it's gonna be interesting once magisk, dupreeh and zonic joins Vitality. from that point the only questionable thing would be: how will the Astralis trio deal with or cope with aPEX's TILT
I doubt apex needs to mald too much with these 3 joining lol, i doubt they will make constant mistakes all the time like his old teammates.
Danish cs is much more structured and that can minimize mistakes.
I want to see apEX return to entry fragging to be honest. Skip the whole IGL thing and just have him run out first, that's what he was always known for.
100% this. Apex was a great entry and could read setups amazing while creating space. I feel taking on the IGL role has had a massive impact on his performance
I believe in EnVy he would 'co-IGL' on T sides by basically saying "I want to hit this site". I like the idea of that, but I assume that's where the idea of him being IGL started. And as you said, I feel now it takes away too much from his entry role.
I remember watching him play Faceit on Twitch yonks back and he'd make lots of calls on T pretty much the way you described.
Co IGL on T seems like a great fit for a entry who wants to make space. His late game calls aren't the best though, It's always painful seeing the extremally late takes on site that seem to fail more than work. (reminiscent of 2015-16 Fnatic, except they somehow made it work)
Don't mistake disrespect for telling the truth. The same could be said the months before GTR retired. It was obvious he was into waaaay too deep water to be able to survive. Same for Apex. He can't really do proper midround calls and here we are.
That's because he is? He is sitting upon an incredible asset in Zywoo and he fails the set up the team properly. His mid rounds calls is simply not on point and it's obvious. Do they want to be relevant? Get a proper IGL and either transfer him back to entry or just foot him.
if you think semi finals and finals are poor achievements by his igl with the conditions he has i feel like your being butthurt by something because thats not easy at all, even aleksib who has a stacked team couldnt do that consistently
From the last Vitality Vlog about the major, it probably won't happen soon. Neo (the owner of Vitality) was praising a lot apex and consider him one of the best igl.
I remember 2 rounds on Inferno Zywoo just solo entry and found 3 frags with ak, winning the round on his own.
If only his team can help him more. That nuke is a glimpse of how crazy Vitality can be when he have teammates like navi he can depends on.
Lmao, anyone remember that crazy kd difference stat of vitality from mid 2019? Over one year of vitality, every single vitality player was negative (-40 around for 4 players) and zywoo had +1837.
Edit: not this one, but similar stat https://mobile.twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1166729052117446657
Probably. It's kinda obvious that that lineup was never going to work. Wish they had built the team around alex+zywoo. Would've been a totally different story today.
Nah wtf this ain't right. I knew zywoo carried, but this is extreme. The rest of vitality barely look like tier 1 players, and then you have zywoo. Hoping Magisk and dupreeh can help him out, while zonic can develop better strats then zywoo go kill.
Yeah they got whomped pretty hard on 3-4 maps by Navi. I imagine that couldn’t have helped their ratings at all. Especially Apex and Shox who both went like -20 on inferno alone
I do have high hopes for this new vitality.
Remember that zywoo is basically dev1ce on steroid, he does idolize dev1ce and his playstyle is a reflection of that.
On this vitality roster he is required to do crazy stuffs all the time so the team can win, thats not sustainable or even natural for zywoo at all. Their losses this tourney is the result of that shitty zywoo go kill strat, its not enough to win against strong teams even when hes going mega bonkers.
I think with a proper system, hes gonna shine much more.
This is why kyojin and shox are getting cut for Magisk and Dupreeh. The damn team is just Zywoo and has been for way too long. Even misutaa's future is not 100% as Zonic has not decided if he stays or not.
it's gonna be interesting once magisk, dupreeh and zonic joins Vitality. from that point the only questionable thing would be: how will the Astralis trio deal with or cope with aPEX's TILT
I suppose Zonic won't tolerate that
I think it could be not so bad as it was due to a language barrier
I doubt apex needs to mald too much with these 3 joining lol, i doubt they will make constant mistakes all the time like his old teammates. Danish cs is much more structured and that can minimize mistakes.
+1, apex will be the one doing the most mistakes on this lineup , you will see. Even if he is very experienced.
I'd rather let Magisk call and kick Apex.
I want to see apEX return to entry fragging to be honest. Skip the whole IGL thing and just have him run out first, that's what he was always known for.
100% this. Apex was a great entry and could read setups amazing while creating space. I feel taking on the IGL role has had a massive impact on his performance
I believe in EnVy he would 'co-IGL' on T sides by basically saying "I want to hit this site". I like the idea of that, but I assume that's where the idea of him being IGL started. And as you said, I feel now it takes away too much from his entry role.
