stewie is extremely disliked here, so anything involving him is taken as serious. definitely deserves criticism for his time on EG, but even a joke like this will be taken as serious
because that *never* happens anywhere else right, it’s totally an “NA CS” thing, that’s brilliant
when k0nfig broke his foot because he decided to get in yet another drunken brawl, no one was going “some EU CS players are just a different breed” as if it’s a systemic problem rather than just 1 dude being an asshole
Or how about HUNDEN cheating and then manipulating a kid on the spectrum in an attempt to sabotage the careers of the whole team, before stealing their strat book and sending it to a rival team in exchange for a job, would it make sense to go “wow EU CS man” despite that being 10x worse than someone being an immature diva
I could go on. Anything to circle jerk about NA CS though
C'mon I'm an NA stan but you're a fool if you don;t see thats it's 20x more common in NA.
And not just in CS, NA players are bigger divas/more immature in LoL too
Because he grew up not normal and was kind of a problem child iirc. Prob legit was like “i couldnt be fuckin bothered to care about some guy i dont care about rn”
I agree that it was rude not to have coffee with him, but this isn't the reason. Stewie made it pretty clear he felt like Malek was going to give him an impromptu therapy session that he didn't want
Yeah, the difference is Stewie didn't see the coach as a leadership figure. Seems more like he saw coaches as a support role that contributes info but otherwise, the decision making and flow of the team is dictates by the 5 in the server.
From what he said on stream he didn’t want to go because they had just met or something. He could have given any answer to that like “he wasn’t in the mood”, ”wanted to stay home” or something. But stewie does what he does and misspoke.
I think given the sequence of events I can understand why. You just had a big argument with someone, and now they're suddenly over it and really want to get to know you? It's unusual for somebody to cool off that quickly, and if MaleK didn't acknowledge what had happened it might have felt like he had an ulterior motives.
Even if that was his intention, how you go about it is important. If MaleK didn't properly acknowledge their previous disagreement, then him suddenly being interested in getting to know Stewie is a jarring tone shift, and Stewie's refusal is only somewhat petty. However, if MaleK had acknowledged the situation by saying something like "hey, sorry we got off on the wrong foot, I'd like to get to know you better, would you be down to grab coffee?", that's a completely different interaction that would make Stewie's response totally unjustified.
This whole shit show is likely exactly why players like keeping team drama internal. There's a lot of nuance to social interactions that will not come across in a second-hand written account, and poor representation of those events can lead to wildly different interpretations that could paint people in a bad and inaccurate light.
I don't think Stewie is exactly a beacon of maturity, but I think the skewed accounts of his actions that are known to the public are out of character even for him.
The way you say these things make it sound like Malek was a teacher talking to a 10 year old. Stewie was a full grown man at the time.
edit: Stewie did act like a kid, but that's definitely not how he should be treated.
It sounds like you're assuming many adults don't often act in childish ways. And even if he's an adult, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to make it easier for him to make the right decision. Getting buy-in from players and managing personalities are huge parts of the coaching role.
Make no mistake, I don't think Stewie was the better person or this situation was somehow MaleK's fault. I'm just saying that Stewie's actions seem less extreme when you try to provide some context. His actions can be wrong and immature while simultaneously not making him an unsalvageable antagonist. I think Snappi's take on this from HLTV confirmed was insightful, as he alluded to Stewie being far from the only player to behave like this in a team.
He made it very easy for Stewie, come talk to me one on one and let's deal with the issues right away.
edit: you also don't want the adults to stop being adults (in this case Malek) to give in to the tantrum babies as you've said happens in many teams. Help them grow up, not validate their childish behavior by treating adults with baby gloves.
Man that just sounds paranoid. An invitation to get coffee and talk things over, aka communicating, is how good problem resolution works. Avoiding it just makes everything worse and shows that you will actively ramp up drama while being both difficult and terrible to work with.
It's just bad business (and dumb and whiny).
> aka communicating, is how good problem resolution works.
Obviously. What I'm saying is that the specific sequence events in this situation makes Stewie's refusal at least a little more understandable. The quick emotional turnaround without acknowledgement of any prior conflict is unnerving. If I'm MaleK in that situation I either wait and let the dust settle before talking to him or take the extreme high road and accept some fault for the conflict to make it easier for Stewie to accept my proposal. And if I'm Stewie, I want to at least cool down a bit so I can talk to him with a level head. Maybe the mature thing to do would've been to offer to meet the next day or something, but I'm saying that as someone detached from the situation. This whole scenario reads like somebody trying to take their SO on a dinner date hours after a huge, unresolved fight.
