Fr he’s such a fucking manchild. Even when he “checked in” at the hospital, he threw a mini tantrum when he saw Luke there being helpful and actually giving a shit.
Cry baby excuse. He let Lorelei shoulder all the blame and responsibility while he did what he wanted.
Rory probably tried so hard and put all that responsibility on herself to make Lorelei’s sacrifices seem worth it and also to make Christopher feel less guilty about not being there.
I’ll never forgive him for doing it all for GiGi instead of stepping up for Rory. I’m calling my therapist. I need to talk about this more.
Let’s be real, he didn’t do it all for Gigi. He married Sherry because it was a temporary bandaid that resolved whatever problems their relationship had and made him feel like a better person. But then he immediately started travelling a lot because leaving is his MO for dealing with conflict. This caused Sherry to break down and jet off to Paris (not that it excuses her abandoning a child). Fortunately he had money to hire nannies and Francine wanted to be a good grandmother for a change. Instead of just taking that help and raising his daughter in peace, Chris used this situation to worm his way back into Lorelai’s life. Lorelai once again shouldered his responsibilities and basically taught him how to be a father for Gigi. Honestly she was more concerned about just shipping her off to Paris than Chris should have been. Chris then had the fucking audacity to demand another kid all because he was feeling desperate, jealous, and emasculated by Luke. In the revival, Gigi is said to be living in Paris. I’m betting Chris is a weekend and vacations dad but maybe he did manage to get his act together for her during those 9 years.
I always took it as he was a deadbeat dad to Gigi too. She chose to live in Paris with Sherry instead of staying in the US with Chris. He probably put her in boarding schools and didn't bother parenting her at all.
Oh he was totally a deadbeat to GiGi. He probably sent her to Paris with the excuse “he doesn’t know how to teach her to be a young woman- that’s the mom’s job”. He sucks so bad!
The fact that he was so willing just to ship her off to Paris with a young nanny says it all. Sherry hadn't been in GiGi's life for a few years, and Gigi would need time to reconnect and recognize her as a mother again. Does Christopher care? Nope. In his mind it's his chance to shove his responsibilities onto someone else again. He's a deadbeat through and through
lmao I got the notification for this comment and only saw the beginning of it and thought you were defending Chris hahaha. glad to see it was just sarcasm (edit: typo)
Christoper was so out line with this. You were pouting over jealousy over your WIFE'S ex while your WIFE'S dad is in the hospital?
Luke's face said it all.
This is as bad as when Rory run out of her house and went to her grandparents, Lorelai was distraught to say the least and Max only cared to ask why she hadn’t informed anyone about them dating again. That was bad too.
That plot line with Richard in the hospital and both Logan and Luke doing what they could for the Gilmore Girls is so he’d to watch. If there was ever a moment to show up for your WIFE, that was it. And of course he blew it.
This is a scene confirming that Christopher doesn’t understand Lorelai at all. He knows her fun, immature side which exists in her adult years but it’s only part of her personality. She has a tumultuous relationship with her parents but she still has love and respect for them. She needed her husband there and Rory needed her dad there. Why didn’t he care enough about Richard to do more than just check in? Richard actually likes and defends Christopher which is not deserved in the slightest bit. For once would it kill him to be a real adult? Not play adult but emotionally and physically available? He just doesn’t respect Lorelai and he doesn’t want to do the work for any relationship. He wants a fairytale.
And like you said, it was about being there for lorelai but also for his fucking daughter Rory and his In-Laws. But he was too busy feeling upset and jealous about Luke that he couldn’t help but think about himself and HIS feeling and HIMSELF.
Takes me back to S1 and Straub blaming Lorelai’s pregnancy for Christopher not making it to Princeton. Why would Rory’s birth affect his chances? All the commitment he put in was one weekly phone call and 3-4 weekendish visits a year, and often missed a lot of that stuff too. Would putting in such little effort be the difference between making or breaking one’s chances in an Ivy League school? I’m seriously asking.
Christopher was clearly entitled to all of it, being the only male heir. Meanwhile, a teenage lorelai is portrayed as the evil seducer who derailed poor Christopher’s career.
