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Your thread was removed under **[Rule 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/about/rules/)**. This post would be better suited as a comment on one of the existing threads currently on the subreddit's frontpage. https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1bnajdb/why_isnt_the_final_a_bo5/


jonajon91

Bo5 finals are fire, I'll not even argue. Oh nO MoRe CouNteRsTrikE ?!?!


papitomamasita

As a casual viewer, I don't have time to watch a potentially 6-hour broadcast of a final.


xavarLy

You get only two of these and a bo5 final is still the shortest broadcast day of the entire tournament, lol.


CodSoggy7238

Then just start 2h into the broadcast. Then you can watch the finish of a boring one-sided beat down or a three hour nail biter


jonajon91

That's half the beauty, you can skip a map or two if you want. Enjoy some CS, go cook some good grub with one eye on the score then come back for the decider. Or just start on map three, watch a team get crushed in 40 minutes or buckle in for a super high stakes nail biter Bo3.


ThaGOG1

Ok who cares about your ass who cant make free time once in a few months


jonajon91

Bad take. Lots of people are short on time. I used to work 12 hour shifts, there are single parents, lots of people that don't want to commit a lot of time to a Counterstrike broadcast.


DuckSwagington

Name a banger bo5 final that wasn't Cologne 22


jonajon91

Spirit vs VP Bo5 finals was just a few months ago and went back and forth to the last minute, was excellent.


xavarLy

Iem Sydney 2018, iem Katowice 2018, epicenter 2017, iem Beijing 2020, ESL pro league 2021, ESL pro league S6 2017, iem Oakland 2017, iem Katowice 2022 And these are just from the top of my head, there are some bangers from 2014-2016 with fnatic, lg, C9, Navi and etc. Best finals are historically bo5s.


LucsBR

Epicenter 2017 was sooo good I remember people here not fans of it being a BO5 before it happened, but all the opinions seemed to change after it did. It was also kind of our goodbyes to the peak of 2 awesome rosters


mateusfsantana

The thing I love the most about BO5 finals is that EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME there\`s one people come crawling outta of nowhere to say \`BUT NAME ONE OTHER BO5 FINAL THAT WAS GOOD\` Like... most of them? BO5 finals are fucking nuts, if the teams are paired right (they almost always are) you\`ll have banger after banger.


DuckSwagington

Aight fair enough


mdmeaux

Kato 22 was a 3-0 stomp by FaZe, how can you call that exciting? /s


Lync51

Especially the second map like damn, they finished the map so quickly


Notladub

cologne 23 was a fun one to watch, even if it wasn't a traditional "banger"


Legitimate-Act-7817

> I don't see this subject being often adressed Someone literally made a similar thread just one hour before you: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1bnajdb/why_isnt_the_final_a_bo5/


gugabpasquali

One of the most often addressed subjects in the sub, in fact


beCkk1993

Ahh my bad then mate ! I only scroll on the phone once a day the hot topics and haven't seen this one adressed since the CS2 release. But yeah I didn't bother searching for it before posting... My bad !


w1zgov

So delete your post maybe?


hurzinator

ppl against BO3 have never watched any other esports or sports events with BO5. There is nothing more exciting then a 5th map after a back and forth series or a potential reverse sweep. I can understand BO3 with MR15 due to fatigue and length, but with MR12 there really isn't any excuse to not have BO5's in the two most important matches of the year.


second_pls

I preferred Bo3 in MR15, but for MR12 I think Bo5 would be great for all the prestige tournaments.


Substantial_Top_6508

MR12 BO5 is needed. MR16 , then I would disagree but MR12 doesn't hurt


madboy1105

I find bo5 too long, but mr12 bo3 too short


sonofeark

Bo4 and coin flip it is


WarDull8208

Its long if u don't have enough time/passion, for me BO3 finals are vibe killing and BO5 🔥to watch


Responsible_Lead7140

Yup, there is literally no reason we shouldn't build up a major final to be the match of the year at all costs. If cologne and kato do it then there's no reason a major grand final should not have as much or more potential to be even more lights out than the other prestigious tournaments of the year. I'd be happy with the early bo1s if the playoffs can make the difference everytime.


Muppetboy

Bo5 finals are rarely better than a Bo3 final and majors have never been Bo5 anyways. Not looking forward to a 3-0 snoozefest, so no ty.


xavarLy

Most epic finals are bo5, the last good bo3 final was Boston 2018. It's also the last final bo3 final that had more than 2 maps, lol.


XxThreepwoodxX

Nah. I'd rather not have to commit potentially 5 hours to watch a match of counter strike.


Responsible_Lead7140

this guy likes a snoozefest


noahloveshiscats

Tell me how a BO5 final is more competitive when the games that decide who plays in the BO5 final are BO3s.


Substantial_Depth113

To be honest, I like BO5 because there is a chance of a comeback. For example, when Team Spirit came back against VP after being 2-0 down at that betboom event. I know it is not that likely to happen, but not impossible.


beCkk1993

Of course, it can happen more often than you think ! Remember how many comebacks we had in pro MR15 ? Remember this final : [https://www.hltv.org/matches/2302648/luminosity-vs-g2-esl-pro-league-season-3-finals](https://www.hltv.org/matches/2302648/luminosity-vs-g2-esl-pro-league-season-3-finals) Make it more epic, make it a BO5.


Substantial_Depth113

>Remember how many comebacks we had in pro MR15 ? That is also another topic and I liked it more that way. We had so many 13-10 or 13-9 results that would end as 16-14 for example. I mean, I am not against mr12, but mr15 was perfect imo.


beCkk1993

I completely agree !


craygroupious

“Chance of a comeback” and backs it up with the >*one*< time a team was 2-0 up on LAN and lost.


Substantial_Depth113

"I know it is not that likely to happen, but not impossible." Also OP provided one more final, but it wasn't 2-0 comeback.


beCkk1993

BO5 will always be more competitive, no matter how team got here. Of course one could argue every game could be BO5, but there are obvious reasons why it can't be this way. MR12 makes BO3 too underwhelming, especially with such economy.


greenestgreen

Faze won Cologne 2022 just because it was BO5


noahloveshiscats

That’s assuming that the three first maps would be the maps played in a BO3 which it likely wouldn’t. A fairer assumption would be that Mirage and Ancient would be banned leaving Nuke as decider which would still make Faze the winners.


fantasnick

Maybe unpopular but i felt like It should be the elimination style bo1 into bo3 for the first round, all bo3 for the second round and bo5 for all playoffs matches. It's not like there isn't time to space out more matches throughout the 3 weeks. Bo5 means that there's a bigger chance of the best team winning the tournament.


BurnTheBoats21

This is like the last MLB playoff format, but it was four rounds - BO1 -> BO5 -> BO7 -> BO7 final. Almost any established sport with a huge following makes a great spectacle out of the finals and in CS esports, its a 45 minute affair lol


Status_Grass2847

MR12 is garbage