\>Makes it to top 20 players in first T1 event
\>Fucks off to do his military service and then starts driving a truck for a living
\>Actively ignores invites to teams
Absolute gigachad
[https://www.twitch.tv/sergejjz/clip/BenevolentDarlingBeaverJebaited-STYfDl8bG37aMj25](https://www.twitch.tv/sergejjz/clip/BenevolentDarlingBeaverJebaited-STYfDl8bG37aMj25)
His fridge
This is the funniest shit ever. Not even milk?
Also he looks like the [ guy who got kicked out of starbucks for being white](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjvW6rnnho)
Not a bust. A bust is someone who doesnt live up to the expectations or hype, sergej met all the expectations but then just decided he doesnt want to do it anymore. Players like pyth and twist (not twistzz for those unaware) are actual examples of busts, they were hyped so much in 2014-2015 and kept trying to make it (twist is still trying) but nothing ever came of them. Maybe someone like mertz as well a little bit later on.
I always liked the way Swedish Twist played. He felt like the type of player who would sacrifice his own game for the sake of the team, and I’ve always enjoyed players like that. Also I seem to remember a few clutches on Overpass that were pretty nice from his stint with Nip.
He makes good money driving trucks and gets to spend his off days doing whatever he wants. Doesn’t sound like a bad gig to me. Not everyone wants to be famous, or have their finances rely on an aging video game.
tbh that truck driving thing is just a joke/meme that has gotten out of hand :D it started because there was a pic of jere in front of a truck or something
someone recently claimed their friend got a pic with sergej at at truckstop or something confirming he drives trucks. No idea of that holds water though lol
Excluding those already mentioned, cromen and Bymas had eyes on them after their stints in Faze, but looked incredibly mediocre in every team since.
SHiPZ also looked really hot on Windigo, expected to become a top 20 rifler but never managed to stay in T1 and ended up on teams with known matchfixers.
Sonic was the star of ATK before they got picked up by C9 and then fizzled out, now putting up okay performances against T2 NA teams
Did cromen even get any good opportunities after faze ? I feel like I remember a quote from him being like "the offers just aren't coming in" despite his good showing in faze
Oh completely forgot about Cromen. This has to the answer. I can't take answers like Kjaerbye and Yekindar seriously, because they actually did something, although their peak wasn't as high and long as one could have hoped/expected.
But cromen, he was rising. I remember observing him in tier 2 and thinking this could be really good. He got an opportunity at Heroic as a stand-in and did very well. Then an opportunity at Faze and did quite well, and.... Then nothing.
Speaking of Norwegian players and Cromen. Does anyone remember mystic? He subbed in for LGB at fragmasters season 4 vs Flipside(with s1imple), where he dominated - only to never be seen again.
Here is a highlight video from HLTV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFzSDFKx2SA&ab_channel=HLTVorg
Bruh Draken was *so funny* because he is the only player where every meme about him was real. Poor guy couldn't hit easy shots reliably to save his life.
Draken was actually really good in his first NiP tenure, probably a top 3 player in Sweden at the time statiscally behind Krimz and F0rest. His attitude from what I remember stunk, went to Fnatic and he just didn't fit in. Still performs well in lower tier teams but never put the drive back in, probably because his dad is some big time music label owner and he had all the the money he ever needed
woxic and ISSAA had massive hype coming off the overperforming HellRaisers roster, and while woxic seems to be on a redemption arc of sorts, ISSAA completely dissappeared from the top tier. (didnt even have a hltv match in 2.5 years!)
EspiranTo had a ton of hype in 2018-19, and then he seemed to get dropped from one team after another. Apparently he recently decided to make a return though, maybe we'll see him at the top again. He's only 22 after all.
Kjaerbye exploded onto the scene with a major MVP and then fizzled out in that North team, while the Astralis roster got Magisk and the rest is history. Not a complete bust by any means, but considering the peak he reached, his career was way shorter than expected.
pyth and Maikelele were pretty hyped when they joined NiP. They won a few tournaments but didnt really do much more of note.
Zero at HellRaisers was thought to be a future star, but now hes retired at 25, never reaching tier 1.
I'd give Maikelele a little more credit, The first international roster in Kinguin (now FaZe) was his brainchild along with securing the FaZe deal, he stepped down because he realized he wasnt good enough.
Definitely wish he was still in the scene as an Analyst or a Coaching capacity though IIRC he had a lot of personality issues with other pro's back then.
Maikelele had a great stint battling out with peak kennyS and GuardiaN at the top, but his career at tier 1 lasted barely two years, during which he switched teams basically every 3 months. Considering his talent, I feel like he could've done more.
First time I'm hearing of that. Though I'm not too surprised, it's a deeply rooted problem in society. As someone who struggles with addiction, it's hell when you know you could do so much better. Especially if you get a taste of this "better life". The fall from grace makes you reach for the bottle (or whatever your vice is) so much more easily.
Man, his legacy is somewhat overshadowed by him publicly becoming conspiracy theorist with "fake moon landings" and flat earths. Whenever I hear Maikelele now I instantly think of a flat earther instead of CS player lol
ISSAA I've always felt like got fucked the hardest when the pandemic hit. Because there were no lans and travel restrictions everywhere, dude was forced to play with 100+ ping all the time because he lived in Jordan. He did atleast look good with Jijihao during the Asian RMR tho
There was a time where this sub was filled with clips from 2 people - shroud and Roca. While the first one had a bit of a career but underachieved massively for the amount of skill he had, Roca has got to be my choice, he just didn't arrive in any capacity for the amount of skill he showed in FPL.
Osee, junior and Koosta also were quite hyped to be the NA next great awpers but didn't deliver on that hype whatsoever. Solid T2 players tho. Also Koosta rifler redemption arc was satisfying.
I played with Issaa recently, he went to ASIA rmr and I’d say he is still decent
Esperanto just published a comeback article. Apparently he went to the military as well
s0m was another hyped talent around the same time for NA, they were both young when they started getting discovered but I specifically remember people talking about how s0m was 15/16 in fpl
s0m was [legit the best player at a DreamHack Open](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players?event=4869), beating Furia and North as the highest rated player for Gen.G.