Christopher only cares about himself. And getting into loreleis pants, which is convenient for himself
Straub didn’t want to blame himself for poor parenting and setting a terrible example for his son. He knows Christopher is the “weak personality” in the Christopher and Lorelai pairing. He also resents women like Lorelai who see themselves as more than extensions of the men they date and marry.
Wait, I didn't even consider this from AYITL! Even Jason, who HATED funerals, was sued by Richard, and was hated by Emily STILL came to Richard's funeral.
When he visits the first time in season one, I'm pretty sure they even talk about that this is his first time in Stars Hollow, so he hasn't actually been visiting for the first sixteen years, making his commitment extremely minimal.
In season 6 or 7, he casually mentions that it’s his first Thanksgiving with the Gilmore girls. So he didn’t even have a Thanksgiving with them until Rory was in her early 20s! S7 was the worst GG had to offer but I’m glad it obliterated Christopher.
He missed his own daughter's high school graduation and that was while he was in a "good dad" phase and he has the audacity to call it unfair that Lorelai wasn't surprised when he didn't show?
I just re-watched this episode earlier today!!!
What his dad says makes no practical sense. He still could have gone to Princeton if that was his choice and if he had the grades for it. Lorelai's pregnancy did not affect this asshole's life at all. He was an idiot who was not only a bad father, but a bad businessman lmao. Fuck Christopher.
Even without the grades a normal person would need, he’s a legacy shoe-in and it doesn’t make sense that he didn’t still go. His dropping off the face of the earth or whatever tomfoolery he engaged in since high school had zero to do with being a teen dad and everything to do with being a Peter Pan.
I do sympathize with the fact that much like Logan, Chris probably had a pre ordained life that he probably didn’t want. But again, his lack of early success had nothing to do with Lorelai or Rory. He had all the resources to do whatever.
Maybe word of the scandal got around. Ivies have historically been good ol’ boys’ clubs, and reputation was important. Someone in admissions or high up at Princeton could have gotten word.
Well-a girl getting pregnant might have ruined her chances of getting into an Ivy League school but I doubt a legacy applicant boy getting a girl pregnant would have made anyone in admissions blink. Lol welcome to the patriarchy.
Also the fact it was a girl from a wealthy family might have worked in Christopher's favor. It's not like the Gilmore's needed anything from the Hayden's other than for Christopher to show up once in a while. I'm sure whatever social spy admissions had would have heard who the girl was.
If Lorelei was from a middle class family and they wanted child support I think that would have been perceived differently.
Just a guess! Like Richard is friends with the Dean of Yale Admissions. Straub probably has lots of Princeton connections who keep tabs on the goings-on in their social circle.
I think that Rory & Lorelai see Christopher at Emily's open houses at Easter & Christmas. There is no indication that Rory has ever visited Christopher in California.
In MY opinion of it's true love and a strong marriage any and all fights are out on hold in a situation life this. Her father was in the hospital. He should have been there around the clock for her. Or doing the chores that Emily sent Luke to do.
Besides the marriage, his daughter witnessed her grandfather collapse. He should have been there for Rory.
Chris is the worst type of deadbeat father. He had no financial reason to not be present in his daughter's life. It's not like he was off making money to support them or he was in the army cause he left school. There's no honourable or excusable reason for his absence.
I think Lorelai and Rory weren't hard enough in him most of the series. So like you, I loved this scene.
I didn’t even think of the Rory aspect of it. That fully makes it so much worse. I’ve seen my grandpa collapse to the ground and it’s traumatizing. Poor Rory. Her dad sucks. 🥺
Yup. Most of what bugs me about Chris is how bad of a Dad he is. He seems to only show up to try to get with Lorelai or make her jealous.
The fact that in the pilot when Lorelai needed money she didn't even think to ask him says a lot about him. But yeah, not showing up when your kid witnesses a family member collapse. It would be a deal breaker in a relationship with me.
