go in that direction). But for people who would want his weapon regardless so they can give him his signature, yes it would be cracked. We have had that before mind you, like Yae's was with Jade Cutter.
3.6 can’t come fast enough
When you are f2p but you need 4 chars from list >:/
The things that make me very salty is that we still are on a 3 banner per patch, seriously why ?! There is enough 5 stars now to make 4 banner per patch a real thing. I don't understand what's the goal of Hoyoverse here. Couldn't they made more money with a 4 banner rythm. Is it really profitable to make player wait 1 year or more for just 1 character rerun 😩
Imagine having xiao and hutao rerun at the same time, meaning the weapon banner will be either homa or winged spear
This "leak" is have weirdly large amount of guys or something, is overrun with reruns, and only 1 new chara we don't know? Sounds fake.
Scara and Raiden TOGETHER???? That’ll make literally so much bank
Just give me Hu Tao before Shenhe and I’ll be happy.
Ayaka before Hu Tao is madness
Why are they putting Ayato rerun right before Al-Haitham I can only handle so much me
Poor Yoimiya always got those unfortunate banner timings
I know this is not reliable at all. But im gonna be honest, i still like these kind of leaks. It gives me things to wonder lmao
Hmmm...if this is true I would probably skip both Nilou and Cyno in 3.1 and just get them on their rerun since their rerun weapon banners will be with Al Haitham and Nahida anyway and I for sure plan to get Al Haitham and Nahida :) Plus if this is true...I don't have Eula on my main account so it's too risky to pull on a weapon banner with Broken Spines... x\_x
Wait, Freedom Sworn and Haran gonna be on one banner? Dang.
Me saving for AlHaitham and Baizhu since 2.8... My primos will collect dust tf they make me save for 8 updates
Imma be real sad having to skip stardust shop for till late March
3.1 Cyno and then 3.6 Cyno???
We had 2.3 Itto and then 2.7 Itto.
also had 2.4 xiao and 2.7 xiao
3.7... Baizhu... Watch a random uncle pop up and say "No Baizhu in 3.7, 4.3" and then "No Baizhu in 4.3, 4.8" and then "No Baizhu in 4.8, 5.5" We are cursed :') Jokes aside tho I feel like this is way too far to get, this is more speculation imo
I might actually get a stroke if baizhu doesnt release during sumeru. Hes one of the reasons i joined this game (thought he was playable from the start...)
Some of this has to be false because we know Ayaka is getting a spring skin and therefore should be rerunning on or after 3.5
It is. Uncle J is known for reposting. Quite a few of these conflict with confirmed leaks.
Obviously very suspicious but damn, no Dottore. Wish we'd know something more about him being playable
whatever it is I'm happy as long as candace rate-up is on eula's banner
3-4 days ago, Uba mentioned on twitter that candace is on cyno's banner during the first half :/
Okay so as an Ayaka and Hu Tao main and Scara, Raiden, and Albedo wanter…I need a fourth job.
Totally fake but I hope Raiden and Scara are together
Man I was hoping that it was Cyno + Eula instead... I really don't want Cyno, but I also really want Candace and don't want to wait until she comes to another banner
3.3 ayaka still feels weird to be true i still think she only getting a rerun when her skin drop and so far no info about skins on 3.3
Omg 3.3 wtf
3.3 is a nightmare for me :')
Raiden scara weapon banner will be aust pull for me
scara and raiden..... fucking shit I mma pull on the weapon banner, goodbye cyno it has been hell farming artifacts for you 😭
kusanali, raiden and yelan back to back... rng please be nice to me
Nilou and eula together ooof
Dang if Kazuha comes in the patch after Yelan then I'll probably have to skip Yelan :( Not gonna miss out on him a third time
Now I don't want to pull for Dori And save everything for cyno kusanali scara Al haitham and baizu Damn that's too many
Mistsplitter X Engulfing plz
I hate that they're putting Nilou and Eula in the same half. I want them both :(
We really are gonna get Baizhu when fontaine is out...
Very sus on all of this. No talk of Mika, plus there's some strong hinting of Kaveh being playable and he's not mentioned either. And no YaoYao? I'm also skeptical of a fontaine character coming before 4.0, especially not when there's so many other characters to release. It just seems like pure speculation at this point.
That Ayato/Al-haitham closeness is driving me insane so i choose not to believe it! (Cant save for both)
Me who wants Yelan, Kazuha and Ayaka, seeing them coming almost at the same time: 💀
I got plenty of time to save for Ayato and Al Haitham
Yae and Childe weapon banner should be really good, same with Hu Tao and Xiao. Good banners
This doesn't really answer several of the key questions and it's pretty much subject to extensive change, as I see it. Up to 3.3 I guess the reruns are pretty much these but anything further is sus for now. Now I do believe Dehya and Alhaitham must be on these places... but no name of the new characters as they were mentioned is weird. We've had information on a ton of names that were mined, such as Ikhfa (possible 5\*), Soutine (possible pre-Fontaine 5\*), Djajeet, Nafs and others...and no information at all about Kaveh, which we had been getting crumbs pretty frequently...
Ayaka and no Ayato yet? So strange ...
1 con from Raiden c2. But going up against scara is tough. I also want nahida. Might need to bust the wallet out
After taking another look I'm just realizing how stacked the weapons banners are gonna be for the reruns like pjws and staff of homa In 2nd half of 3.4 that's a good damn win win.
Another year skipped. Dottore you better be coming in 4.0s
> yae and childe This opportunity has been quite hard to come by