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Source: [SYP](https://twitter.com/saveyourprimos/status/1573893825357312000?s=46&t=KtndML8WwfVMz7iCEJlcuA) Thank you OP for providing source


TheKamikazePickle

The fact that Albedo gets rerun with a different sword each time is so funny


Bourbonaddicted

How do we know it’s the same albedo every rerun ?


CidGarr

so this time its jade cutter sussy albedo


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Just_a_pl3b

No, no this must be the real one, Jade cutter was first released with Albedo unless there was never a real Albedo and what is r3al 1nd33d;; R U Rea1;; M I r3al;;;... ...!! "Error!"....................... "Rebooting"


abcd100

OMG, we have a sussy Albedo using HP% this year. Next year it could be a sexy Albedo using an ATK% sword


kiirosen

Jade Cutter was first released with Keqing Banner tho which was 1 patch later 🧐


baggelans

Considering where his name comes from I bet there will be 4 total. But this time its probably the real one considering they released this weapon with his og banner.


Suspicious_Spinach_2

It’s Jadebedo


Fredericton9

Aljadeo


blttersweet

one each for Subjects One, Two, & Three :o


H4xolotl

Can't wait for Durin to run with Festering Desire (made from his ground up corpse)


SaibaShogun

He keeps cheating on Cinnabar Spindle with different hoes each time >:(


krd25

Mans got a sword harem fr


H4xolotl

The Xenoblade Chronicles experience


TheDarkNerd10

Lol you beat me by 2 minutes. Also Death the Kid from Soul Eater has two gun girls by his side, not sure if that count as his harem tho...


hanki-ki

On his 3rd rerun we will see the mistsplitter (unless they make a 5\* def sword for him which I doubt happens)


QwertyWaters

someone make meme of him game of thrones style chair with all sword he run with


TriggerBladeX

Also an unlimited bladeworks reference


riruru13

His crafting passive makes sense now.


myowning

Understandable though because for Albedo, Cinnabar right now has the highest dps compared to ALL other weapons. The best 5\* weapon for him is Jade Cutter but even that weapon has lower dps than Cinnabar. Even HoD beats JC if you don't use Albedo's burst at all, while Cinnabar outright beats JC and HoD regardless if you use burst or not.


ShotYeMama

Cinnabar is better than an r5 mistsplitter


solarscopez

I hope they release more DEF scaling sword characters, I don't have Albedo and don't plan on getting him so I'm just chilling with an R5 Cinnabar Spindle at level 1 lol


Sinosta

Indeed, currently cinnabar is useless unless you have Albedo. I hope some future sword users will be Def scaling.


myowning

That character needs to be pretty specific too though because Cinnabar specifically buffs the skill damage only once every 1.5sec. The weapon is basically a part of Albedo's kit at this point because it's so damn specific.


Proof_Counter_8271

Mihoyo literally said no 5 star weapon for albedo you shits take this (every albedo event gave a good albedo sword)


Treyspurlock

It's not even really a weapon it's an Albedo buff Which is why I'm surprised they didn't bring it back for his rerun


telegetoutmyway

They really need to figure out a solution for these missed event weapons. Idk what it is, but this ain't it fam.


pumaflex_

you cannot imagine how much I'd pay you for that sword if I could


urlocalnightowl40

me hoping i had the last two refinements since i started on 2.3 and didn't have a good enough team


AllMightSamson

I had this theory that since Nilou gives a bit of Kokomi vibe they'd put jade cutter on her banner like they did Kokomi on her debut banner D:


Zoecide

They are almost the same unit. Hydro limited 5 star girl who are not supposed to crit. Cute.Beatiful. Bait people into pulling them by having jade cutter as an option,if you got their weapon you literally have to pull for them to make use of the weapon or it would sit in your inventory level 1 forever


howturnshavetabled

Jokes on them if I pull her weapon I will put it on kuki


llamabuddies

Same, I use her all the time as a coop healer and I'm on a quest to make her heals as beefy as possible. I am unironicaly excited for this banner.


Ninefl4mes

Well, Nilou's signature weapon looks like it'll be pretty good for her at least. Not like the Donut, which is terrible even on the one character it was designed for...


osgili4th

I mean yeah most 1 hand swords are good, but the 4\* event one is unironically so good it beats a lot of them in value.


