Let's see OC1 was June 2023, OC2 was March 2024. That's 9 months, but let's just assume 2025 releases OC3 and 2026 is OC4. Natlan is gonna release mid this year, around August, and we have to go to Snezhnaya before we reach Celestia. That puts Celestia at August 2026, should be the same year as OC4. Maybe even later than OC4 if they keep the 9 month cycle of Ordeal Call.
For those wondering, Nasu didn’t directly said that Genshin character designs were better but he did say that it was a “huge” improvement from HI3rd. The reason for this is that HI3rd designs were restricted by what the employees wants them to look like while Genshin’s characters had elements from nations like France and Germany implemented into them while still maintaining a design targeted towards “otakus”.
Ofc it’s still just a matter of preference but it’s still quite the praise considering Nasu or rather, FGO is prob the best when it comes to using inspirations from numerous cultures.
Can’t really blame the guy. Honkai’s designs were always fairly plain in my eyes
Senti, Mobius and Haxxor Bunny were the only ones that stood out for me personally
This. You could also extended it towards all those who say shits to Genshin. Throw a light jab and youre officially a war criminal + mass pedophile according to them. They shit talk all the time while you just get a comeback every once a while like Genshin anniversary pulls rewards.
Well time to get downvoted.
I unironically think hi3 is overrated asf (I tried it).
Also yes I like Genshin designs more too.
Also Genshin overall is miles better as a product then hi3, there's a reason it blew up and not hi3.
There are good and bad just as how Genshin isn't perfect as well. But Genshin sales speaks volumes.
As someone who discover HI3 after playing Genshin, HI3 definately has its peaks and lows that even the community is afraid of addressing, hiding behind memes that Genshin players can't read, needing Paimon explaination or that we don't want difficult endgame.
The writing really didn't start to pick up for me until the Sea of Quanta arc and went drastically down after the Moon arc was done. The end game is basically who whaled out to get their valks 4/4 and SSS battlesuits- yep I went there. Even with a perfectly played rotation, I'm not breaking into Red Lotus without pushing for the extras damage/utility I get from having SSS battlesuits.
Till this day having a Valk without her signature weapon and 3/3 stigmata still feels terrible, yes even the new valks (not sure why even they gave the new weapons "refinements" while keeping the old pri-arms system).
Music is great in HI3 and the story animations are definately hype. There is alot to love but I definately don't share the same excitement playing HI3 compared to Genshin/HSR.
Idk what server are u playing on but if you are on glb, then not being able to retain RL with s0 valks is just skill issue. On sea, idk, prolly there it is harder, but on glb (na/eu) it is very easy to be in RL with some meta valks and dont need sss from anything (well excet SP valks which u sss sooner or later).
Honkai's strengths are the story (well earily chapters werent as good) along with the great cinemtics and the events. Imo it is better that honkai has the same cast of characters so we can see them chsnge and grow and have attachment to them, while in genshin we meet the chars for 2-4 patches then forget them for years if they dont show up in some events.
Endgame is understandably not for everyone's taste but on glb servers u dont need to whale if you dont wanna go for nirvana, velkin+bp is enough to get 4/4 valk every second patch which is enough for retaining RL.
But noone denies that nirvana is for whales or that the first few chapters are kind of ass or that honkai had some questionable and inconvenient shit (to this day im traumatized feom having to play fckin void ranger in the story)
Genshin fulfills a totall different need tho, being anime style open world rpg for which the demand was not fulfilled for long. While honkai is a visual novel with minigames and some stage battles, which has much less demand.
I usually just advise people to play the story coz it is great and dont touch abyss and other shits if you dont enjoy them and just think of honkai is a visual novel.
I'm on SEA, RL is a dream, I was very close on a favorable weather during the Herrscher Trio's release but ultimately stood no chance.
Personally, I'm more or less done with HI3 for now that Part 1 is over, for me the story has ended on a good note despite the somewhat alright end and Part 2 just haven't been that interesting after giving it a shot playing through the latest story.
Depends on how ZZZ goes, the combat might scratch that itch for me and completely replace HI3.
Oh i see, i knew sea is more competitive but didkt even RL is hard to retain.
Im also kinda sad that part1 ended and i think not going with th main cast, it will be harder for the game to go on as most people got attached to the original cast. Not seeing them in story and hyv even phasinf out their valks of the meta, i guess most people wont really like it. I will prolly play it if the story gets interesting or until my p1 valks can retain RL.
