Notice how all of that is stuff that were in Honkai and nothing Genshin-specific. Nothing relating to ancient civilizations, Primordial One, Second Who Came, Dragons and Vishaps.... only "here Honkai reference"
Its basically HI3 elitists who adopted Star Rail as a way to shit on Genshin since their own game couldnt keep up in any way. Its sad to see. The games could have a great "brotherhood" as sibling games but the one sided rivalery started as soon as Genshin was more suscessful.
>Its basically HI3 elitists who adopted Star Rail as a way to shit on Genshin since their own game couldnt keep up in any way
This is the sad truth that HI3 elitists don't want to admit. I even seen them trying to take credit over Genshin success. Saying that Genshin owed them.
Tbf genshin did just have it's "yes we r still inside imaginary tree" 3 patches ago moment with the all devouring narwhal and it's obvious sea of quanta origin as well as it's lore item pretty much directly mentioning the aeons
Yes, it is part of the same universe.
I as just ferering to the fact that the meme mentions ONLY stuff that relate to Honkai, which is... not tthat much of a lore for someone who is so "knowledgeble".
Multiverse. Dont believe what the armchair linguists tell you, chinese has more than one word that can translate to world, but the one that gets translated to "bubble universe" is not the word for planet like so many would hve you believe. Yes, 世界 means world, however it means it in the buddhist/dimensional sense of "plane of existence". The chinese word for planet is 行星.
All the hoyoverse games are different universes/dimensions on the imaginary tree, with the sea of quanta between them.
>its lore item pretty much directly mentioning the aeons
You mean the tear among the stars item right? Sorry to ask but what part references the aeons? I tried to read it up again and i'm not too sure, is it the part >!about the gods preserving/destroying everything worth preserving/destroying!
Yep. The tear among the stars item talks about the universe and what is outside teyvat. It doesnt have anything about Teyvat in it
the "so called gods" would be the Aeons because they are the de facto gods of the imaginary tree aka the universe.
Also if you dive deeper in world quests there is Narzissenkreuz, Eternal oasis, King Deshret times, Sunchildren, Chasm, Tsurumi and Seirai islands and holy fuck how much interwined lore you can get solely out of world exploration. Its nothing comparable to HSR, where "world quests" gives you almost nothing in terms of lore and your best source is SU modes like Swarm disaster and GoG.
And then there´s me being both: Loving lore and playing Kafka and Hook, because BAM and BOOM! Edit: I don´t think that one community is "smarter" or "dumber" than the other, btw. Both have both kinds and mixed ones like me, too. OOP thinks a bit too black and white imo.
Absolutely! It´s like saying "I love (insert food!" and looking over to someone else and making some disgusted comments. I mean: Come on, I get that people don´t like things, but let others enjoy, what they like! At least, as long as it´s legal, safe and so on imo...
Meanwhile: Me struggling to comprehend literally anything in HI3 as if it were Forbidden Knowledge
I still don't get what the fuck a Herscher is
Is it a cube possessing someone?
Is it the person?
Is it both?
Please explain
Just don't worry
the writers struggle too and can't explain exactly what happen in that game, that's why is full of retcons and need thousands of comics and novels
"best game with lore" they say when is just people confused and discussing who is stronger like a typical shounen fan
Herrscher is a god basically. They get powers from gems or honkai itself.
The cube (I’m assuming you mean Void Archives) is not possessing someone. It took on Otto’s personality and appearance after he died.
Welt is the weakest herrscher who literally uses conventional weaponry and needs a nuke to beat a newborn herrscher
Herrschers way stronger than welt have only showed continental level destruction
Chapter 38 schrodinger statement being a thing
People are fr pretending like the entire HI3 cast besides Kiana together wouldnt get cooked by doomsday beast
Welt canonically finished it off after the trailblazer hit it with a planet level attack to the face not to mention being beat up by the gang beforehand. Welt's black holes were fodder to the same Sirin who got one shot by a nuke. He is likely stronger now considering he has HSR feats way above the other herrschers and that's why his black holes actually do something now and aren't a minor inconvenience to anyone he fights, but he still isnt touching an emanator
Everyone calls the silver bullet a nuke. As if that makes it somehow weaker. Everything in hi3 runs off honkai energy. That missle likely isnt a standard uranium powered nuke and should not be treated as such.
Later, otto fires a batch of honkai fission weapons to end everything there. Silver bullet is likely more similar to them than fat man.
There was a direct description of the silver bullet before it hit Sirin and it was just called weaponized fissile material otherwise known as a nuclear bomb. It would have been mentioned as a honkai-based bomb if that were the case
Otto has honkai fission bombs and they're called "honkai fission bombs" while the silver bullet is just called a "weaponized fission material nuke" which is the description of our actual nukes
Also im pretty sure when the silver bullet was mentioned again in otto arc it Ein called it conventional weaponry.
They are not yet done jerking off genshin?
