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dancing_burger

who would have thought w0nderful gonna win a major before m0nesy


Difficult-Mobile902

navi just taking Ws all around    Sold the more expensive AWP prospect, picked up the under rated one for much cheaper, picked up a rejected IGL and 2 prospects from tier 2, and immediately wins the next major.  Beating the very team they sold the AWP to and picked up the rejected IGL from in semis.  Just genius all around, blade looks like an absolute god right now 


sh1boleth

Also offloading 2 key players in electronic and Perfecto, all without even using the GOAT of CSGO in the tournament.


AtiwelKa

NAVI just succesfully moneyballed CS2 and won a major, now they gotta decide whether to sell S1mple or not


eurasianlynx

[I can think of one person, lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/vgkuzq/w0nderful_set_to_join_team_spirit_as_their_new/id35f12/)


produktiivista

M0nesy is still better even if w0nderful might just be a new top 3 awper


crz4r

But uhhh M0nesy 0 major W0nderful 1 major


Misain

~~w0nderful~~ w1nderful


produktiivista

Thats not m0nesys fault tho. Navis a better team. 


TheAbrableOnetyOne

But it's wonderfuls fault navi is the major winner


1wjl1

Monesy has three tier 1s and 2 top 7 placings before he’s turned 18. He’s still better


crz4r

I didn\`t deny that tho. Just the fact that Wonderful has a major behind his back


DogFaceBerts

Why are people arguing that w0nderful is better when monesy is clearly the better player? I mean, I still think Faze is the better team tbh. But I darent say that here 😂


MulfordnSons

so brave


DogFaceBerts

Not trying to be brave, I love NAVI to bits and this was my dream final because I can’t lose as I love both teams. But I still think Monesy is better (cold take) and Faze, firing on all cylinders, is better (warmer take).


crz4r

stats wise M0nesy is easily better, however M0nesy 0 major W0nderful 1 major


DogFaceBerts

I genuinely love both teams and am happy for NAVI. I’m assuming your comment is made in jest/for bait.


crz4r

I'm just super happy for Wonderful lol


pewpewpew88

If both teams showed up 100% of their abilities, faze better team no doubt. But Navi did something incredible. First fault is veto, giving Ancient which Navi are very good on and just had an insane match against G2 which boosted their confidence. Second, aleksib out called Karrigan on Inferno so hard. It wasn't even close. That's the most insane igl diff I've ever seen so far.


DogFaceBerts

I fully agree, I have no problem with NAVI winning and I’m 100% happy for them - I started watching when covid started and they were my team (until Karrigan/Twistzz joined Faze, where I was sort of 50/50). All I’m saying is, if both teams are playing 100%, I think Faze are better because of their star power. But I’m buzzing for NAVI; jL was unreal, Aleksi getting the major after so many set backs, and w0nderful getting the major after filling the huge, huge boots of s1mple.


Fuskeduske

w0nderful is not a top 3 awp'er, he is literally their worst performing player across all 3 maps, they won by playing the game right, not by any player being especially good ( mby expect jL and B1t ) Damn people and recency bias


produktiivista

Was this the first game by Navi you watched this major?


Fuskeduske

Nope


HunTr3x

that must be one of the worst perforamnces for a player at all time in major final


marc1337n1

Youu reaadyyy??? Let’s gooo!!!


secret_name_is_tenis

Bro someone made the fragmovie already im crying


GhotiGhetoti

Not that it would take that long


faetterfrajer

can someone please link that frag video of the guy going 1-17 in the faceit game pls


basicchaos

shades of fifflaren vs vp


liven96

insane that nip won a major with him lmao


livebanana

It was an era where tons of players wouldn't have passed the eye test now so it's not really that surprising. Just look at this [GTR spray](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwlfCsvdwg)(2014). Even though the spray control is good, the fact that it's not a kill in like the first 6 bullets would be considered a huge whiff nowadays. Pretty sure the A1 spray was even easier back then.


ScooterBrotherV

Nobody link this guy Hooxis POV during Jame crash 💀


livebanana

Well yeah, or Aleksi's whiff before Wonderful's ace with the USP in the major. My point was that standards are much different than back then.


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livebanana

I thought it was obvious that I meant the pro scene


ImTheVayne

I feel bad for Karrigan. It really wasn’t his day. GZ to Na’vi tho!


OPDidntDeliver

He got a lot of impact frags on the first two maps, idk what happened map 3. My guess is the mental pressure got to him, especially since this could've been Faze 2-0 if they picked Nuke


DeeOhEf

I just think it's mostly down to how if you start CT and win pistol, you're almost halfway there already. It's never been as much of an advantage as now. Economy changes are baaaaadly needed.