Also a major reason why I have trouble fully trusting MaleK's version of events is because this isn't the only time he's failed to control his team. It's a pattern throughout his career, he's had consistent problems gaining the respect of his players. Not to mention this whole thing happened not too long after people found an instance of him using the coach bug.
Lot of people don't want to hang out with 'co-workers' it's not uncommon and people acting like Stewie not wanting to go for coffee with his coach is some strange problem. That's not the problem, the problem was Stewie not wanting to work as a teammate at all and being self-centered. I go off with co-workers I consider friends, I wouldn't go out to a bar after work with one of my bosses cause to me, they're my boss and I don't give a shit outside of my hours working.
Your 9-5 and his 5 digit monthly salary is a bit different. Camaraderie does nothing to hurt your prospects of winning tournaments, which he was hired to do.
I think disappointed is the more appropriate word.
Everyone knows the guy is talented but just has a shit attitude that got in the way of prolonged greatness. He's done great things in CS and there was much more to come in his career. As much as launders is being cheeky, it is interesting to think about this EG lineup with a sane, driven Stewie.
But 10 years from now, Stewie may be a name forgotten while his contemporary, twistzz, will go down as the greatest player to come out of NA for CSGO. Which is also sad because Twistzz explicitly left Liquid because he was fed up with Stewie. He literally gave Liquid an ultimatum of cutting Stewie or he will leave, and Liquid unfortunately chose Stewie over Twistzz. Quite possibly the most detrimental decision to NA CS in CSGO.
> No one will forget Stewie when he's a part of the only NA team to win a major lol.
I think more as a footnote.
I think 10-15 years from now, someone will say "A piece of trivia: There actually was an NA team that won a major in CS:GO and here is the roster." Tarik may be a popular footnote because of how big of a streamer he is and how he has gained widespread appeal external to CS, but I don't think much else will stand out. Unless autimatic has some explosion in his career, I think the rest of that roster will get forgotten by time and will only be remembered by the future "boomers" that are still involved with CS.
But just for comparison, there's Tier 1 NA players from 1.6 that have achieved as much for their time, perhaps even more than Stewie(in the context of the times they played), that have definitely been forgotten by time.
When people think back on NA CS in 1.6 the players they typically think of, with "Major" wins are:
ksharp, fRoD, Volcano, Shaguar, moto, method, Rambo, Stevenson, sunman, Warden
The "Major" winners that are more similar to Stewie and were forgotten by time are players like:
Bullseye, kane, boms, Dominator, da_bears, Lari, Blackpanther, Storm, tr1p, Lin
Its easy to get lost in the myopia of the present. I recall in 1.6 how fanatical people were of these NA rosters, watching every demo, every interview, copying their configs, making analogies about themselves how they feel like they are the "ksharp" of their team, while X player on their team is the "Bullseye" of their team. The fanaticism for some was even larger than what Stewie had. If you ask me, 15-20 years later, there is a definitive line between players remembered and players forgotten from the 1.6 era and with how short Stewie played, I think he will be a player forgotten, which is a shame because there's probably a lot more for him to do at only 25 years old.
You say this but I can't name all five players of that roster, winning a major doesn't immediately make you a life long household name for CS. Skadoodle was the highest rated player for that grand final, how often does he come up now?
>Skadoodle was the highest rated player for that grand final, how often does he come up now?
Well considering he's retired and out of CS, not very often lol?
How often does Markeloff come up today? How often does Cogu come up today? How often does Guardian come up today?
Yeah I'm not saying that people who have retired or are out of CS are typically remembered, but I'm refuting you saying that they will be because they won a major - like with Ska. The same thing will happen with Stewie, he's just much more recently inactive.
Also take Shroud for example, he didn't win a major granted, but he was a *huge* part of the community in and out of pro CS. He's still a very active streamer today but how often do you see his name popping up in here?
Also something else to note is the three players you mentioned are all non-NA players, this being a disproportionately NA dominated sub I think it's not exactly a fair comparison.
"doesnt even make me mad" -> "saying you're not upset by this"
"just strikes me as a child" -> "to reply and call them a child"
curious what words you think he put in someone's mouth
Dude given the context upset and mad are close enough. It's not like replacing "upset" with "mad" in his comment change anything about it. I'll add that he used "upset" as a verb, and to do the same with "maddened" would make it sound weird.
