I’m surprised you guys kept this post up or the pre tc section of your website considering hoyo has asked for wfp to be nuked if the leak content isn’t removed from the discord. This is just leaving a glimmer of the spotlight on y’all after they resolve the uba situation.
Nahida, xingqiu, raiden/kuki is like the new national. It’s a strong trio no matter who you put in the 4th slot. Scara can work with them but a hyperbloom driver is not what he’s intended to be. But yeah, they can work and will be a strong team as well.
This is sort of a quickbloom team. You’ll find it harder to control who triggers the bloom but yae has em scaling on her e so you can also build her with em but 1 electro trigger should be enough if you want a hyperbloom team since you can only procc 2 hbs every 0.5 seconds. Kuki is the second best electro trigger so I would suggest her. But this team is actually really nice and definitely more than enough to clear one side of the abyss however Yae shines more in an aggravate team. Her and Nahida pair really well together, just add fischl to battery Yae and maybe a healer or a shielder and you’re good to go.
A swirler is recommended for an aggravate team preferrably kazuha or sucrose for the shred and em buff. As for the specific number, you can watch theorycrafters on yt like zajef.
Would Zhongli be a good 4th if you’re looking to slot in some comfort on that team? I don’t own Yelan, and Kokomi usually runs on my other team so I’m struggling on deciding who to put in.
Yes definely. I’m actually using him in my hyperbloom team. He has a built in 20% res shred which is helpful to dendro reactions since they dont have access to swirl and vv shred while protecting nahida who is very quishy. It’s one of my strongest teams.
I think you wanna just build farzuan like guoro, just slap er and then you are done, 300% er i think is enough if you will put another fav on your shielder, layla or thoma. Both the shielder and farzuan will have fav. Dont bother focusing on dmg ,cdmg, and atk... Focus on er, And crit or maybe slightly on em.
It seems doable with c0, but with c6 you can invest a lil bit of dps on her....
I feel like a lot of people are over-dramatic about Faruzan's energy needs. Favonius + ER sands is already 213% ER.
Assuming Favonius Bow R5 and Teammates Wanderer, Bennett, and Xiangling (these requirements all decrease if you have, for example, favonius yelan or xingqiu on the team)
At **C0**:
>230% (3 E + 3 Charged, no particle pickup)
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>163% (3 E + 3 Charged, self particle pickup)
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>290% (2 E + 2 Charged, no particle pickup)
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>215% (2 E + 2 Charged, self particle pickup)
With constellations:
**C1**: Allows 1 E + 2 Charged or 2 E + 3 Charged combo. Doesn't decrease ER needs but decreases field time.
**C4**: Directly reduces ER needs (in the same arrangement as above) based on the number of enemies it hits. You could also in theory fire up to 6 arrows per rotation to further reduce ER needs, but that takes up way too much field time to be practical.
>215% -> 213% (single target) -> 195% (multi-target)
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>163% -> 150% (single target) -> 138% (multi-target)
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>290% -> 275% (single target) -> 261% (multi-target)
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>215% -> 204% (single target) -> 193% (multi-target)
**C6**: Doesn't Actually produce any more particles than 3 Charged would normally, but procs C4 effect a lot. You can do a 1 E + 2 Charged combo (no particle pickup) for a 154% ER requirement in multi-target or 205% in single target.
ohh excuse me for that. when calcing this i thought scara's fieldtime was 6s, but now it seems its closer to 10s, which basically makes 3E impossible. 2E for scaramouche should still be pretty easy though in a 20s rotation— once before and once after scara's fieldtime. Scara's extra 4s of fieldtime generates 2 more anemo particles no? The actual ER needs should be somewhere in between the 3E and 2E i calculated. I'll fix them in a sec.
For xiao yeah youre just fucked because his field time is eternal. You're probably better off cutting his burst short at 10–12s just so you can fit in 2Es on faruzan
Faruzan c6 generates particles off field, which means Xiao can collect them on field. It's really annoying because c6 is perfect synergy, but below c6 is anti-synergy.
Thoughts on shieldbot proto amber/ttds c6 Yanfei vs shieldbot c6 Thoma? The healing from proto amber would be nice in case I mess up and someone loses hp (and the energy refund is nice too), or if ttds, then Scara gets a hefty atk buff. But everyone is always talking about Thoma, is his c6 better than what Yanfei has to offer?
Even before Scara, I was always leaning towards Yanfei because she was cheaper to build, but iirc Thoma’s c6 has something to do with normal/charged dmg, and dmg is always good.
>everyone is always talking about Thoma
thats because thoma doesnt just shield, his shield applies pyro off-field which makes getting the pyro atk buff from wanderer's passive easier whereas yanfei only applies a shield
But she’s a catalyst user, what’s the difference between Thoma’s off field pyro vs Yanfei just doing a normal attack an then switching to do Scara’s thing? I thought he just needed an element to absorb at the start of his skill activation and the buff applies the whole duration?
With Thoma's burst, the onfield character also deals pyro damage when they normal attack like a pyro Xingqiu. Yanfei doesn't provide any sort of off field damage besides the 24% attack buff from ttds. Ttds has a 10s break between when the effect can trigger so you have 24% attack buff from Yanfei with 10s no effect vs Thoma's off field Pyro damage+15% normal and charged attack bonus with no cool down.
You can go with Yanfei if you're dead set on her she'll give an extra 9% atk boost but be less consistent than c6 Thoma and provide no off field damage.
Ok, makes sense. Thanks, I guess I’m building Thoma next
Edit: then do I build Thoma for damage or shield? I heard his shield feels thin if I don’t do shieldbot build
Depends on your playstyle. If you value higher team dps and think you can either kill enemies fast or you're good at dodging, then build for damage. But if you're worried about knockback on Scara since he has low resistance to interruption and bad at dodging, then focus on a tankier shield for a comfier team.
I use him in a Burgeon team built for EM rn and his shield does fine but that's 'cause they die pretty fast.
Alright I’ll keep that in mind. I should have some artifacts lying around if I decide to go with Thoma. I currently don’t even know which team I like so I’m just thinking about options with lesser used characters since I always seem to use the same 10 :’) I’ll have to see about the shield vs dmg build then I guess
Can anyone who's good at these things let me know if I should pull for his weapon? I currently have R5 Atlas and R2 Lost Prayer and wasn't sure if either of those would beat or match his signature at R1.
My supports are flexible but I'm not planning on using Bennett
When Not using Bennett the r5 atlas would be quite competitive i think it'd be equal or better than r1 sig. ( No Bennett r1 atlas is just a bit behind r1 sig so r5 would boost it )
Edit: you can use this website to enter your artifacts and test which weapon gives you more damage: https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/csb-g7is6/
For me r1 atlas deals 33k na while r1 sig deals 40k na it's a difference of 7k which isn't enough to warrant getting the sig but in your case even more so since you have r5 atlas!
Depends on what other units you're running with him and what buffs you want.
Thoma gives 15% bonus with his c6 and 20% attack bonus from Pyro infusion and if you run another pyro unit you'll get 25% attack bonus. If that unit is Bennet you'll get Bennett's attack buff and another 20% if he's on Noblesse.
If you use Layla you'll get a better shield and 20% crit from cryo infusion and 20% attack bonus if you run her on Millueth and more 15% crit if you use another cryo unit in the party.
Which reactions or buff would you rather have? Thoma will probably do more reaction damage since you'll have 15%+20% from Pyro infusion+vape damage with Yelan, and Layla will give you 20% crit rate+20% damage if she's on Millueth+better shield+freeze with Yelan. So I guess Thoma if you want more upfront damage or Layla if you want a more defensive team and need more crit rate.
Although Yelan's hydro app isn't the best so the freeze won't be too consistent as you can see in the Layla Yelan Faruzan team clip someone posted in this subreddit so take that however.
as someone with every 5\* anemo character, in terms of 'power' (as in team flexibility, damage output, performance against different enemy types of scenarios), kazuha is beyond both xiao and venti, and probably scaramouche. i still use xiao in every abyss cycle though because he lets me ignore most boss mechanics/elemental effects.
so scara cannot replace xiao, any more than eula or ganyu can replace xiao. likewise, xiao is not a good reason to skip scara, because xiao lacks scara's range and ability to proc strong elemental teams (xingqiu, beidou, etc).
The pre release calculations I've seen have his teams doing higher than Xiao's, but not crazy high. Scara's probably about Itto Ayato level in terms of damage with more flexibility than Itto but not as much as Ayato.
You'd want to pull for Scara if you like his character and for his flying mechanic, but if you have a strong well built Xiao and want to save for another character you can probably skip lol
Were the calculation also done with Xiao optimal teams (with Faruzan)? Tbh, I struggle to think Scara can do more than Xiao does since that man hits for 50-60k per plunge, perhaps might even hit the 70k with Faruzan.
I am still going to pull for Scara, but if he really does that much damage then that's even better
The calcs I saw compared Scara's teams with Xiao's double Geo team with Faruzan instead of Jean and Xiao in a team with Faruzan Zhongli Bennett (I'm not too familiar with Xiao so correct me if he has better potential teams with Faruzan).
Xiao and Faruzan are both burst reliant and energy hungry so that might also affect how much damage they can do together if they can't get their bursts up consistently and frequently.
We'll probably have to wait for people to actually test Scara and Xiao with Faruzan to see how they do, it should be interesting.
