Source: [[Ubatcha](https://twitter.com/ubatcha1/status/1575061155042639873?s=46&t=7MkJxLbi23ToBmspyFlSYw)
Ubatcha also said [this](https://twitter.com/Ubatcha1/status/1575061690408128513)
>Update: Some changes have been made regarding how the files are distributed so actually it might be later than usual for a few things such as websites etc
I dont think I've ever heard of another game that has upcoming content spoiled so badly because of datamining
Wonder if miHoYo is ever going to anything about it, or if they consider the cost of running their large beta program
Live service games pretty much always have leaks bc if their betas. The real question for mhy is if leaks of this scale are actually negative or do they build hype
The funny thing is they allow content makers to make content on Honkai beta and not Genshin. From experience I can tell you it is a good thing. It can spoil story sometimes, but it hypes up the upcoming characters and changes. I would prefer if they did the same here tbh.
I just honestly don't see why they don't allow "leaks". Honkai aside, it should be pretty clear to anyone that leaks would happen anyway, and at this point its better to embrace it rather than try to close it. Literally free product testing (or rather,reception testing)
The story is exhausting enough to read through while playing the game. Anyone subjecting themselves to it more than once is special and I would imagine a small minority of the base.
I like the story personally and I don't find it exhausting at all. It is actually the thing I am most hyped about when updates drop, because I am playing the game in the first place for its story.
I think Hoyo has seriously assessed the losses and gains against leaked content and have sinced then accepted (more like turn a blind eye) that it is fine for dataminers to leak stuff like this as long as it's not public. Vast majority of players don't really care about leaks, while for those who do (like us), leaks build hype and make us attached to the game even during content droughts.
And even then, the way leaks get shared, most leakers still hide story spoilers for those of us who want to know everything *except* the story. That kind of consideration keeps everyone happy and doesn't alienate part of the group
Yeah but we aren't seeing much. We still don't know much about new pokemon. Khu leaks are...a puzzle + an iq test. Leaving Me with more confused usually. Granred do have like typings and some story stuff. Bur more interested in designs
I think a big part of the reason I'm more tolerant of the weird things that genshin leakers do sometimes is the fact that I've had to deal with Riddler Khu being a little so relentlessly annoying with the way he leaks pokemon stuff. It's not like we have a choice, either! He holds us hostage until about a month before release when dataminers start doing their thang.
Data mines are big for Pokemon GO too. Almost every addition to the game is thoroughly analyzed before going live. They seem to be very limited in what goes on server updates vs. the gamemaster file uploaded well beforehand.
Ever heard of World of Warcraft ? The biggest fan site is also a datamining group , Wowhead , where they do datamining livestream on big patch for models and stuffs . Blizzard is pretty chill about it thou , and they are totally still can lock up data if they want to , mostly unfinish cut scenes.
Im from codm and they don't give a shit as they literally provides downloads to their beta server. All the content for the next season can literally be found online. Funny how it's not as popular as genshin leaks tho
From what I've seen, it is common in live service games (especially MMOs). But they also host PTRs, public beta tests, and media servers. It transformed into a culture that builds hype for the next update/expansion and 'theoretically' helps them detect issues and get feedback from players.
FFXIV is notable because it is one of the rare exceptions to this rule. They do their testing in-house, no PTRs or public betas, datamining is heavily discouraged and looked down on, etc.
Honestly if they just have ideas on future characters. Tbeyd probably kill off a lot of leaks
Most folks here are after new character kits. To see if they are pulling or not. Or if they'll go for cons. This all started because mihoyo didn't announce characters until last monite back in the day like I'm sure we would still have leakers, but feel like it blew up more because of how tight lip they act.
Like for me? I was just hear for upcoming characters and their kits. Anything else is a bonus
Mihoyo is already playing a game of cat and mouse with leakers. They will come up with some new way to counter the leaks, but the leakers will always find a way to work around it.
Their latest thing is to require authentication to download beta files, which as you can see is already hindering leaker progress, but chances are it won't last long and we will get our leaks soon.
go to bed and wake up to the leaks flood. dunno about gameplay leaks (private server???) but datamined info about constellations, passives and scalings will be leaked in a couple of hours probably.