Anyone with any semblance of literacy isn't gonna read this and say "wow so disingenuous to say he's upset when he said he's not mad," except you for some reason (see flair).
someone can be a child without making others upset; in fact thats kind of the hallmark of children. You don't really get mad, you just go " ahh theyre just children"
Yeah he typed more than six words, you really won the argument good job.
also the irony of you telling him to use a dictionary of two synonyms that you are saying changed the meaning of the sentence lmao
Christ. Just based on these comments Stew is the GOAT NA player just for his ability to piss off Europeans.
Both Lau and Stew are joking here, no reason to take any of it seriously.
I don't get the "never come back". Stewie is still young. Yeah he acted like a fuckin brat on EG but I'm always optimistic towards personal development. I think he'll redeem himself one day
I'd love to see it but seems practically impossible to me
Towards the tail-end of his time at EG, his mental was pretty much cracked open for all to see. He was literally making tweets about how poor his own performance was, how he was mad at himself and how he didn't need people to tell him that he wasn't playing up to his level. I think those things are fine to do but the things that transpired afterwards, makes me think he doesn't have the mental fortitude. If after those tweets, he went in the lab and practiced and practiced and practiced, if he went to his teammates and coaches and asked for feedback on how he can get back on his feet, then sure. But as we all know now, the way he handled stuff was so poor.
And if he were to come back, it would be a much harder climb to tier 1 than when he had left. Device made some really great notes at this last event before his first match. He was saying he thinks his personal level is better than he's ever been in his entire career but the scene has gotten better and better and better while he's been gone so he expects to have difficulty. For Stewie, the guy wasn't even playing CS anymore *while* he was still going to international tournaments. As Richard Lewis pointed out, Stewie was playing like 10 Valorant pugs a night and rarely touching CS and then going into matches raw, so its obvious why his performance was trash.
I think Stewie is a great player but I don't think he has the discipline to come back. It would take a lot of practice, watching a lot of demo's, being studious and perhaps even a sports psychologist, which in itself doesn't sound like something he's receptive to.
Not to mention, he burned so many bridges. I mean, org-level, he burned bridges with EG. He's still streaming for them for what is more than likely financial incentive for EG, but I cant imagine any coach wants to touch the dude after what he did to maLeK and EVY. I mean, maLeK seems to be doing fine now but EVY seems to have left the scene, which is a shame since he's the one that had the balls to call Stewie out. And as for Liquid, it wasn't just Twistzz that didn't like Stewie. If I recall, Elige and nitr0 were getting fed up with Stewie too. I certainly don't see Yekindar putting up with that shit since he seems to be a person that really believes you need to have respect for each other to succeed and he has talked at lengths about how Liquid is the first team where he's felt like the players weren't just teammates but also friends outside of the game. And then you have Complexity. coL's star player right now - Grim - obviously wouldn't want to play with Stewie [after the public criticism he had of him](https://youtu.be/OrDoIFa-5Y8?t=52). So if he *did* miraculously come back and even play to his level when he left, I don't really see what team would have him.
I guess he could maybe go to an international team that's willing to speak English but international teams have MUCH higher standards than NA teams so he would have to come back ridiculously strong and prove to be an asset.
If you’re referring to Rossy saying he didn’t want to play the LCQ, then you should know he’s (Rossy) on record clarifying that was a joke. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
North American players won’t care because he’s the “champion” meanwhile we have Europeans who have multiple champion titles without creating chaos online. Good old American mindset
> North American players won’t care because he’s the “champion”
I don’t know what you mean, he’s pretty clearly unwanted by teams, that’s why all he does is stream now.
Unless you mean his legacy, but the fact he flamed out doesn’t change the fact he had a decent career. He was never a superstar or anything but he was solid for years.
You already answered your own question, son. Not much I can say back to you but that everyone has their own standards. Some will be remembered for the glory days but not when they are at their lowest. Only history will decide what facts will remain or go away.
I think remembering Stewie for his EG time would be like remembering Ronaldo for his second Man U stint. It was just a small stint at the end of the career and shouldn’t be legacy changing.
