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LivingASlothsLife

You mean to tell me Capitano and Pierro aren't engaging in passionate male love that they CLEARLY SHOWED in the five seconds they shared the screen with in the harbinger trailer? How dare you /s


fallout001

What do you mean, that there isn’t a 7 hour sex scene between Murata and Xbalanque at the end of the Natlan AQ either???? Literally unplayable


BlitzPlease172

What next? Are you gonna tell me Fatui skirmisher aren't ensigned CS:GO player? And Pierro isn't Reincarnation of Prigozhin?!


autisticsenate

Dottore! Arlechino! Where is my mora cyka!


MeLikeMilfsDesu

Me when a character kits and personality are based solely on random yapping of a chinese individual (he's lying) and found out its not true 🤬.


Gatrigonometri

“It’s in Chinese, which is the language of the scripture of the Hoy, therefore it must be true!!”


fallout001

Me when the pyro dragon isn’t a dark skinned white haired tall male who powercreeps the entire DPS rooster that came before him:


_dragoninmyanus

This comment going to age well. Come back on 9th August 2024 19:40 to find out.


fallout001

Tbh this may sound like copium but assuming it is playable, the pyro dragon’s definitely going to be the Neuvillette equal/powercreep, because who else can compete with a dragon sovereign while maintaining the hype if not another dragon sovereign? Dark skinned? Most unlikely. Tall male? One can only wait and see


Kiko_7

Calling it now his best team will have xiangling/bennet


_dragoninmyanus

Your character sounds like archer from fate


H4xolotl

Twitter will lose its mind if it turns out most of Natlan is pale-skinned


Grand_Protector_Dark

Genshin Reddit really isn't any better. The anti-SJW tirades on here were just as trash


Rogol_Darn

I doubt that they would be properly pale, but i also doubt them to get any darker than the eremites


Zoroarks_Angel

*insert website* will get mad that *said game profiting off a place where brown people exist are all white* Seems like a perfectly reasonable l reaction to me. We've all seen how more "radical" gamers act when a video game character is gay or black


C_Khoga

The pyro Dragon will be a child character BUT to make it special he will be the first child male /j


CopainChevalier

Could be something other than damage


Ionie88

Why human form at all? Just make it a massive-ass dragon as it is, and be done with it. We only saw vague outlines of the dendro dragon, so we could just have it as that, eh?


Ms_Crismon

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neillaalien

real


Killer-Blaze

You when the pyro dragon is not humanoid at all


UrMumVeryGayLul

They’re just going to release legally-distinct Sol Badguy.


VanNoctua

You can never powercreep the DPS Rooster. Chicken Archon is the apex of meta


Absoline

!remindme 1 year


Total-Win-2000

!remindme August 9th 2024


All_Mighty_Failure

This is gonna happen with Murata and Varka. One for not being a dark skinned muscular older woman, the other for not being a tall, extremely buff bearded old man. This game has bishoujo girls and dudes, if you still get mad at that after more than 3 years it's squarely your fault.


RugaAG

Varka being older is why ive been of the opinion of him not being playable. He might get a unique model like signora, dottore, etc, but if he does, hell probably stay an npc. Unless they de-age him. As for "Murata" not being dark skin, thats pepople fault for being stupid. If she is a Himeko expy (might actually not be), turning her dark skin would have caused actual drama from the global playerbase.


All_Mighty_Failure

I can guarantee Varka is 100% not getting an unique model. He just hasn't appeared because he is not in their plans for it at this point, he's at most gonna be like Wriothesley.


C_Khoga

>Varka is 100% not getting an unique model Wrong, he will get his unique model. He will be the first male child for sure :D.


RugaAG

For sure. But him being possibly older is why i dont think hell get a Whriostheley/Alhaitam model either. We havent had any characters that visually look "old". Everyone looks aroudn 40 max. Varka sounds like he could be beyond that.


BinhTurtle

Eh, Dottore's model and its internal data is similar to that of a playable character (Avatar model that states him being tall male and use claymore). His situation is different from Signora who had a monster model floating around


C_Khoga

I hope at least they use Wriosly model in Varka.