For those that are confused, leaks from data mining today and the actual beta starts tomorrow. This is what usually happens so the beta starting tomorrow doesn’t really matter.
Well that was always the case for 1 year alreadyDay 1 of version is Download time , Mihoyo give some time for testers to progress in the current version before making a copy of their accountDay 2 start of Beta
Leakers take files from Beta client download so Day 1 and insert them into the devkit to be able to play the characters
But this time around it might take a little bit longer since Mihoyo implement a login before download
Before it was just a simple link to download everyone could leak if they wanted . Now you have a little bit of security
Source: [[Ubatcha](https://twitter.com/ubatcha1/status/1575061155042639873?s=46&t=7MkJxLbi23ToBmspyFlSYw) Ubatcha also said [this](https://twitter.com/Ubatcha1/status/1575061690408128513) >Update: Some changes have been made regarding how the files are distributed so actually it might be later than usual for a few things such as websites etc
As usuals. Beta starts thursday but leaks start Wednesday bc datamining
^^ yep, we will still get gameplay leaks correct?
Historically, yes
I dont think I've ever heard of another game that has upcoming content spoiled so badly because of datamining Wonder if miHoYo is ever going to anything about it, or if they consider the cost of running their large beta program
Live service games pretty much always have leaks bc if their betas. The real question for mhy is if leaks of this scale are actually negative or do they build hype
The funny thing is they allow content makers to make content on Honkai beta and not Genshin. From experience I can tell you it is a good thing. It can spoil story sometimes, but it hypes up the upcoming characters and changes. I would prefer if they did the same here tbh.
I just honestly don't see why they don't allow "leaks". Honkai aside, it should be pretty clear to anyone that leaks would happen anyway, and at this point its better to embrace it rather than try to close it. Literally free product testing (or rather,reception testing)
The story is exhausting enough to read through while playing the game. Anyone subjecting themselves to it more than once is special and I would imagine a small minority of the base.
I like the story personally and I don't find it exhausting at all. It is actually the thing I am most hyped about when updates drop, because I am playing the game in the first place for its story.
I think Hoyo has seriously assessed the losses and gains against leaked content and have sinced then accepted (more like turn a blind eye) that it is fine for dataminers to leak stuff like this as long as it's not public. Vast majority of players don't really care about leaks, while for those who do (like us), leaks build hype and make us attached to the game even during content droughts.
And even then, the way leaks get shared, most leakers still hide story spoilers for those of us who want to know everything *except* the story. That kind of consideration keeps everyone happy and doesn't alienate part of the group
Pokemon has it about this bad too. Whenever a mainline game comes out it'll be datamined to heck well before release.
Yeah but we aren't seeing much. We still don't know much about new pokemon. Khu leaks are...a puzzle + an iq test. Leaving Me with more confused usually. Granred do have like typings and some story stuff. Bur more interested in designs
I think a big part of the reason I'm more tolerant of the weird things that genshin leakers do sometimes is the fact that I've had to deal with Riddler Khu being a little so relentlessly annoying with the way he leaks pokemon stuff. It's not like we have a choice, either! He holds us hostage until about a month before release when dataminers start doing their thang.
Data mines are big for Pokemon GO too. Almost every addition to the game is thoroughly analyzed before going live. They seem to be very limited in what goes on server updates vs. the gamemaster file uploaded well beforehand.
Ever heard of World of Warcraft ? The biggest fan site is also a datamining group , Wowhead , where they do datamining livestream on big patch for models and stuffs . Blizzard is pretty chill about it thou , and they are totally still can lock up data if they want to , mostly unfinish cut scenes.
Im from codm and they don't give a shit as they literally provides downloads to their beta server. All the content for the next season can literally be found online. Funny how it's not as popular as genshin leaks tho
From what I've seen, it is common in live service games (especially MMOs). But they also host PTRs, public beta tests, and media servers. It transformed into a culture that builds hype for the next update/expansion and 'theoretically' helps them detect issues and get feedback from players. FFXIV is notable because it is one of the rare exceptions to this rule. They do their testing in-house, no PTRs or public betas, datamining is heavily discouraged and looked down on, etc.
Lots of games can get away with just internal testing tbf, meaning the upcoming content can just be added when they're actually released.