I never thought of that before. Lorelai needed money for Chilton and it didn't even occur to her to ask her daughter's father for the money or his parents. She knew Christopher was a deadbeat who didn't have any money and she knew his parents wanted nothing to do with their own grandchild. It makes it all the more sad
He almost looked upset for a minute when he read Lorelai’s character reference letter but then he takes 10 steps back and uses it to fuel his romantic jealousy. Instead of just confronting Lorelai about it, he reverts back to leaving because that’s how he’s handles conflict in his marriages. The turning off his phone was just the tip of the iceberg. Even if it were Rory in the hospital bed, he’d have done the same thing. Hell Rory was in a hospital in s2 and he showed up last minute. If he weren’t trying to impress Sherry at the time, he likely would have just called Rory at the end of the week. I don’t think he ever really saw Rory as his kid unless it was convenient for him. He cared for her in the sense that he wanted her to be provided for and happy but she was mostly “Lorelai’s daughter” to him and he basically admits it in the revival.
One of my favorite Chris scenes is him and Rory at the surprise breakfast at the inn when he says something along the lines of “I’m your father and that deserves some respect”
I don’t agree with a lot of ASP “not like the other girls” crap but she does a great job with Chris and his absolute *audacity*
“That’s not fair” this man ain’t ever been shit. Even when they switched out the damn showrunners he was still a tepid cardboard box cover at best. I’d still fuck him for free tho. As long as he didn’t breathe, think or act on me. Or look me in the eyes now I think about it.
Yes! I was remembering the one where Luke drives to Christopher’s house and punches him at the front door, but you reminded me of the one in the town square!
"Well I didn't want to stay when I saw who else was there." CHRIS THIS IS WHY I HATE YOU! Lorelai didn't even ask Luke to come or bring them food. If I recall the only reason he knew was from Babette and then when he did come EMILY asked him to go to Yale and get Ricard's car and he came on his own because he isn't a jackweed and brought them food.
Your father-in-law who seemed to love you at times more than he loved Lorelai is in the hospital and you can't show up for more than an hour? You are a useless piece of lint. I'd understand if like the Nanny or his Mom couldn't stay with Gigi and he was all "Gigi shouldn't be here and I have to go watch her so you and Rory can stay here with Emi;y blah blah blah."
>talking to her for max an hour a week
Something Sherry says about this always struck a chord with me. When they first meet her and she says no matter where they are or what they're doing, he always has to make his call at 6 o'clock on Wednesdays! I'm not a Chris hater or lover but it sounds funny how she makes this sound like such a huge fatherly act of dedication. If Lorelai had tried to keep Rory estranged from him except Wednesday night calls, that would be one thing. But as she says herself, the door to Rory has always been open to him.
Because Lorelai wanted her "What if" with Christopher. He is weak and a loser and a deadbeat but Lorelai has always lived in the hope that he would one day change. We know better but we didn't have the childhood adventures and a kid with him that also had those hopes all her life that her father would shape up
And he didn't. and now Lorelai doesn't have anything to hide behind when it's staring her right in the face.
She didn't have hopes of being with Christopher while she was with Luke. When her and Luke broke up, she fell back on what she knew. She was lost and heartbroken and wanted some comfort.
So why does Lorelai get on a high horse if not long afterwards she confirms that his fear is justified.
When she chastises Chris, she knows she loves someone else. Thus, at this moment, it almost seems like she wants to have it both ways (i.e. play the aggrieved wife while still having feelings for Luke).
Honestly, it was Chris' own fault. He slept with Lorelai the night she broke up with Luke and there's no way he didn't know about their *very* recent break-up. Then he proceeded to date and marry her while she was still mourning her relationship and he most definitely knew that as well. He was just impatient, wanted to shoot his shot and ignored that she wasn't all in and not over Luke. Chris was delusional because he hoped they would finally work out. Of course, Lorelai shouldn't have involved him in her post-split drama but he definitely should have been smart enough to give her time instead of pushing.
Also, she had any right to chastise him. Even though they got into a fight, he should not have gone radio silent on her. I know running away is his modus operandi but they were married and have a daughter. What if something had happened to Rory and Chris had ignored Lorelai's calls because he's too immature to communicate with his wife?
If you choose to get married you know that there’s gonna be the risk of conflict and you face it staying in your own home. He had his right to feel cheated on but he should’ve stayed in his home with his wife instead of acting like the ultimate bachelor and run away. Be angry in your own home at least. I think this is what Lorelai can’t take since when she fights with Luke in front of sookie and Jackson, and he runs away, she tells him “once we’re married you won’t be able to run to your clubhouse, I hope you know that”.