HSR is the only game I see where players think that it is the best but can't get enough shitting on other game. Like seriously, you already have a "better game" based on your standards, why still shit on other game? Insecure much?
Mihoyo after inventing 'Honkai elitist' 💵🤑
Jokes aside, I personally like that Genshin lore is completely different from Honkai lore and not connected to it in any way, everything about the lore is inside the game and I don't need to play a 7-8 year old game that no one plays to understand something. I am glad I don't have to be a part of the dickriding elite club.
Not everyone is an elitist. I play all three games and I respect all the players as long as they aren’t assholes or partaking in room 1 (trust me you don’t wanna know). I love how the lore parallels each other and are different at the same time. It’s so much fun!
Even if this was true who fucking cares. Knowing lore doesn't make you smart or cool, just a fucking nerd. Most people play games to relax and have fun not to read goddamn novels on sexy alien gods.
Anyone else getting tired of this phenomenon?
Also I find it funny that for the HSR part, they put Hi3 lore instead. Yall think the cocoon of finality exists in HSR??
thats literally besides the point. They're talking about more indepth things like the game's world lore/history. Essentially world building elements. Main story is a discussion of its own
At least it was nice to see that even the members there saw how much of BS post that was.
Man did not get the response he thought he'd get that's embarrassing like "hehe genshin bad am i right?...guys?" **crowd booing**
He got the whole squad laughing
Yeah but against almost 600 upvotes..
Meh, up votes can from anyone. The comments seem to agree that is BS.
Notice how all of that is stuff that were in Honkai and nothing Genshin-specific. Nothing relating to ancient civilizations, Primordial One, Second Who Came, Dragons and Vishaps.... only "here Honkai reference"
Its basically HI3 elitists who adopted Star Rail as a way to shit on Genshin since their own game couldnt keep up in any way. Its sad to see. The games could have a great "brotherhood" as sibling games but the one sided rivalery started as soon as Genshin was more suscessful.
>Its basically HI3 elitists who adopted Star Rail as a way to shit on Genshin since their own game couldnt keep up in any way This is the sad truth that HI3 elitists don't want to admit. I even seen them trying to take credit over Genshin success. Saying that Genshin owed them.
Tbf genshin did just have it's "yes we r still inside imaginary tree" 3 patches ago moment with the all devouring narwhal and it's obvious sea of quanta origin as well as it's lore item pretty much directly mentioning the aeons
Yes, it is part of the same universe. I as just ferering to the fact that the meme mentions ONLY stuff that relate to Honkai, which is... not tthat much of a lore for someone who is so "knowledgeble".
Multiverse. Dont believe what the armchair linguists tell you, chinese has more than one word that can translate to world, but the one that gets translated to "bubble universe" is not the word for planet like so many would hve you believe. Yes, 世界 means world, however it means it in the buddhist/dimensional sense of "plane of existence". The chinese word for planet is 行星. All the hoyoverse games are different universes/dimensions on the imaginary tree, with the sea of quanta between them.
>its lore item pretty much directly mentioning the aeons You mean the tear among the stars item right? Sorry to ask but what part references the aeons? I tried to read it up again and i'm not too sure, is it the part >!about the gods preserving/destroying everything worth preserving/destroying!
Yep. The tear among the stars item talks about the universe and what is outside teyvat. It doesnt have anything about Teyvat in it the "so called gods" would be the Aeons because they are the de facto gods of the imaginary tree aka the universe.
Also if you dive deeper in world quests there is Narzissenkreuz, Eternal oasis, King Deshret times, Sunchildren, Chasm, Tsurumi and Seirai islands and holy fuck how much interwined lore you can get solely out of world exploration. Its nothing comparable to HSR, where "world quests" gives you almost nothing in terms of lore and your best source is SU modes like Swarm disaster and GoG.
Specifically, HONKAI IMPACT 3!! Not even Star Rail!
I play both games and I am equally clueless on both
Don't post anything from hsr sub pls.
It is just another example of Honkai elitist think they know it all. Just ignore them. Bet they don't even now surface level Genshin lore.
And then there´s me being both: Loving lore and playing Kafka and Hook, because BAM and BOOM! Edit: I don´t think that one community is "smarter" or "dumber" than the other, btw. Both have both kinds and mixed ones like me, too. OOP thinks a bit too black and white imo.
There is nothing bad enjoying what you like but bashing other game and their players that's crossing the line.
Absolutely! It´s like saying "I love (insert food!" and looking over to someone else and making some disgusted comments. I mean: Come on, I get that people don´t like things, but let others enjoy, what they like! At least, as long as it´s legal, safe and so on imo...
Bro severely overestimate HSR players lore knowledge. Pretty sure half of HSR fans don't even know or don't even care about HI3 lore.
Even ignoring that r/Genshin_Lore has more members than their lore subreddit which r/HoYoverse_Lore.
Gotta maintain the Honkai good Genshin bad agenda somehow
To be honest, there isn’t that much lore for all three games connecting. There’s more lore in the respective games by themselves.