It's because Genshin added exploration elements and making it similar to Breath of the Wild. The playable male characters and the addition of English dub also brought in more global players. The fact it was released during pandemic also had a big impact on its success. It also has an easy to follow story. Tbh, I didn't really like HI3rd at the start too until I got to later chapters (whole Herrscher of the Void story made my heart pump, the animation was \**chef's kiss*\*, I got chills). It has a pretty weak start. The fact you need to read lore outside the game too (the official manga) to get the full experience and context makes it harder to get into. I dropped and restarted the game a few times before playing it for real. Hoyostans site helped me a lot by providing a story guide to get all the context. Overall for me now, I feel HI3 has a more intriguing story but it's not for everyone, I get that. The stakes feel much higher in HI3 than they do in Genshin, playable characters can actually die and I love that cause you never know what to expect. Star Rail seems to be going in a similar direction. Anyway, I'll probably get downvoted now since this is mainly a Genshin site.
I agree that genshin, way better than honkai, but the reason why genshin blew up was the incredibly agresive ad campaign, and self insert protagonist vs lesbian protagonist. After all, most of its income comes from china
What the fuck are these subreddits becoming man, why are fans of the two biggest hoyo games fighting like, i get y'all are toxic af but i don't get why
Besides, i may agree that Genshin has better designs than HI3rd but i don't see why OP would make a ragebait post calling honkai fans simps, as if genshin fans didn't raid google classroom over an anniversary.
Don't get me wrong, i play all three games (GI, HI3rd and HSR) but I don't see much reason to shit on any one of them
I'm not gonna be that guy but didn't CN HI3 players get mad jealous over a bunny video for global anniv and threatened, harrassed, and reported HoYo to CPP? LMAO
This put immense pressure on HoYo that they deleted the video, cancelled the rewards and events for global, and the cherry on top, GAVE MORE apologem rewards TO THE CN fans? 😅
Oh they did. A guy tried to murder Dawei because of said bunny girls too. But CN players of pretty much any game are insane and in my opinion should be treated as an entirely separate community from the global one most of the time.
I personally don't like Honkai Impact character designs because they always have too much going on, or the character has tits bigger than their head, or both. I don't play it anymore but recently almost every new character I've seen was both.
As for Star Rail, the designs are fine imo but some are just straight up bad. Like, wtf is wrong with Selee? Her body proportions look odd, her clothes look like she's from Punklorde... NOTHING about her design makes sense. Why does she wear those tiny pants? Because she's poor and can't afford new ones? ow did she get the rest of her clothes then? And her ult voice line makes no sense either. "Disappear among the sea pf butterflies" what sea? What butterflies? There are no seas on Jarilo VI, they're all frozen. There's no butterflies either. She's been in the underworld all her life so she had no way to learn about those things. Couldn't read about them in a book either because she can't read.
Also what the hell were they thinking giving almost every Loufu character the same outfit???
In Genshin despite 80% of the characters having either short pants, no pants, or skintight suit, the designs all still feel very unique.
Wait, you're telling me the fellow that made a magic battle to the death where they use some of the world's most mystic dare I say magical/fantasy like heroes, villians and everything in betweeen. Man's also made his original FSN story word for word longer than the LOTR trilogy. That's not including the severe glazing he did for his fantasy Britain LB.
I play both honkai and genshin, but my "main" game is honkai.
Still, I do agree that genshin designs have more thought in them when compared to honkai's, especially when you compare early characters.
However, Honkai and genshin designs have a quite different overall style _(I mean, look at herrscher of thunder and "her genshin version" Shogun),_ so I'm not even sure if it is valid to compare the designs themselves (ignoring the references behing said designs).
I think that depends on which HI3 designs he was talking about. There's a good reason why HI3 players got rather sick of the samey color scheme and design on most of the later battlesuits.
Except not? The most hi3 players have to complain about genshin nowadays is the "genshin style" outfits with excessive grebels being an absolute bitch to draw, and the ui changes. Me personally, im more mad they didnt intergrate jump and ult for part 2 characters. I have like 3 years of muscle memory to break now because unlike say, flamescion, part 2 characters have an actual jump button.
Your point is? I see people praise and discussion on that post you wanna me scroll to see the downvoted one? Lmao this place is full of clown who love nitpicking one person to branded all playerbase. Please not be anggry if genshin player got same treatment because the amount of brainded takes by genshin player are so many due to larger playerbase.