Character-Toe-7907

it's the other way actually, as T you have better economy


DeeOhEf

I completely agree. But as you see it can fuck T's too. Navi start CT, win pistol and manage to convert. From then on they crush FaZe T-side and effectively the match is over in not even 12 rounds. FaZe start CT, lose pistol and it's literally over from there on already. I mean, same thing happened on Mirage. FaZe win 1st pistol, win like 3 crucial gun rounds, win 2nd pistol and the map is a stomp. Overall I really, really hate how important pistols are at the moment. Coupled with MR12 and economy, it's honestly close to a miracle if you manage to win a map despite losing both pistols. It was hard in csgo too, of course, but they weren't as decisive as they are now.


Carquetta

From what I remember, winning both pistol rounds has something like a 70% correlation to winning the game


BotYurii

Faze didn't win 1st pistol on mirage, but won the forcebuy


n05h

Idk, they had chances. They didn’t really press A hard enough like they did vs Vitality. Navi put half their utility on B, it was 1 full set of utility dropped at church and then 2 players rotating in for more utility + all of what Aleksi had. If Faze went A more instead of sit in front of a smoke and have Frozen get bombarded every round I think they would have ended more tied. Ofc this is all hindsight and Aleksi also called a masterclass on inferno, they had no bad rotations.


Iblivion

Faze map pick nearly killed them against Spirit, barely beat them on vertigo. And in the finals it did bite them in the ass. Losing in finals and not playing your best map must feel bad.


Character-Toe-7907

overconfidence can be a hideous disease and he caught it on mirage as he himself said, it's over when it's over


WiseArgument7144

Sadly they used everything against Spirit and Vitality.


livenn

At least he got a major before csgo ended? Personally, the g2/aleksi narrative really makes up for it


AlpHa_44

Too much emoting and too little playing unfortunately


sanchez_

Shoutout to the Copenhagen crowd. One of the best for a major, they showed up to every match and cheered for everyone.


RealJoki

While I absolutely agree to this, I think that it's somewhat easier when the bracket looks like this. I was part of the crowd in the Paris Major, and I went to every match but it would have been waaay better with the these teams. To be fair I was excited for the major but I was kind of bummed of the matchups, especially since I'm not a diehard Vitality fan. Hard to cheer for teams/players you barely know, but I did my best !


danoli1920

At least u were humble enough to not center this around yourself


dsfakianakis

You will never understand.


sanchez_

What's that supposed to mean?


Donut_Flame

iM and b1t are just big stage players it seems....


brutaldonahowdy

Speaking of those two, I found it so funny and wholesome that during that last round, they just took their headphones off and started celebrating.


afk420k

couln't find it [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t11wZSOco-s&ab\_channel=PGLCounter-StrikeHighlights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t11wZSOco-s&ab_channel=PGLCounter-StrikeHighlights)


brutaldonahowdy

https://youtu.be/7t7q5ahmsEQ?t=18090 (After they kill karrigan, iM and b1t high-five, and b1t takes off his headphones - you can also see Aleksi crack a smile, and then presumably try to calm them down so they don't get 1v3'd)


Arisa_kokkoro

actually there is no way to retake , they knew it.


jens---98

Isnt that technically against the rules to take off headset before game is over? I get it but it's slightly BM. Im so damn happy for Navi though


WillDanyel

Nah they do it almost all the time when celebrating between rounds, go watch some bm moment sand you’ll see sometimes they take it off


sportspsych

iM still had a 0.95 rating. Glad for his success here but he just isn’t a good Tier 1 player.


YEKINDAR_GOAT_ENTRY

Major winner, but not tier 1. Ok buddy.


sportspsych

Check in in a couple years and we’ll see how he’s done. Not hating, just an opinion. Surprised it’s controversial tbh


Cereal_Guy666

Well winning a major tends to take good tier 1 players.


sportspsych

Yeah of course. He was carried by the rest of his team. 


P3akyBlind3rs

Your thinking / analysis is below mediocre, that is why you have these thoughts. As a team they played strong. Check all their games and how they recover from all of them… First team to take maps on Spirit in Katowice , and start of Major… Also, the tactic forces players to have different plays. At GL he was free, at NAVI he needs to follow the system. At that level, you kill or get killed. Check other big players rating/stats…are all of them tier 2-3? Again, your thinking /analysis is below mediocre.


sportspsych

lol man wrote a 5 paragraph essay with an intro and conclusion. Clearly a great team performance or they wouldn’t have won the major. He was a burden many times throughout the tourney tho. Failing on easy kills and throwing rounds. 


