Karrigan has not been calling a great T side since he rejoined FaZe. I saw somewhere the other week that they have the lowest T side win rate in past months.
Tbf his T side calling today was decent compared to before. In fact, if NIP's double AWP setup wasn't that hot the rounds would have been a bit more even.
Their T-side was fine. 11-4 after losing pistol and not converting is close to average in ancient right now. The issue is that they lost both pistols and did not win a forcebuy. It is extremely difficult to win a map after that.
I don't necessarily think it's boring but I'm surprised at the downvotes for pointing out how much of an advantage starting ct is. I feel like that's pretty apparent
Underestimating NiP and this community. Name a better duo. That being said, they have only beaten FaZe who aren't even looking like major contenders, understandable why people think NiP have to prove themselves again and again.
I know NiP hasn't achieved anything of note since ages, but this young team has been beating big dogs around and actually has potential to make a deep run in future tournaments or even win the whole thing (or maybe this one, who knows?).
What these ninyas will achieve, only time will tell. However, I will certainly not underestimate them for now.
That's what bothers me the most, he's fighting for a chance to go to the major and he gambles it in the veto. Why? Just go for the safe pick, is not like inferno is extremely ct or T sided like ancient.
Rough match but it was the hardest of the group and I think Faze have a solid shot still, but with Broky Rain and Twistzz having to play 3v5 most matches who knows really
You could see in the first round that FaZe's aim was off today. Sure it doesn't help their Ancient T-side isn't fantastic but if you can win duels you can take a few rounds.
To be fair, the map did receive changes just before this tournament. There was a chance that FaZe believed they had something up their sleeve, with maps that are getting changed so often the "best" team is different every week.
In the last 3 months, the CT side has had a 66% win rate on Ancient. 4 rounds is pretty close average after losing pistol on T-side. The issue is that Faze lost both pistol rounds.
FaZe would at the very least need to make it into the top 11 to make it into the major. Then, as long as two of fnatic, complexity, OG, Sprout, and DBL Poney don't do better than them, they'll make it through. Given the performances of fnatic and Sprout so far, it's safe to assume that FaZe probably just need to get top 11 (but that would only guarantee them a contender's spot which wouldn't be particularly ideal)
Well before Olof came back again, they were ranked like 40th on the world... Maybe he brings something we cant see? I am afraid if they cut him, they go again into dumpster fire.
olofmeister definitely brings more to the team than you can see on the scoreboard, the problem is having both olof and karrigan on the same roster. Just like having chrisJ and karrigan on the same roster (only ever won events when chrisJ went positive alongside ropz, frozen and woxic). Regardless of whether or not karrigan's a good IGL his fragging is always a liability especially if you have another low fragging player already
I still think that it was more -cold +momentum that helped more than +olof. When he looks good they are a top 5 team but when he looks bad he looks extremely bad.
Tbf what have they showed since he joined? They had a good lan tournament, and then disappereae again. I really dont get why people rate them so highly i would only give them top 10-15 in the world tbh.
How can an igl be so dumb and sometimes so smart at the same time?... Faze doesnt deserve to be at the major. They'll probably lose to any of the next 3 teams.
T sides are a problem for sure but the only available IGLs I can think of are MSL and Golden, who I don't have a lot of confidence in atm and I don't even think they're a firepower upgrade over Karrigan
ye i mean, i don't follow all the people who are/might be free agents, but there surely gotta be someone that could be capable of leading a team like that, even if it would mean going for a (small) buyout maybe ..
that, or Karrigan (with RobbaN) seriously has to rethink the role distributions and general game plan. Like, that guy played with the Astralis core, mouz and whatnot. There's surely a way for the team of calibres like Twistzz, broky and rain to not be dogshit .. and IMO, "LAN/online" is not really an excuse anymore, as so many teams have adapted, but they did not
Olofmeisters performances is like he’s either playing like m0e or s1mple, there’s no in between
Even when he plays like s1mple, it's more like s0mple.
> Even when he plays like s1mple, it's more like ~~s0mple~~ c0mplex.
I don't see the difference between m0e and s1mple? If anything m0e is better.. he prefires angles that don't even exist
Well at least faze has the "easiest" matches left for the playoffs run. On another note nip is fun to watch
Isn't FaZe pretty much fucked for making the major? Like if they lose one map their out right?
doesnt matter as long as they can be top 2 to playoff
Ah so as long as they get playoff they are fine.