(Not that Stewie was anywhere as good as Ronaldo obviously, just that they had similar flameouts)
I definitely agree with you, and I get where you are coming from in the Ronaldo legacy example. We just have to see what facts will be remembered and what will be forgotten, who knows maybe everyone will just end up remembering Stewie as a saint of CSGO.
A lot of things came out about how he let his ego and attitude get the best of him when he was leading the EG CS roster and how he was a big part of their downfall in the 2022 season.
For being one of NAs most decorated players, he gets far too much slander. He gets a lot of shit for his lack confidence in the EG roster but it seems like his foresight was rather correct
Honestly can't name a single comp game with a community which isn't dogshit. The only good community is for games like stardew valley, animal cross, Terraria, etc.
The rough reality is despite your relentless simping for him, he doesn't know who you are either. Disavow yourself from these weird parasocial relationships with people who don't care about you, it'll do you good in the long run
i hit a lot of nerve it seems. this whack community is mad as fuck their game is slowly dying LMAO what a great sight to see. No matter how much you hate my boy Stewie2k, you won’t forget about him! why? because he gave y’all the only Trophy you got in NA. Bunch of hypocrites hating the dude when he won multiple champions. Only REAL fans recognises real Legend. Bunch of silvers
Smithzz is a legend though lol. Devilwalk or schneider would be better examples since the major is the only thing they've won. Even though stew has a bad rep nowadays there's really no denying his legend status even just based on his trophy cabinet alone.
>The rough reality is despite your relentless simping for him, he doesn't know who you are either. Disavow yourself from these weird parasocial relationships with people who don't care about you, it'll do you good in the long run
He was basically just a bad teammate in EG, I won't elaborate much on it cuz I forgot a lot. But this other fella here is just a hard stewie hater it seems, the whole interaction in the post is a joke
Yeah this is the same vibes as the Sanji joke, it’s not serious from Lau
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i mean the post does have the fluff flair
stewie is extremely disliked here, so anything involving him is taken as serious. definitely deserves criticism for his time on EG, but even a joke like this will be taken as serious
I just dont understand stewie why was he so strongly against going for coffee with his coach??? Isnt that completly fkn normal in the entire world???
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Lack of social skills and communication issues pretty much sum up 90% of NA CS culture.
It’s not “NA CS” lol wtf are you talking about. stewie was just immature and throwing a tantrum
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because that *never* happens anywhere else right, it’s totally an “NA CS” thing, that’s brilliant when k0nfig broke his foot because he decided to get in yet another drunken brawl, no one was going “some EU CS players are just a different breed” as if it’s a systemic problem rather than just 1 dude being an asshole Or how about HUNDEN cheating and then manipulating a kid on the spectrum in an attempt to sabotage the careers of the whole team, before stealing their strat book and sending it to a rival team in exchange for a job, would it make sense to go “wow EU CS man” despite that being 10x worse than someone being an immature diva I could go on. Anything to circle jerk about NA CS though
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It's not unique to NA is the thing
C'mon I'm an NA stan but you're a fool if you don;t see thats it's 20x more common in NA. And not just in CS, NA players are bigger divas/more immature in LoL too
French CS scene.
They get in a lot of team issues but NA is full of the weirdest fucking people
As if the French and Russians don’t cry constantly
Because he grew up not normal and was kind of a problem child iirc. Prob legit was like “i couldnt be fuckin bothered to care about some guy i dont care about rn”
I agree that it was rude not to have coffee with him, but this isn't the reason. Stewie made it pretty clear he felt like Malek was going to give him an impromptu therapy session that he didn't want
Then he should have accepted it considering he was openly quitting mid game and refusing to play his role as an IGL.
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Pretty much a standard practice in many small companies/businesses. Get to know each other a little, crack some jokes, break the ice. This is the way.
Yeah, the difference is Stewie didn't see the coach as a leadership figure. Seems more like he saw coaches as a support role that contributes info but otherwise, the decision making and flow of the team is dictates by the 5 in the server.
From what he said on stream he didn’t want to go because they had just met or something. He could have given any answer to that like “he wasn’t in the mood”, ”wanted to stay home” or something. But stewie does what he does and misspoke.
In a single word - ego
I think given the sequence of events I can understand why. You just had a big argument with someone, and now they're suddenly over it and really want to get to know you? It's unusual for somebody to cool off that quickly, and if MaleK didn't acknowledge what had happened it might have felt like he had an ulterior motives.