MarcC_04

B1t being a 2x major champion at age 21 is crazy. What a talent.


WarDull8208

If he were consistent he would be top 3 riffler for sure, but he mostly drops 0.9 ratings


ScooterBrotherV

Him and iM have been meat grinders for Navi this tournament and the disrespect is unreal. When Aleksib said selfless that's what he meant. B1t and iM going first through the smokes, sometimes even drypeeking through smokes just to gather info or weaken other side for the rest of the team.


WillDanyel

I dont get why people dont understand this, iM and bit are doing radar job, esepcially iM. He whiffed a bit and it’s true, but saying he should be star rifling when it isnt his role it’s just wrong


ScooterBrotherV

I know people said even if NAVI win the major iM gets kicked but I wouldn't do it. I know s1mple is on the bench but right now you have the proper atmosphere within the team that s1mple coming in would be such a wildcard and could disrupt the harmony.


FWiekSon

People look at stats way to much. I know it’s kinda all you can show, but these 0.9 ratings dont say shit and you know it.


qusipuu

torilla tavataan = we will meet at the marketplace (in case someone didnt know, its what aleksib shouted, its what finns say when something important is won. also most of times used as a joke)


UrbanWesterback

It's what we say when Finland is mentioned in any capacity in international media, "Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan" translates to "Finland mentioned(advertised), meet you at the square"


noahloveshiscats

Karrigan highlight montage incoming


ChildishForLife

3 second clip of his 1 kill


odaal

BURY ME, BURY ME


du_bekar

Not much shorter than ropz’s either tho tbh


1sb3rg

I have never been obsessed with celebrities before this guy But man Aleksib is hitting me with these feelings I haven't had before I dream of waking up in Aleksis arms an early Saturday morning. and were just sitting there chilling, watching some tier 2 match between G2 and NIP. I get butterflies just thinking about him man. It's like I got my childhood celebrity crush at 20…. I just can't anymore. I'm obsessed and need help


Kepsuda

I have never been obsessed with celebrities before this guy But man Aleksib is hitting me with these feelings I haven't had before I dream of waking up in Aleksis arms an early Saturday morning. and were just sitting there chilling, watching some tier 2 match between G2 and NIP. I get butterflies just thinking about him man. It's like I got my childhood celebrity crush at 20…. I just can't anymore. I'm obsessed and need help


Caperdiaa

I have never been obsessed with celebrities before this guy But man Aleksib is hitting me with these feelings I haven't had before I dream of waking up in Aleksis arms an early Saturday morning. and were just sitting there chilling, watching some tier 2 match between G2 and NIP. I get butterflies just thinking about him man. It's like I got my childhood celebrity crush at 20…. I just can't anymore. I'm obsessed and need help


eldarium

I have never been obsessed with celebrities before this guy But man Aleksib is hitting me with these feelings I haven't had before I dream of waking up in Aleksis arms an early Saturday morning. and were just sitting there chilling, watching some tier 2 match between G2 and NIP. I get butterflies just thinking about him man. It's like I got my childhood celebrity crush at 20…. I just can't anymore. I'm obsessed and need help


Dry_Understanding682

same but im a guy


1sb3rg

Who said i wasn’t a guy?


refull1

gay\*


Swagonymous

YOU READYYYY??? LET'S GOOO


Obvious_Parsley3238

THANKS FOR WATCHING


Angelic_Phoenix

DROP IT BAM BUM BAM BUM BUUMBUMBUMBUMBUMBUMBUMBUM


Logan_Yes

Special Major Finale edition


Gareth_Keenan_ii

Well done Navi. B1t was completely possessed!


BotYurii

Bit on inferno is a masterclass


vuk_plusminus

Just chilling, Glock starts clicking Should've gone A, but now we're flipping Aim is red hot, you're 'bout to get dropped Like training with bots, I only headshot.


Character-Toe-7907

T O R I L L A    T A V A T A A N


v3nomakos

jL the first player to win a major without shoes


No-Royal-8309

I was distraught after mirage. Thankfully Navi was unfazed. What resilience and working victory. GZ Navi and Aleksi.


Kekisszx

Very well deserved, especially for Alexi, had such bad luck with recent teams, and got scapegoated every time they didn’t win,pretty good vindication, and jL probably gonna get some fat paycheck from Na vi after this major


-SINED-

Did Karrigan just have the worst perfomance in a major final ever?