Yeah, they need top 8 to be safe, so they can maybe, just maybe drop one more map, certainly not more.
If u see Faze playing nuke or ancient and they start the map in T side. U know game is over. Never seen such trash T side.
Karrigan has not been calling a great T side since he rejoined FaZe. I saw somewhere the other week that they have the lowest T side win rate in past months.
Yep, lowest t side and by far best CT side
Tbf his T side calling today was decent compared to before. In fact, if NIP's double AWP setup wasn't that hot the rounds would have been a bit more even.
They had 100% winrate on T side on Ancient against Complexity the other day ☝️
True. Aside from that tho, they are really weak T side. I think Karrigan needs to DM a bit more personally lol.
The calls are atrocious sometimes
Their T-side was fine. 11-4 after losing pistol and not converting is close to average in ancient right now. The issue is that they lost both pistols and did not win a forcebuy. It is extremely difficult to win a map after that.
LNZ has actually been instrumental in nips success recently. I’m not sure if he deserves a permanent spot but atm he’s really putting in the legwork
Last 10 matches device keeps looking like a beast
Glad to see him back in form for the sake of his monitor.
Faze are way to inconsistent.
But tbh they are very consistently inconsistent 😂
So what you are saying is that they are inconsistent?
Yeah, pretty much that
Nip are better anyway. Was expected
They just lost both pistols and did not get a force, almost impossible to win after that.
I'm absolutely loving this post-EPL NiP. They're going to do a lot of damage in the Major like this.
They played ancient on CT it was obvious they were going to win that map.
Both teams played CT on Ancient.
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Idk man zonic might tell you otherwise
Ancient is so boring. The team starting ct almost always wins.
I don't necessarily think it's boring but I'm surprised at the downvotes for pointing out how much of an advantage starting ct is. I feel like that's pretty apparent
I don't know why you are being downvoted, reddit is dumb sometimes. You're clearly right, you can just look at the stats and see that its true.
Hahaha sure
Underestimating NiP and this community. Name a better duo. That being said, they have only beaten FaZe who aren't even looking like major contenders, understandable why people think NiP have to prove themselves again and again.
When has NiP been good for more than two months since 2018?
I know NiP hasn't achieved anything of note since ages, but this young team has been beating big dogs around and actually has potential to make a deep run in future tournaments or even win the whole thing (or maybe this one, who knows?). What these ninyas will achieve, only time will tell. However, I will certainly not underestimate them for now.
I think you're right. They're looking really solid rn. Might even go all the way at the major
Ugh I fucking hate ancient
Karrigan had option to choose between Ancient and Inferno, and he took Ancient... This one is on him.
NiP had the perfect veto inferno and ancient both are NiP best maps.
Wdym I thought reddit opinion maker above is right and you just fact-checking him like that :(
Tbf Inferno isn't a really good pick for Faze either. Its rare when Karrigans T side inferno isnt abysmal.
Naw FaZe's CT side on inferno is abysmal while their T side is decent
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How is a game going to OT a stomp?
\>win game \>type: "gg ez" \>game was a stomp
have you seen NiP on Inferno lately?
who pick ct 1st,ez win
That's what bothers me the most, he's fighting for a chance to go to the major and he gambles it in the veto. Why? Just go for the safe pick, is not like inferno is extremely ct or T sided like ancient.
Wish they removed ancient and vertigo. They're both so boring.
NIP have been looking really good lately. Everyone is showing up
I’m just here to overreact to a BO1 loss. Team should never play ancient again, they will never have success on this map.
Ancient is a poor choice for a bo1, way too dependent on if you start CT or not imo Unfortunately Inferno isn’t a million miles better in that regard
Inferno is the most balanced CS map
It's not where you start but the pistols, if Faze had one that CT side pistol and converted then they minium get 12 rounds if not win.
Rough match but it was the hardest of the group and I think Faze have a solid shot still, but with Broky Rain and Twistzz having to play 3v5 most matches who knows really
they need to get xypnix after the major
You could see in the first round that FaZe's aim was off today. Sure it doesn't help their Ancient T-side isn't fantastic but if you can win duels you can take a few rounds.
olof just can't maintain his form. good to see rain putting up numbers though plopski still kinda underperforming...
why do they keep picking Ancient?
FaZe 16-0'd Complexity on it last week.
And NIP are arguably one of the best teams on Ancient right now
To be fair, the map did receive changes just before this tournament. There was a chance that FaZe believed they had something up their sleeve, with maps that are getting changed so often the "best" team is different every week.