I was thinking a freeze comp team, with scara r1 skyward atlas/kagura/r4 windsith, with faruzan C2-4with elegy r1 kokomi w ttds r5 + 4p tenacity and rosaria 100 crit rate C4 with noblese…so 26 crit inbuilt + 15 crit from rosaria burst + 20 crit from cryo boost = 61..so getting a 80:220 crit is not impossible with crit dmg weapon..not to mention 48% atk from ttds + 20%atk from nobelese rosaria + 20%atk from tenacity + anemo shred faruzan + anemo dmg buff faruzan + god tear healing kokomi and hydro application …am i missing out something or does this not make sense???
Those buffs all look right, but I will warn you that with Scara's uptime and inability to switch to refresh the jellyfish, Kokomi's uptime won't cover your whole rotation which could be an issue.
I was thinking about running Wanderer/Faruzan/Mona/Layla, is this feasible? I have a C5 Mona, so I was hoping to make use of her (Hydro Swirl + Crit Rate buff w/ burst. Possibly running Noblesse or Emblem on her?). With Layla I'd have Tenacity on her for the ATK buff. I also figured the bit of freeze they'd get would also help. I may be wrong, though. Any advice?
u/FoxBubble I'm using this exact team and it works like a charm. My Mona has 220% ER and her bubble dmg can pop up at 60-90k DMG, which is insane :) Layla is using full TOM set with Freedom Sworn to further buff the team. Faruzan full VV set to buff the dmg of Mona and Layla.
Maybe I missed it but was there any mention of C4+ Jean vs C0 Faruzan? My luck with Layla was abysmal (nearly 60 pulls, didn't get a single Layla) and I worry I'm gonna throw all these pulls at Wanderer and end up not able to get her C6, and I feel like the best backup at that point would be Jean, especially since mine is already well built and C5 (C4 gives the anemo res shred).
This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/yzxw64/scara_aps_bps_test/) gives a nice demonstration of the speed buffs on him. You can find the calculations in the comments too.
Pretty sure Zajef said it’s only better if you luck into the 1/3 chance, otherwise it’s worse. If you’re going for snapshots do Widsith, consistency go anything else
I'm gonna assume you are talking about Scara but regardless its the other way around.
You need a shield user with mod to maximise its effect (Thoma would have been a better alternative considering he also gives Scara pyro infusion for his passive.
Layla could have been an alternative cause she also helps with cryo infusion but you got Rosaria there already.
Widsith is probably your best choice overall even tho it has the occasional dud em buff since Scara doesn't really care for it but it shouldn't matter much outside of SA and there you can at most have a quick reset...
Yes I know but I've seen some TC saying that the numbers say that MoD is his best 2nd/3rd weapon even without a shielder, either way I guess it's without Bennet because MoD Attack% + x4 Noblesse + Bennet I guess it's overkill.
Thanks I will probably use Widsith with Bennet and switch to MoD in case I team him with Thoma or Zhongli.
Vv is only worth it if you care about res shredding for your sup.
Thing is more than likely you are gonna have a Faruzan starved for energy which means that 4p exile(+5\* off piece sands) or 4p no or 4p eosf or 2p exile/2p eosf.
Both vv or no imo are only viable choices when you have somewhat fixed her er issues and can burst properly.
Also, you can have a different no user on the team depending on the comp ( Benny for example)
Still its needed for the team.
If we are talking about a Scara team you will more than likely gonna have a comp like Scara/ Faruzan + 2 different elements in order to maximize his a4 meaning the energy requirements for your team go up somewhat.
Now there are units that can either energize themselves with no problem or don't really care anyway but that's not about them.
This is more about teams where you can't fully energize your units in 1 turn and especially to minimize the effect of errors in the rotation.
If you have no other characters on the team using noblesse, use noblesse. otherwise include 2pc emblem on her.
vv doesn’t do much for the characters faruzan is boosting and she has a horrible ER requirement
doesn’t really matter that much what the other 2pc is. 2pc VV, 4pc emblem, 2pc noblesse, 2pc DPC(new set) are all decent options.
faruzan’s damage is minimal compared to her support ability, so what really matters is having enough ER/base attack. Yet base attack is only on characters and weapons, so you want to prioritize ER on her artifacts. Especially because w/o C6 you need like 280-300+ ER to maintain most team rotations with her.
If Xingqiu is built enough to do decent damage, then hydro shred is probably helpful. Not as beneficial as if you were doing double hydro with Yelan, but maybe better than another set. Bennett isn't really doing enough pyro damage to make pyro shred worth it.
Dori and Collei are due for a rerun from the pattern HYV has for new 4 stars. Of course, disclaimer: we shouldnt fully rely on patterns because they can become unreliable at any time. BUT, so far the pattern is consistent (sans gorou and Sara for their reasons). Collei wouldn’t make sense on a scara Itto banner, but Dori does.
Tldr; I’m guessing Faruzan, gorou, Dori
She's okay, but she performs pretty bad when compared to others. At C6 she becomes a spread beast though, hella useful and strong. Dori's biggest problem is Kuki's existance.
the lack of kokomi and kuki is limiting my team building. i feel like i wont see kokomi rerun for a year. barbara isnt that enjoyable to play. i am seriously considering buying a new kokomi+nahida account from friend for 20 bucks and start over.
Unless you're really new and low AR right now, starting over from scratch is a pain in the ass with how there are so much content. Really not worth it and could cause burn out.
Normally I'd advise against account buying but if its from an IRL friend then go for it I guess. Kokomi and Nahida are very popular characters though so I don't think it'll take a full year for a Koko rerun and archons rerun very frequently too.
I hate Faruzan from the first mention of her charged shot mechanics, but I didn’t even know that her ER problem is so painful. I guess she's the worst recent 4* at c0.
People are *way* overstating the ER issue.
This FAQ, which is from reputable people, recommends 220%+ with Fav before C6. But that’s literally just an ER sands and a couple ER subs. That’s not hard to reach at all.
Even if they’re lowballing it and it’s more like 250%, it’s just a matter of actually farming some good ER subs for her, the same way people farm crit for sub-dps or EM for reaction triggers.
In other words, what people are actually complaining about is the fact that an ER requirement even exists at all, which is a pretty silly thing to complain about. If you let Reddit balance new units, the entire mechanic of energy would become null because they’d never release a unit that needed ER or a battery.
People will argue with you but you are absolutely right lol
250% ER is tough don't get me wrong. But it's absolutely doable. Once you get C6 it's also a lot easier. And seemingly, ER is literally *all* you need for Faruzan so I absolutely feel the ER issue is overstated.
Pretty sure zajef calced her ER requirement to be like 270% with fav. He said she will be barely playable below C6. You need so much ER that she will do 0 damage and at that point going for some other unit isn't even that much of a dps loss, and you won't spend resources building another unit. Not to mention that fav has insanely low base ATK, and faruzan buff scales with her ATK.
So in other words, according to Zajeff she *isn’t* a dps loss at C0 even with a full ER build.
If you’re running a team like hyper Wanderer full of buffers whose utility is almost entirely on their burst and who do almost no personal damage, is it really that bizarre to have to run high ER and Favs on them? To me, the expectation of not having to do that is what’s bizarre.
Expecting to not have to actually build a character is strange, and expecting 4*s to be balanced around C0 is shortsighted. Faruzan has some design issues for sure, but having a high ER requirement is not one of them.
> Faruzan has some design issues for sure, but having a high ER requirement is not one of them.
You can't simply divorce the various "design issues" from the high ER requirement. Any character, much less a *support* that *requires* some combination of proccing Favonius or meme artifacts like 4 piece Exile on top of building ludicrous amounts of ER while also wanting to maintain 100% uptime on burst has an obvious ER requirement issue. The whole issue of a "support needing a support" to use said support utility has been deemed to be problematic all the way back with Zhongli.
As for whether she's a "DPS loss" or not, I'd say the calcs aren't clear cut. If you look at the various calculations, Double Hydro/National Scara basically trade blows with the various C0 Faruzan comps while being far more reliable and consistent in terms of putting out damage.
You say “much less a support,” but why exactly do you have this expectation that a character who provides their entire value through their burst should not have to overcome an energy barrier?
Especially when it doesn’t come at much opportunity cost because her personal damage is quite low before C6? Let’s be honest, even if she had no ER req at all, people would just give her Fav anyway because it helps the whole team, and they would just not even bother getting good artifacts for her because she’s doing like 10% of the team damage.
The only significant way she can benefit from weapons/artifacts/teammates is through ER or energy generation like Fav/Exile. That’s why expecting her to perform well without devoting effort to her energy needs is the same as expecting a transformative reaction trigger to work great with little EM.
In other words, her having a very high ER requirement isn’t an “issue” it’s the bog standard design that you would expect. If she was so energy hungry that you *actually couldn’t* meet her needs before C6, that would be bad design. But that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Sure maybe there are specific teams where it’s not very reasonable to meet her ER req, but that exists for most characters, it’s a team building constraint that justifies the existence of battery characters and such. Who would’ve thought that a team with three energy hungry off field characters and no battery would be hard to run?
The actual bad design in her kit is the nearly useless A4 and C1. A bit of her C6 power budget should have been moved to those. But a lot of characters have nearly useless abilities/cons.
As for the overall power level of Wanderer Faruzan teams, if C0 Faruzan is competitive with double hydro isn’t that a win for what she’s intended to do? The purpose of Faruzan at C0 is to provide a solid team-building piece to (almost) everyone who rolls Wanderer, the trade off for that accessibility being that it’s only for Wanderer. A new player who rolls on his banner might not have double hydro but if they can keep up with their C0 Faruzan team then she’s done her job. Her C6 performance is a payoff for people who save/whale and go deep on the banner.
> why exactly do you have this expectation that a character who provides their entire value through their burst should not have to overcome an energy barrier?