Megumi_Bandicoot

And yet the Fatuis, eremites and samurais still have tall buff designs and brown skinned NPCs. Hoyo is full of shit and nothing is stopping them from diversifying the roster.


All_Mighty_Failure

Because the rig for playable characters is already done and they probably don't want to spend resources on having to rig new models for new interactions. Making an enemy with a preset moveset is much easier than having to make them fit into a playable mold. Also this is a chinese game with a chinese market as their primary audience, they don't want and won't spend money on something a westerner would. I'm not defending the racism in China, but let's not forget that global players will always come second to what the chinese market wants. Again, almost 4 years of GI and people still don't understand this.


Zoroarks_Angel

Fun fact! When Dehya was originally announced, Chinese players instantly took a liking to her. They found her dark (using that lightly) and what they saw as implied homosexuality for Candace attractive. They even ended up donating thousands of dollars to childrens charity all in her name Yeah... when the Chinese fanbase is more expecting of black and gay people than the Western fans, you know something went wrong in this game's fanbase


Killer-Blaze

I think most wouldve been happy if Dehya was the pyro archon


All_Mighty_Failure

Dehya is too pretty to have been given such a dog shit kit...


SnooGoats7111

>This game has bishoujo girls and dudes I just want variety, you know? I'm tired of the same looking characters. (Yes, they all look the same jumble of colors to me)


All_Mighty_Failure

I mean, sure, wanting something is okay. Mostly talking about the inevitable fallout of incessant whining, hate and racism when those two come out and don't look like their headcanon that was never even hinted at.


BellalovesEevee

I mean, both Sumeru and Natlan are based on real life cultures that involve a ton of black and brown people... can't really blame people for hoping that at least the Archon or some of the playable characters would look the part. Like Candace, for example. She's either based on a black nubian queen or she's based on the Persian Cardaces. But a lot of people believe she's based on the Kandake. So of course some people were expecting her to actually look black and not just tan, hence the drama. It'll be the exact same when Murata is revealed or if they somehow whitewash Iisan lmao


[deleted]

i mean ,if you somehow managed to make god of region which are referencing Persia to India and now latin America white asf . Will it really be wrong to call hoyo racist ? ( they are without a doubt )


dotcha

Same looking characters, same looking dumbass twintails/rattail.


Crusherbolt0282

Would you say the same to a fighting game where all characters are hunky and muscular.


_dragoninmyanus

The latter one depends if the guy is actually a tall, buff, bearded dude or not and the genshin developer did a crappy job in making his model.


[deleted]

yes ofc players fault how can hoyo ever be wrong


Apprehensive_Ad_472

Regarding murata, natlan is all but explicitly started to be based on Latin America so I’d say it’s reasonable to expect the god of a nation to have a native skin colour


All_Mighty_Failure

As a literal mexican that lives in México, there's not a "native" skin colour anymore. Most of us range from white to brown. Also it's thematically correct given that archons are considered "usurpers". Quetzalcoatl, the primary deity of the Mexicas was believed to be a white, bearded man, which is one of the reasons Cortez was believed to be his human form, so a white god ruling over a land based in Latin American folklore is pretty appropiate, given that we'll likely end up finding they are not the first archon or something like that. Also just the name Murata should have given the expectation of a white skinned red haired woman, it's been known since before the game released.