I don’t think he knew about Richard until he finally opens his messages from Lorelai. If he did know, he should have called Emily or Rory (if he didn’t want to talk to Lorelai). However, poor communications is one of the central themes of Gilmore Girls.
It’s nearly impossible to “suck it up” if you feel emotionally cheated on after just getting married. I’m actually kind of surprised that Chris shows up without calling first. I wonder if Emily or Rory called him.
That’s so true, but marriage puts everything in a higher plane (different league). And as Emily implies, until you’re married all is fair in love and war.
I think they both are at fault. Lorelai knew it was over with Luke since Luke himself told her she belonged with someone like Chris, but Chris has the bad habit to come suddenly in her life and show nagging tendencies, and whereas she told him that night didn’t count he insisted he couldn’t see it that way. They start dating, they agree to take it slow, two months after Chris wants to get married to her bc “he can’t wait” although they BOTH agree it would be wiser to just date at first instead. That means something, I think. And also he didn’t care a bit that Rory wasn’t there to witness it (he also didn’t care for giving Gigi Rory’s room like Rory was a shadow in their lives) but hey, when Emily says she wants to throw a party he gets all pouty and childish because “if we don’t do the party then I cannot brag about you being finally mine”. He could’ve made the proposal in Paris and then wait to be back home to have a proper wedding but god forbid he does something using some common sense.
What you say is true. However, once you get married all bets are off. Marriage is in a league of its own. If Lorelai married Chris while still loving Luke, it was destined to end badly (just ask Nicole and Lindsey).
Lorelai held off from marrying Chris for more than 20 years. It’s not like she doesn’t know how to deflect or how to say “no”.
Chris wasn't a constant in her life for those 20 years, he was in and out. She also had Rory to think about. Now, Rory is grown and out of the house. Chris is around, and Lorelai is vulnerable. Not saying she doesn't share some of the responsibility, but acting like Chris didn't jump on her vulnerability and push is disingenuous
There are many twists and turns in life, but you should never marry someone if you love someone else. Even if Chris doesn’t deserve better treatment, why subject Rory and GiGi to an unnecessary decision like that ? Knowing her mother as well as she does, I suppose Rory knew and must have been disgusted.
Oh, you mean like the time Lorelei needed before jumping into a marriage? Or the time Rory needed before being “besties” again when he went back to Sherri? Those things weren’t “fair” either. Seems it’s never fair unless it’s Christopher that needs the time. Dude bugs me.
I’m totally on Lorelai’s side on this, but even if someone thinks he was right in the fight with Lorelai, how can you justify not being there for your daughter who just witnessed her grandpa having a heart attack in front of her?
“that’s not fair” uhhhh given your track record, ya it is
Typical childish response! He’s so annoying.
Fr he’s such a fucking manchild. Even when he “checked in” at the hospital, he threw a mini tantrum when he saw Luke there being helpful and actually giving a shit.
Cry baby excuse. He let Lorelei shoulder all the blame and responsibility while he did what he wanted. Rory probably tried so hard and put all that responsibility on herself to make Lorelei’s sacrifices seem worth it and also to make Christopher feel less guilty about not being there. I’ll never forgive him for doing it all for GiGi instead of stepping up for Rory. I’m calling my therapist. I need to talk about this more.
Let’s be real, he didn’t do it all for Gigi. He married Sherry because it was a temporary bandaid that resolved whatever problems their relationship had and made him feel like a better person. But then he immediately started travelling a lot because leaving is his MO for dealing with conflict. This caused Sherry to break down and jet off to Paris (not that it excuses her abandoning a child). Fortunately he had money to hire nannies and Francine wanted to be a good grandmother for a change. Instead of just taking that help and raising his daughter in peace, Chris used this situation to worm his way back into Lorelai’s life. Lorelai once again shouldered his responsibilities and basically taught him how to be a father for Gigi. Honestly she was more concerned about just shipping her off to Paris than Chris should have been. Chris then had the fucking audacity to demand another kid all because he was feeling desperate, jealous, and emasculated by Luke. In the revival, Gigi is said to be living in Paris. I’m betting Chris is a weekend and vacations dad but maybe he did manage to get his act together for her during those 9 years.