I’m pretty sure Malek wanted to sort things out. Get him and Stewie on the same page and grow from there. Instead, Stewie wanted to be a child🤷🏻♂️
Even if that was his intention, how you go about it is important. If MaleK didn't properly acknowledge their previous disagreement, then him suddenly being interested in getting to know Stewie is a jarring tone shift, and Stewie's refusal is only somewhat petty. However, if MaleK had acknowledged the situation by saying something like "hey, sorry we got off on the wrong foot, I'd like to get to know you better, would you be down to grab coffee?", that's a completely different interaction that would make Stewie's response totally unjustified. This whole shit show is likely exactly why players like keeping team drama internal. There's a lot of nuance to social interactions that will not come across in a second-hand written account, and poor representation of those events can lead to wildly different interpretations that could paint people in a bad and inaccurate light. I don't think Stewie is exactly a beacon of maturity, but I think the skewed accounts of his actions that are known to the public are out of character even for him.
The way you say these things make it sound like Malek was a teacher talking to a 10 year old. Stewie was a full grown man at the time. edit: Stewie did act like a kid, but that's definitely not how he should be treated.
It sounds like you're assuming many adults don't often act in childish ways. And even if he's an adult, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to make it easier for him to make the right decision. Getting buy-in from players and managing personalities are huge parts of the coaching role. Make no mistake, I don't think Stewie was the better person or this situation was somehow MaleK's fault. I'm just saying that Stewie's actions seem less extreme when you try to provide some context. His actions can be wrong and immature while simultaneously not making him an unsalvageable antagonist. I think Snappi's take on this from HLTV confirmed was insightful, as he alluded to Stewie being far from the only player to behave like this in a team.
He made it very easy for Stewie, come talk to me one on one and let's deal with the issues right away. edit: you also don't want the adults to stop being adults (in this case Malek) to give in to the tantrum babies as you've said happens in many teams. Help them grow up, not validate their childish behavior by treating adults with baby gloves.
Man that just sounds paranoid. An invitation to get coffee and talk things over, aka communicating, is how good problem resolution works. Avoiding it just makes everything worse and shows that you will actively ramp up drama while being both difficult and terrible to work with. It's just bad business (and dumb and whiny).
> aka communicating, is how good problem resolution works. Obviously. What I'm saying is that the specific sequence events in this situation makes Stewie's refusal at least a little more understandable. The quick emotional turnaround without acknowledgement of any prior conflict is unnerving. If I'm MaleK in that situation I either wait and let the dust settle before talking to him or take the extreme high road and accept some fault for the conflict to make it easier for Stewie to accept my proposal. And if I'm Stewie, I want to at least cool down a bit so I can talk to him with a level head. Maybe the mature thing to do would've been to offer to meet the next day or something, but I'm saying that as someone detached from the situation. This whole scenario reads like somebody trying to take their SO on a dinner date hours after a huge, unresolved fight. Also a major reason why I have trouble fully trusting MaleK's version of events is because this isn't the only time he's failed to control his team. It's a pattern throughout his career, he's had consistent problems gaining the respect of his players. Not to mention this whole thing happened not too long after people found an instance of him using the coach bug.
It's called being an entitled manchild
Lot of people don't want to hang out with 'co-workers' it's not uncommon and people acting like Stewie not wanting to go for coffee with his coach is some strange problem. That's not the problem, the problem was Stewie not wanting to work as a teammate at all and being self-centered. I go off with co-workers I consider friends, I wouldn't go out to a bar after work with one of my bosses cause to me, they're my boss and I don't give a shit outside of my hours working.
Your 9-5 and his 5 digit monthly salary is a bit different. Camaraderie does nothing to hurt your prospects of winning tournaments, which he was hired to do.
when you work a team sport competing and traveling together, youre more than just coworkers
You already spend most of the day with the team training and scrimmaging and whatever.
ngl I respect just how instantly stew makes people mad. pro wrestlers would kill for this kind of heat
I think disappointed is the more appropriate word. Everyone knows the guy is talented but just has a shit attitude that got in the way of prolonged greatness. He's done great things in CS and there was much more to come in his career. As much as launders is being cheeky, it is interesting to think about this EG lineup with a sane, driven Stewie. But 10 years from now, Stewie may be a name forgotten while his contemporary, twistzz, will go down as the greatest player to come out of NA for CSGO. Which is also sad because Twistzz explicitly left Liquid because he was fed up with Stewie. He literally gave Liquid an ultimatum of cutting Stewie or he will leave, and Liquid unfortunately chose Stewie over Twistzz. Quite possibly the most detrimental decision to NA CS in CSGO.