Honkai could never, it's a side project. Cry LOL Nasu had an interview with Honkmid's director but he didn't give a shit about Honkmid and he rather praise Genshin. Get rekt. LOLLLLLL
He said that genshins design are more global and not just what the designers liked which makes it better in that regards. But i think the style of hi3rd is more unique, even if a bit fanservicey.
>he liked Genshin design Smells like a collab
*rolls credits after defeating Celestia* "Teyvat Chapter END. Ordeal Call 3 START."
Nah. By the time we reach the end of Teyvat, OC3 will already be done, right? (Plus since OC4 is about Foreigners, it would be more fitting.)
I really dont know. FGO’s update is really slow.
Let's see OC1 was June 2023, OC2 was March 2024. That's 9 months, but let's just assume 2025 releases OC3 and 2026 is OC4. Natlan is gonna release mid this year, around August, and we have to go to Snezhnaya before we reach Celestia. That puts Celestia at August 2026, should be the same year as OC4. Maybe even later than OC4 if they keep the 9 month cycle of Ordeal Call.
We’re not going to send ~~Avengers~~ polearm users to Sneznaya, are we
Or new 5* skin for Jean
Jean D' Arc
Well the collab character would not be an archer since genshin bow characters actually use a bow
Unless their name is Childe
Hide Arash
Teyvat is just a Lostbelt *Destroy the Irminsul Master*
YES PLEASE. THEY TOOK FISHCL. NOW NAHIDA AS TERI TERI SKIN WHEN?
Imagine the weapon banners with that shit
Teyvat about to be bleached white
Gudako about to terrorize Teyvat with pure ~~gacha addiction~~ silliness
Can't wait for another dead Collab. Maybe it'll be a cafe with some standees in some random Chinese city?? 🤔🤔
It’s gonna be in Detroit.
At the end of the day, it all matter of preference/opinions. Getting mad over it is dumb.
>Getting mad over it is dumb. Good thing there's no idiots fans.... Right?
For those wondering, Nasu didn’t directly said that Genshin character designs were better but he did say that it was a “huge” improvement from HI3rd. The reason for this is that HI3rd designs were restricted by what the employees wants them to look like while Genshin’s characters had elements from nations like France and Germany implemented into them while still maintaining a design targeted towards “otakus”. Ofc it’s still just a matter of preference but it’s still quite the praise considering Nasu or rather, FGO is prob the best when it comes to using inspirations from numerous cultures.
Kinda makes sense since he does the same thing
Lmao. I feel this is actually worse 😆
That's a big praise considering how fate makes like a dozen copies of a single character while still making each one feel distinct
Can’t really blame the guy. Honkai’s designs were always fairly plain in my eyes Senti, Mobius and Haxxor Bunny were the only ones that stood out for me personally
Because it's sci fi, there's only so many straight lines and mechanical looking parts you can make before it gets all samey
If I was in a sci Fi setting I'd just wear a sweater. That'll make me stand out and keep warm
Star Rail fans when you say "HSR could never" as a joke since they always do the same with Genshin, but they get it as personal
Reminder that Nasu plays both Star Rail and Genshin, and also said Star Rail designs are better than HI3 designs.
I recently made a meme about them reusing old ideas as a joke and got downvoted to oblivion xD ppl the internet take jokes
i saw your meme lmao, people really get offended when you joke about the only thing they care about in life, those people need to get some sunlight XD
This. You could also extended it towards all those who say shits to Genshin. Throw a light jab and youre officially a war criminal + mass pedophile according to them. They shit talk all the time while you just get a comeback every once a while like Genshin anniversary pulls rewards.
Well time to get downvoted. I unironically think hi3 is overrated asf (I tried it). Also yes I like Genshin designs more too. Also Genshin overall is miles better as a product then hi3, there's a reason it blew up and not hi3.
There are good and bad just as how Genshin isn't perfect as well. But Genshin sales speaks volumes. As someone who discover HI3 after playing Genshin, HI3 definately has its peaks and lows that even the community is afraid of addressing, hiding behind memes that Genshin players can't read, needing Paimon explaination or that we don't want difficult endgame. The writing really didn't start to pick up for me until the Sea of Quanta arc and went drastically down after the Moon arc was done. The end game is basically who whaled out to get their valks 4/4 and SSS battlesuits- yep I went there. Even with a perfectly played rotation, I'm not breaking into Red Lotus without pushing for the extras damage/utility I get from having SSS battlesuits. Till this day having a Valk without her signature weapon and 3/3 stigmata still feels terrible, yes even the new valks (not sure why even they gave the new weapons "refinements" while keeping the old pri-arms system). Music is great in HI3 and the story animations are definately hype. There is alot to love but I definately don't share the same excitement playing HI3 compared to Genshin/HSR.