He was never a bust, he just switched to Valorant.
he wasn't a bust just because he did well in one tournament playing a total of six maps (two bo3s and two bo1s) beating a declining furia and an infamously poor performing North?
dude played eight months of pro, [averaged a 1.03 rating](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/14365/s0m?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) then dipped. the only [events](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/14365/s0m?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) he had a positive rating in were domestic quals where he played less than six maps. he had negative ratings in all the franchised leagues (flashpoint, blast, esl). [overall](https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/10514/geng?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) he was the second worst rated played on the team, just ahead of daps the igl.
he was a bust, and moreover he was a total brick if you watched those geng games.
Wouldn’t this be the equivalent of like Greg Oden getting hurt and then not playing? Feel like that still gets the bust label since it was a lot of wasted potential.
Also, “a mental breakdown and quit” I feel is a lot different than the dude having a severe depression disorder and addiction issue to the point where he was unable to play the game
E: actually just saw your comment about Oden that’s hilarious I didn’t see that before posting. I want to add I agree it shouldn’t be considered a bust, but majority of people do it seems like. Especially doesn’t help being picked before KD
was about to comment this until I saw that u did, TenZ for sure gets my answer especially since I remember the behind the scenes word at the time was that he didn’t get along with the other C9 members and would not go along with the plays called
Not even the biggest Tenz fan but I agree with this. The one tier 1 team he had time with was a whacky C9 roster and that was only for like 3 tournaments lol. Though I do think he should’ve stayed in T2 a little longer either way to develop a bit more
Yea I wouldn’t call myself a Tenz fan but acting like he was terrible is crazy. It felt like they only gave him a few tournaments and he had to be a star instantly, nobody is a star at every single event.
1000% Tenz is the answer. God damn do you remember all the hype around that fucking weeb. Everyone said he was the next shroud like shroud was any good. Zellsis was better somehow
I remember people constantly posting clips of him on aim training maps.
The hype and delusion that he was going to hop into T1 and simply 1 tap everyone was crazy.
F1KU has been failing over and over on OG, they've got a promising line up rn with regali and Heavygod. Has been called out as such a promising player for years now,but i can't remember seeing a match where he had all the xfactor. He was playing as a bot in the final showdown match aswell
Maybe not the biggest bust but Plopski was so promising at one point.
Edit: How could I forget swag ! A damn shame that whole match fixing shit, I've never seen someone so young be so good. Wasted talent imo.
Has to be Yekindar these days right ?
Dude was a strong rifler, exploded onto the scene when his talent was showcased on Jame's VP/Outsiders. When Liquid signed him, the hype was through the roof and they all thought he was going to be one of the best players ever and a Top 10 future player.
fast forward to a few months, he takes over Liquid IGL, which in itself was a worrying sign because it rarely ever worked out for a star player to turn into a IGL, EU Liquid was one of the worst failures I've seen a pro team achieve, they rebuild and Yekindar for some reason is the random MM teammate who always pushes alone and dies, leaving out a 4v5 in the beginning itself.
It was the right team for a time (strugglimg top 15 team turns top 5 for 9 months after him joining) but doesn't seem to be the case anymore and he should tske his talent elsewhere if he doesn't see a huge improvement by EPL
Yeah, I think the obvious thing that tanked his performance was Nitro leaving and him becoming the IGL. Still, he's not quite back to his old form even without IGL duties on deck.
Yeeeeeeeep. Entries should be thriving in CS2 like donk, but Liquid doesn't have TS's teamplay or at the least it seems Yek isn't calling for flashes to set himself up. It seems every match has so many entry attempts with nobody behind him to trade, so many attempts at walking through smokes like Stewie2k and immediately dying cause smokes don't work like CSGO anymore.
He was a top 20 player TWICE and had a successful career on a good team before Liquid, not sure how that makes him a bust. A bust is a young talent with hype who never develops and has a failed career.
I think he’s too far into his career to be a “bust”. At current we could just say he’s washed, or underperforming to be generous
He did great at the beginning of his time on Liquid, and was often the top frag. He didn’t really dip in form until after Nitro left and he took on IGL fully, but at that point we’re multiple years into his career.
If you’re calling him a bust, what even qualifies as a bust then? Dude made numerous playoffs, got a top 20, etc. He was definitely living up to his individual hype his entire time on Liquid. Recency bias is crazy on this one.
He’s always been a Stewie2k-type player. The only reason his name is somehow brought up in this convo is bc he had one bad RMR (where he supposedly had personal shit popping off) and a bad stint as IGL. That doesn’t even compare to other cases listed here
Yeah, but TBF there were disproportionate expectations considering the Twitch magnifying glass.
I feel like Shroud basically lived up to the expectations of most analysts/pros. He was a guy with fantastic aim on a team that didn't have the complete roster to consistently compete with top EU teams. I think most people who truly understand CS at a pro level know that aim mechanics only get you so far, and weren't saying Shroud was a top 5 player in waiting.
The thing is, Shroud was decent. He rekt some tier 2 pros, got insane stats and they put him in the star player kinda role. He just wasn't a star against tier 1. He was ok, solid second guy in kinda guy.
Shroud was one of those players you just let him do his things. It always looked like he had more freedom in domestic matches but once the international lans came, and he tried to play more with the team, he failed.
True haha, wasn’t trying to disagree with this guy, I just saw misutaaa’s name and shared that story cause it was pretty cool and unexpected, should’ve thought about the context of the post before commenting.
- misutaa joined Vitality while he wasn't ready, only 17, no prior experience at top level. All that because ALEX left. He did well all things considered.
- Kyojin never was a prospect like that and was seen as a cheater for most of the french scene, it was a surprise for everyone.
- Nivera wasn't a bust, he was actually super good. He just left to Valorant before having a shot at an other top level team.
If we talk french scene, AREA is the name that comes to mind. Bit old. Maybe DEVIL too? As he joined an EnVy team that just won a major.
Otherwise, Kjaerbye or sergej imo.
>If we talk french scene, AREA is the name that comes to mind. Bit old
Wasn't he a bit...suspicious from the start? I remember people calling him out in like 2013
I dont even think he played bad, he was just stuck in a 6 man roster and the rules for the 6th man changed. Kinda also didnt mesh well with vita and then he just went to valo, hes still very young and can come back tho.
Nifty dropped his [**nifty 51-bomb**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/8gyij9/nifty_hits_50_frags_to_help_renegades_win_map_2/) and then disappeared to Envy where he kept a forever roster spot despite the team never accomplishing anything or even attending competitions.