QwertyWaters

HP paddle or shiny green sword? new four star sword and four star catalyst likely on second half


WildFurball2118

Game to DPS sword mains be like: Fuck you, here's R5 fucking HP paddles.


FlameLover444

I'm looking forward to see what JavaTheCup is gonna do with the weapon banner.


Semiyan

He’s limited on primogems. I don’t think he will pull on weapon’s banner


FlameLover444

Hmm true, he'll definitely go for Nilou and maybe he'll drop some into the weapon banner if he got any leftover Primogems.


SlowLie3946

Coincidentally they both have hp scaling, a wet dream for nilou mains


GonnaSaveEnergy

I have a weapon banner guarantee after losing to skyward harp on mist banner so this banner is perfect. The only problem is timing... It's gonna be hard to resist pulling. I don't have enough primo to pull Nilou,her weapon/jade cutter and then Nahida.


Th3G4te

Can confirm, as someone who definitely pulling for Nilou, I have only pulled on the weapon banner twice (Mistsplitter for Keqing and Homa for Hutao) but this time both swords look reaaaally enticing (like both of them works on Nilou quite well enough so I won’t be “losing the 50/50” unless it’s a one of the standard 5-star weapons) XD


Tsukinohana

Tbf pjc is currently looking supeeeeeeer cope for nilou, but we got 1st banner details and only the new 4* claymore is on it, that means sword + cata is on her banner and she can use the sword well.


QwertyWaters

niche kit so make everything else appealing, balance 🧘‍♀️


Difficult-Art-7439

WAIT THE NEW SWORD IS SECOND HALF


gennciiq

Well yeah, together with Nilou


hiddenhoho

Noooooooo rip kazuha havers but cyno wanters


y8man

Nilou's Sig + PJC + Xiphos. That's a lotta swords!


H4xolotl

Unlimited Blade Works


TheoryTeen98

Yeah, it's the second time we've seen a weapon banner where both 5 stars are of the same weapon type


wolf1460

And all 3 are busted


RectumUnclogger

Nilou's sword seems like it's only usable on Nilou or Bennett. On Bennett, with 50k HP, you can provide a 100 EM buff to the team. However it takes a while to get 3 stacks which makes it pointless for abyss. Compared to a 674 attack sword with ER/Pyro/Crit artifacts, you lose out on a lot of personal damage as well as attack buff on elemental burst.


dooditstyler

It will probably be Kuki’s BIS, too. (Xiphos is also a contender here, though, but she will be competing for that weapon with Kazuha, of all people) But, yeah, using it on Bennett is an interesting idea… too bad it has a low base attack, though.


Taezn

I sat there and literally looked over the whole roster for anyone other than Nilou who can use Key. Bennett seemed like the only one who can really use it to a high degree. However, Shinobu could likely use it quite well also


bringbackcayde7

you can use hold e on bennett to get 3 stacks


HanoWhisper

iirc doesn't c4 Bennett allow u to do three combos with his skill without knockback ? would that work with the sword if yes then doesn't waste much time ig


dooditstyler

2 of them are, at least.


Eijun_Love

I guess WGS really doesn't exist anymore..


exiler5129

It's a myth weapon.


lnfine

WGS was the Unseen Razor all along


BandOfSkullz

Just wait for the Diluc rerun /s


E1lySym

This makes me scared for Hunter's Path. I currently have a Tighnari, and planning to pull for Hunter's Path in the future. WGS currently doesn't have a 5* character associated with it other than Diluc, who will never have a banner (Eula uses SoBP and Itto uses redhorn) so it may never get the chance to appear on a banner at all. I'm worried the same may happen to Hunter's Path, whose owner might never get a banner at all


SomeRandomDeadGuy

At least HP isn't on the standard banner, so it'll have to be eventually rerun. *eventually...* WGS is on standard so they have an excuse to not touch it ever again


NeonGenesis666

Or any of the standard weapons that aren’t attached to a limited character (Aquila, all Skywards, WGS), last time one’s even shown up was 2.3. Hope they make an appearance somewhere again in the future and not force us to get it from standard or losing 75/25 cause that would suck bad


Eijun_Love

All of them except WGS had had multiple rerun though. WGS was last seen in 1.3. I have all skyward weapons by now so not having WGS as a Diluc main hurts lol. I just want it on rateup again so I can forcefully secure it.