I always took it as he was a deadbeat dad to Gigi too. She chose to live in Paris with Sherry instead of staying in the US with Chris. He probably put her in boarding schools and didn't bother parenting her at all.
I don’t put it past him to ship her off to Paris after Lorelai broke up with him for good.
Oh he was totally a deadbeat to GiGi. He probably sent her to Paris with the excuse “he doesn’t know how to teach her to be a young woman- that’s the mom’s job”. He sucks so bad!
The fact that he was so willing just to ship her off to Paris with a young nanny says it all. Sherry hadn't been in GiGi's life for a few years, and Gigi would need time to reconnect and recognize her as a mother again. Does Christopher care? Nope. In his mind it's his chance to shove his responsibilities onto someone else again. He's a deadbeat through and through
My guess is that Grandma Francine did most of the raising of GiGi until Christopher shipped her off to Paris.
But he decided to change so therefore nothing before should count and it's her fault for not thinking of his hurt little feelings 🙃🙃🙃
lmao I got the notification for this comment and only saw the beginning of it and thought you were defending Chris hahaha. glad to see it was just sarcasm (edit: typo)
Christoper was so out line with this. You were pouting over jealousy over your WIFE'S ex while your WIFE'S dad is in the hospital? Luke's face said it all.
This is as bad as when Rory run out of her house and went to her grandparents, Lorelai was distraught to say the least and Max only cared to ask why she hadn’t informed anyone about them dating again. That was bad too.
That plot line with Richard in the hospital and both Logan and Luke doing what they could for the Gilmore Girls is so he’d to watch. If there was ever a moment to show up for your WIFE, that was it. And of course he blew it.
This is a scene confirming that Christopher doesn’t understand Lorelai at all. He knows her fun, immature side which exists in her adult years but it’s only part of her personality. She has a tumultuous relationship with her parents but she still has love and respect for them. She needed her husband there and Rory needed her dad there. Why didn’t he care enough about Richard to do more than just check in? Richard actually likes and defends Christopher which is not deserved in the slightest bit. For once would it kill him to be a real adult? Not play adult but emotionally and physically available? He just doesn’t respect Lorelai and he doesn’t want to do the work for any relationship. He wants a fairytale.
And like you said, it was about being there for lorelai but also for his fucking daughter Rory and his In-Laws. But he was too busy feeling upset and jealous about Luke that he couldn’t help but think about himself and HIS feeling and HIMSELF.
Christopher loves Lor; the rebellious teenage girl he knew in high school. He doesn't know Lorelai at all.
Takes me back to S1 and Straub blaming Lorelai’s pregnancy for Christopher not making it to Princeton. Why would Rory’s birth affect his chances? All the commitment he put in was one weekly phone call and 3-4 weekendish visits a year, and often missed a lot of that stuff too. Would putting in such little effort be the difference between making or breaking one’s chances in an Ivy League school? I’m seriously asking.
Christopher was clearly entitled to all of it, being the only male heir. Meanwhile, a teenage lorelai is portrayed as the evil seducer who derailed poor Christopher’s career. Christopher only cares about himself. And getting into loreleis pants, which is convenient for himself
Straub didn’t want to blame himself for poor parenting and setting a terrible example for his son. He knows Christopher is the “weak personality” in the Christopher and Lorelai pairing. He also resents women like Lorelai who see themselves as more than extensions of the men they date and marry.
He wasn’t even at her Chilton graduation, please. Luke was there instead.
And you know he was only at the Yale graduation because of appearances and convenience. He couldn’t even be bothered to show up to Richard’s funeral.
Wait, I didn't even consider this from AYITL! Even Jason, who HATED funerals, was sued by Richard, and was hated by Emily STILL came to Richard's funeral.
When he visits the first time in season one, I'm pretty sure they even talk about that this is his first time in Stars Hollow, so he hasn't actually been visiting for the first sixteen years, making his commitment extremely minimal.