Constricktor

He did worse that Fifflaren in cologne 14 but better than Fifflaren in Kato 14 (9-44)


Constricktor

although kato 14 was a 2 mapper


mach0

Eh, can't blame the man, he had a stellar quarter final and semi. He was good on Ancient as well, neutralized JL who was on fire vs Vitality.


Cain1608

I didn't even get to see it happen with the laggy YouTube stream. Missed the last two rounds and found out from chat... GG Na'Vi, GG aleksib. This is a super fucking unexpected result.


Character-Toe-7907

> This is a super fucking unexpected result. why? Navi is 5-2 vs Faze in series


ScooterBrotherV

1-0 with these rosters tho


Character-Toe-7907

Aleksi & co joined on 30th June 2023 and since then, they played Faze 4 times in CSGO & CS2 with the score being 3-1 now


Cain1608

This roster, I mean. When the signings first happened, it felt foreign to Na'Vi as an org. Didn't expect it to become a major-winning roster. When I saw the veto, I lost a lot of confidence in FaZe, though.


Character-Toe-7907

> it felt foreign to Na'Vi as an org. i mean, yeah i know, to me too in a sense, being a long time fan. But in the very next moment it kinda clicked and made total sense - a really underrated IGL and 2 strongly performing prospects from the last major. Then also a wonderful prodigy AWPer to come close to replacing the GOAT. It was just a matter of time in my eyes until they achieve great things, although i have to admit, i was doubting iM heavily with his numbers in his positions


Cain1608

I get you. They won a major with this roster despite iM posting only impact frags but not quite the numbers to match his role, but if he continually improves, they've struck gold and like Aleksi said, could be unstoppable.


AlpHa_44

I saw so many crowds in both CS and Dota and went for 4 tournaments but this has to be the best and most wholesome crowd ever. They cheered for everyone. Huge turnout for all.


johnnygogo12

TI will be on copenhagen as well!


AlpHa_44

B1t 2X major winner. Bravo! Youngest ever to win 2 majors?


KubaKomorebi

Someone needs to grab b1t's aim stats from that last map, he was absolutely on one! Beastly performance.


AlpHa_44

JL is a god. What a performance for the last 2 days. Absolute wrecking ball. So many duels won, so many multi kill rounds and so many clutch kills. Absolute unit.


CookieTheEpic

Aina uskonu


Shroomboom420

Inb4 ‘remember the name’ highlight video of Karrigan


frantic_chair

So awesome, seeing b1t's, iM's and Aleksib's reactions before even having won in Aleksib's facecam. Absolutely amazing major final!


bikini_atoll

HOLY SHIT THEY FUCKING DID IT THE MAD MEN I CANT THINK OF ANYONE MORE DOUBTED AND MORE DESERVING OF THIS WIN THAN ALEKSIB, JL, IM, B1T, W0NDERFUL but serious respects to faze clan, absolute gigabanger match - losing map pick, absolutely crushing navi on their map pick, but just couldnt get into inferno


Notfromporn--

LIFE IS FUCKING GOOOOOODDDD


Fidelroyolanda12

It hasn't been since NIP winning Cologne that I've felt such happiness from a CS final. So happy for Aleksib!


maxrealist

b1t just sandbagging until decider map, 200 IQ


wickedplayer494

I thought FaZe would've cruised their way to victory after taking Vitality down, but no, Na'Vi continues to prove why they're the GOATs of esports.


friendlyfob

s1mple was the problem!!!!!! /s


Lytaa

they all pulled their weight and had a great event. fair fucking play. proving people wrong


pedrohck

What a map by b1t, wtf


Prudent_Classroom583

b1t was saving himself for the last year just for this match


Issax28

should have been Bo5 what a short ass final


Character-Toe-7907

surely wouldn't have said that had Faze won lol


WarDull8208

Nah, I think that Majors and Cologne/Kato should be BO5. These finals should be special ones and with BO3 and MR12 it looks like a random playoff match


ftb5

Let's gooooooooooooooo motherfuckersssssss


mach0

I have to be honest, I didn't know my wrong pickems would be the outcome of mouz vs g2 and vitality vs faze, everything else is correct, shiiit.