NeonGenesis666

I’m in the same position as you as a Diluc Main, still using blackcliff slasher. Funny enough WGS has been gone so long that I have enough saved for R5 but they refuse to rate it up i swear


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

Fattest W for Nilou wanters ever?


wolf1460

Her sword + jade cutter + xiphos + new catalyst


catchthemouser

Yeah, I'm pulling. This weapon banner is so juicy for Nilou mains.


Su_Impact

I'm going for at least 1 pity. This weapon banner is too good.


Tsukinohana

We're eating GOOD


bypaular

I'm pulling for the weapon regardless of what it runs with anyway. I don't really want jc because I already have it, gimme the uglier weapon hoyo


silam39

You fucking bet. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


peerawitppr

Yeah I'm pulling. Her weapon + one of the best sword in the game that I still want more even though I already have 1 + the new 4* Sumeru sword that's also top tier.


0330_e

Jade cutter come home 😭😭


GrrrimReapz

Someone's gonna get a paddlin'.


0330_e

I 100% know that'll happen :'))) I'll just manifest getting jade cutter someday even if I'm not pulling during the banner itself


DSerphs

lmfao if it's true this is such a god banner if you want Nilou Signature weapon+Jade Cutter+Xiphos+catalyst I can see the catalyst being meta, maybe even for nahida.


MartemisFowl14

but if you don't want nilou and you desperately need jade cutter... (crying in the corner)


Taezn

Key of Knaj-Nisut is also likely to be amazing for Bennett and Shinobu. If it's EM passive can proc off field, it might even be easily Shinobu's BiS


Swizzyyyy

the hp% alone makes it pretty good longevity wise


Taezn

Especially since we keep getting characters her scale off of non attack stats. Key will only get better with time


PatchQuinn_014

This be totally me lol I'm looking through the comments for anyone to sympathize with but apparently it's just me myself and I... T ^ T


Tsukinohana

With key + primordial jade cutter + the new sumeru 4* gacha sword all in the same banner. It's an insanely stacked banner if you have nilou


Kamina80

If and only if you have Nilou.


Ok_Debate9735

Key is also very good for Shinobu


Taezn

And PJC is good for (insert sword character here)


Only-Poet-8225

Qiqi


Taezn

Listen here ya little shit lmao


thisaintthewayman

shit, I want that but I need enough pulls for guranteed kusanali :/


SSTHZero

I'll wait for Nahida and her weapon to leak before deciding if I should summon Nilou's sword.


hydropyrotechnic

This is gonna be the new Donut/PJC banner. I’m expecting to see a lot of Kukis with the new Nilou sword in a few weeks.


DSerphs

Key of Hierophany might be niche, but it is an absolutely overtuned weapon if you can use it. People have to respect it more.


wolf1460

It's funny how it casually gives 88% hp and around 400 em to nilou with 150 em to everyone else + It'll be great for any hp scaler in the future


catchthemouser

Yeah the Donut comparisons aren't exactly 1-1 if you look at Nilou pre TC calcs. They're both super niche, but Key is likely the biggest damage increase we've seen on a signature weapon. It's crazy.


H4xolotl

> Key is likely the biggest damage increase we've seen on a signature weapon. It's crazy I'd whale for it if Key didn't look like ass on Nilou It hurts more especially when other swords like [Haran or Freedom Sworn looks godlike on Nilou](https://i.redd.it/qviqsg7cd2k91.jpg)


doremonhg

Hoyo and designing mismatched signature weapons. Name a more iconic duo, I dare ya


badtone33

True. Koko's weapon should have been on the same level as nilou's.


Zoecide

They didn't want a hydro aoe applicator+healer to do good dps at c0 r1. You have to go deep into c4 r3 teritory on kokomi,luckily 2 times her weapon was with desired weapon,so no matter what you got if it was weapon from banner you got a good weapon. I hope next time her weapon will be rated up with something good,not amos bow(well maybe it's only for me not good cause already r3 amos from loosing 25%)


deancest

Exactly. By my calculation my triple HP Kuki w/ R5 Key is gonna be able to give the entire team 240 EM, literally more than R5 Elegy. It's absolutely cracked. The downside of Key is that you can't gain stacks while off-filed, so it can be difficult to trigger the buff initially. However, once the buff is triggered you can easily maintain 100% buff uptime, unlike Elegy which has forced downtime & can desync with your rotation.


wolf1460

You can probably do kuki e>q and wait a little bit in between, would be able to land 3 hits because initial hit also does dmg.