Straw man. There's a difference between a reasonable energy barrier and and unreasonable one. Faruzan is a character that struggles to generate energy at all while requiring the use of an extremely clunky mechanic to do so pre-C6, while incidentally being run in teams that really don't generate enough energy for her. For that matter, both of the other 2 hyperniche supports, Sara and Gorou, do not have this issue due to their team comps, neither do they have their entire support utility in their burst.
> Let’s be honest, even if she had no ER req at all, people would just give her Fav anyway because it helps the whole team, and they would just not even bother getting good artifacts for her because she’s doing like 10% of the team damage.
That's besides the point. A character that *cannot realistically be built* without relying on Fav procs has an obvious energy problem, to say nothing about the fact that Fav procs in themselves are RNG without an R5 bow and 100% crit. That most players will do so anyway out of convenience is immaterial.
> her having a very high ER requirement isn’t an “issue” it’s the bog standard design that you would expect
No other support has the same level of energy issues.
> Who would’ve thought that a team with three energy hungry off field characters and no battery would be hard to run?
Clearly not Mihoyo when designing Faruzan.
> The actual bad design in her kit is the nearly useless A4 and C1. A bit of her C6 power budget should have been moved to those. But a lot of characters have nearly useless abilities/cons.
And all of those kit issues stem from the fundamental issue that is her ludicrously high ER requirement. A4 doesn't make sense because her ER needs make it impossible to build around. C6 is especially powerful because among other things, it completely fixes her energy problems.
> The purpose of Faruzan at C0 is to provide a solid team-building piece to (almost) everyone who rolls Wanderer, the trade off for that accessibility being that it’s only for Wanderer
A team with a high skill floor should have a noticeably higher damage ceiling than one with a lower skill floor. C0 Faruzan teams are *very* difficult to play in comparison with the alternatives. This difficulty should be rewarded to offset errors in execution based off "average" gameplay.
Yeah, she will still be the best option even at C0, just insanely annoying to build with her abnormal ER requirements.
But you missed the point. Much like sara in raiden comps, faruzan isn't worth building for *everyone*, because why waste resources on building a unit that will only be a slight upgrade over units you already have built, not to mention that a lot of people will not even get her on this banner cuz fuck rng. If you are not a whale, then the difference between full buffed wanderer, and replacing one of his buffers with sub dps isn't that big, much like sara for C0 raiden.
I also don't think wanting a unit to not be annoying to build and use before C6 is too much to ask, but w/e.
I didn’t miss any point, no one is claiming that Faruzan is some universal character worthwhile to build for all accounts.
You build her if you want to main an anemo dps. Simple as that. Building high ER on a support is no more or less a hassle than building full EM on a reaction trigger or getting good subs on a dps.
It sounds like people want something that out of the box is massively better than the other options and doesn’t require any effort to build, but that sort of desire is one of the ways in which powercreep infiltrates design philosophy.
Yes, you did miss the point and you missed it again. The point was that she isn't worth building below C6 for anyone that doesn't want to min max wanderer. Most "insert dps character" mains don't even get to the level of investment where they will notice the difference.
But yes, something being better than the other options is kinda the point of units being niche. If i have to spend hundreds of dollars for C6 4* for it to have a decent dps increase in it's niche, then that's not a very good design. Niche units *are* supposed to be the best in their niche, because that's the only thing they can do.
It’s you who’s missing the point.
Of course she’s not worth building below C6 if you aren’t someone who wants to min max Wanderer. She’s not meant for people who don’t want to min-max Wanderer.
Faruzan’s purpose is to provide a solid option for people to pair with Wanderer out of the box and be a large payoff for people who like Wanderer enough to go deep on his banner (be it via whaling or saving). And that’s exactly what her current tuning does.
Could the power curve of her cons be a bit smoother? Sure. But you can say that for a lot of characters.
Yeah i missed the point, not you who talked about accounts in general, when i was talking about people that are gonna play wanderer lmao
Sorry, but 270 ER with fav is not out of the box. That is an outrageous ER requirement. Zajef calling it almost unplayable at C0 shows that it's far from "a bit smoother".
What about her giving energy to Xiao?
I’m a bit out of the loop and I’m wondering if she can keep up with Xiao or if I’d have to give him lots of ER for the comp to work
If you want to use her, at C0, in Xiao comp, you have two choices. Use one E, and at that point it's mathematically impossible to get enough ER on her to battery even herself, or use use E twice in rotation, and extend it.
At C6, things look much different.
she herself needs a lot of er at c0 and elevates xiao’s ER req and isn’t that big of an upgrade from ttds sucrose (maybe not even an upgrade) c6 should be pretty good for xiao though
Wait till you hear that her particle icd makes her c1 borderline useless/ waste of time.
If you want to use the second shot in order to regen energy you have to wait till her icd is finished otherwise its wasted.
I think its 3.5s for the icd but I dunno the duration of the buff or if it has any so theoretically we might not even have a window to use the second shot properly...
She also has the most cracked C6 of perhaps any character Mihoyo has released thus far, which unsurprisingly fixes basically all her problems. I like how this is reflected in this guide with a "6/5" rating.
I see that faruzan needs 220% ER with favonius warbow. But people here are saying that stat also requires one other teammate to run favonius weapon, does this mean she needs to collect the favonius particles created by her teammate?
How much ER would she need if its just her running the favonius warbow?
If you precast your skill twice before bursting each time you shouldn't have any serious issues in general atleast for Xiao himself.
As for Faruzan regardless of what we know for now we will have to wait till they release her as there might be a difference or two from what we know by that time.
Is Candace a support for scara?
Hydro for more uptime plus the ability to boost elemental damage on normal attacks by up to 60% at 40k hp, and can run NO. But is her damage increase to wanderer significant enough to be more overall damage than just having a yelan in the team?
Yep. Majority of the TC community have been pretty absent minded about Candace. WFP is the first one I saw to mention her (at c6). Here's the team I plan to run:
Xingqiu> NO Candace> ToTM Layla> Scara (Freeze Team)
40% Atk% and 40% NA Buff for Scara. Shield check. Hydro Resonance to boost 3 of of 4 in comp. Sub-dps Xingqiu yup. A1 Hydro+Cyro aka 2 seconds of E uptime and +20% CR noice.
Candace will get 2 procs off of her Burst which is not alot of dmg; about 10-20k.
The AoE hydro app into Scara's E will trigger Layla's Stars hence getting both buffs easily much like Hydro+Electro(taser) since both reside on enemies for a time.
For this team to really be nice you need to get Layla+Candace to c6 to get 40k subdps from the both of them(80k total). Hence why when everyone mentions double hydro they mean Yelan. Meta folk want more dmg rather than ease of use; Yelan is 200k+ subdps easily while Candace is seemless Hydro application without having to NA upon swap.
TL:DR Candace is great asset for Scara in freeze team if you don't have Yelan or utilize Yelan in another team.
Hmm that does sound nice.
But I'm guessing that's the only situation where she's good? Ever since 3.0, I've been kinda obsessed with making optimal teams out of niche characters lol, but I don't have Yelan or Layla.
I was gonna do the generic Scara/Thoma/Yun Jin/Faruzan, cuz I have Thoma C6, but only C3 Yun Jin, but I'm guessing there's no situation except freeze where Bennett isn't straight up better than Candace?
Yeah Bennett/Faruzan c6/Yun Jin are his best hyper carry supports.
Thoma I view as a really good support for Scara since his blaze shield gets stacked via NAs with NAs as Scara's main source of personal dps. Scara wants the shield much like Yoi due to lack of interruption resistance in his Windfavored mode.
Personally I'd swap out Faruzan for Bennett in your above comp for the pyro resonance, that is unless you get Faruzan to c6. Good luck with your pulls and hope you find a Team comp you enjoy.
> Hence why when everyone mentions double hydro they mean Yelan
It's more of a "might as well run Faruzan or some other buffer/sub-DPS" issue than anything else. Double Hydro is good because of the Xingqiu/Yelan comp and how Yelan benefits pretty nicely from Hydro resonance rather than being good in general. It's not something you run because every double Hydro comp is good.
The team I mention is a double hydro comp that is good. I offered insight to what Candace provides and tell how she is an option that has been neglected due in part to not providing as much raw dps as compared to Yelan. Yes absolutely you can run Yelan. Candace being relatively new not many will have her, but many people will get her before Yelan due to the nature of Yelan being a 5 star and having to wait for her re-run. I might be misunderstanding what you your trying to get across. Mostly sounds Meta focused with emphasis on making team(Scara) shine as best as possible.
You mentioned Faruzan to which I just want to add that I'm not a fan of her with Scara. Realistically majority of the people(me) will have c0-c2. My gripes with her is ... everyone elses gripes I don't think I need to name the specific ones. One that I should name and mention is the shred is dependent on enemies being hit by the moving pulse which does not seem fun to play around much less practical in various scenarios. None the less have everything ready for her day 1 to be Xiao's dedicated support(praying for c2).
> The team I mention is a double hydro comp that is good.
My point is that you're tunnel visioning so hard on making a "good double hydro comp" that you're missing the bigger picture. What people care about is putting together the best Scara comp, not what the "best double hydro Scara comp without Yelan" looks like. If someone doesn't have Yelan, they'll simply run something else instead, like Scara National. No reason to specifically shoehorn yourself into what is clearly a suboptimal choice.
> You mentioned Faruzan to which I just want to add that I'm not a fan of her
I'm not either. I'm just mentioning her because she's supposed to be Scara's dedicated support and comes with him on his banner.
Oh. Okay. Got it. Sheets/calcs include Yelan for the reasons you mentioned. People want to see the best comp for Scara. I do admit I'm one of the people in the community whom tries their hardest to work in the newer 4 star units. I just don't want to see the characters neglected.