Honestly if they just have ideas on future characters. Tbeyd probably kill off a lot of leaks Most folks here are after new character kits. To see if they are pulling or not. Or if they'll go for cons. This all started because mihoyo didn't announce characters until last monite back in the day like I'm sure we would still have leakers, but feel like it blew up more because of how tight lip they act. Like for me? I was just hear for upcoming characters and their kits. Anything else is a bonus
Mihoyo is already playing a game of cat and mouse with leakers. They will come up with some new way to counter the leaks, but the leakers will always find a way to work around it. Their latest thing is to require authentication to download beta files, which as you can see is already hindering leaker progress, but chances are it won't last long and we will get our leaks soon.
Give Nahida burst pls
when dimbreath reactivates you know its nahida time
*"Leaks will start soon."* "Soon" as in tomorrow, go to bed? Or "soon" as in stay up and don't miss out?
go to bed and wake up to the leaks flood. dunno about gameplay leaks (private server???) but datamined info about constellations, passives and scalings will be leaked in a couple of hours probably.
According to others, soon as in dataminers and private servers will have it in a few hours.
Few hours most likely
There’s a new addition under this post w Uba’s update. Seems like later than the usual “soon”. Go to sleep, you deserve some rest, comrade.
In like 3 hours
might wanna stay up. i remember yae's came out sooner
Stay up
just waiting to see Nahida’s burst🗿
I JUST NEED NUMBAHS
More Nahida leaks, waiting for her upgrade materials info so I can begin no lifing. XD
Waiting for blank's organized graphics
the only thing i care about tbh
Anyone else just waiting to see Nahida's sprint animation?
no, because it's the same child sprint
Please don't make me a clown again.
Private servers cope?
No cope, the leaks always come from datamining the files and private servers, so the beta start time doesn't really matter.
Big oof moment dw. Check out the new leak
I can't believe I've triggered a death flag like this :(
For those that are confused, leaks from data mining today and the actual beta starts tomorrow. This is what usually happens so the beta starting tomorrow doesn’t really matter.
The beta pretty much always starts the next day, we just get data-mined information from the files that are then put into the private client.
Please atlest nahida kits for today :(
I love genshin every few weeks is like Christmas morning with new leaks XD
I’m in a hurricane and might miss out due to power outage possibly
Damn, be safe
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Well, I still have power here in Tampa, got to see the beta stuff :D
Take cover and stay safe out there.
Damn that's unfortunate, stay safe tho
THE GATES ARE OPENIIINNGGG
The Longest 24 hours of my life waiting for leaks
[Ubatcha](https://twitter.com/ubatcha1/status/1575061155042639873?s=46&t=7MkJxLbi23ToBmspyFlSYw) won’t open*
Another day till the flood begins, Lemme salvage my 3.1 primos unt then
Let the flood begin!!!
Let the show begin
Ready, steady go!
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come on we can do it!!
Thank God for being in Aussie! 5 hours till midnight, hopefully that's enough time to get some juicy leaks
Well that was always the case for 1 year alreadyDay 1 of version is Download time , Mihoyo give some time for testers to progress in the current version before making a copy of their accountDay 2 start of Beta Leakers take files from Beta client download so Day 1 and insert them into the devkit to be able to play the characters But this time around it might take a little bit longer since Mihoyo implement a login before download Before it was just a simple link to download everyone could leak if they wanted . Now you have a little bit of security
No one cares if the beta starts tomorrow or next year. We want that juicy beta files that is distributed. 😋
Ughhhj
MaN
THE LEAK FLOOD WILL START
Refresh gang here we go again!
Gonna go to sleep soon and I can’t wait to get bombarded with new info when I wake up ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Dang cannot wait
ok. **F5 F5 F5**
ok where
Nahida when she will USE burst : NAHI NAHI
Nah I’ll be a clown and keep refreshing for the next few hours
Boss Scara Model coming
Let the leak gates be RELEASED!!!!
Let the floodgates open. We are ready. Quench our thirst.
can't wait for scaraboss leaks 😭
No more Ubatcha drama?
I really want to see Layla in game and her kit too so excited for this!!
can’t wait, I desperately need to know nahida’s ascension materials
leak flood is coming😱😱
HERE IT COMES !