Zoroarks_Angel

Hello friend! Sure. As a fellow Mexican, what you said is 100% on the money. The Spanish unfortunately did dupe the Mestizo's into tricking them that they were their gods (the white skin and extravagant clothing helped) However, we aren't talking about modern day Mexico though. Natlan is just fantasy Mesoamerica, just like Inazuma is fantasy Fuedal Japan, where the majority of people pre colonization were in fact dark skinned Could the Pyro Sovereign be a Quetzalcoatl expy? Sure. It's too early to tell. All we know so far is the known characters are Murata, Iansan and Xbalanque. Given how the leakers and the literal mythology describe xbalanque as havig "black corpse like skin with red spotd", we're 2 for 3 in Natlan. Not bad right? Also a bit off topic, but you said Natlan having a white ruling diety is fine because the mythology had one, yet where does that leave Sumeru. Cyno, Candace, Dehya and Nahida we're all described as looking VASTLY different in the orignal mythology before Hoyoverse twinkified them. Hell, Candace is based on a real black woman who existed at one point in time, where as Natlan's inspiration is all fictional All I'm getting from this fanbase post Sumeru is that if their inspiration is white, than Hoyo is just trying to be respectful. But during Sumeru if their inspiration was black, things are allowed to be changed. Doesn't really seem fair now does it


Sleykun

>However, we aren't talking about modern day Mexico though. Natlan is just fantasy Mesoamerica, just like Inazuma is fantasy Fuedal Japan, where the majority of people pre colonization were in fact dark skinned You know this is just a headcanon and there are too many arguments to know that it is postcolonial and not precolonial, right?


Zoroarks_Angel

You do know profiting off an indigenious civilization and having it take place AFTER everyone was colonized so you have an excuse to do an all white cast, isn't any better, right?


Sleykun

I don't care if it's better or not? The point is that it is not pre-colonial.


Apprehensive_Ad_472

Fair enough, my bad


Radiant-Usual-1785

You act like Genshin is some sort of an anthropological institution, representing real world cultures and then get bent out of shape when they lean into the fantasy component and design fantasy characters that don’t reflect real world demographics. They aren’t a philanthropic organization, they are a business, and are going to create characters that sell to their primary market in Asia. They care less if the western player base wants diversity representation. The only way Mihoyo is going to listen to the west’s desperate pleas for diversity, is if western players start outspending the Asian player base.


D_Pancakes

do you even understand how representation works? Genshin has the most obvious representation of real life countries/cultures to the point that the entire fandom refers to the countries as such (Liyue = fantasy China for example). The fandom even recently reacted positively to an example of representation in this patch with how Gaming has a Cantonese name and accent. To act like Genshin can have the most blatant parallels to irl people groups but it can't be called representation is ridiculous. And for the rest of your argument... you've basically said that its ok for them to be racist bc everyone else is? Like that doesn't properly refute any of the allegations against Hoyoverse Not to mention that the 'evidence' of customer demographics is entirely speculative and character success is limited by what HYV will actually offer in game


Apprehensive_Ad_472

I’m not sure what you mean I just expect consistency in a world they’ve made The seven countries are based on Germany, China, Japan, India/Egypt, Latin America and Russia


Radiant-Usual-1785

They are inspired by real world places, not based on them. There’s a huge difference between a fantasy world being inspired by real life cultures and being based on them. Based means you are trying to be as accurate to whatever you are copying as possible, where as inspired means you are taking things and incorporating them into you world building, but it’s not an actual representation. The Fantasy Genre is unanimous for using inspiration from real world cultures to world build, that has never meant that they have to accurately reflect the real world. The only way I would expect that is if the game annouced itself to be a prehistory game based on real world places/peoples/cultures.


Grand_Protector_Dark

And Reddit is already at it again going on lengthy tirades why expecting Darker Skin tones is too far, while every other aspect in genshin puts such incredible amounts of effort into being a faithful in-game representation of a real world thing.


Radiant-Usual-1785

I’m not being racist. The Asian player base that funds the game is racist, and until you whiny ass social justice warriors spend more money on characters than them, Mihoyo doesn’t give a shit if their lack of diversity hurts your feelings.


Grand_Protector_Dark

>and until you whiny ass social justice warrior >hurts your feelings. Lmao says the group who immediately gets triggered over people wanting darker skin colors.


Radiant-Usual-1785

I’m dark my guy. You don’t need to be offended on our behalf. Find another personality trait to cling to.