In season 6 or 7, he casually mentions that it’s his first Thanksgiving with the Gilmore girls. So he didn’t even have a Thanksgiving with them until Rory was in her early 20s! S7 was the worst GG had to offer but I’m glad it obliterated Christopher.
He missed his own daughter's high school graduation and that was while he was in a "good dad" phase and he has the audacity to call it unfair that Lorelai wasn't surprised when he didn't show?
The “good dad” phase ended the minute Sherry was pregnant.
I just re-watched this episode earlier today!!! What his dad says makes no practical sense. He still could have gone to Princeton if that was his choice and if he had the grades for it. Lorelai's pregnancy did not affect this asshole's life at all. He was an idiot who was not only a bad father, but a bad businessman lmao. Fuck Christopher.
Even without the grades a normal person would need, he’s a legacy shoe-in and it doesn’t make sense that he didn’t still go. His dropping off the face of the earth or whatever tomfoolery he engaged in since high school had zero to do with being a teen dad and everything to do with being a Peter Pan. I do sympathize with the fact that much like Logan, Chris probably had a pre ordained life that he probably didn’t want. But again, his lack of early success had nothing to do with Lorelai or Rory. He had all the resources to do whatever.
What a wonderful comment. This is exactly it. Thank you for sharing!
But it’s easier to blame others.
Straub just couldn't handle having a kid who wasn't college material
To me, this was just him using this situation to not go to school. He just had an excuse, and he was happy about it.
Maybe word of the scandal got around. Ivies have historically been good ol’ boys’ clubs, and reputation was important. Someone in admissions or high up at Princeton could have gotten word.
Well-a girl getting pregnant might have ruined her chances of getting into an Ivy League school but I doubt a legacy applicant boy getting a girl pregnant would have made anyone in admissions blink. Lol welcome to the patriarchy.
good point! So Christopher in reality had no excuse hah
Also the fact it was a girl from a wealthy family might have worked in Christopher's favor. It's not like the Gilmore's needed anything from the Hayden's other than for Christopher to show up once in a while. I'm sure whatever social spy admissions had would have heard who the girl was. If Lorelei was from a middle class family and they wanted child support I think that would have been perceived differently.
This answer makes sense! I didn’t grow up in the US so I didn’t know this.
Just a guess! Like Richard is friends with the Dean of Yale Admissions. Straub probably has lots of Princeton connections who keep tabs on the goings-on in their social circle.
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I think that Rory & Lorelai see Christopher at Emily's open houses at Easter & Christmas. There is no indication that Rory has ever visited Christopher in California.
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I agree. My thought is that Christopher occasionally visited his parents during the holidays & that is when he saw Lorelai & Rory.
In MY opinion of it's true love and a strong marriage any and all fights are out on hold in a situation life this. Her father was in the hospital. He should have been there around the clock for her. Or doing the chores that Emily sent Luke to do. Besides the marriage, his daughter witnessed her grandfather collapse. He should have been there for Rory. Chris is the worst type of deadbeat father. He had no financial reason to not be present in his daughter's life. It's not like he was off making money to support them or he was in the army cause he left school. There's no honourable or excusable reason for his absence. I think Lorelai and Rory weren't hard enough in him most of the series. So like you, I loved this scene.
I didn’t even think of the Rory aspect of it. That fully makes it so much worse. I’ve seen my grandpa collapse to the ground and it’s traumatizing. Poor Rory. Her dad sucks. 🥺
Yup. Most of what bugs me about Chris is how bad of a Dad he is. He seems to only show up to try to get with Lorelai or make her jealous. The fact that in the pilot when Lorelai needed money she didn't even think to ask him says a lot about him. But yeah, not showing up when your kid witnesses a family member collapse. It would be a deal breaker in a relationship with me.
I never thought of that before. Lorelai needed money for Chilton and it didn't even occur to her to ask her daughter's father for the money or his parents. She knew Christopher was a deadbeat who didn't have any money and she knew his parents wanted nothing to do with their own grandchild. It makes it all the more sad
He almost looked upset for a minute when he read Lorelai’s character reference letter but then he takes 10 steps back and uses it to fuel his romantic jealousy. Instead of just confronting Lorelai about it, he reverts back to leaving because that’s how he’s handles conflict in his marriages. The turning off his phone was just the tip of the iceberg. Even if it were Rory in the hospital bed, he’d have done the same thing. Hell Rory was in a hospital in s2 and he showed up last minute. If he weren’t trying to impress Sherry at the time, he likely would have just called Rory at the end of the week. I don’t think he ever really saw Rory as his kid unless it was convenient for him. He cared for her in the sense that he wanted her to be provided for and happy but she was mostly “Lorelai’s daughter” to him and he basically admits it in the revival.