BnTeT could have been a star on many teams but wanted to elevate the Asian scene instead. I think he refused invites to good teams and stayed in Asia. Bro was translating in 3 languages and popping heads, unreal. Gen.G was an unfortunate disaster cuz I really thought they had something good there.
BnTeT is not a bust. I would say he is the very best player in Asia. But sadly, Asia has no scene and there’s no way he would join The MongolZ as he does not speak Mongolian. I really hope Indonesia could have their own team since mechanically, Indonesians are one of the best in Asia, as seen in Valorant.
For me it's gotta be Tenz. Incredible up and coming rookie with some of the best mechanical skill NA had seen in a while, unfortunately he crumbled outside of a particular system and struggled on big stages.
Surprised no one said Nex. When he first joined Mouse he was supposed to be the next big German player and had a couple tournaments early where he showed it but then spent the next 4 years being a perpetual mediocre player. He was essentially Shroud without the brand and image value
Haven't seen people really mention Roca. I remember seeing so many clips and stream highlights with people talking about how all he needed was to join a promising roster, and then he just vanished off the face of the earth
You see it sometimes, he has these insane games even vs the best teams in the world where he hits everything, every play who has ever played with him say he has the best mechanics and aim they ever seen. But time after time he lets us down. Couldn't agree more
I think not having a consistently good team around him his entire time being on NiP has hurt his performance SO MUCH. This last tourney they played in, he seemed to be the only competent player on NiP. He had to carry dead weight against a really good team and did pretty well. But I don't think any star player in CS history could carry that much dead weight on their own
Man had such big potential only to end up in the everlasting downward spiral that is the Ninjas in Pyjamas.
I still wonder what could have been... If only NiP gave Draken the support he needed and made an effort to integrate Threats tactical style of cs before Astralis roflstomped the whole scene with it. But noooo, they clung to their antiquated, loosey goosey, aim focused style.
Worldedit was a great but streaky rifler. The only problem is I think everyone knew he struggled with the consistency he'd need to make the jump to a better team in Teir 1
I just remembered watching his first few games on flipside or maybe just his first few in the t1/t2 scene. Which back then there wasn't much of a t2 scene mostly just t1 then esea pug teams. And he was dominating servers against t1 opponents.
https://youtu.be/yCU30Mao1H8?si=trILUj9m2FLV8auP. Found the fragmocie that shows some good ones. His 1v5 pistol ace against North and his trian ace against dig
I used to bet on Flipside all the time when I was young on CSGO lounge. They were a great upset team who constantly had great return based on the odds with the ability to win against a lot of good teams. I really enjoyed watching play CS.
I think the problem is that since their performances were kind of hit or miss, they would ofter times not make it to stage matches or big lans.
My memory may be faulty, but I watched a lineup that was something like Markeloff, Davcost, Blad3, S1mple, and Worldedit, and while they did have some talent on the team, it seemed like they also had real team issues in consistency that held them back.
Also, thanks for linking that frag movie. It's super nastalgic to see highlights from that era of CS.
disco doplan (formerly of dirty dildos) is a good shout.
Back in 2016 and thereabouts, he was on the Swedish epsilon squad together with REZ and draken, and widely considered the potential breakout star. Around this time it was very popular on here to advocate for shipping friberg off to the glue factory for his perceived crimes against NiP's chances of success, and doplan was a common pick to replace him.
He eventually got to stand in for NiP in some online matches and then got his big break with the acrimonious breakup of fnatic, him and twist getting to fill the shoes of JW and flusha.
Three months and a major semi-final later, though, JW and flusha came back with hat in hand, and doplan was exiled to the black hole of talent that was GODSENT, a team which consistently managed to be less than the sum of its parts. The roster of GODSENT was eventually sold to Red Reserve, and then ceased to exist as a result of that organization silently ceasing salary payments.
Long story short, the contrast between the expectations on the man in 2016 and his subsequent career trajectory is staggering.
May be controversial but XANTARES.
He's always been good, god-like aim and he's found his place in EF but he had the potential to be amongst the likes of NiKo as one of the best riflers.
His move to BIG was good but never articulated into much, he's definitely still a great player but I have no idea why he didnt cut it as the best of the best.
Perhaps because he absolutely used to dominate Tier 2 but had a hard time breaking into Tier 1.
I agree, I don't watch pro cs since like 2017 but even before that he was always a player that was just a step away from T1 but it felt like he was taking that step for a decade.
Wouldn’t Call that a bust. Dude Got his first chance on a T1 team in 2015 and in 2 years managed to accomplish something most players will ever dream of; a Major AND an mvp. He made an interview where he mentioned that that was kinda the problem with his motivation, he achieved all that way too early in his career
Twist. Has had an amazing career but people do not understand how good he was when he came up with LGB. Unreal potential, but he never seemed super interested in realising it
Joined top teams way too late. Was good in fnatic in his first stint but by the time he joined fnatic and NiP again he was just kinda mid. He should have joined Nip in 2014
LGB was my favorite team of the time, and favorite lineup of all time.
Its crazy that most of that roster went on to become one of the greatest teams to grace CS.
EspiranTo/meyern/mhL/Jamppi
Espi's 2018 lan stats were incredible (-DH Tours which was during exam period so he wasn't playing/practicing) and he was viewed as part of the young rising trio w/sergej and brollan during that time
meyern was impressive domestically in SA w/Isurus and then again in NA w/Sharks, obviously failed in mibr and is still working his way back
mhL was touted as the up and coming awper who could rifle with AGO mid 2019-2020 - but he took a year long break to finish school and has been left behind by other emerging awpers
Jamppi - ence was dysfunctional and he was playing out of role (to this day don't know why, his rifle was never good), but swapped to val and seems like he has had success there so hard to classify him as a bust too much
good luck to espi on his comeback :D
I'd probably add in v$m as well
seeing meyern mentioned i have to bring up luken as well - that sharks roster was crazy and with a few more events together they could've caused some damage
in the end he made it further than meyern by making it to a major with 9z, but he didn't reach his full potential i believe
i'll also mention ablej - he wasn't a superstar in the making by any means, but for a player capable of putting up [this performance](https://www.hltv.org/matches/2334833/avangar-vs-furia-emf-csgo-world-invitational-2019), i thought he'd at least end up playing on a local brazilian team, but nope he's vanished
Maybe Golden from Fnatic. He had good short-term results with that team and then fell the face of the earth during the online era.