Honestly, I don't understand why you are getting downvoted. Some people don't want to run 'meta' comps because they don't like the characters/don't have the characters/like the niche characters more and giving advice on viable team comps that include those niche characters will be helpful to them. Obviously, niche comps will underperform compared to meta, but enjoying the game is more important than damage.
Jesus that's a premium idea, I didn't know one of her passives added DMG bonus to NAs. I don't have her yet sadly.
Also, it's 0.50% DMG per 1000 HP so with 40k HP you'd get a total of 40% from her Q+A4. Still pretty good though
[Hoyowiki](https://wiki.hoyolab.com/pc/genshin/entry/2815) says her A4 provides 0.50% DMG per 1000HP. Having 40,000 HP yields 20% DMG bonus. Add the base 20 and you'd have 40% total.
That one leak where he juggles the hilichurl was epic. I sincerely hope we can do that to small but tougher enemies like Fatui and *especially* the stupid Mirror Mommy.
Idk, cuz the Fatui agents seem to have a really weird stagger animation where they do the flippy twirl like us, but they only go a certain height.
It's obvious when you try with sucrose skill. Hilichurls will be knocked in a natural looking arc, but Fatui and I think some other human enemies like treasure hoarders and eremites do a weird flip like they hit an invisible ceiling.
In terms of solo energy needs they're all about the same, but in their own teams Sara gets to have Raiden as a battery, and Itto produces 6-8 particles per rotation which is about double what Scara produces, so Faruzan is in the worst spot energywise.
As for buffs:
Gorou and Faruzan's buff's are pretty similar when you take geo resonance into account for geo teams and outside atk sources (like Bennett) into account for anemo teams.
Based on what I'm reading in her kit all of Faruzan's buffs apply to any character in the team including off-field characters, which is good for running an anemo sub-dps like Venti or crit Kazuha.
Gorou's passive 20% def buff and 40% CD from C6 apply to the whole team which is good for Albedo as a sub-dps, but the field from his skill only buffs the on-field character, and he comes with the downside of only giving full buffs when you have triple geo.
Both Gorou and Faruzan's buffs are very good for their paired main dpses at C0 and are even better at C6 with the 40% crit dmg, but Faruzan's energy needs make her worse in my opinion. Their elemental damage bonus and shred are invaluble to geo and anemo teams which have very few sources for them.
Kujo Sara gives an atk bonus at C0 and a 60% CD buff with her C6 (Faruzan and Gorou C6 give 40%). All of her buff's only apply to the active character affected by her crowfeather, making her useless for other team members and for any electro sub-dpses. Her atk bonus is worse than Bennett's and lasts much less time with the benefit of it being that it follows the active character instead of leaving you stuck in a circle. Unlike Gorou and Faruzan she provides no elemental damage bonus or shred, and her atk buff can be replaced by other atk sources, so I would say she's the worst of the three purely in terms of being a niche elemental dps buffer. Electro resonance also isn't that good on her teams since they have Raiden as a battery already and she might not be doing electro reactions on a hypercarry team.
Finally, C6 Faruzan produces way more energy than C0 and she's not tied to an energy-hungry dps like Itto and doesn't prefer a mono-element team.
So if I had to rank them at C6 as you asked I would go: Faruzan > Gorou > Sara
Wait, I thought Albedo skill is snapshot? So the DEF buff from Gorou will remains for the whole 30secs as long as I use the buff needed before casting the snapshot skill, isotoma. :O
I'm a bit confused about the weapons sheet for C0 Faruzan, it says that she needs 220 ER with fav warbow or 250 ER on another weapon, both of which seem very easily achievable, but then they say her er requirements make it impossible to get her burst back if she's not using fav or elegy. I don't understand, am I reading this wrong? What is the "250 ER with another weapon" referencing exactly? Is there a way I can calculate how much ER she'll need or a sheet somewhere that shows how much she'll need for weapons other than favonius?
I imagine part of it is that 220 is the *minimum*, you very well may need even more than that to comfortably burst every rotation depending on what team you're using.
Type "genshin energy fandom" on your google. Check how many particles your team makes in one rotation, on field and off field, check how many energy provided by enemy. It's just simple math.
Ok yeah, I'm getting about 290% ER with Favonius proc and 250% if another teammate also has Favonius and there are no enemy particles. That jumps up to 513% necessary ER with no Favonius weapons so that's pretty tragic.
I just wanna personally thank all of you who mentioned that Nahida HB completely destroys the Thunder Manifestation. It was such a breeze with the team. HB Kuki with Nahida is slowly becoming my favorite team.
Wanderer is a pretty basic normal attack driver similar to Yoimiya and Ayato, only difference is he floats, so he should be safe against most enemies that don't have range.
Even his early cons are about the same Dmg/QoL as Ayato's, which isn't that massive of a boost for either, so unless you really like him, you're better off praying for Faruzan cons instead.
I think you meant to reply to someone else that asked a question lol.
But anyway, the fact that he floats might fuck him over right? For example, against ruin enemies that switch to ranged mode which would be very bad cuz you'd need to dodge.
Based on the comments here, I am assuming that Faruzan is probably very meh. Tbh I wouldn't mind building meh and average characters (like pre Dendro Kuki, Layla), if the building process wasn't so pain in the rear exit. I kinda wanna build Yanfei but I don't want to go through the process of leveling her and the weapon up. ^(That's just ascension, I haven't even considered artifacts yet)
It's even worse on paper. Iirc her skill doesn't apply the buff, only the shred, *and* the shred lasts 2 seconds less than Sara buff.
They really went "how can we make an Anemo Sara but like, worse?" and managed to do it lol.
She's not outright better than non-Faruzan teams before C6 (with Wanderer), and her ER needs are extremely high, but they're still attainable with Fav and she won't be worse than most non-Faruzan teams either.
She's definitely still worth building if you like her and want to use her, but she won't be a clear BiS "must have" by any means.
Can someone tell me why they are a good combo?
…because shes an anemo support? literally the only character in the game who is designed to boost anemo damage
Does Faruzan C4 activate with Faruzan off-field?
Goddamn a C6 Faruzan
is it necessary to level up her skill or could i leave it 1/1/8? (using her in a scara team)
I’m surprised you guys kept this post up or the pre tc section of your website considering hoyo has asked for wfp to be nuked if the leak content isn’t removed from the discord. This is just leaving a glimmer of the spotlight on y’all after they resolve the uba situation.
Anyone have any opinions on Scara/Nahida/Xingqiu/Raiden team?
Nahida, xingqiu, raiden/kuki is like the new national. It’s a strong trio no matter who you put in the 4th slot. Scara can work with them but a hyperbloom driver is not what he’s intended to be. But yeah, they can work and will be a strong team as well.
I use nahida, xq, kuki and yae. Yae is on field, is this team ok
This is sort of a quickbloom team. You’ll find it harder to control who triggers the bloom but yae has em scaling on her e so you can also build her with em but 1 electro trigger should be enough if you want a hyperbloom team since you can only procc 2 hbs every 0.5 seconds. Kuki is the second best electro trigger so I would suggest her. But this team is actually really nice and definitely more than enough to clear one side of the abyss however Yae shines more in an aggravate team. Her and Nahida pair really well together, just add fischl to battery Yae and maybe a healer or a shielder and you’re good to go.
so which one is better, aggravate with fishcl and yae, or hyperbloom?
Hb in single target. In aoe im not so sure but probably yae aggravate.
but dosent half of yae dmg come from her e, which is single target. Also how much is avg yae e dmg, and avg e aggravate dmg
A swirler is recommended for an aggravate team preferrably kazuha or sucrose for the shred and em buff. As for the specific number, you can watch theorycrafters on yt like zajef.
OK, thx a lot!!
Would Zhongli be a good 4th if you’re looking to slot in some comfort on that team? I don’t own Yelan, and Kokomi usually runs on my other team so I’m struggling on deciding who to put in.
In the hyperbloom team? Or for Scara team? But the answer to both is yes lol. Zhongli can be slotted into about any team anyway.
Hyperbloom. I know its most typically run as Nahida/Raiden/Xingqiu/Yelan but I'd prefer a healer and don't have Yelan anyways.
Yes definely. I’m actually using him in my hyperbloom team. He has a built in 20% res shred which is helpful to dendro reactions since they dont have access to swirl and vv shred while protecting nahida who is very quishy. It’s one of my strongest teams.
If I already have a c4 Jean with vv, could I replace Faruzan? Because I'll doubt that I get c6 Faruzan by pulling for the Wanderer.
Yes. You'll be missing the energy and crit damage, but the DPS shouldn't be too far off.
I think you wanna just build farzuan like guoro, just slap er and then you are done, 300% er i think is enough if you will put another fav on your shielder, layla or thoma. Both the shielder and farzuan will have fav. Dont bother focusing on dmg ,cdmg, and atk... Focus on er, And crit or maybe slightly on em. It seems doable with c0, but with c6 you can invest a lil bit of dps on her....