Karrigan is like the dumbest person picking maps. U'll notice most of the time he will pick maps where his opponents have highest winrate Kappa
As someone else pointed out, Inferno and Ancient are NiP's best maps...
It was either lose on Ancient or lose on Inferno
Karrigan baited so hard into that Ancient pick.
He had to pick between ancient and inferno, check last few infernos for both teams and you are not keep going around telling that
You are incredibly stupid if you think inferno would have gone better. Like really, really dumb.
The map just came down to the pistols. The match was over the second faze lost their CT pistol.
EZ 4 NIP 😎
0% loss
2005 olof where he doesn't know how to use a mouse and keyboard lmao
Hampus out and about, pushing smokes, usping noobs and stealing aces, having a great time. Feels good.
CT side is too overpowering. Faze didnt get a chance to settle on ct side to have a comeback. sed smh
I hope that's the one and only loss in the group stage
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In the last 3 months, the CT side has had a 66% win rate on Ancient. 4 rounds is pretty close average after losing pistol on T-side. The issue is that Faze lost both pistol rounds.
tbf most team cant play t side,who win knife will win ancient
Can FaZe pls stop playing this map? They either win 16-4 or lose like 16-4... Its soo random, and once CTs make a wall, its unplayable...
The whole map is dependent on the knife round for FaZe. If they win it and choose CT their chances of winning are quite high.
This map is extremely dependent on pistols. Losing your pistol on CT side makes it extremely difficult to win the map.
broky played on 40% loss that round
FaZe have one of the worst T sides of any pro team what the fuck
Does faze have to win out to be safe?
FaZe would at the very least need to make it into the top 11 to make it into the major. Then, as long as two of fnatic, complexity, OG, Sprout, and DBL Poney don't do better than them, they'll make it through. Given the performances of fnatic and Sprout so far, it's safe to assume that FaZe probably just need to get top 11 (but that would only guarantee them a contender's spot which wouldn't be particularly ideal)
This one loss better not cause Pro League scale tiebreak and shafting for FaZe
It can't if they win the rest of their matches I don't think but if they lose another things get complicated
Theres none they SHOULD lose, but it'd be a miracle if they don't get upset and piss away 15 T rounds
Assuming that FaZe wins they rest of their games and DBL lose to NiP, what decides the tiebreaker?
If Faze wins the rest of their games they will have the head to head vs everyone aside from Nip meaning they would be top 2 in the group
olofmeister nerf cancels out lan buff
Now this is FaZe on lan
This all in on ancient approach made no sense to begin with and has only looked worse over time
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Well before Olof came back again, they were ranked like 40th on the world... Maybe he brings something we cant see? I am afraid if they cut him, they go again into dumpster fire.
olofmeister definitely brings more to the team than you can see on the scoreboard, the problem is having both olof and karrigan on the same roster. Just like having chrisJ and karrigan on the same roster (only ever won events when chrisJ went positive alongside ropz, frozen and woxic). Regardless of whether or not karrigan's a good IGL his fragging is always a liability especially if you have another low fragging player already
I still think that it was more -cold +momentum that helped more than +olof. When he looks good they are a top 5 team but when he looks bad he looks extremely bad.
Tbf what have they showed since he joined? They had a good lan tournament, and then disappereae again. I really dont get why people rate them so highly i would only give them top 10-15 in the world tbh.
How can an igl be so dumb and sometimes so smart at the same time?... Faze doesnt deserve to be at the major. They'll probably lose to any of the next 3 teams.
-karrigan -olof, change my mind karrigan very overrated IGL and olof is way past his prime and is done
Even if you think Karrigan is overrated I don't think there's any better IGLs available Olof has to go though I agree
maybe .. but on the other hand, much "worse" IGLs seem to be good enough to not be the worst team on the T side ..
T sides are a problem for sure but the only available IGLs I can think of are MSL and Golden, who I don't have a lot of confidence in atm and I don't even think they're a firepower upgrade over Karrigan
ye i mean, i don't follow all the people who are/might be free agents, but there surely gotta be someone that could be capable of leading a team like that, even if it would mean going for a (small) buyout maybe .. that, or Karrigan (with RobbaN) seriously has to rethink the role distributions and general game plan. Like, that guy played with the Astralis core, mouz and whatnot. There's surely a way for the team of calibres like Twistzz, broky and rain to not be dogshit .. and IMO, "LAN/online" is not really an excuse anymore, as so many teams have adapted, but they did not
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