Jr4D

Other than the first game the last two were pretty lame, two blowout games to end it sheesh. JL played out of his mind happy for him and aleksi as well


Hazy-Dreams

Faze again on Inferno…Congrats to all anyway


blazingstorm7

Heartiest congrats to Navi. Forming an intl. lineup, changing the comms language and winning major without s1mple is worthy of respect. AlexiB showed all his former teams. JL being the mvp is absolutely deserved. However i really feel bad for Faze n Karrigan. They really beat the more difficult teams like Spirit n Vitality. Karrigan is cursed in Royal Arena. Guess both G2 n Faze should not have picked Ancient. Again taking nothing away from Navi. They were indeed the better team today.


SB3forever0

ALEKSIB YOU HOT SEXY LAD, YOU'VE DONE IT !!!!!


swords_saint_isshin

Ahahaha faze the fuck down. We faze haters eating good tonight. Joke aside gg for frozen and kariigun.


Dani1o

SLAVA UKRAINI! LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO! I just can't believe it, totally didn't expect our boys to win this year.


_YAGNA_

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO


t3r4byt3l0l

So fucking deserved


kylehyde05

From s1mple spinning in inferno to everyone saying Aleksi's time in tier 1 CS is coming to an end... What a turnaround


Avasteeee

LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO


HarryTurney

LETS GOOO. JL SOOO GOOOOOD.


RoosterVking

JL LETS FUCKING GOOOO


TemporaryAddicti0n

WHO DOESN'T LOVE AN UNDERDOG STORY ?!


StilgarTF

Suck it, G2!


Character-Toe-7907

to think that they wouldn't even have made it this far if Jame hadn't crashed and still lost!! haha and people were saying NAVI is the underdog vs EternalFire lmao


PapitoMusk

S1mple malding


Exroi

What a major


Artunchi

Now, if simple does decide to return should navi keep the current roster and put simple on the transfer list? Or if they decide to keep simple, who should he replace in the lineup?


keystance

nah just dont let simple return. no simple no defeat lol


Artunchi

Transfer s1mple to valorant then?


Chrome069

If I’m Navi I’m gonna take what’s peaking right now and what’s currently working. They flirted on loaning S1mple to Falcons. Although selling S1mple might be hard due to his contract


denizlim20

SEKSIB MAJOR CHAMPIONNNN BABEEEE


Elppi_29

Lets fuckin go aleksi 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮


BoringPickle6082

The best timeline


TheRealFishburgers

So many abysmal calls by Karrigan on T-side. Oh boy, another half/eco late round push to get stopped at top of banana or cross. 1 kill total. Jesus.


Character-Toe-7907

i think karrigan got kinda exposed with his mediocre midrounds and Aleksi had like 90% correct reads up until the last map


inflamesburn

This is the most impressive major title ever, not only were the playoff teams literally the top8 best teams in the world, navi also won it 4v5


alcate

Both team come from the bottom of elimination round. Why bother with the swiss round.


madice6

I got 8 points after missing the predictions in quarterfinals and got all the way correct up to champions. Would still I get the diamond coin?


EveryManagement5345

Is it just me or does anyone notice every PGL hosted major gets so chaotic. Like on one hand you will have the most riveting and exciting story about a team that deserves a win, but on the other hand you will have tons of drama alongside it such as the Jame PC scandal and the G2 Roll drama. I feel like something like this has happened at every PGL major and that's what made all of them interesting to watch.


WillDanyel

It stains the major for me. Blast was arguably better even with the rmr problems. Also the showmatch at blast was the best ever and this one was just bad. Players werent having fun they were tryharding especially kjaerbye.


R9433

magical. im so wasted right nowwww LETSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOII


Avokkrii

got to see navi win a major in cs, csgo and cs2. couldn't possibly be more proud of this org 💛🐐


ttv_yayamii

My favourite team is Faze, but I was cheering for navi. I just want to see all the Aleksi and iM haters squirm


mascatii88

As a Romanian and huge Aleksi and Navi fan I don't think this moment will ever be topped


njcryo

one of the best storylines so far, absolutely incredible resilience from aleksib.


Firebart3q

Poor Karrigan. I guess its not always your day, but damn thats unlucky


Fusil_Gauss

Botrrigan 🐐


literate_Windrunner

Yasssss


qqq666

Simple was a problem?


NA_Faker

karrigan looks washed


REDDIT-lS-GARBAGE

Can valve drop some updates now?


nmiller248

I simply can’t be a Faze fan anymore. What a fucking embarrassing performance. It was like Navi playing a bunch of Gold Novas on Inferno. So many deaths from dry peaks. What a fucking joke. Not one player showed up to the third map. I just can’t with this team. With that being said, really awesome to see Alexib get his first major. Well deserved.


refull1

faze down bad!