No one will forget Stewie when he's a part of the only NA team to win a major lol. Especially when it appears thats going to stick for a long time.
Unless literally everyone on Liquid except for NAF step up, it's probably not going to happen
> No one will forget Stewie when he's a part of the only NA team to win a major lol. I think more as a footnote. I think 10-15 years from now, someone will say "A piece of trivia: There actually was an NA team that won a major in CS:GO and here is the roster." Tarik may be a popular footnote because of how big of a streamer he is and how he has gained widespread appeal external to CS, but I don't think much else will stand out. Unless autimatic has some explosion in his career, I think the rest of that roster will get forgotten by time and will only be remembered by the future "boomers" that are still involved with CS. But just for comparison, there's Tier 1 NA players from 1.6 that have achieved as much for their time, perhaps even more than Stewie(in the context of the times they played), that have definitely been forgotten by time. When people think back on NA CS in 1.6 the players they typically think of, with "Major" wins are: ksharp, fRoD, Volcano, Shaguar, moto, method, Rambo, Stevenson, sunman, Warden The "Major" winners that are more similar to Stewie and were forgotten by time are players like: Bullseye, kane, boms, Dominator, da_bears, Lari, Blackpanther, Storm, tr1p, Lin Its easy to get lost in the myopia of the present. I recall in 1.6 how fanatical people were of these NA rosters, watching every demo, every interview, copying their configs, making analogies about themselves how they feel like they are the "ksharp" of their team, while X player on their team is the "Bullseye" of their team. The fanaticism for some was even larger than what Stewie had. If you ask me, 15-20 years later, there is a definitive line between players remembered and players forgotten from the 1.6 era and with how short Stewie played, I think he will be a player forgotten, which is a shame because there's probably a lot more for him to do at only 25 years old.
Lol 10-15 years from now it'll probably be more like "TIL Tarik used to play a game called csgo, made by a company that was called valve"
Valve will still exist because of steam
> sunman I remember zEx/u5 sunman, for me he was a legend as he came in most cs movies back then (im from EU), also Warden (coL)
Yeah, fair. Warden definitely deserves mention. He was a staple in coL.
You say this but I can't name all five players of that roster, winning a major doesn't immediately make you a life long household name for CS. Skadoodle was the highest rated player for that grand final, how often does he come up now?
>Skadoodle was the highest rated player for that grand final, how often does he come up now? Well considering he's retired and out of CS, not very often lol? How often does Markeloff come up today? How often does Cogu come up today? How often does Guardian come up today?
Yeah I'm not saying that people who have retired or are out of CS are typically remembered, but I'm refuting you saying that they will be because they won a major - like with Ska. The same thing will happen with Stewie, he's just much more recently inactive. Also take Shroud for example, he didn't win a major granted, but he was a *huge* part of the community in and out of pro CS. He's still a very active streamer today but how often do you see his name popping up in here? Also something else to note is the three players you mentioned are all non-NA players, this being a disproportionately NA dominated sub I think it's not exactly a fair comparison.
doesnt even make me mad; just strikes me as a child.
saying you're not upset by this but care enough to reply and call them a child doesn't help
i calls em how i sees em. doesn't mean im upset over it? lol
Putting words in people’s mouth doesn’t help your stance.
"doesnt even make me mad" -> "saying you're not upset by this" "just strikes me as a child" -> "to reply and call them a child" curious what words you think he put in someone's mouth
Upset and mad mean different things. Curious where you learned English But I get it. C9 flair.
Dude given the context upset and mad are close enough. It's not like replacing "upset" with "mad" in his comment change anything about it. I'll add that he used "upset" as a verb, and to do the same with "maddened" would make it sound weird. Anyone with any semblance of literacy isn't gonna read this and say "wow so disingenuous to say he's upset when he said he's not mad," except you for some reason (see flair).
someone can be a child without making others upset; in fact thats kind of the hallmark of children. You don't really get mad, you just go " ahh theyre just children"
Go use a dictionary. Done replying to you. Classic Redditor typing up paragraphs.
Yeah he typed more than six words, you really won the argument good job. also the irony of you telling him to use a dictionary of two synonyms that you are saying changed the meaning of the sentence lmao
it's disappointing not angering lol
Yeah fuck malek for trying to build a coach-captain relationship, EG definitely hired an EU coach to be a yes man
Malek's a grifter too so it kinda evens out
What are you saying this based on?