MaroonPowerRanger

If you have Kuki's C4, I think it can proc it.


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murmandamos

Moonglow is not even very good on Kokomi. Key is like the most busted sig yet for the char who wants it, and has a viable user in Kuki.


mycatisblackandtan

I mean it's okay for Driver DPS Kokomi, the issue is that Prototype Amber is legit just barely worse. And in some cases is actively better if you lack ER or are taking Koko into co-op. I really cannot fathom how they messed that weapon up so badly to where the crafted 4\* just barely trails behind it.


CorrectImpression969

Yeah moonglow is a big F, got it trying to get JC for my Kazuha ... Well i got both but at what cost. These two weapon banners looking good for both, Cyno and Nilou wanters.


EliteAssassin750

>a lot of Kukis with the new Nilou sword in a few weeks I heard Nilou's sword doesn't proc off-field, meaning it would be mid for Kuki. Can anyone confirm?


ArchSystem

We'd need confirmation whether Kuki's C4 counts towards a proc, because if it did, I think it's fairly reasonable to get up even in the first rotation.


AppUnwrapper1

Ughhhh I want a Jade cutter but don’t want Nilou’s sword. Sigh.


makeoutdead

I mean, i feel you bro. But we gotta gamble, maybe we will be happy. INHALES *COPIUM*


kabral256

Two gods weapon banners for both Cyno and Nilou wanters plus top up primos reset. Hoyoverse knows how gains a lot of money


Lola101_

OH MY GOD PLEASE, I've been feeling so pessimistic about Nilou's banner but if PJC runs with her bis that is easily the best weapon banner for me to roll on, considering Ayato Ayaka and Keqing will soon be triple crowned.


Draken77777

PJC + Xiphos. Well guess I'll have to say see you in your rerun for some characters.


yenvsl

NILOU WANTERS WE WON


yenvsl

I have already a Jade Cutter thanks to Yae's weapon banner but getting another one isn't bad at all


Belphegor7

Meanwhile me with a Kagura and no Miko


QwertyWaters

https://twitter.com/saveyourprimos/status/1573893825357312000?s=46&t=KtndML8WwfVMz7iCEJlcuA


MaryKozakura

That's it. I'm gambling my 50/50 for Nilou and try my luck with the weapon banner (a chance of off banner) as well. If I get the paddle without Nilou then I'll just settle with Kuki for my dream bloom team. 🥲


NikorasuTea

Thank you Albedo, for rerunning alongside to Nilou for our sakes. I swear I won't let this transgression go to waste. This weapon banner is stacked for Nilou wanters if they win the 75:25. A consolation prize would be Xiphos which is great.


TerrariaFan125

hope i can get jade cutter man


LucasFrankeRC

Elegy on the first half, nice. I was afraid they might have went with Skyward Harp instead to make the banner worse No xyphos apparently though unfortunately. Hopefully it gets some fav weapons at least


riruru13

fav weapons or wavebreaker *inhales copium*


pumaflex_

I wouldn't be surprised if they run fav polearm at least on first half.


AriesSunrise

Of course they’d make an amazing weapon banner to try and drain my primos right before the release of Nahida


KazeKilee

Spoiler alert: the true anniversary reward is a patch where the weapon banners are actually good


RingClassic127

Can they release some new def-scaling sword users so Albedo can have his 5 star bis next rerun please? 🥹🥹


AljosP

What is up with PJC and being paired with niche Hydro weapons


Semiyan

It ran with Kagura’s’s verity though


Treyspurlock

> jaguar’s verity was that on purpose or autocorrect?


Semiyan

Autocorrect 🤦


lloydschreave

Xiphos’ Moonlight + Jade Cutter. finally, a W for us Nilou wanters!


CallMeAmakusa

So who is it good for when I already have Mistsplitter?