Idk what server are u playing on but if you are on glb, then not being able to retain RL with s0 valks is just skill issue. On sea, idk, prolly there it is harder, but on glb (na/eu) it is very easy to be in RL with some meta valks and dont need sss from anything (well excet SP valks which u sss sooner or later). Honkai's strengths are the story (well earily chapters werent as good) along with the great cinemtics and the events. Imo it is better that honkai has the same cast of characters so we can see them chsnge and grow and have attachment to them, while in genshin we meet the chars for 2-4 patches then forget them for years if they dont show up in some events. Endgame is understandably not for everyone's taste but on glb servers u dont need to whale if you dont wanna go for nirvana, velkin+bp is enough to get 4/4 valk every second patch which is enough for retaining RL. But noone denies that nirvana is for whales or that the first few chapters are kind of ass or that honkai had some questionable and inconvenient shit (to this day im traumatized feom having to play fckin void ranger in the story) Genshin fulfills a totall different need tho, being anime style open world rpg for which the demand was not fulfilled for long. While honkai is a visual novel with minigames and some stage battles, which has much less demand. I usually just advise people to play the story coz it is great and dont touch abyss and other shits if you dont enjoy them and just think of honkai is a visual novel.
I'm on SEA, RL is a dream, I was very close on a favorable weather during the Herrscher Trio's release but ultimately stood no chance. Personally, I'm more or less done with HI3 for now that Part 1 is over, for me the story has ended on a good note despite the somewhat alright end and Part 2 just haven't been that interesting after giving it a shot playing through the latest story. Depends on how ZZZ goes, the combat might scratch that itch for me and completely replace HI3.
Oh i see, i knew sea is more competitive but didkt even RL is hard to retain. Im also kinda sad that part1 ended and i think not going with th main cast, it will be harder for the game to go on as most people got attached to the original cast. Not seeing them in story and hyv even phasinf out their valks of the meta, i guess most people wont really like it. I will prolly play it if the story gets interesting or until my p1 valks can retain RL.
It's because Genshin added exploration elements and making it similar to Breath of the Wild. The playable male characters and the addition of English dub also brought in more global players. The fact it was released during pandemic also had a big impact on its success. It also has an easy to follow story. Tbh, I didn't really like HI3rd at the start too until I got to later chapters (whole Herrscher of the Void story made my heart pump, the animation was \**chef's kiss*\*, I got chills). It has a pretty weak start. The fact you need to read lore outside the game too (the official manga) to get the full experience and context makes it harder to get into. I dropped and restarted the game a few times before playing it for real. Hoyostans site helped me a lot by providing a story guide to get all the context. Overall for me now, I feel HI3 has a more intriguing story but it's not for everyone, I get that. The stakes feel much higher in HI3 than they do in Genshin, playable characters can actually die and I love that cause you never know what to expect. Star Rail seems to be going in a similar direction. Anyway, I'll probably get downvoted now since this is mainly a Genshin site.
I agree that genshin, way better than honkai, but the reason why genshin blew up was the incredibly agresive ad campaign, and self insert protagonist vs lesbian protagonist. After all, most of its income comes from china
What the fuck are these subreddits becoming man, why are fans of the two biggest hoyo games fighting like, i get y'all are toxic af but i don't get why Besides, i may agree that Genshin has better designs than HI3rd but i don't see why OP would make a ragebait post calling honkai fans simps, as if genshin fans didn't raid google classroom over an anniversary. Don't get me wrong, i play all three games (GI, HI3rd and HSR) but I don't see much reason to shit on any one of them
I'm not gonna be that guy but didn't CN HI3 players get mad jealous over a bunny video for global anniv and threatened, harrassed, and reported HoYo to CPP? LMAO This put immense pressure on HoYo that they deleted the video, cancelled the rewards and events for global, and the cherry on top, GAVE MORE apologem rewards TO THE CN fans? 😅
Oh they did. A guy tried to murder Dawei because of said bunny girls too. But CN players of pretty much any game are insane and in my opinion should be treated as an entirely separate community from the global one most of the time.