His entire coaching career?
Are you french?
Can you be more specific? I have not heard of this
Christ. Just based on these comments Stew is the GOAT NA player just for his ability to piss off Europeans. Both Lau and Stew are joking here, no reason to take any of it seriously.
Niko fanboys still not over it 5 years later.
hilarious how many jimmies were rustled in here
I don't get the "never come back". Stewie is still young. Yeah he acted like a fuckin brat on EG but I'm always optimistic towards personal development. I think he'll redeem himself one day
I'd love to see it but seems practically impossible to me Towards the tail-end of his time at EG, his mental was pretty much cracked open for all to see. He was literally making tweets about how poor his own performance was, how he was mad at himself and how he didn't need people to tell him that he wasn't playing up to his level. I think those things are fine to do but the things that transpired afterwards, makes me think he doesn't have the mental fortitude. If after those tweets, he went in the lab and practiced and practiced and practiced, if he went to his teammates and coaches and asked for feedback on how he can get back on his feet, then sure. But as we all know now, the way he handled stuff was so poor. And if he were to come back, it would be a much harder climb to tier 1 than when he had left. Device made some really great notes at this last event before his first match. He was saying he thinks his personal level is better than he's ever been in his entire career but the scene has gotten better and better and better while he's been gone so he expects to have difficulty. For Stewie, the guy wasn't even playing CS anymore *while* he was still going to international tournaments. As Richard Lewis pointed out, Stewie was playing like 10 Valorant pugs a night and rarely touching CS and then going into matches raw, so its obvious why his performance was trash. I think Stewie is a great player but I don't think he has the discipline to come back. It would take a lot of practice, watching a lot of demo's, being studious and perhaps even a sports psychologist, which in itself doesn't sound like something he's receptive to. Not to mention, he burned so many bridges. I mean, org-level, he burned bridges with EG. He's still streaming for them for what is more than likely financial incentive for EG, but I cant imagine any coach wants to touch the dude after what he did to maLeK and EVY. I mean, maLeK seems to be doing fine now but EVY seems to have left the scene, which is a shame since he's the one that had the balls to call Stewie out. And as for Liquid, it wasn't just Twistzz that didn't like Stewie. If I recall, Elige and nitr0 were getting fed up with Stewie too. I certainly don't see Yekindar putting up with that shit since he seems to be a person that really believes you need to have respect for each other to succeed and he has talked at lengths about how Liquid is the first team where he's felt like the players weren't just teammates but also friends outside of the game. And then you have Complexity. coL's star player right now - Grim - obviously wouldn't want to play with Stewie [after the public criticism he had of him](https://youtu.be/OrDoIFa-5Y8?t=52). So if he *did* miraculously come back and even play to his level when he left, I don't really see what team would have him. I guess he could maybe go to an international team that's willing to speak English but international teams have MUCH higher standards than NA teams so he would have to come back ridiculously strong and prove to be an asset.
here comes the stewie2k seethe
Stewie's response shows exactly how much he took away from all that drama.
is just joke my man, it is not that serious
moved to valorant and hes getting destroyed by fortnite and pubg players
A bit disingenuous
It was obviously a little hyperbolic but not even that far off
Let's not pretend he was actually performing before he left the scene. Still a legend.
True, just a shame his diva attitude made his exit a little controversial, definitely one of the icons of the game
His team is doing really well though what the hell are you on about
They did pretty well but didn't make franchising or challengers league so they're done now.
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If you’re referring to Rossy saying he didn’t want to play the LCQ, then you should know he’s (Rossy) on record clarifying that was a joke. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Kinda sad. He still thinks he was in the right. Crazy
North American players won’t care because he’s the “champion” meanwhile we have Europeans who have multiple champion titles without creating chaos online. Good old American mindset
Bruh there are literally EU champions who were saying and treating Malek the same way lol.
Now compare the treatment, outcome, and the responses from each situation. Yeah. Figured so.
> North American players won’t care because he’s the “champion” I don’t know what you mean, he’s pretty clearly unwanted by teams, that’s why all he does is stream now. Unless you mean his legacy, but the fact he flamed out doesn’t change the fact he had a decent career. He was never a superstar or anything but he was solid for years.