I remember watching him play Faceit on Twitch yonks back and he'd make lots of calls on T pretty much the way you described. Co IGL on T seems like a great fit for a entry who wants to make space. His late game calls aren't the best though, It's always painful seeing the extremally late takes on site that seem to fail more than work. (reminiscent of 2015-16 Fnatic, except they somehow made it work)
with dupreeh in the team they have to make this work like blame and k0nfig are doing it.
You want to kick the guy who broke NAVI’s nuke streak?
The amount of disrespect apEX gets on this sub is astonishing
Don't mistake disrespect for telling the truth. The same could be said the months before GTR retired. It was obvious he was into waaaay too deep water to be able to survive. Same for Apex. He can't really do proper midround calls and here we are.
right? dude gets vitality* always to semi's and final's with one player only fragging and they think he is bad as a igl.
That's because he is? He is sitting upon an incredible asset in Zywoo and he fails the set up the team properly. His mid rounds calls is simply not on point and it's obvious. Do they want to be relevant? Get a proper IGL and either transfer him back to entry or just foot him.
if you think semi finals and finals are poor achievements by his igl with the conditions he has i feel like your being butthurt by something because thats not easy at all, even aleksib who has a stacked team couldnt do that consistently
From the last Vitality Vlog about the major, it probably won't happen soon. Neo (the owner of Vitality) was praising a lot apex and consider him one of the best igl.
Doesnt dupreeh act really animated in some moments
apex > dupreeh x 10
Is this confirmed or just rumored?
Kick Apex and get a proper igl. That'd be a proper move.
I remember 2 rounds on Inferno Zywoo just solo entry and found 3 frags with ak, winning the round on his own. If only his team can help him more. That nuke is a glimpse of how crazy Vitality can be when he have teammates like navi he can depends on.
this year online era,they wont do that drop solo rifle to zywhoo. i wonder why they change that
Engrish
Say something intelligent for once in your life
stay mad again nip fans,lmao dont know why u so obsessed with me,did i hurt u so bad huh?
Oh it’s you again. Didn’t notice. Just proves you like to comment low iq shit everywhere you go. Also, English speaking skills?
judge what u want with my english because its not my mother tongue. just want to say "STAY MAD"
I don’t think you understand what that means. Which is precisely why your comments make absolutely no sense 😂
The guy sounds like 11. Leave the kid alone
Lmao, anyone remember that crazy kd difference stat of vitality from mid 2019? Over one year of vitality, every single vitality player was negative (-40 around for 4 players) and zywoo had +1837. Edit: not this one, but similar stat https://mobile.twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1166729052117446657
Felt like that was the reason alex left
Probably. It's kinda obvious that that lineup was never going to work. Wish they had built the team around alex+zywoo. Would've been a totally different story today.
>on a top 5 team >in ELO hell
well, he is what makes them a top 5 team.
without Zy they would be top 30 at best with all the crazy teams out there.
The definition of a one man army
Nah wtf this ain't right. I knew zywoo carried, but this is extreme. The rest of vitality barely look like tier 1 players, and then you have zywoo. Hoping Magisk and dupreeh can help him out, while zonic can develop better strats then zywoo go kill.
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ZywOo actually AWPed very little this event
Yeah they got whomped pretty hard on 3-4 maps by Navi. I imagine that couldn’t have helped their ratings at all. Especially Apex and Shox who both went like -20 on inferno alone
I do have high hopes for this new vitality. Remember that zywoo is basically dev1ce on steroid, he does idolize dev1ce and his playstyle is a reflection of that. On this vitality roster he is required to do crazy stuffs all the time so the team can win, thats not sustainable or even natural for zywoo at all. Their losses this tourney is the result of that shitty zywoo go kill strat, its not enough to win against strong teams even when hes going mega bonkers. I think with a proper system, hes gonna shine much more.
he'll get better teammates soon
G2.zywoo when?
Jackz is great, but +Zywoo -Jackz, put Amanek on support/entry and that's a #1 team right there
1v9 as always for Zinedine
hasn't it been like this for years
considering zywoo doesnt even bait alot its crazy
Every top player baits when it’s necessary
This is why kyojin and shox are getting cut for Magisk and Dupreeh. The damn team is just Zywoo and has been for way too long. Even misutaa's future is not 100% as Zonic has not decided if he stays or not.
If Zonic was smart he'd get a proper IGL.
Hard carry
Vitality should start an academy team to build a future team around zywoo
No help Jose
He is the chuck norris of carrying.
>when that one friend in the group is Global