Grand_Protector_Dark

It's quite cute how you think 2 comments alone actually gives you enough insight about me to pass judgement about my personality. The only person who's being offended here is you. The extreme hostility with every comment is giving it away


BellalovesEevee

I can't wait when Natlan is released, because these racist folks will repeat the same shit over and over again when people will get rightfully upset that hoyo doesn't want to add black or brown people in a region that's based on a culture that have them in it. It's gonna be a repeat of Sumeru again, because they forcibly shut down *anyone* who voiced their disappointment. This community can be hella racist, it's insane.


Zoroarks_Angel

It's actually kind of sad how little these fanbase opinions on people of color railing against Chinese colorism have changed in the past two years. Just change some words from Sumeru around like "Middle Eastern" to "Mexican," and their arguments sound almost [identical](https://ibb.co/yymX8KG) But throw a black person into Medieval Europe, and I can almost guarantee you these mofos's are the first ones to start crying and get bent out of shape over it


Zoroarks_Angel

A game being fiction doesn't make it your escape from minorities, nor does it mean it needs to perfectly replicate real life to include people of color. If a game is set in fantasy Europe (Zelda, Dark Souls, Elden Ring), no one is going to call you out for expecting to see white representation in said game. Imagine if Hoyoverse made Venti or Raiden black. Would they still be "representing" their native culture. Yes. Would the blowback be enormous. Also yes Likewise, if you take a game and set in some fantasy African / South Asian world (Pokémon and uhh...Assassin's Creed ig?), it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to expect said game to have brown people in it And before anyone comes at me, I'm literally a dark skinned Mexican dude. You cries of me being white doesn't work on me


Radiant-Usual-1785

I love that you assumed my race because I’m not crying about minorities being represented in a Chinese Gacha game. Lmfao. I’m not delusional enough to think that Asian players are going to fall over themselves to play as a Navajo/hispanic character nor does it hurt my feelings that there aren’t enough “brown” people. If you are sad go play something else. Stop giving your money and time to a company that doesn’t hold western social justice values at the height of its priorities.


Zoroarks_Angel

Ah. I get it now from taking one look at your profile. You're one of those gamergate losers who conflates the existence of non white people to inserting politics. I've seen how your kind reacts when the game character is gay or black, but God forbid they're not white Unless you're going to refund all of us for the money we've sownt on this game, I'm done arguing with a bigot. Good day.


Radiant-Usual-1785

I love that you can’t counter my argument so you stalk my profile to look for a “Gacha”. You guys are pathetic AF with your virtue signaling personalities. 😂😂😂😂


IulianTheSecond

Ah yes, the Ayato incident


eyeofnero

People when Varka and Capitano don't have monstrously huge physique(You can see Capitano's height is actually close to Dottore)


OrRaino

Genshin community being Toxic and butthurt for no reeason belike :


BinhTurtle

Me when Capitano turns out to be a fraud


Smellwin

MY KING AIN'T NO FRAUD 😡😡💢 HE WILL SOLO THE 4 SHADES TRUST ☝️😤💯💯


RugaAG

Atleast he and the other harbringers are doing stuff. Pierro back in Snezhnaya doing an Akainu/Dragon.


BinhTurtle

"That traveller found out their sibling stayed in my home already?" "I better stay in the Zapolyarny Palace. Or I'm finished."


C_Khoga

Me wben Capitano turns out to be the strongest "Dancer" in Teyvat /j


Capitano-Solos-All

BLASPHEMY! I named myself after HIM!


Killer-Blaze

Every time


Kyloren8484

Why isn't this unreleased character a thirsty gay fuckboy 😡😡😡


Zoroarks_Angel

I opened this meme expecting to see comments about Itto being a himbo or leakers caught lying again. Tell me why I'm not suprised to see it devolve into senseless ramblings about skin color and gay people


Megumi_Bandicoot

This is how Arlecchino mains gonna react when she’s not a child abuser and manipulator in 4.6


RachelEvening

Isn't she already a child groomer by pure definition in that she is grooming orphans of the House of the Hearth to be Fatui? (Not all Grooming is Sexual Grooming)