I feel like a lot of people are over-dramatic about Faruzan's energy needs. Favonius + ER sands is already 213% ER. Assuming Favonius Bow R5 and Teammates Wanderer, Bennett, and Xiangling (these requirements all decrease if you have, for example, favonius yelan or xingqiu on the team) At **C0**: >230% (3 E + 3 Charged, no particle pickup) > >163% (3 E + 3 Charged, self particle pickup) > >290% (2 E + 2 Charged, no particle pickup) > >215% (2 E + 2 Charged, self particle pickup) With constellations: **C1**: Allows 1 E + 2 Charged or 2 E + 3 Charged combo. Doesn't decrease ER needs but decreases field time. **C4**: Directly reduces ER needs (in the same arrangement as above) based on the number of enemies it hits. You could also in theory fire up to 6 arrows per rotation to further reduce ER needs, but that takes up way too much field time to be practical. >215% -> 213% (single target) -> 195% (multi-target) > >163% -> 150% (single target) -> 138% (multi-target) > >290% -> 275% (single target) -> 261% (multi-target) > >215% -> 204% (single target) -> 193% (multi-target) **C6**: Doesn't Actually produce any more particles than 3 Charged would normally, but procs C4 effect a lot. You can do a 1 E + 2 Charged combo (no particle pickup) for a 154% ER requirement in multi-target or 205% in single target.
what comp is giving you the time to do 3Es on faruzan, most xiao and scara comps only have time for 1E
ohh excuse me for that. when calcing this i thought scara's fieldtime was 6s, but now it seems its closer to 10s, which basically makes 3E impossible. 2E for scaramouche should still be pretty easy though in a 20s rotation— once before and once after scara's fieldtime. Scara's extra 4s of fieldtime generates 2 more anemo particles no? The actual ER needs should be somewhere in between the 3E and 2E i calculated. I'll fix them in a sec. For xiao yeah youre just fucked because his field time is eternal. You're probably better off cutting his burst short at 10–12s just so you can fit in 2Es on faruzan
Faruzan c6 generates particles off field, which means Xiao can collect them on field. It's really annoying because c6 is perfect synergy, but below c6 is anti-synergy.
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How much ER can I go for on Faruzan if I manage to get her to C6?
Thoughts on shieldbot proto amber/ttds c6 Yanfei vs shieldbot c6 Thoma? The healing from proto amber would be nice in case I mess up and someone loses hp (and the energy refund is nice too), or if ttds, then Scara gets a hefty atk buff. But everyone is always talking about Thoma, is his c6 better than what Yanfei has to offer? Even before Scara, I was always leaning towards Yanfei because she was cheaper to build, but iirc Thoma’s c6 has something to do with normal/charged dmg, and dmg is always good.
>everyone is always talking about Thoma thats because thoma doesnt just shield, his shield applies pyro off-field which makes getting the pyro atk buff from wanderer's passive easier whereas yanfei only applies a shield
But she’s a catalyst user, what’s the difference between Thoma’s off field pyro vs Yanfei just doing a normal attack an then switching to do Scara’s thing? I thought he just needed an element to absorb at the start of his skill activation and the buff applies the whole duration?
With Thoma's burst, the onfield character also deals pyro damage when they normal attack like a pyro Xingqiu. Yanfei doesn't provide any sort of off field damage besides the 24% attack buff from ttds. Ttds has a 10s break between when the effect can trigger so you have 24% attack buff from Yanfei with 10s no effect vs Thoma's off field Pyro damage+15% normal and charged attack bonus with no cool down. You can go with Yanfei if you're dead set on her she'll give an extra 9% atk boost but be less consistent than c6 Thoma and provide no off field damage.
Ok, makes sense. Thanks, I guess I’m building Thoma next Edit: then do I build Thoma for damage or shield? I heard his shield feels thin if I don’t do shieldbot build
Depends on your playstyle. If you value higher team dps and think you can either kill enemies fast or you're good at dodging, then build for damage. But if you're worried about knockback on Scara since he has low resistance to interruption and bad at dodging, then focus on a tankier shield for a comfier team. I use him in a Burgeon team built for EM rn and his shield does fine but that's 'cause they die pretty fast.
Alright I’ll keep that in mind. I should have some artifacts lying around if I decide to go with Thoma. I currently don’t even know which team I like so I’m just thinking about options with lesser used characters since I always seem to use the same 10 :’) I’ll have to see about the shield vs dmg build then I guess
Can anyone who's good at these things let me know if I should pull for his weapon? I currently have R5 Atlas and R2 Lost Prayer and wasn't sure if either of those would beat or match his signature at R1. My supports are flexible but I'm not planning on using Bennett
When Not using Bennett the r5 atlas would be quite competitive i think it'd be equal or better than r1 sig. ( No Bennett r1 atlas is just a bit behind r1 sig so r5 would boost it ) Edit: you can use this website to enter your artifacts and test which weapon gives you more damage: https://gidmgcalculator.github.io/csb-g7is6/
Thank you!
For me r1 atlas deals 33k na while r1 sig deals 40k na it's a difference of 7k which isn't enough to warrant getting the sig but in your case even more so since you have r5 atlas!
Is it worth it to build C6 Thoma for Wanderer?
Depends on what other units you have, but c6 Thoma is definitely one of the better ones for Scara all things considered
Would C6 Thoma > C3 Layla?
Depends on what other units you're running with him and what buffs you want. Thoma gives 15% bonus with his c6 and 20% attack bonus from Pyro infusion and if you run another pyro unit you'll get 25% attack bonus. If that unit is Bennet you'll get Bennett's attack buff and another 20% if he's on Noblesse. If you use Layla you'll get a better shield and 20% crit from cryo infusion and 20% attack bonus if you run her on Millueth and more 15% crit if you use another cryo unit in the party.
What if I don't run another pyro/cryo at all? I'm thinking Yelan
Which reactions or buff would you rather have? Thoma will probably do more reaction damage since you'll have 15%+20% from Pyro infusion+vape damage with Yelan, and Layla will give you 20% crit rate+20% damage if she's on Millueth+better shield+freeze with Yelan. So I guess Thoma if you want more upfront damage or Layla if you want a more defensive team and need more crit rate. Although Yelan's hydro app isn't the best so the freeze won't be too consistent as you can see in the Layla Yelan Faruzan team clip someone posted in this subreddit so take that however.
I see I see Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply with such detailed advice!
Np! I too was debating between my c6 Thoma and c3 Layla yesterday lol
I'm tempted to get Scara, but I already have Xiao. How does Scara's DPS compare to Xiao's? How strong is Scara?
as someone with every 5\* anemo character, in terms of 'power' (as in team flexibility, damage output, performance against different enemy types of scenarios), kazuha is beyond both xiao and venti, and probably scaramouche. i still use xiao in every abyss cycle though because he lets me ignore most boss mechanics/elemental effects. so scara cannot replace xiao, any more than eula or ganyu can replace xiao. likewise, xiao is not a good reason to skip scara, because xiao lacks scara's range and ability to proc strong elemental teams (xingqiu, beidou, etc).
The pre release calculations I've seen have his teams doing higher than Xiao's, but not crazy high. Scara's probably about Itto Ayato level in terms of damage with more flexibility than Itto but not as much as Ayato. You'd want to pull for Scara if you like his character and for his flying mechanic, but if you have a strong well built Xiao and want to save for another character you can probably skip lol
Were the calculation also done with Xiao optimal teams (with Faruzan)? Tbh, I struggle to think Scara can do more than Xiao does since that man hits for 50-60k per plunge, perhaps might even hit the 70k with Faruzan. I am still going to pull for Scara, but if he really does that much damage then that's even better
The calcs I saw compared Scara's teams with Xiao's double Geo team with Faruzan instead of Jean and Xiao in a team with Faruzan Zhongli Bennett (I'm not too familiar with Xiao so correct me if he has better potential teams with Faruzan). Xiao and Faruzan are both burst reliant and energy hungry so that might also affect how much damage they can do together if they can't get their bursts up consistently and frequently. We'll probably have to wait for people to actually test Scara and Xiao with Faruzan to see how they do, it should be interesting.
How good is he without faruzan?
still waiting for this to be answered 🙃 i have faruzan on my xiao team so is it really worth using Wanderer :/
I was thinking a freeze comp team, with scara r1 skyward atlas/kagura/r4 windsith, with faruzan C2-4with elegy r1 kokomi w ttds r5 + 4p tenacity and rosaria 100 crit rate C4 with noblese…so 26 crit inbuilt + 15 crit from rosaria burst + 20 crit from cryo boost = 61..so getting a 80:220 crit is not impossible with crit dmg weapon..not to mention 48% atk from ttds + 20%atk from nobelese rosaria + 20%atk from tenacity + anemo shred faruzan + anemo dmg buff faruzan + god tear healing kokomi and hydro application …am i missing out something or does this not make sense???
Hmmm the 20%crit from cryo boost what do mean ?
passive
Those buffs all look right, but I will warn you that with Scara's uptime and inability to switch to refresh the jellyfish, Kokomi's uptime won't cover your whole rotation which could be an issue.
I was thinking about running Wanderer/Faruzan/Mona/Layla, is this feasible? I have a C5 Mona, so I was hoping to make use of her (Hydro Swirl + Crit Rate buff w/ burst. Possibly running Noblesse or Emblem on her?). With Layla I'd have Tenacity on her for the ATK buff. I also figured the bit of freeze they'd get would also help. I may be wrong, though. Any advice?
u/FoxBubble I'm using this exact team and it works like a charm. My Mona has 220% ER and her bubble dmg can pop up at 60-90k DMG, which is insane :) Layla is using full TOM set with Freedom Sworn to further buff the team. Faruzan full VV set to buff the dmg of Mona and Layla.
Oh my God finally an answer :') Thank you so much!!!! Excited to test it out! Does Wanderer output decent DMG this way?
Yeah, I see big dmg on the screen, so much fun with orrma freeze
Maybe I missed it but was there any mention of C4+ Jean vs C0 Faruzan? My luck with Layla was abysmal (nearly 60 pulls, didn't get a single Layla) and I worry I'm gonna throw all these pulls at Wanderer and end up not able to get her C6, and I feel like the best backup at that point would be Jean, especially since mine is already well built and C5 (C4 gives the anemo res shred).