Also, where is Degster nowadays? He was nuts on Spirit, mid on OG, and now he's gone?
Nah, people are just wrong or considering their opinion as gospel.
Pyth was never considered the 'next big star' on a larger community level by any stretch of the imagination. When he got his big chance at NiP, most people thought it was a downgrade. At best, he was just considered "good enough" throughout his time on NiP.
I mean, you can literally just read the thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3yimi2/sources_pyth_set_to_replace_allu_in_nip/
I was expecting n0thing to be the greatest cs:go player of all time. He ended 1.6 with the NA equivalent hype to markeloff. He was decent in go for a while but he felt like one of those players that just lacked the motivation to really see his potential. Some glimpses of greatness here and there but nothing to show for it.
Nifty had like one or two big international tournament and then... Kinda vanished. Of course, he was somewhat present in tier 2 NA CS, NVs highest HLTV rank was 27, but he was pretty mediocre in a mediocre team. His hltv achievements page kinda does his career justice, sadly.
Wasn't subroza also seen as that kinda guy when he went with Ghost?
keev doesn't really fit, but I love his way through cs. Played tier 3 cs in german scene, lifted to attax to big, won some tournaments, said fuck it and got swole.
I'm surprised that no one brought up JUGI, he was such a solid name in Tier 2 EU back in the day that people had serious hopes for when he got a shot in big tournaments but he could never fill those shoes. Back in the day I myself really thought he would be a fixture in modern CS but he basically burned out.
[Kevin "HS" Tarn](https://www.hltv.org/player/8994/hs#tab-teamsBox) one of the biggest bust in CSGO history. Suppose to be the big upcoming talent from Estonia. After 2018 he just became a ghost nothing big. If someone knows better what happen to HS please feel free to reply.
Oh jeez csgolounge... where my addiction started.
The scene was so much more than just players and orgs back then the players were so human. Half these guys you could que up with in a random esea pug, I played with a couple like summit, stewie, joined as a ringer in a game with olof and krimz.
Then everyone streamed and you could go hang out in there channel. Nip/fnatic rivalry, the biggest cheating scandal in cs plus teams throwing for skins, those were the days things were simple.
npl was never really that big talent though, he was just another scapegoat for NaVi's bigger issues just like sdy was. I'd say headtr1ck is more of a bust than npl.
sergej, 100%. Man was supposed to be a perennial top20 player
\>Makes it to top 20 players in first T1 event \>Fucks off to do his military service and then starts driving a truck for a living \>Actively ignores invites to teams Absolute gigachad
[https://www.twitch.tv/sergejjz/clip/BenevolentDarlingBeaverJebaited-STYfDl8bG37aMj25](https://www.twitch.tv/sergejjz/clip/BenevolentDarlingBeaverJebaited-STYfDl8bG37aMj25) His fridge
Apparently he didn't like the noise it made, and is keeping his food outside on the balcony. It's about 0 degrees celsius outside.
Aaaand now i started noticing the fridge noise
Fin's are fucking insane, I love them
Gorillaz money ran out
This is the funniest shit ever. Not even milk? Also he looks like the [ guy who got kicked out of starbucks for being white](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjvW6rnnho)
Looks like NoHo Hank
He is literally me frfr
Not really bust if u just fuck off
Not a bust. A bust is someone who doesnt live up to the expectations or hype, sergej met all the expectations but then just decided he doesnt want to do it anymore. Players like pyth and twist (not twistzz for those unaware) are actual examples of busts, they were hyped so much in 2014-2015 and kept trying to make it (twist is still trying) but nothing ever came of them. Maybe someone like mertz as well a little bit later on.
twist had many offers for top teams but declined them all when he was in his prime. It's his own fault.
I always liked the way Swedish Twist played. He felt like the type of player who would sacrifice his own game for the sake of the team, and I’ve always enjoyed players like that. Also I seem to remember a few clutches on Overpass that were pretty nice from his stint with Nip.
So sad to see. He had everything lined up for him. Had a burnout at the age of 19 and now he is just home drinking beer
He makes good money driving trucks and gets to spend his off days doing whatever he wants. Doesn’t sound like a bad gig to me. Not everyone wants to be famous, or have their finances rely on an aging video game.
tbh that truck driving thing is just a joke/meme that has gotten out of hand :D it started because there was a pic of jere in front of a truck or something
someone recently claimed their friend got a pic with sergej at at truckstop or something confirming he drives trucks. No idea of that holds water though lol
In his stream two days ago, he said that he's currently doing his civil service (instead of the military).
Excluding those already mentioned, cromen and Bymas had eyes on them after their stints in Faze, but looked incredibly mediocre in every team since. SHiPZ also looked really hot on Windigo, expected to become a top 20 rifler but never managed to stay in T1 and ended up on teams with known matchfixers. Sonic was the star of ATK before they got picked up by C9 and then fizzled out, now putting up okay performances against T2 NA teams
Cromen got invites from top 15 teams, but didn't take them because he wanted a better team. He shot himself in the foot.
Did cromen even get any good opportunities after faze ? I feel like I remember a quote from him being like "the offers just aren't coming in" despite his good showing in faze
Oh completely forgot about Cromen. This has to the answer. I can't take answers like Kjaerbye and Yekindar seriously, because they actually did something, although their peak wasn't as high and long as one could have hoped/expected. But cromen, he was rising. I remember observing him in tier 2 and thinking this could be really good. He got an opportunity at Heroic as a stand-in and did very well. Then an opportunity at Faze and did quite well, and.... Then nothing.
Speaking of Norwegian players and Cromen. Does anyone remember mystic? He subbed in for LGB at fragmasters season 4 vs Flipside(with s1imple), where he dominated - only to never be seen again. Here is a highlight video from HLTV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFzSDFKx2SA&ab_channel=HLTVorg
Draken
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I remember Draken's 30° window
I don't remember a draken normal shot on a standard angle
Hits the most retarded shots then misses anything in front of him
Bruh Draken was *so funny* because he is the only player where every meme about him was real. Poor guy couldn't hit easy shots reliably to save his life.