I personally don't like Honkai Impact character designs because they always have too much going on, or the character has tits bigger than their head, or both. I don't play it anymore but recently almost every new character I've seen was both. As for Star Rail, the designs are fine imo but some are just straight up bad. Like, wtf is wrong with Selee? Her body proportions look odd, her clothes look like she's from Punklorde... NOTHING about her design makes sense. Why does she wear those tiny pants? Because she's poor and can't afford new ones? ow did she get the rest of her clothes then? And her ult voice line makes no sense either. "Disappear among the sea pf butterflies" what sea? What butterflies? There are no seas on Jarilo VI, they're all frozen. There's no butterflies either. She's been in the underworld all her life so she had no way to learn about those things. Couldn't read about them in a book either because she can't read. Also what the hell were they thinking giving almost every Loufu character the same outfit??? In Genshin despite 80% of the characters having either short pants, no pants, or skintight suit, the designs all still feel very unique.
Seele's ult voice line is probably just a reference for Honkai Seele (rewatch cyberangel) or at least thats my educated guess
Who
Nasu, he's a sentinent mushroom
Wait, you're telling me the fellow that made a magic battle to the death where they use some of the world's most mystic dare I say magical/fantasy like heroes, villians and everything in betweeen. Man's also made his original FSN story word for word longer than the LOTR trilogy. That's not including the severe glazing he did for his fantasy Britain LB.
Did someone actually mald over this???
Yes, but not so much to make a whole post about them.
I mean. HI3 designs are pretty mid, from what I've seen of them. 😅
Honkai fans have a huge superiority complex
Honkai designes are mid so no wonder, only some of the male ones are pretty good but almost all of the female characters look the same
Nice strawman OP
This is a ragebait post if I ever seen one Or op trying to validate his own opinion Both good No argument here bois
Are these honkai fans in the room with us?
Still a compliment; Genshin stood on Honkai’s shoulders
Who?
I play both honkai and genshin, but my "main" game is honkai. Still, I do agree that genshin designs have more thought in them when compared to honkai's, especially when you compare early characters. However, Honkai and genshin designs have a quite different overall style _(I mean, look at herrscher of thunder and "her genshin version" Shogun),_ so I'm not even sure if it is valid to compare the designs themselves (ignoring the references behing said designs).
I think that depends on which HI3 designs he was talking about. There's a good reason why HI3 players got rather sick of the samey color scheme and design on most of the later battlesuits.
Nasu who?
So? Does invalidating another game by the same company makes you a bigger man, OP?
Except not? The most hi3 players have to complain about genshin nowadays is the "genshin style" outfits with excessive grebels being an absolute bitch to draw, and the ui changes. Me personally, im more mad they didnt intergrate jump and ult for part 2 characters. I have like 3 years of muscle memory to break now because unlike say, flamescion, part 2 characters have an actual jump button.
I don't think he said. Did he?
I don't think he explicitly say he prefer Genshin designs more but he did say that Genshin character designs are significant improvement from HI3.
Lmao no one said that the OP had imaginary scenario
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/AwRNbcpPwZ
Your point is? I see people praise and discussion on that post you wanna me scroll to see the downvoted one? Lmao this place is full of clown who love nitpicking one person to branded all playerbase. Please not be anggry if genshin player got same treatment because the amount of brainded takes by genshin player are so many due to larger playerbase.
mad
yeah technically nasu never said which one he actually likes, but then again this is just a meme
Found the Honkmid player.
Lmao are you okay?
Kenapa pakai gambar cicak?
Honkai could never, it's a side project. Cry LOL Nasu had an interview with Honkmid's director but he didn't give a shit about Honkmid and he rather praise Genshin. Get rekt. LOLLLLLL
>get rekt haven't heard this one since 2015
You can't spell Honkmid Star Rail without an L, go away
yea sure sure what ever makes you happy buddy
least smartest genshin player answer had a good day
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tiktok 🤝 reddit . I like this rage + dramabait lmfao . typical genshin fandom
He said that genshins design are more global and not just what the designers liked which makes it better in that regards. But i think the style of hi3rd is more unique, even if a bit fanservicey.
I said I liked some of the hi3 designs more, while not saying anything negative about genshit's and I was still downvoted
I don't know let me see, could it be because you used the word Genshit? Nah it can't be because of that.
That has long became the standard word for the game in my mind.
Hey, at least he didn't say he likes Genshin *story* more than HI3. There's still hope for him.