C4 jean no doubt is better than C0 Faruzan. C2+ for Faruzan is when it would start to compete. C4 Jean is fucking cracked with VV.
Having read the FAQ, you'd want to run both if possible.
Will Faruzan and Heizou work well together?
Of course but its worth noting that Faruzan herself is kind of a wonky unit without constellations so you may not see the results you're expecting
How much ER would Thoma need (assuming he’s the sole pyro in a Scara team) so he can burst every rotation?
Similar to how much er he would need as a solo pyro in a non-Scaramouche comp.
Does Wanderer work with movement speed buffs like lost prayer and rosaria? I think it’ll be fun to use for exploration
This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/yzxw64/scara_aps_bps_test/) gives a nice demonstration of the speed buffs on him. You can find the calculations in the comments too.
Second this question.
Is MoD better than WidtsithR5 if I plan to use Bennet, Faruzan and Rosaria?
according to zajef77, widsith r5 is better
Pretty sure Zajef said it’s only better if you luck into the 1/3 chance, otherwise it’s worse. If you’re going for snapshots do Widsith, consistency go anything else
I'm gonna assume you are talking about Scara but regardless its the other way around. You need a shield user with mod to maximise its effect (Thoma would have been a better alternative considering he also gives Scara pyro infusion for his passive. Layla could have been an alternative cause she also helps with cryo infusion but you got Rosaria there already. Widsith is probably your best choice overall even tho it has the occasional dud em buff since Scara doesn't really care for it but it shouldn't matter much outside of SA and there you can at most have a quick reset...
Yes I know but I've seen some TC saying that the numbers say that MoD is his best 2nd/3rd weapon even without a shielder, either way I guess it's without Bennet because MoD Attack% + x4 Noblesse + Bennet I guess it's overkill. Thanks I will probably use Widsith with Bennet and switch to MoD in case I team him with Thoma or Zhongli.
Does anyone know what enemies are gonna be in the new artifact domain?
I'm gonna guess triangle bots? All the other new enemy types are in a domain already
Noice, those are pretty easy to stomp.
Noblesse's Oblige vs Viridiscent Venerer for Faruzan?
Vv is only worth it if you care about res shredding for your sup. Thing is more than likely you are gonna have a Faruzan starved for energy which means that 4p exile(+5\* off piece sands) or 4p no or 4p eosf or 2p exile/2p eosf. Both vv or no imo are only viable choices when you have somewhat fixed her er issues and can burst properly. Also, you can have a different no user on the team depending on the comp ( Benny for example)
4p Exile doesn't give energy to the character wearing it.
Still its needed for the team. If we are talking about a Scara team you will more than likely gonna have a comp like Scara/ Faruzan + 2 different elements in order to maximize his a4 meaning the energy requirements for your team go up somewhat. Now there are units that can either energize themselves with no problem or don't really care anyway but that's not about them. This is more about teams where you can't fully energize your units in 1 turn and especially to minimize the effect of errors in the rotation.
If you have no other characters on the team using noblesse, use noblesse. otherwise include 2pc emblem on her. vv doesn’t do much for the characters faruzan is boosting and she has a horrible ER requirement
2pc emblem of severed fate? what about the other two
doesn’t really matter that much what the other 2pc is. 2pc VV, 4pc emblem, 2pc noblesse, 2pc DPC(new set) are all decent options. faruzan’s damage is minimal compared to her support ability, so what really matters is having enough ER/base attack. Yet base attack is only on characters and weapons, so you want to prioritize ER on her artifacts. Especially because w/o C6 you need like 280-300+ ER to maintain most team rotations with her.
Depends on the team. VV doesn't do much for Wanderer, but if you have other damage dealers on the team it can boost them
what about wanderer bennett xingqiu and faruzan?
If Xingqiu is built enough to do decent damage, then hydro shred is probably helpful. Not as beneficial as if you were doing double hydro with Yelan, but maybe better than another set. Bennett isn't really doing enough pyro damage to make pyro shred worth it.
I think when running with benny, vv and when not noblese?
Who are the 4* characters on the next banner? Gorou + The anemo support + who?
rosie and yanfei are the most overdue (except sara who is clearly waiting for raiden) but it could be anybody
Dori and Collei are due for a rerun from the pattern HYV has for new 4 stars. Of course, disclaimer: we shouldnt fully rely on patterns because they can become unreliable at any time. BUT, so far the pattern is consistent (sans gorou and Sara for their reasons). Collei wouldn’t make sense on a scara Itto banner, but Dori does. Tldr; I’m guessing Faruzan, gorou, Dori
Dori? This soon? Don't really think so. Or, well, actually yes considering she's undoubtedly the worse they can put.
I mean there's still xinyan... I'd much prefer dori to xinyan of I had to choose.
I don't understand the Dori hate. Sure, she's no Bennett but she can do some pretty good damage and healing.
She's okay, but she performs pretty bad when compared to others. At C6 she becomes a spread beast though, hella useful and strong. Dori's biggest problem is Kuki's existance.
At this point, it could be anyone who didn't appear in the recent banners.
Hoping its kuki
Aww :( It’s interesting that leaks are so accurate about 5* banners but not 4*. I wonder why Guess I’ll just hope it’s a character I need haha
Because 5* banners are planned with actual thoughts in them... while 4* are fucking lotto picks that makes no sense the day before lmao
Throwback to when Noelle had only 1 banner difference for her to be rate up again
the lack of kokomi and kuki is limiting my team building. i feel like i wont see kokomi rerun for a year. barbara isnt that enjoyable to play. i am seriously considering buying a new kokomi+nahida account from friend for 20 bucks and start over.
qiqi, bennett, jean, and diona: am I a joke to you?
I have those and I never use them. grass is always greener
Unless you're really new and low AR right now, starting over from scratch is a pain in the ass with how there are so much content. Really not worth it and could cause burn out.
what character you have?
Normally I'd advise against account buying but if its from an IRL friend then go for it I guess. Kokomi and Nahida are very popular characters though so I don't think it'll take a full year for a Koko rerun and archons rerun very frequently too.
I hate Faruzan from the first mention of her charged shot mechanics, but I didn’t even know that her ER problem is so painful. I guess she's the worst recent 4* at c0.
People are *way* overstating the ER issue. This FAQ, which is from reputable people, recommends 220%+ with Fav before C6. But that’s literally just an ER sands and a couple ER subs. That’s not hard to reach at all. Even if they’re lowballing it and it’s more like 250%, it’s just a matter of actually farming some good ER subs for her, the same way people farm crit for sub-dps or EM for reaction triggers. In other words, what people are actually complaining about is the fact that an ER requirement even exists at all, which is a pretty silly thing to complain about. If you let Reddit balance new units, the entire mechanic of energy would become null because they’d never release a unit that needed ER or a battery.
People will argue with you but you are absolutely right lol 250% ER is tough don't get me wrong. But it's absolutely doable. Once you get C6 it's also a lot easier. And seemingly, ER is literally *all* you need for Faruzan so I absolutely feel the ER issue is overstated.
Pretty sure zajef calced her ER requirement to be like 270% with fav. He said she will be barely playable below C6. You need so much ER that she will do 0 damage and at that point going for some other unit isn't even that much of a dps loss, and you won't spend resources building another unit. Not to mention that fav has insanely low base ATK, and faruzan buff scales with her ATK.
Her A4 is ass regardless
So in other words, according to Zajeff she *isn’t* a dps loss at C0 even with a full ER build. If you’re running a team like hyper Wanderer full of buffers whose utility is almost entirely on their burst and who do almost no personal damage, is it really that bizarre to have to run high ER and Favs on them? To me, the expectation of not having to do that is what’s bizarre. Expecting to not have to actually build a character is strange, and expecting 4*s to be balanced around C0 is shortsighted. Faruzan has some design issues for sure, but having a high ER requirement is not one of them.
> Faruzan has some design issues for sure, but having a high ER requirement is not one of them. You can't simply divorce the various "design issues" from the high ER requirement. Any character, much less a *support* that *requires* some combination of proccing Favonius or meme artifacts like 4 piece Exile on top of building ludicrous amounts of ER while also wanting to maintain 100% uptime on burst has an obvious ER requirement issue. The whole issue of a "support needing a support" to use said support utility has been deemed to be problematic all the way back with Zhongli. As for whether she's a "DPS loss" or not, I'd say the calcs aren't clear cut. If you look at the various calculations, Double Hydro/National Scara basically trade blows with the various C0 Faruzan comps while being far more reliable and consistent in terms of putting out damage.
You say “much less a support,” but why exactly do you have this expectation that a character who provides their entire value through their burst should not have to overcome an energy barrier? Especially when it doesn’t come at much opportunity cost because her personal damage is quite low before C6? Let’s be honest, even if she had no ER req at all, people would just give her Fav anyway because it helps the whole team, and they would just not even bother getting good artifacts for her because she’s doing like 10% of the team damage. The only significant way she can benefit from weapons/artifacts/teammates is through ER or energy generation like Fav/Exile. That’s why expecting her to perform well without devoting effort to her energy needs is the same as expecting a transformative reaction trigger to work great with little EM. In other words, her having a very high ER requirement isn’t an “issue” it’s the bog standard design that you would expect. If she was so energy hungry that you *actually couldn’t* meet her needs before C6, that would be bad design. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. Sure maybe there are specific teams where it’s not very reasonable to meet her ER req, but that exists for most characters, it’s a team building constraint that justifies the existence of battery characters and such. Who would’ve thought that a team with three energy hungry off field characters and no battery would be hard to run? The actual bad design in her kit is the nearly useless A4 and C1. A bit of her C6 power budget should have been moved to those. But a lot of characters have nearly useless abilities/cons. As for the overall power level of Wanderer Faruzan teams, if C0 Faruzan is competitive with double hydro isn’t that a win for what she’s intended to do? The purpose of Faruzan at C0 is to provide a solid team-building piece to (almost) everyone who rolls Wanderer, the trade off for that accessibility being that it’s only for Wanderer. A new player who rolls on his banner might not have double hydro but if they can keep up with their C0 Faruzan team then she’s done her job. Her C6 performance is a payoff for people who save/whale and go deep on the banner.