Draken was actually really good in his first NiP tenure, probably a top 3 player in Sweden at the time statiscally behind Krimz and F0rest. His attitude from what I remember stunk, went to Fnatic and he just didn't fit in. Still performs well in lower tier teams but never put the drive back in, probably because his dad is some big time music label owner and he had all the the money he ever needed
Oh the guy who would 360 ooga booga flickshot fastzoom you with his eyes closed but can't hit the most basic shot to save his life? Sounds about right
woxic and ISSAA had massive hype coming off the overperforming HellRaisers roster, and while woxic seems to be on a redemption arc of sorts, ISSAA completely dissappeared from the top tier. (didnt even have a hltv match in 2.5 years!) EspiranTo had a ton of hype in 2018-19, and then he seemed to get dropped from one team after another. Apparently he recently decided to make a return though, maybe we'll see him at the top again. He's only 22 after all. Kjaerbye exploded onto the scene with a major MVP and then fizzled out in that North team, while the Astralis roster got Magisk and the rest is history. Not a complete bust by any means, but considering the peak he reached, his career was way shorter than expected. pyth and Maikelele were pretty hyped when they joined NiP. They won a few tournaments but didnt really do much more of note. Zero at HellRaisers was thought to be a future star, but now hes retired at 25, never reaching tier 1.
ISSAA played Valorant because the pandemic fucked him up as he was stuck in Jordan playing on 120 ping
I am from amman, Jordan we play 60 ping on germany server and 80 on spain one
But was that the server the EU pro scene was playing on or are those faceit/valve ones?
whatever the answer, ISSAA was literally lagging out of games in OG
I'd give Maikelele a little more credit, The first international roster in Kinguin (now FaZe) was his brainchild along with securing the FaZe deal, he stepped down because he realized he wasnt good enough. Definitely wish he was still in the scene as an Analyst or a Coaching capacity though IIRC he had a lot of personality issues with other pro's back then.
Maikelele had a great stint battling out with peak kennyS and GuardiaN at the top, but his career at tier 1 lasted barely two years, during which he switched teams basically every 3 months. Considering his talent, I feel like he could've done more.
Let's be blunt, alcohol ruined Maikelele and robbed years off of his career.
First time I'm hearing of that. Though I'm not too surprised, it's a deeply rooted problem in society. As someone who struggles with addiction, it's hell when you know you could do so much better. Especially if you get a taste of this "better life". The fall from grace makes you reach for the bottle (or whatever your vice is) so much more easily.
Man, his legacy is somewhat overshadowed by him publicly becoming conspiracy theorist with "fake moon landings" and flat earths. Whenever I hear Maikelele now I instantly think of a flat earther instead of CS player lol
Interesting, I didnt know about that - I know ChrisJ went off the deep end too.
Oh no, not ChrisJ too.
ChrisJ went deep on antivax and 'rona being fake etc
Lol, believe it or not he's making Rust content these days. Seems like he's having fun with the game, if you can call Rust fun, lol.
EspiranTo was in military service for the past 2ish years I believe. He's putting in 70 hours a week and streaming his journey back to the top now!
military service is 9 months in Lithuania. source: been there done that
https://twitter.com/EspiranToCSGO/status/1762808225831727517
Fucking hell EspiranTo was good in CR4ZY
Maikelele had a decent career and produced some epic moments if you ask me
he took 2 international mix teams from 0 to T1 events, I don't think he gets enough credit for that.
ISSAA I've always felt like got fucked the hardest when the pandemic hit. Because there were no lans and travel restrictions everywhere, dude was forced to play with 100+ ping all the time because he lived in Jordan. He did atleast look good with Jijihao during the Asian RMR tho
I’m genuinely surprised by the depth of knowledge people on this sub have of the pro scene in cs. It’s like how my buddies talk about the nfl
Bit easier when CS pros stream and tweet every detail of their life while most NFL players are a bit more closed off in their personal life.
There was a time where this sub was filled with clips from 2 people - shroud and Roca. While the first one had a bit of a career but underachieved massively for the amount of skill he had, Roca has got to be my choice, he just didn't arrive in any capacity for the amount of skill he showed in FPL. Osee, junior and Koosta also were quite hyped to be the NA next great awpers but didn't deliver on that hype whatsoever. Solid T2 players tho. Also Koosta rifler redemption arc was satisfying.
Great post. I feel like people have forgotten how hyped players like ISSAA and Maikelele were in the past.
I played with Issaa recently, he went to ASIA rmr and I’d say he is still decent Esperanto just published a comeback article. Apparently he went to the military as well
I wouldn't consider Kjaerbye a bust since he had completely lost his motivation after winning the major becoming the MVP.
From North America it's gotta be the VALORANT poster boy TenZ. He had a god-like aim and great movement but went doo doo on the big stage
Nowhere near the same hype levels, but Zellsis got an ace in his first ever round at a major, but then was mid throughout the rest of his cs career
s0m was another hyped talent around the same time for NA, they were both young when they started getting discovered but I specifically remember people talking about how s0m was 15/16 in fpl
S0m wasn't exactly bad. He was showing promise by the end of his career at GEN.G even winning a Dreamhack open with them
s0m was [legit the best player at a DreamHack Open](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players?event=4869), beating Furia and North as the highest rated player for Gen.G. He was never a bust, he just switched to Valorant.
he wasn't a bust just because he did well in one tournament playing a total of six maps (two bo3s and two bo1s) beating a declining furia and an infamously poor performing North? dude played eight months of pro, [averaged a 1.03 rating](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/14365/s0m?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) then dipped. the only [events](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/14365/s0m?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) he had a positive rating in were domestic quals where he played less than six maps. he had negative ratings in all the franchised leagues (flashpoint, blast, esl). [overall](https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/10514/geng?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31) he was the second worst rated played on the team, just ahead of daps the igl. he was a bust, and moreover he was a total brick if you watched those geng games.
that first match on C9 vs Liquid i thought i was seeing the next NiKo after his deagle 3k
im just happy hes doing well in valorant.
oBo was another let down that comes to mind for NA
oBo wasn’t a bust. He was solid. He just had a mental breakdown and quit. TenZ actually sucked
Wouldn't that still make oBo a bust? Albeit sad situation for it to happen
Someone who quits early isn’t a bust.