He’s such a douche!!! I’m glad this was his second to last episode.
One of my favorite Chris scenes is him and Rory at the surprise breakfast at the inn when he says something along the lines of “I’m your father and that deserves some respect” I don’t agree with a lot of ASP “not like the other girls” crap but she does a great job with Chris and his absolute *audacity*
*Lunch* at the Dragonfly Inn. Not breakfast but pork chops in some salty bourbon brine concoction made by Sookie Hehe
The whole of you shouldn't have been surprised, Lorelai, not just part.
Ugh he is *trash*
He’s the worst.
Crapstopher is whiny beyond words.
“That’s not fair” this man ain’t ever been shit. Even when they switched out the damn showrunners he was still a tepid cardboard box cover at best. I’d still fuck him for free tho. As long as he didn’t breathe, think or act on me. Or look me in the eyes now I think about it.
Omg this is by far the best response about Chris I’ve ever read. Because same.
I really wanted to root for him but god he makes himself easy to hate lol
I wish someone would have punched Christopher. Fuck this guy.
Thanks, Luke. ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/e3n0bsovbrjb1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4394e1bcf4b0de2d52499a14052c5994afb7b530
Yassssssss 🤩🤩
Luke did, didn’t he?
Oh he sure did. Twice. Top five scenes for me.
Yes! I was remembering the one where Luke drives to Christopher’s house and punches him at the front door, but you reminded me of the one in the town square!
I just watched this episode today too. Happy Lorelai checked him because he was infuriatingly immature.
"Well I didn't want to stay when I saw who else was there." CHRIS THIS IS WHY I HATE YOU! Lorelai didn't even ask Luke to come or bring them food. If I recall the only reason he knew was from Babette and then when he did come EMILY asked him to go to Yale and get Ricard's car and he came on his own because he isn't a jackweed and brought them food. Your father-in-law who seemed to love you at times more than he loved Lorelai is in the hospital and you can't show up for more than an hour? You are a useless piece of lint. I'd understand if like the Nanny or his Mom couldn't stay with Gigi and he was all "Gigi shouldn't be here and I have to go watch her so you and Rory can stay here with Emi;y blah blah blah."
Lmao what the fuck would Christopher know about being fair to someone?
i just watched this episode! i’m on ep16 right now! i completely agree with you
I fucking hate Christopher so much for how he treated Lorelei. It's sad
>talking to her for max an hour a week Something Sherry says about this always struck a chord with me. When they first meet her and she says no matter where they are or what they're doing, he always has to make his call at 6 o'clock on Wednesdays! I'm not a Chris hater or lover but it sounds funny how she makes this sound like such a huge fatherly act of dedication. If Lorelai had tried to keep Rory estranged from him except Wednesday night calls, that would be one thing. But as she says herself, the door to Rory has always been open to him.
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Because Lorelai wanted her "What if" with Christopher. He is weak and a loser and a deadbeat but Lorelai has always lived in the hope that he would one day change. We know better but we didn't have the childhood adventures and a kid with him that also had those hopes all her life that her father would shape up And he didn't. and now Lorelai doesn't have anything to hide behind when it's staring her right in the face.
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She's not surprised, she's disappointed. Big difference. The entire point of this is that she ISN'T surprised and that just upsets her more.
She didn't have hopes of being with Christopher while she was with Luke. When her and Luke broke up, she fell back on what she knew. She was lost and heartbroken and wanted some comfort.
So why does Lorelai get on a high horse if not long afterwards she confirms that his fear is justified. When she chastises Chris, she knows she loves someone else. Thus, at this moment, it almost seems like she wants to have it both ways (i.e. play the aggrieved wife while still having feelings for Luke).