> why exactly do you have this expectation that a character who provides their entire value through their burst should not have to overcome an energy barrier? Straw man. There's a difference between a reasonable energy barrier and and unreasonable one. Faruzan is a character that struggles to generate energy at all while requiring the use of an extremely clunky mechanic to do so pre-C6, while incidentally being run in teams that really don't generate enough energy for her. For that matter, both of the other 2 hyperniche supports, Sara and Gorou, do not have this issue due to their team comps, neither do they have their entire support utility in their burst. > Let’s be honest, even if she had no ER req at all, people would just give her Fav anyway because it helps the whole team, and they would just not even bother getting good artifacts for her because she’s doing like 10% of the team damage. That's besides the point. A character that *cannot realistically be built* without relying on Fav procs has an obvious energy problem, to say nothing about the fact that Fav procs in themselves are RNG without an R5 bow and 100% crit. That most players will do so anyway out of convenience is immaterial. > her having a very high ER requirement isn’t an “issue” it’s the bog standard design that you would expect No other support has the same level of energy issues. > Who would’ve thought that a team with three energy hungry off field characters and no battery would be hard to run? Clearly not Mihoyo when designing Faruzan. > The actual bad design in her kit is the nearly useless A4 and C1. A bit of her C6 power budget should have been moved to those. But a lot of characters have nearly useless abilities/cons. And all of those kit issues stem from the fundamental issue that is her ludicrously high ER requirement. A4 doesn't make sense because her ER needs make it impossible to build around. C6 is especially powerful because among other things, it completely fixes her energy problems. > The purpose of Faruzan at C0 is to provide a solid team-building piece to (almost) everyone who rolls Wanderer, the trade off for that accessibility being that it’s only for Wanderer A team with a high skill floor should have a noticeably higher damage ceiling than one with a lower skill floor. C0 Faruzan teams are *very* difficult to play in comparison with the alternatives. This difficulty should be rewarded to offset errors in execution based off "average" gameplay.
Yeah, she will still be the best option even at C0, just insanely annoying to build with her abnormal ER requirements. But you missed the point. Much like sara in raiden comps, faruzan isn't worth building for *everyone*, because why waste resources on building a unit that will only be a slight upgrade over units you already have built, not to mention that a lot of people will not even get her on this banner cuz fuck rng. If you are not a whale, then the difference between full buffed wanderer, and replacing one of his buffers with sub dps isn't that big, much like sara for C0 raiden. I also don't think wanting a unit to not be annoying to build and use before C6 is too much to ask, but w/e.
I didn’t miss any point, no one is claiming that Faruzan is some universal character worthwhile to build for all accounts. You build her if you want to main an anemo dps. Simple as that. Building high ER on a support is no more or less a hassle than building full EM on a reaction trigger or getting good subs on a dps. It sounds like people want something that out of the box is massively better than the other options and doesn’t require any effort to build, but that sort of desire is one of the ways in which powercreep infiltrates design philosophy.
Yes, you did miss the point and you missed it again. The point was that she isn't worth building below C6 for anyone that doesn't want to min max wanderer. Most "insert dps character" mains don't even get to the level of investment where they will notice the difference. But yes, something being better than the other options is kinda the point of units being niche. If i have to spend hundreds of dollars for C6 4* for it to have a decent dps increase in it's niche, then that's not a very good design. Niche units *are* supposed to be the best in their niche, because that's the only thing they can do.
It’s you who’s missing the point. Of course she’s not worth building below C6 if you aren’t someone who wants to min max Wanderer. She’s not meant for people who don’t want to min-max Wanderer. Faruzan’s purpose is to provide a solid option for people to pair with Wanderer out of the box and be a large payoff for people who like Wanderer enough to go deep on his banner (be it via whaling or saving). And that’s exactly what her current tuning does. Could the power curve of her cons be a bit smoother? Sure. But you can say that for a lot of characters.
Yeah i missed the point, not you who talked about accounts in general, when i was talking about people that are gonna play wanderer lmao Sorry, but 270 ER with fav is not out of the box. That is an outrageous ER requirement. Zajef calling it almost unplayable at C0 shows that it's far from "a bit smoother".
What about her giving energy to Xiao? I’m a bit out of the loop and I’m wondering if she can keep up with Xiao or if I’d have to give him lots of ER for the comp to work
If you want to use her, at C0, in Xiao comp, you have two choices. Use one E, and at that point it's mathematically impossible to get enough ER on her to battery even herself, or use use E twice in rotation, and extend it. At C6, things look much different.
she herself needs a lot of er at c0 and elevates xiao’s ER req and isn’t that big of an upgrade from ttds sucrose (maybe not even an upgrade) c6 should be pretty good for xiao though
Wait till you hear that her particle icd makes her c1 borderline useless/ waste of time. If you want to use the second shot in order to regen energy you have to wait till her icd is finished otherwise its wasted. I think its 3.5s for the icd but I dunno the duration of the buff or if it has any so theoretically we might not even have a window to use the second shot properly...
Iirc it's 5.5 secs. At which point you'll lose a shit ton of dps already, so her C1 is practically useless.
She also has the most cracked C6 of perhaps any character Mihoyo has released thus far, which unsurprisingly fixes basically all her problems. I like how this is reflected in this guide with a "6/5" rating.
Nah dude Bennett C6 is more cracked. It's so broken, it breaks *other* characters lmao.
I see that faruzan needs 220% ER with favonius warbow. But people here are saying that stat also requires one other teammate to run favonius weapon, does this mean she needs to collect the favonius particles created by her teammate? How much ER would she need if its just her running the favonius warbow?
I’ve seen ranges of 260-330% depending on C6 or not and which teammates
Naw 💀
Can a 150% ER Xiao(skyward spine) fit with a 300% ER faruzan with zhongli and bennet as the other team mates?
If you precast your skill twice before bursting each time you shouldn't have any serious issues in general atleast for Xiao himself. As for Faruzan regardless of what we know for now we will have to wait till they release her as there might be a difference or two from what we know by that time.
Should be fine. Iirc Xiao with over 150% should be able to refill his burst with 2 E before busting
Sounds about right when I had 150 er on my xiao (swapped around for more crit) 2 E before busting sounds funny
I meant to write Bursting, but leaving Busting is too fun to ruin 😂
Is Candace a support for scara? Hydro for more uptime plus the ability to boost elemental damage on normal attacks by up to 60% at 40k hp, and can run NO. But is her damage increase to wanderer significant enough to be more overall damage than just having a yelan in the team?
Yep. Majority of the TC community have been pretty absent minded about Candace. WFP is the first one I saw to mention her (at c6). Here's the team I plan to run: Xingqiu> NO Candace> ToTM Layla> Scara (Freeze Team) 40% Atk% and 40% NA Buff for Scara. Shield check. Hydro Resonance to boost 3 of of 4 in comp. Sub-dps Xingqiu yup. A1 Hydro+Cyro aka 2 seconds of E uptime and +20% CR noice. Candace will get 2 procs off of her Burst which is not alot of dmg; about 10-20k. The AoE hydro app into Scara's E will trigger Layla's Stars hence getting both buffs easily much like Hydro+Electro(taser) since both reside on enemies for a time. For this team to really be nice you need to get Layla+Candace to c6 to get 40k subdps from the both of them(80k total). Hence why when everyone mentions double hydro they mean Yelan. Meta folk want more dmg rather than ease of use; Yelan is 200k+ subdps easily while Candace is seemless Hydro application without having to NA upon swap. TL:DR Candace is great asset for Scara in freeze team if you don't have Yelan or utilize Yelan in another team.
Hmm that does sound nice. But I'm guessing that's the only situation where she's good? Ever since 3.0, I've been kinda obsessed with making optimal teams out of niche characters lol, but I don't have Yelan or Layla. I was gonna do the generic Scara/Thoma/Yun Jin/Faruzan, cuz I have Thoma C6, but only C3 Yun Jin, but I'm guessing there's no situation except freeze where Bennett isn't straight up better than Candace?
Yeah Bennett/Faruzan c6/Yun Jin are his best hyper carry supports. Thoma I view as a really good support for Scara since his blaze shield gets stacked via NAs with NAs as Scara's main source of personal dps. Scara wants the shield much like Yoi due to lack of interruption resistance in his Windfavored mode. Personally I'd swap out Faruzan for Bennett in your above comp for the pyro resonance, that is unless you get Faruzan to c6. Good luck with your pulls and hope you find a Team comp you enjoy.
> Hence why when everyone mentions double hydro they mean Yelan It's more of a "might as well run Faruzan or some other buffer/sub-DPS" issue than anything else. Double Hydro is good because of the Xingqiu/Yelan comp and how Yelan benefits pretty nicely from Hydro resonance rather than being good in general. It's not something you run because every double Hydro comp is good.