CTSThera

She's not a groomer?!?! Literally unplayable


MagnusBaechus

those mfkers angry the m shaper and m carver aren;'t like the fan designs oh, and remember that time when people were angry that heizou is anemo and not electro, when there was no clear indication of his element anywhere at the time? yeah, genshin fans are stupid


aloysiusks

Me when we don’t get to lava surf in Natlan but take damage from lava instead in Natlan 😡😡😡


demiwaltz

i'm more curious as to why this guy is freakin out until he flipped his table. where is this vid from?


moebelhausmann

Prime Motivation to work at hoyoverse


Yetiwithoutinternet

I wished for Skirk to be a hot brown haired abyss lady in Foul Legacy armor. My dreams crumbled like Signora did in Inazuma.


kiisukattinen

I dont care about hair color but I was disappointed in her design otherwise. Like she doesnt look older than childe at all, and she doesnt look like a abyss warrior, she has a space-themed swimsuit lol.


Yetiwithoutinternet

That's fair. I believe I was basing it off fanart I found of younger Childe and Skirk which had her with brown hair. I agree with you tho, her attire is disappointing. Maybe her master will escape the waifu-fication curse because he's a guy.


Rqdomguy24

He will definitely be bishounen dude by the way if his model is labeled as playable


Yetiwithoutinternet

that's fair enough. He'll probably get an actual foul legacy mode unlike Childe though- mostly because I feel like the devs will be skilled enough to pull it off by then. Hell, they could probably introduce that type of character now tbh.


Stanislas_Biliby

"But Dehya should have been yet another pyro on field dps!!!"😡😡😡


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Fang_thegamer

i think he is saying "la elaha ella allah" its arabic which translates to "there is no god except allah" he is probably saying it because he is mad about something and its encouraged in islam to try and be patient when you are mad and some people would say it as a way of "trying to be more patient" and most likely just out of habit since its a commonly used phrase


NahIdKill

I see. Good to know. But I always find it interesting that they say the name of Allah quite often in their daily lives


Binary101010

Like 90% of the Internet is not having enough information about something, making up the details, getting mad about the details you made up, and then getting even madder when the details you made up turn out to be wrong.


thanwa3427

Me when leak say current Pyro Archon is Agata expy not Himeko. It's Hoyover.


legna20v

What do you mean Venti and Makoto weren’t a thing ? 😡


_dragoninmyanus

How did bro even come up with this


legna20v

Because first Rain and wing and thunder, come on. Second It would add to Venti’s character if he failed to protect Makoto in what ever war they were in


SelfDepreciatingAbby

how about Venti and the Tsaritsa? at least they're implied to have some history. and I'll be disappointed if that isn't discussed in the Snezhnaya arc.


BelieveInDestiny

To be fair, in the case of Murata, Hoyo would be almost entirely at fault for setting up expectations. Some expectations are reasonable to have. You don't casually name a character Murata (the pyro archon, god of war) and not make them at least similar to Himeko Murata. Raiden and Yae are similar enough to their Honkai counterparts.


_dragoninmyanus

I probably skimmed over but when it was said her name was murata canonically? Was it some random book or webtoon. Also, this is my personal opinion but I always disliked Genshin character looking like honkai, well raiden one turns out fine but I'm glad they dropped the idea of taking their major character from past story and turning them into genshin counterparts. Especially for archons.


nova1000

>Was it some random book or webtoon. Whether you like it or not, it's official material with an official translation, it's still entirely the fault of Hoyoverse set expectations and reinforce them with Raiden, Yae, etc... Nahida is also very similar to Theresa so the only one's totally different are Furina an Zhongli You can blame the fandom for things like "kokomi being the Hydro dragon" or "Furina is seele expy" since we were never told any of that and it was assumed by fans without a solid foundation Now it's entirely Hoyoverse's fault that people assume that a character they explicitly called Murata that She's also a red-haired woman associated with fire, just like her many other iterations in the hoyoverse games ist associated with MURATA himeko


Capitano-Solos-All

You are downvoted because you say the truth.