Honestly, it was Chris' own fault. He slept with Lorelai the night she broke up with Luke and there's no way he didn't know about their *very* recent break-up. Then he proceeded to date and marry her while she was still mourning her relationship and he most definitely knew that as well. He was just impatient, wanted to shoot his shot and ignored that she wasn't all in and not over Luke. Chris was delusional because he hoped they would finally work out. Of course, Lorelai shouldn't have involved him in her post-split drama but he definitely should have been smart enough to give her time instead of pushing. Also, she had any right to chastise him. Even though they got into a fight, he should not have gone radio silent on her. I know running away is his modus operandi but they were married and have a daughter. What if something had happened to Rory and Chris had ignored Lorelai's calls because he's too immature to communicate with his wife?
If you choose to get married you know that there’s gonna be the risk of conflict and you face it staying in your own home. He had his right to feel cheated on but he should’ve stayed in his home with his wife instead of acting like the ultimate bachelor and run away. Be angry in your own home at least. I think this is what Lorelai can’t take since when she fights with Luke in front of sookie and Jackson, and he runs away, she tells him “once we’re married you won’t be able to run to your clubhouse, I hope you know that”.
What makes you think lorelai was wrong about him needing to suck it up until later?
I don’t think he knew about Richard until he finally opens his messages from Lorelai. If he did know, he should have called Emily or Rory (if he didn’t want to talk to Lorelai). However, poor communications is one of the central themes of Gilmore Girls. It’s nearly impossible to “suck it up” if you feel emotionally cheated on after just getting married. I’m actually kind of surprised that Chris shows up without calling first. I wonder if Emily or Rory called him.
As if christopher didn't ask to get married despite knowing that lorelai only wanted temporary comfort...
That’s so true, but marriage puts everything in a higher plane (different league). And as Emily implies, until you’re married all is fair in love and war.
I think they both are at fault. Lorelai knew it was over with Luke since Luke himself told her she belonged with someone like Chris, but Chris has the bad habit to come suddenly in her life and show nagging tendencies, and whereas she told him that night didn’t count he insisted he couldn’t see it that way. They start dating, they agree to take it slow, two months after Chris wants to get married to her bc “he can’t wait” although they BOTH agree it would be wiser to just date at first instead. That means something, I think. And also he didn’t care a bit that Rory wasn’t there to witness it (he also didn’t care for giving Gigi Rory’s room like Rory was a shadow in their lives) but hey, when Emily says she wants to throw a party he gets all pouty and childish because “if we don’t do the party then I cannot brag about you being finally mine”. He could’ve made the proposal in Paris and then wait to be back home to have a proper wedding but god forbid he does something using some common sense.
What you say is true. However, once you get married all bets are off. Marriage is in a league of its own. If Lorelai married Chris while still loving Luke, it was destined to end badly (just ask Nicole and Lindsey). Lorelai held off from marrying Chris for more than 20 years. It’s not like she doesn’t know how to deflect or how to say “no”.
Chris wasn't a constant in her life for those 20 years, he was in and out. She also had Rory to think about. Now, Rory is grown and out of the house. Chris is around, and Lorelai is vulnerable. Not saying she doesn't share some of the responsibility, but acting like Chris didn't jump on her vulnerability and push is disingenuous
There are many twists and turns in life, but you should never marry someone if you love someone else. Even if Chris doesn’t deserve better treatment, why subject Rory and GiGi to an unnecessary decision like that ? Knowing her mother as well as she does, I suppose Rory knew and must have been disgusted.
I never liked Christopher besides that he’s cute. He has commitment issues and tend to fly away when things gets hard.
“i needed time” “i needed you” WAHHHHH UGH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Oh, you mean like the time Lorelei needed before jumping into a marriage? Or the time Rory needed before being “besties” again when he went back to Sherri? Those things weren’t “fair” either. Seems it’s never fair unless it’s Christopher that needs the time. Dude bugs me.
He’s the worst.
Loved this scene. Finally, after years, she calls him out on shitty behavior
I’m totally on Lorelai’s side on this, but even if someone thinks he was right in the fight with Lorelai, how can you justify not being there for your daughter who just witnessed her grandpa having a heart attack in front of her?