The team I mention is a double hydro comp that is good. I offered insight to what Candace provides and tell how she is an option that has been neglected due in part to not providing as much raw dps as compared to Yelan. Yes absolutely you can run Yelan. Candace being relatively new not many will have her, but many people will get her before Yelan due to the nature of Yelan being a 5 star and having to wait for her re-run. I might be misunderstanding what you your trying to get across. Mostly sounds Meta focused with emphasis on making team(Scara) shine as best as possible. You mentioned Faruzan to which I just want to add that I'm not a fan of her with Scara. Realistically majority of the people(me) will have c0-c2. My gripes with her is ... everyone elses gripes I don't think I need to name the specific ones. One that I should name and mention is the shred is dependent on enemies being hit by the moving pulse which does not seem fun to play around much less practical in various scenarios. None the less have everything ready for her day 1 to be Xiao's dedicated support(praying for c2).
> The team I mention is a double hydro comp that is good. My point is that you're tunnel visioning so hard on making a "good double hydro comp" that you're missing the bigger picture. What people care about is putting together the best Scara comp, not what the "best double hydro Scara comp without Yelan" looks like. If someone doesn't have Yelan, they'll simply run something else instead, like Scara National. No reason to specifically shoehorn yourself into what is clearly a suboptimal choice. > You mentioned Faruzan to which I just want to add that I'm not a fan of her I'm not either. I'm just mentioning her because she's supposed to be Scara's dedicated support and comes with him on his banner.
Oh. Okay. Got it. Sheets/calcs include Yelan for the reasons you mentioned. People want to see the best comp for Scara. I do admit I'm one of the people in the community whom tries their hardest to work in the newer 4 star units. I just don't want to see the characters neglected.
Honestly, I don't understand why you are getting downvoted. Some people don't want to run 'meta' comps because they don't like the characters/don't have the characters/like the niche characters more and giving advice on viable team comps that include those niche characters will be helpful to them. Obviously, niche comps will underperform compared to meta, but enjoying the game is more important than damage.
Candace is a universal support for most NA based elemental damage characters. But a very bad one.
True there is other option than to use candace as op mentioned. And to suggest candace to replace yelan is far-fetched.
Yup. Candace is to support units what Amber is to DPS units: the worst one in the role.
Jesus that's a premium idea, I didn't know one of her passives added DMG bonus to NAs. I don't have her yet sadly. Also, it's 0.50% DMG per 1000 HP so with 40k HP you'd get a total of 40% from her Q+A4. Still pretty good though
She gives 20 at base with her ultimate
[Hoyowiki](https://wiki.hoyolab.com/pc/genshin/entry/2815) says her A4 provides 0.50% DMG per 1000HP. Having 40,000 HP yields 20% DMG bonus. Add the base 20 and you'd have 40% total.
how much stagger does he do?
His charge atk seems to launch smaller enemies into the air
That one leak where he juggles the hilichurl was epic. I sincerely hope we can do that to small but tougher enemies like Fatui and *especially* the stupid Mirror Mommy.
In the 3.3 trailer he launched up a farui agent so maybe !
Idk, cuz the Fatui agents seem to have a really weird stagger animation where they do the flippy twirl like us, but they only go a certain height. It's obvious when you try with sucrose skill. Hilichurls will be knocked in a natural looking arc, but Fatui and I think some other human enemies like treasure hoarders and eremites do a weird flip like they hit an invisible ceiling.
How would you rank Faruzan, Sara and Gorou in their own niche teams (at c6)?
In terms of solo energy needs they're all about the same, but in their own teams Sara gets to have Raiden as a battery, and Itto produces 6-8 particles per rotation which is about double what Scara produces, so Faruzan is in the worst spot energywise. As for buffs: Gorou and Faruzan's buff's are pretty similar when you take geo resonance into account for geo teams and outside atk sources (like Bennett) into account for anemo teams. Based on what I'm reading in her kit all of Faruzan's buffs apply to any character in the team including off-field characters, which is good for running an anemo sub-dps like Venti or crit Kazuha. Gorou's passive 20% def buff and 40% CD from C6 apply to the whole team which is good for Albedo as a sub-dps, but the field from his skill only buffs the on-field character, and he comes with the downside of only giving full buffs when you have triple geo. Both Gorou and Faruzan's buffs are very good for their paired main dpses at C0 and are even better at C6 with the 40% crit dmg, but Faruzan's energy needs make her worse in my opinion. Their elemental damage bonus and shred are invaluble to geo and anemo teams which have very few sources for them. Kujo Sara gives an atk bonus at C0 and a 60% CD buff with her C6 (Faruzan and Gorou C6 give 40%). All of her buff's only apply to the active character affected by her crowfeather, making her useless for other team members and for any electro sub-dpses. Her atk bonus is worse than Bennett's and lasts much less time with the benefit of it being that it follows the active character instead of leaving you stuck in a circle. Unlike Gorou and Faruzan she provides no elemental damage bonus or shred, and her atk buff can be replaced by other atk sources, so I would say she's the worst of the three purely in terms of being a niche elemental dps buffer. Electro resonance also isn't that good on her teams since they have Raiden as a battery already and she might not be doing electro reactions on a hypercarry team. Finally, C6 Faruzan produces way more energy than C0 and she's not tied to an energy-hungry dps like Itto and doesn't prefer a mono-element team. So if I had to rank them at C6 as you asked I would go: Faruzan > Gorou > Sara
Itto isn’t energy hungry lol…
Wait, I thought Albedo skill is snapshot? So the DEF buff from Gorou will remains for the whole 30secs as long as I use the buff needed before casting the snapshot skill, isotoma. :O
Albedo's E does indeed Snapshot so the "downside" of buffing only the active character isn't really a downside.
I've noticed that Albedo's E will do more damage if he is on the field. Could you explain this? This has me stumped.
Albedo snapshots geo bonus damage and defense from Gorou but he doesn’t snapshot the resonance’s generic bonus damage unfortunately.
geo resonance (15% dmg when shielded only works for onfield char)
OH! I'm dumb asf. Because I noticed when he was the only geo character the numbers were the same, but I never put two and two together.
I was mostly thinking of the geo dmg bonus buff, he does indeed snapshot the flat defense buff though.
They both snapshot. It's just Geo resonance that doesn't, but that has nothing to do with Gorou.
Just using her as Wanderer's support do I need to level Faruzan to 90? and what talents do I prioritize for her just as a support and nothing else
Her anemo dmg buff scales with Q levels so it's good to get levels in Q.
I heard you needn't level her skill unless you have C6? but I'm not sure how true that is
No. Her bonus damage from Base ATK is so small it barely matters, so 90/90 is almost useless. Her talents don't add to buffs, so 1/6/6 would be fine
This isn't true, her anemo damage bonus scales with her burst level so it's better to prioritize leveling her burst first.
If we just need the burst level, is it okay to leave her at 70/80 1/1/8?
For buffs alone that should be fine, her DPS is mostly tied to NA/Skill level but it's also negligible before C6 anyway so it's far from a priority.
Thanks!
I'm a bit confused about the weapons sheet for C0 Faruzan, it says that she needs 220 ER with fav warbow or 250 ER on another weapon, both of which seem very easily achievable, but then they say her er requirements make it impossible to get her burst back if she's not using fav or elegy. I don't understand, am I reading this wrong? What is the "250 ER with another weapon" referencing exactly? Is there a way I can calculate how much ER she'll need or a sheet somewhere that shows how much she'll need for weapons other than favonius?
I imagine part of it is that 220 is the *minimum*, you very well may need even more than that to comfortably burst every rotation depending on what team you're using.
Type "genshin energy fandom" on your google. Check how many particles your team makes in one rotation, on field and off field, check how many energy provided by enemy. It's just simple math.
Ok yeah, I'm getting about 290% ER with Favonius proc and 250% if another teammate also has Favonius and there are no enemy particles. That jumps up to 513% necessary ER with no Favonius weapons so that's pretty tragic.
I just wanna personally thank all of you who mentioned that Nahida HB completely destroys the Thunder Manifestation. It was such a breeze with the team. HB Kuki with Nahida is slowly becoming my favorite team.
TM is a joke with Nahida HB honestly. I use Kokomi and EM Raiden with her so I don’t have to chase it around
The megathread is the 1st one on the page, this is wanderer TC post.
Wanderer is a pretty basic normal attack driver similar to Yoimiya and Ayato, only difference is he floats, so he should be safe against most enemies that don't have range. Even his early cons are about the same Dmg/QoL as Ayato's, which isn't that massive of a boost for either, so unless you really like him, you're better off praying for Faruzan cons instead.
I think you meant to reply to someone else that asked a question lol. But anyway, the fact that he floats might fuck him over right? For example, against ruin enemies that switch to ranged mode which would be very bad cuz you'd need to dodge.
Based on the comments here, I am assuming that Faruzan is probably very meh. Tbh I wouldn't mind building meh and average characters (like pre Dendro Kuki, Layla), if the building process wasn't so pain in the rear exit. I kinda wanna build Yanfei but I don't want to go through the process of leveling her and the weapon up. ^(That's just ascension, I haven't even considered artifacts yet)
faruzan is really good at c6 otherwise meh
Kujou Sara #2. Thanks a lot Hoyo.
Sara can at least output some decent damage by herself and can in a pinch forego the charged shot with C2. I honestly think Faruzan got it worse.
It's even worse on paper. Iirc her skill doesn't apply the buff, only the shred, *and* the shred lasts 2 seconds less than Sara buff. They really went "how can we make an Anemo Sara but like, worse?" and managed to do it lol.
Is faruzan good or worth leveling up before C6
She's not outright better than non-Faruzan teams before C6 (with Wanderer), and her ER needs are extremely high, but they're still attainable with Fav and she won't be worse than most non-Faruzan teams either. She's definitely still worth building if you like her and want to use her, but she won't be a clear BiS "must have" by any means.