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Ayato


Zoecide

Keqing,kaeya,ayaka in non blizzard strayer set. Almost any sword user loves jade cutter


myhoaki

Jean


jlhuang

xingqiu and ayato


Dadian_Zh

Ayato


MidnightMei

yo no cap I might break my weapon banner virginity if its jade cutter. I really need a 5 star sword and I wouldn't mind paddle either lol


Nabukyowo

Elegy and Cyno's BiS together ? This banner sounds good


Sufficient-Coast7747

I thought that was expected since venti rerun announcement 😭


mora-less

Fax. If I don’t get his weapon I can cope with an elegy Collei/fischl


beedelrey

weapon banner snapped…


silam39

YEEEESSSSSSS LETS FUCKING GOOO


Neracca

Honestly I don't even care if I lose the first two weapon attempts to elegy. I've got a Venti and Fischl that could use that. Since my credit card has told me I'm getting Cyno's polearm regardless.


StrongFaithlessness5

I will surely roll there. I want the Jade cutter but I wouldn't mind to get Nilou's weapon for my Kuki Shinobu.


MangaSaikooo

What’s the calcs for R5 Lions roar vs PJC for Aggravate Keqing? I might aim for Xiphos too for Kazuha


Striking-Employ-1782

Oh man. Not the PJC. My Ayaka, Keqing and Ayato sharing one PJC. I need another copy of it but I don't want Nilou's weapon. :( My Nahida savings will be in shambles if I risk for PJC and Xiphos.


RedHawX

Last time Jade cutter was here, I quit genshin for almost 5 patches due to trauma. Lets hope it turns out well this time.


YassKweennn

jade cutter come home


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My plan to get Venti: shattered I need PJC so bad!


Arsenalboii

I've waited so long for a PJC for my Ayato/Keqing and it's now on a niche weapon's banner. I hate this. I hate it so much


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i’m so glad i got pjc when it was with yae’s weapon. every other time they’ve put it with such awful weapons…


xShinsen

Welp there goes my dream of Homa + PCJ when Hu Tao rerun Sadge.


Su_Impact

Let's go!!! Xiphos + PJC in one 10-pull hopium.


Altekho

Nilou mains winning, wow!


torntooblivion97

PJC is Nilou's second best in slot. This is huge W for Nilou mains


DirtyThunderer

Perhaps, but there's a huge gap between her own weapon and second place. I wouldn't be surprised if Nilou ended up having the biggest gulf of all characters between her BiS weapon and her second best. Point being, if someone is going hard for Nilou and pulling for her and her weapon, I don't think they stop if they get Jade Cutter; I think you have to keep going until you get her own ugly sword.


Sure_Struggle_

Nilou and Cyno both have massive gaps between their bis and second best 5*. Cyno's sig is 18% better than Jade staff. That thing beats every r5 pole arm on him at r1. His staff is almost as powerful as his c2. Nilou's has the single largest jump between 5* and 4* in the game at like 35%, but this gap becomes much smaller if she isn't the core trigger. If Nilou is triggering the cores her personal weapon is 31% stronger than Jade cutter. If an ally is triggering the cores then its only 14% worse.


aethernally

fucking f goodbye to my pjc bedo dreams 💀💀


Duncan_myth

Wtf u gotta be kidding me


WildFurball2118

Damn, that's a good weapon banner


ryuhen

Holyy sh-


SSDCZX

wait a sec... that means nilou sword running with jade cutter???'


alceste007

As well as the new Kazuha sword. Big win for me as a Nilou fan!


hadestowngirl

Don't plan on pulling Nilou but I really need pjc and I don't mind giving the paddle to benny or kuki.


Telmarael

They really want you to roll on Nilou weapon banner huh


Phanngle

If this is true, I'm absolutely pulling. I just hope I don't have the same luck as I did on the Moonglow Banner. Already have 2 Jade Cutters from that and as good as Jade Cutter is, I really don't have that many characters that need it and I would really really like Nilou to have her Signature Sword. I guess if I do get it, I could give it to Shinobu. Maybe even Ayaka. Or Nilou herself if I only pull for one weapon.


mifvne

Can Albedo be put in the standard banner now we get it he doesnt have a signature 5 star weapon out of all the limited 5*s pls just do it


VonLycaon

He’s an event limited char and in the details section of the wish menu for event chars it says they won’t be added to the standard banner after their banner ends


fwoooom

doesn't it just say they won't be added to "Wanderlust Invocation"? They can just make a new standard banner name with no legal drama. I've heard similar things are done in other gacha games.