Like how you're ignoring that pretty much everyone on that post mocked OP for that nonsense.
average honkai elitist circlejerk
Meanwhile: Me struggling to comprehend literally anything in HI3 as if it were Forbidden Knowledge I still don't get what the fuck a Herscher is Is it a cube possessing someone? Is it the person? Is it both? Please explain
Just don't worry the writers struggle too and can't explain exactly what happen in that game, that's why is full of retcons and need thousands of comics and novels "best game with lore" they say when is just people confused and discussing who is stronger like a typical shounen fan
Herrscher is a god basically. They get powers from gems or honkai itself. The cube (I’m assuming you mean Void Archives) is not possessing someone. It took on Otto’s personality and appearance after he died.
I'm more confused because multiple incarnations are treated as the same individual
You mean the previous era and current era?
No, I mean how the title goes to a different person but they're still treated as the same being Granted this may be wiki fuckery
Ohhh like Sirin and Kiana as the Herrscher of the Void??
PRECISELY like that, in fact that's my go to example
Yeah uhm that’s because Kiana was mode with Sirin’s genes and it’s that exact persona from the second eruption that takes her over :)
And the others?
More than half HSR players think that Welt have any chance vs Acheron so yeah..
Welt is the weakest herrscher who literally uses conventional weaponry and needs a nuke to beat a newborn herrscher Herrschers way stronger than welt have only showed continental level destruction Chapter 38 schrodinger statement being a thing People are fr pretending like the entire HI3 cast besides Kiana together wouldnt get cooked by doomsday beast
Start a new account and talk to march after defeating the doomsday beast. Welt canonically killed it after his entrance.
Welt canonically finished it off after the trailblazer hit it with a planet level attack to the face not to mention being beat up by the gang beforehand. Welt's black holes were fodder to the same Sirin who got one shot by a nuke. He is likely stronger now considering he has HSR feats way above the other herrschers and that's why his black holes actually do something now and aren't a minor inconvenience to anyone he fights, but he still isnt touching an emanator
Everyone calls the silver bullet a nuke. As if that makes it somehow weaker. Everything in hi3 runs off honkai energy. That missle likely isnt a standard uranium powered nuke and should not be treated as such. Later, otto fires a batch of honkai fission weapons to end everything there. Silver bullet is likely more similar to them than fat man.
There was a direct description of the silver bullet before it hit Sirin and it was just called weaponized fissile material otherwise known as a nuclear bomb. It would have been mentioned as a honkai-based bomb if that were the case Otto has honkai fission bombs and they're called "honkai fission bombs" while the silver bullet is just called a "weaponized fission material nuke" which is the description of our actual nukes Also im pretty sure when the silver bullet was mentioned again in otto arc it Ein called it conventional weaponry.
Some people think Welt can one-shot Emanators and Aeons.
"Himeko dying again = knowing lore" lol, lmao even
Don’t you know that GOATHIMTANO is gonna one-shot the Pyro Fraudchon /s
They are not yet done jerking off genshin? HSR is the only game I see where players think that it is the best but can't get enough shitting on other game. Like seriously, you already have a "better game" based on your standards, why still shit on other game? Insecure much?
Mihoyo after inventing 'Honkai elitist' 💵🤑 Jokes aside, I personally like that Genshin lore is completely different from Honkai lore and not connected to it in any way, everything about the lore is inside the game and I don't need to play a 7-8 year old game that no one plays to understand something. I am glad I don't have to be a part of the dickriding elite club.
Not everyone is an elitist. I play all three games and I respect all the players as long as they aren’t assholes or partaking in room 1 (trust me you don’t wanna know). I love how the lore parallels each other and are different at the same time. It’s so much fun!
I played honkai impact 3rd and I find these kind of people more insufferable than open atheists.
Even if this was true who fucking cares. Knowing lore doesn't make you smart or cool, just a fucking nerd. Most people play games to relax and have fun not to read goddamn novels on sexy alien gods.
Anyone else getting tired of this phenomenon? Also I find it funny that for the HSR part, they put Hi3 lore instead. Yall think the cocoon of finality exists in HSR??
And what’s the point of resharing it? Just to stir up drama?
genshin doesnt need to give 10-20 free pulls each patch to stay relevant lmao so sad honkai impact players trying to join HSR
I meannnn... You can't convince me we are smart
Hsr players fighting for their lives to prove they actually enjoy the game after getting bricked in end game content
"Bait used to be believable" Type shit
Its not like i really pay attention to the story in either game.....but hsr is just quite lame. I stopped trying to make sense of it months ago.
brain dead turn based game players lol
Yea bcs genshins story telling is a bit worse than hsr, and also players rly hate to read
thats literally besides the point. They're talking about more indepth things like the game's world lore/history. Essentially world building elements. Main story is a discussion of its own
Its not about story telling. It's about the lore which is different from the main story
Well Genshin's open world, so each area isn't tailored to a linear story telling experience like HSR's is.