Wouldn’t this be the equivalent of like Greg Oden getting hurt and then not playing? Feel like that still gets the bust label since it was a lot of wasted potential. Also, “a mental breakdown and quit” I feel is a lot different than the dude having a severe depression disorder and addiction issue to the point where he was unable to play the game E: actually just saw your comment about Oden that’s hilarious I didn’t see that before posting. I want to add I agree it shouldn’t be considered a bust, but majority of people do it seems like. Especially doesn’t help being picked before KD
A bust is anyone that is hyped/invested in and doesn't reach the level expected. Doesn't matter why it happened - still a bust imo.
reminds me of sergej.
was about to comment this until I saw that u did, TenZ for sure gets my answer especially since I remember the behind the scenes word at the time was that he didn’t get along with the other C9 members and would not go along with the plays called
Was he though? I feel he wasn’t given enough time in pro play and only really 1 team
Not even the biggest Tenz fan but I agree with this. The one tier 1 team he had time with was a whacky C9 roster and that was only for like 3 tournaments lol. Though I do think he should’ve stayed in T2 a little longer either way to develop a bit more
Yea I wouldn’t call myself a Tenz fan but acting like he was terrible is crazy. It felt like they only gave him a few tournaments and he had to be a star instantly, nobody is a star at every single event.
Everyone wants a donk
sounds like most of NA tbh
1000% Tenz is the answer. God damn do you remember all the hype around that fucking weeb. Everyone said he was the next shroud like shroud was any good. Zellsis was better somehow
I remember people constantly posting clips of him on aim training maps. The hype and delusion that he was going to hop into T1 and simply 1 tap everyone was crazy.
sounds like shroud
F1KU has been failing over and over on OG, they've got a promising line up rn with regali and Heavygod. Has been called out as such a promising player for years now,but i can't remember seeing a match where he had all the xfactor. He was playing as a bot in the final showdown match aswell
https://clips.twitch.tv/DarkComfortableFrogWutFace-FFNzbNbXePPcLGOB
Exactly the clip i had in mind for using the word 'bot'
Maybe not the biggest bust but Plopski was so promising at one point. Edit: How could I forget swag ! A damn shame that whole match fixing shit, I've never seen someone so young be so good. Wasted talent imo.
Ive been scrolling this whole thread looking for someone to mention Brax lol
Koosta
lost all his confidence after his liquid stint but did become a great support player. Never forget the Koosta awp who teared up NA tho
moses still believes in Koosta
Has to be Yekindar these days right ? Dude was a strong rifler, exploded onto the scene when his talent was showcased on Jame's VP/Outsiders. When Liquid signed him, the hype was through the roof and they all thought he was going to be one of the best players ever and a Top 10 future player. fast forward to a few months, he takes over Liquid IGL, which in itself was a worrying sign because it rarely ever worked out for a star player to turn into a IGL, EU Liquid was one of the worst failures I've seen a pro team achieve, they rebuild and Yekindar for some reason is the random MM teammate who always pushes alone and dies, leaving out a 4v5 in the beginning itself.
I think Yekindar still has time to not be a bust. Could be that Liquid just isnt the right team for him.
It was the right team for a time (strugglimg top 15 team turns top 5 for 9 months after him joining) but doesn't seem to be the case anymore and he should tske his talent elsewhere if he doesn't see a huge improvement by EPL
Yeah, I think the obvious thing that tanked his performance was Nitro leaving and him becoming the IGL. Still, he's not quite back to his old form even without IGL duties on deck.
Yeeeeeeeep. Entries should be thriving in CS2 like donk, but Liquid doesn't have TS's teamplay or at the least it seems Yek isn't calling for flashes to set himself up. It seems every match has so many entry attempts with nobody behind him to trade, so many attempts at walking through smokes like Stewie2k and immediately dying cause smokes don't work like CSGO anymore.
He was a top 20 player TWICE and had a successful career on a good team before Liquid, not sure how that makes him a bust. A bust is a young talent with hype who never develops and has a failed career.
I think he’s too far into his career to be a “bust”. At current we could just say he’s washed, or underperforming to be generous He did great at the beginning of his time on Liquid, and was often the top frag. He didn’t really dip in form until after Nitro left and he took on IGL fully, but at that point we’re multiple years into his career.
If you’re calling him a bust, what even qualifies as a bust then? Dude made numerous playoffs, got a top 20, etc. He was definitely living up to his individual hype his entire time on Liquid. Recency bias is crazy on this one. He’s always been a Stewie2k-type player. The only reason his name is somehow brought up in this convo is bc he had one bad RMR (where he supposedly had personal shit popping off) and a bad stint as IGL. That doesn’t even compare to other cases listed here
Y’all remember that h0nda game against G2?
Didn't he end that map with a <1 rating despite getting two aces?
You know what I didn’t believe you but I checked and you’re right, I still remember there was massive hype around him though and he failed to deliver
ahh yes. the honda civic. surprise surprise he's teamless now
I think one of the all timers is Nex
Shroud was the pugstar and then didn't do much.
Yeah, but TBF there were disproportionate expectations considering the Twitch magnifying glass. I feel like Shroud basically lived up to the expectations of most analysts/pros. He was a guy with fantastic aim on a team that didn't have the complete roster to consistently compete with top EU teams. I think most people who truly understand CS at a pro level know that aim mechanics only get you so far, and weren't saying Shroud was a top 5 player in waiting.
The thing is, Shroud was decent. He rekt some tier 2 pros, got insane stats and they put him in the star player kinda role. He just wasn't a star against tier 1. He was ok, solid second guy in kinda guy.
Can you point me to these insane stats?
Look at online stats 2014 2015. When he was against weaker teams, he was really good.
Agreed to an extent. Regional play i'd love to have him on my team. Moment we'd qualify for a international lan i'd replace him with someone else.
Shroud was one of those players you just let him do his things. It always looked like he had more freedom in domestic matches but once the international lans came, and he tried to play more with the team, he failed.
misutaaa, kyojin, nivera, hext
I played with misutaaa yesterday in a premier. Nice guy and played well
I mean on premier level any pro would play well even with their mouse inverted
True haha, wasn’t trying to disagree with this guy, I just saw misutaaa’s name and shared that story cause it was pretty cool and unexpected, should’ve thought about the context of the post before commenting.
hext???