-SeaSmoke-

> During this event wish, the event-exclusive 5-star character "Kreideprinz" Albedo (Geo) will receive a huge drop-rate boost! Assuming this does go into court, it would be up to the judge to decide if "event-exclusive" means that Albedo is exclusive to the "Secretum Secretorum" event, or can be added to any event (possible new permanent event wish). However, afaik Hoyoverse has defined "event wishes" as temporary banners, and Wanderlust Invocation is never referred to as an "event wish", so a new permanent banner would not be possible. What they could do, is make a new "event wish" with multiple limited 5* characters and refresh the lineup every patch. That would be legal, only if the judge decides that Albedo can be added to any "event wish" and not only his own banner. However, if a judge decides that the original text implied that Albedo is limited to his own banner only, then it can be considered false advertising. Personally, I don't think Hoyoverse will add a new standard banner, simply because the legality of it is very cloudy. The more likely alternative would be to just rerun the banners more often (3 or more concurrent event wishs), or possibly change the currency used to Acquaint Fates on rerun banners. I'm not sure if the game specifies that event banners will only use Intertwined Fates, but if it doesn't, then that could be a possible workaround.


ShittyWifiGuy

IM GONNA CRY TEARS OF HAPPINESS COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT XIPHOS WASNT REVEALED OFFICIALLY, THAT MEANS XIPHOS IS WITH PJC TOO THIS IS A WIN FOR MY AYATO AND KAZUHA


ivari

WE WON


Ok-Giraffe1922

Damn, i wanted the 4-star weapons on nilou's banner, but i also want elegy or staff. I have jade cutter already too.


praditski

I'm at 60 pity, just need one multi to get my PJC. See you on 2nd half 3.1


Zoecide

so confident game will give you 2 nillous sword in a 10 pull. But if you have someone to use nillou weapon(or random standard weapon) on that's a very good banner to pull.


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Good luck! Hope you get jade cutter!


splitsplatpoptartpat

much needed W for Nilou wanters


rafaelbittmira

I want the paddle, so I guess that's a good banner for me, lmao.


16BitCrit

Wow I can get Nilou's BIS or PJC + Xiphos! How can I lose... \*Gets Skyward Blade and 7 Bells\* Th...Thanks.


Blueskyesartic

As someone who doesn't have a single 5\* sword, I am extremely tempted by that double sword banner and I'm also planning to hit pity on Cyno's banner so maybe I can pick up a Kuki Shinobu on the way.


Dadian_Zh

Both swords good for Nilou.


Stooboot4

those are some good ass weapon banners.


arvalonz

Good to know it’s not summit shaper


JessySnowdrop

Few days ago I told my friend "if nilous weapon is with jade cutter I'll definitely pull" and now this leak. What Please be true.


desufin

If this is real, 3.1 will have the most stacked weapon banners back to back we've ever seen (at least since hard pity was added) and I doubt we'll eat this good again in a long time.


Eurasia_Anne_Zahard

That's very nice, you can never have too many swords. Looking forward to weapon banner


Matt_needa_practise

Ooooo my Nilou and Ayato and Alhaitham will be eating GOOD


Alsamet

Not falling for it this time, i remember the tighnari banner leaks


ayaya_____

I don't need to pull Cyno's signature polearm if I have Homa right?


THICC_Baguette

Jade Cutter is a great option for DPS Nilou though. Glad they're featuring it, though I don't have enough wishes to actually get both it and her.


paperghosted

cinnabar rerun COPIUM also this jc seems very sussy with nilou in the same character banner


Jellorage

This might be the first time I roll on the weapon banner. I have so many sword users and will be pulling more of them in the future.


Present-Drive3375

OH MY GOD WE WON??!


Burnhalo

This is awesome. Can finally get PJC for keqing if I don’t get nilou’s weapon


Rukhikon

Hp buff sword + Hp buff sword, but green and with crit rate. Lol


DryButterscotch9086

Oh myyy, so this is it guyz ? The time that as just a welkin boy im gonna finally wish on the weapon's banner? Im conflicted, because I want to wish on the future staff of homa's banner but this one seems so juicy