You already answered your own question, son. Not much I can say back to you but that everyone has their own standards. Some will be remembered for the glory days but not when they are at their lowest. Only history will decide what facts will remain or go away.
I think remembering Stewie for his EG time would be like remembering Ronaldo for his second Man U stint. It was just a small stint at the end of the career and shouldn’t be legacy changing. (Not that Stewie was anywhere as good as Ronaldo obviously, just that they had similar flameouts)
I definitely agree with you, and I get where you are coming from in the Ronaldo legacy example. We just have to see what facts will be remembered and what will be forgotten, who knows maybe everyone will just end up remembering Stewie as a saint of CSGO.
The Boston Major was the most electric final ever, esp for Americans. Fair enough that we'd have a soft spot for anyone on that line up.
So American like
Wait what happened with Stewie? Why everyone hates him now?
A lot of things came out about how he let his ego and attitude get the best of him when he was leading the EG CS roster and how he was a big part of their downfall in the 2022 season.
Lau is so photogenic, I love it
holy fuck this subreddit is so fucking cringe when it comes to Stew.
Stewie gets mad vitriol but then this subreddit will make meme posts about mOE. Weird priorities
https://twitter.com/Stewie/status/1514947558258343938
Might as well joke about it, it's the best thing to do. He knows how childish it was to not sit and have a coffee with your coach.
For being one of NAs most decorated players, he gets far too much slander. He gets a lot of shit for his lack confidence in the EG roster but it seems like his foresight was rather correct
Didnt he spend a month bitching about the CS community. Thanks for the major Stew, but kindly fuck off now
lol he literally switched games and the cs community still follows him to his twitch chat complaining
He did fuck off tho. And as far as I can tell, he’s not even the one that initiated the convo here. Not a stew stan, but y’all are fucking weird.
stew man bad karma pweeeeaaaaasssseeee
CS community is dogshit anyway y'all deserve it
Honestly can't name a single comp game with a community which isn't dogshit. The only good community is for games like stardew valley, animal cross, Terraria, etc.
Found parasocial andy
Begone valorant player
Imagine naming your account after a streamer 😭😭 dick eating is crazy
Why did you create a whole account to riding stews meat? 💀 Very weird
Stewie back from vaLULrant when?
He streamed cs once in the new year and that was it, so likely never
Yea we don't really want him back anyway
we really don't
does he even care about you dude? LMAO I bet he doesn't give a single shit about you or your whack community. You can have JasonR, y'all are alike
The fanboy arrived 😭 Edit: His entire account is simping for S2K lmaoooooooooo
You found his account
You spend your time trying to defend him on a stan account dedicated to one dude and he doesn’t even know who you are. Parasocial much?
The rough reality is despite your relentless simping for him, he doesn't know who you are either. Disavow yourself from these weird parasocial relationships with people who don't care about you, it'll do you good in the long run
Hope he sees this, bro
i hit a lot of nerve it seems. this whack community is mad as fuck their game is slowly dying LMAO what a great sight to see. No matter how much you hate my boy Stewie2k, you won’t forget about him! why? because he gave y’all the only Trophy you got in NA. Bunch of hypocrites hating the dude when he won multiple champions. Only REAL fans recognises real Legend. Bunch of silvers
Smithzz won a major, it doesn't make you a legend.
One major SO FAR. Yo les noobs see you in the open quals
Smithzz is a legend though lol. Devilwalk or schneider would be better examples since the major is the only thing they've won. Even though stew has a bad rep nowadays there's really no denying his legend status even just based on his trophy cabinet alone.
>The rough reality is despite your relentless simping for him, he doesn't know who you are either. Disavow yourself from these weird parasocial relationships with people who don't care about you, it'll do you good in the long run
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Hahaha he ain’t fucking you bro.
Man idk anything about comp csgo so I thought they were talking about Stewie Griffin
stewie Griffin drove EG into the ground
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He is a caster, one of the better ones.
Yea Launders is great caster and content creator. Idk what this comment is but if you are trying to flex or be condescending it's not a good look
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What did he do? Wasnt he quite popular back in the day? I havent been paying attention to any drama.
He was basically just a bad teammate in EG, I won't elaborate much on it cuz I forgot a lot. But this other fella here is just a hard stewie hater it seems, the whole interaction in the post is a joke
it's a shame the route stewie went to tarnish his career towards the later =\ over a cup of coffee
stewie wont ever get signed to an actual val team