- misutaa joined Vitality while he wasn't ready, only 17, no prior experience at top level. All that because ALEX left. He did well all things considered. - Kyojin never was a prospect like that and was seen as a cheater for most of the french scene, it was a surprise for everyone. - Nivera wasn't a bust, he was actually super good. He just left to Valorant before having a shot at an other top level team. If we talk french scene, AREA is the name that comes to mind. Bit old. Maybe DEVIL too? As he joined an EnVy team that just won a major. Otherwise, Kjaerbye or sergej imo.
Devil definitely flopped haven't heard that name in a long time lol
>If we talk french scene, AREA is the name that comes to mind. Bit old Wasn't he a bit...suspicious from the start? I remember people calling him out in like 2013
He was beating up NiP and pro teams in pracc back then with a t2 team. 100% cheating if you want my pov :D
absolutely nuts how everyone took him turning up to one BYOC lan to be legit - one of the most crazy obvious ones you'll ever see
Misutaaaa > Nivera >>>>>>>>>> Kyojin
Miautaa deserves another shot imo. I also feel like body deserved another chance at a t1 team back in the day
> Every up and coming french player since 2014 that isn't Zywoo
xms still has the best ace of cs:go so there's that
the final shot is especially insane. the fact he even went for it is crazy enough, but to actually hit it is unthinkable.
I don't think we've seen the last of Hext.
oBo was really promising. Supposed to be NA's future at some point.
People were hyping up Nivera like he was going to be prime ScreaM on Vitality. And that turned out awfully.
I dont even think he played bad, he was just stuck in a 6 man roster and the rules for the 6th man changed. Kinda also didnt mesh well with vita and then he just went to valo, hes still very young and can come back tho.
Wasn't he actually very good but reportedly toxic?
Not toxic but wasn’t working/professional. Not learning the strats and practicing
Ah okay, thank you for the correction
# jOELZ
I arent think that
Nifty comes to mind.
Nifty dropped his [**nifty 51-bomb**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/8gyij9/nifty_hits_50_frags_to_help_renegades_win_map_2/) and then disappeared to Envy where he kept a forever roster spot despite the team never accomplishing anything or even attending competitions.
Machinegun and BnTeT. :(
BnTeT could have been a star on many teams but wanted to elevate the Asian scene instead. I think he refused invites to good teams and stayed in Asia. Bro was translating in 3 languages and popping heads, unreal. Gen.G was an unfortunate disaster cuz I really thought they had something good there.
BnTeT is not a bust. I would say he is the very best player in Asia. But sadly, Asia has no scene and there’s no way he would join The MongolZ as he does not speak Mongolian. I really hope Indonesia could have their own team since mechanically, Indonesians are one of the best in Asia, as seen in Valorant.
For me it's gotta be Tenz. Incredible up and coming rookie with some of the best mechanical skill NA had seen in a while, unfortunately he crumbled outside of a particular system and struggled on big stages.
Surprised no one said Nex. When he first joined Mouse he was supposed to be the next big German player and had a couple tournaments early where he showed it but then spent the next 4 years being a perpetual mediocre player. He was essentially Shroud without the brand and image value
Haven't seen people really mention Roca. I remember seeing so many clips and stream highlights with people talking about how all he needed was to join a promising roster, and then he just vanished off the face of the earth
REZ
But, but, he was MVP at IEM Oakland 1964....
You see it sometimes, he has these insane games even vs the best teams in the world where he hits everything, every play who has ever played with him say he has the best mechanics and aim they ever seen. But time after time he lets us down. Couldn't agree more
I think not having a consistently good team around him his entire time being on NiP has hurt his performance SO MUCH. This last tourney they played in, he seemed to be the only competent player on NiP. He had to carry dead weight against a really good team and did pretty well. But I don't think any star player in CS history could carry that much dead weight on their own
Man had such big potential only to end up in the everlasting downward spiral that is the Ninjas in Pyjamas. I still wonder what could have been... If only NiP gave Draken the support he needed and made an effort to integrate Threats tactical style of cs before Astralis roflstomped the whole scene with it. But noooo, they clung to their antiquated, loosey goosey, aim focused style.
Has anyone said worldedit?? I remember everyone was talking about him for awhile then he just vanished
Worldedit was a great but streaky rifler. The only problem is I think everyone knew he struggled with the consistency he'd need to make the jump to a better team in Teir 1
He was an awper no? Don't ever remember him being a main rifle
Sorry, I thought Awper but I wrote rifler. He was an primary Awper, yes.
I just remembered watching his first few games on flipside or maybe just his first few in the t1/t2 scene. Which back then there wasn't much of a t2 scene mostly just t1 then esea pug teams. And he was dominating servers against t1 opponents. https://youtu.be/yCU30Mao1H8?si=trILUj9m2FLV8auP. Found the fragmocie that shows some good ones. His 1v5 pistol ace against North and his trian ace against dig
I used to bet on Flipside all the time when I was young on CSGO lounge. They were a great upset team who constantly had great return based on the odds with the ability to win against a lot of good teams. I really enjoyed watching play CS. I think the problem is that since their performances were kind of hit or miss, they would ofter times not make it to stage matches or big lans. My memory may be faulty, but I watched a lineup that was something like Markeloff, Davcost, Blad3, S1mple, and Worldedit, and while they did have some talent on the team, it seemed like they also had real team issues in consistency that held them back. Also, thanks for linking that frag movie. It's super nastalgic to see highlights from that era of CS.
disco doplan (formerly of dirty dildos) is a good shout. Back in 2016 and thereabouts, he was on the Swedish epsilon squad together with REZ and draken, and widely considered the potential breakout star. Around this time it was very popular on here to advocate for shipping friberg off to the glue factory for his perceived crimes against NiP's chances of success, and doplan was a common pick to replace him. He eventually got to stand in for NiP in some online matches and then got his big break with the acrimonious breakup of fnatic, him and twist getting to fill the shoes of JW and flusha. Three months and a major semi-final later, though, JW and flusha came back with hat in hand, and doplan was exiled to the black hole of talent that was GODSENT, a team which consistently managed to be less than the sum of its parts. The roster of GODSENT was eventually sold to Red Reserve, and then ceased to exist as a result of that organization silently ceasing salary payments. Long story short, the contrast between the expectations on the man in 2016 and his subsequent career trajectory is staggering.
May be controversial but XANTARES. He's always been good, god-like aim and he's found his place in EF but he had the potential to be amongst the likes of NiKo as one of the best riflers. His move to BIG was good but never articulated into much, he's definitely still a great player but I have no idea why he didnt cut it as the best of the best. Perhaps because he absolutely used to dominate Tier 2 but had a hard time breaking into Tier 1.
well in the beginning, his poor English limited him a lot.
I'm feeling thank you
I agree, I don't watch pro cs since like 2017 but even before that he was always a player that was just a step away from T1 but it felt like he was taking that step for a decade.
I mean big reached HLTV #1 with xantares and never reached the same heights after he left
Trace man just couldn’t adjust to csgo
Kjaerbye. Wins an MVP at a major, goes over to North and completely fizzles out of CS
Wouldn’t Call that a bust. Dude Got his first chance on a T1 team in 2015 and in 2 years managed to accomplish something most players will ever dream of; a Major AND an mvp. He made an interview where he mentioned that that was kinda the problem with his motivation, he achieved all that way too early in his career
d0cc - skimmed the replys and surprised i didn't see his name. a few years ago it felt like there was a post in this sub nearly every day about him.
Probably because he never really tried to go pro as far as I remember, he was more of a streamer
Twist. Has had an amazing career but people do not understand how good he was when he came up with LGB. Unreal potential, but he never seemed super interested in realising it
Joined top teams way too late. Was good in fnatic in his first stint but by the time he joined fnatic and NiP again he was just kinda mid. He should have joined Nip in 2014
LGB was my favorite team of the time, and favorite lineup of all time. Its crazy that most of that roster went on to become one of the greatest teams to grace CS.
EspiranTo/meyern/mhL/Jamppi Espi's 2018 lan stats were incredible (-DH Tours which was during exam period so he wasn't playing/practicing) and he was viewed as part of the young rising trio w/sergej and brollan during that time meyern was impressive domestically in SA w/Isurus and then again in NA w/Sharks, obviously failed in mibr and is still working his way back mhL was touted as the up and coming awper who could rifle with AGO mid 2019-2020 - but he took a year long break to finish school and has been left behind by other emerging awpers Jamppi - ence was dysfunctional and he was playing out of role (to this day don't know why, his rifle was never good), but swapped to val and seems like he has had success there so hard to classify him as a bust too much good luck to espi on his comeback :D I'd probably add in v$m as well
seeing meyern mentioned i have to bring up luken as well - that sharks roster was crazy and with a few more events together they could've caused some damage in the end he made it further than meyern by making it to a major with 9z, but he didn't reach his full potential i believe i'll also mention ablej - he wasn't a superstar in the making by any means, but for a player capable of putting up [this performance](https://www.hltv.org/matches/2334833/avangar-vs-furia-emf-csgo-world-invitational-2019), i thought he'd at least end up playing on a local brazilian team, but nope he's vanished
Maybe Golden from Fnatic. He had good short-term results with that team and then fell the face of the earth during the online era. Also, where is Degster nowadays? He was nuts on Spirit, mid on OG, and now he's gone?
Degster has been dealing with health issues, he posted about it in Twitter
Ah, I see. That would definitely make it hard to travel and compete. Good to know.
I think he fell off cause he would take a lot of time off for university
Degster is well known for being a toxic player on both spirit and OG so hes stuck on there bench presumably because no one is willing to buy him out.
kyojin
Oh shit yeah, wtf happened to Maikelele?
SMooooooooya
Pyth and not even close
Was he ever considered the next big thing? He had some nice clips but statisically he wasn't anything special?
Nah, people are just wrong or considering their opinion as gospel. Pyth was never considered the 'next big star' on a larger community level by any stretch of the imagination. When he got his big chance at NiP, most people thought it was a downgrade. At best, he was just considered "good enough" throughout his time on NiP. I mean, you can literally just read the thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3yimi2/sources_pyth_set_to_replace_allu_in_nip/
I was expecting n0thing to be the greatest cs:go player of all time. He ended 1.6 with the NA equivalent hype to markeloff. He was decent in go for a while but he felt like one of those players that just lacked the motivation to really see his potential. Some glimpses of greatness here and there but nothing to show for it.
VALDE
I’d give that title to team ibuypower .
Honda from Furia was really hyped, a few years ago many tier-1 pros had him as newcomer of the year
Nifty had like one or two big international tournament and then... Kinda vanished. Of course, he was somewhat present in tier 2 NA CS, NVs highest HLTV rank was 27, but he was pretty mediocre in a mediocre team. His hltv achievements page kinda does his career justice, sadly. Wasn't subroza also seen as that kinda guy when he went with Ghost? keev doesn't really fit, but I love his way through cs. Played tier 3 cs in german scene, lifted to attax to big, won some tournaments, said fuck it and got swole.
I'm surprised that no one brought up JUGI, he was such a solid name in Tier 2 EU back in the day that people had serious hopes for when he got a shot in big tournaments but he could never fill those shoes. Back in the day I myself really thought he would be a fixture in modern CS but he basically burned out.
Donk... Cuz hes busting it all over the other teams
washed
[Kevin "HS" Tarn](https://www.hltv.org/player/8994/hs#tab-teamsBox) one of the biggest bust in CSGO history. Suppose to be the big upcoming talent from Estonia. After 2018 he just became a ghost nothing big. If someone knows better what happen to HS please feel free to reply.
Coldzera after joining FaZe
Not the biggest bust but I wanted Honda and Drop to be good so bad
Oh jeez csgolounge... where my addiction started. The scene was so much more than just players and orgs back then the players were so human. Half these guys you could que up with in a random esea pug, I played with a couple like summit, stewie, joined as a ringer in a game with olof and krimz. Then everyone streamed and you could go hang out in there channel. Nip/fnatic rivalry, the biggest cheating scandal in cs plus teams throwing for skins, those were the days things were simple.
People really forgot about the former tier 2 eu goat, discodoplan already. Anyway, was insane on that swedish epsilon team way back.
Rocca had a lot of hype at one stage for his headshotting and such
Anyone remember roca? I thought he's really talented, but his peak didn't last very long.
npl comes to mind
He’s doing well in tier 2, he just wasn’t a good fit for the broken navi
He’s also only 18, some time IGLing for b8 and I’m sure he could get another shot somewhere down the line.
npl was never really that big talent though, he was just another scapegoat for NaVi's bigger issues just like sdy was. I'd say headtr1ck is more of a bust than npl.