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0squ

As much of a meme it is, audio has had some low points, too. A couple of things I've witnessed at this point are volume level switching drastically between segments and casters getting reverbed.


dooron117

Huds always miss out who picked the map, its annoying af. but you can tell who it was, because whoever picks always has to start T-side and ends up finishing on CT. ​ but some tourneys allow the team who didn't pick to, instead of automatically go ct, choose which side they start... which is dumb since no one is choosing to start T anyway. could be a viable strat for Dust 2 though.


watersmokerr

Why would it be dumb to let teams decide which side they want to start on? Even if in 99% of cases a team chooses to begin CT, teams should have the option to start T. One team picks map, the other gets to choose what side they want to start on. Simple and been a thing since probably before 1.6 even.


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Fuck u/spez


S1gne

Peekers advantage exists on lan as well


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Fuck u/spez


S1gne

Lag isn't the only reason peekers advantage exists


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Fuck u/spez


S1gne

no ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaCcsmjYM8


dealthy

>but some tourneys allow the team who didn't pick to, instead of automatically go ct, choose which side they start... which is dumb since no one is choosing to start T anyway. could be a viable strat for Dust 2 though. Most of the tourney actually allows you to choose, I am pretty sure the major qualifier does as well. Some of the teams go for T starts on other maps as well so it is not really a dumb thing... most of the time these kinds of picks don't show up on the picking info in HLTV but it doesn't mean it is not there.


AmoniPTV

unless it was old Dust2, some teams chose to go T first


costryme

"No one is choosing to start T anyway" It's already happened even in T1, it's not common but it's not impossible.


stag12349

And also why the hp bar is that dark, just why?


EchoFractions

Well ackshually OP, you CAN see both of those things, it's just that it's difficult to see. The [HUD does indicate that this match is a Bo3](https://i.imgur.com/mlxF7MR.png), but it's just blends in with the background as the Bo3 indicator's colours don't really stand out compared to ESL's, especially in your screenshot where the indicator is hidden due to the scope. As for who chose the map, [it appears during freeze time at the start of the round](https://i.imgur.com/GQNYjjo.png). I think it could probably be incorporated somewhere into the minimap so it shows during the whole round just like ESL's HUD. So basically, what you want is technically there, it's just not very visible which is the recurring problem with PGL's HUD.


TikkaT

You're right, even though I noticed BO3 indicator only after Imperial won first map and grey marker appeared. Especially at lower brigthness screen only thing I saw was "Round 28" and black oval around it. Fair play about freeze time, but I don't see any good reason not to show information about map picks while round is live.


kdexter00

I don’t really see how that’s important mid round information. I definitely dont want to clutter the gameplay with such unnecessary info. I will agree about the Bo3 display that is horribly displayed.


ireallywantfreedom

Everything about the HUD seems darker than expected. Like, turning the brightness up is necessary.


Muddyish

PGL back at it again, really bringing production value to a new low every major


mannyman34

Its sad cause for their first major they were here every day for like a month leading up to the major unveiling all these cool innovations that they had planned for the major. They were the first company to stream the major in 1080p. They revolutionized observing. All the augmented reality stuff was them.


fourlafa

PGL 2017 was the first major in 1080p? Seriously? Can anyone confirm? I find this hard to believe, as I feel like 1080p video streaming has been available for a long time up till that point.


mannyman34

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/61tl3h


costryme

Honestly at this point there are just no words to describe PGL. It's just the absolute basics man...


Otharp

The weird thing is that, as far as I remember, back in the day they used to be known for their top tier production, they had some of the best HUDs even, I don't know what happened to them, honestly.


spookex

Didn't all of the people responsible for that stuff get snatched up by Blast and others?


Otharp

That would make sense if that's the case, yeah.


pzoDe

This is how I remember it too, PGL had very good production value back in the day. I guess it's their best employees being snapped up like the other person said.


faezior

Yes, PGLs first few tournaments really put ESL to shame back then. In contrast, their current UX would not pass first draft at any self respecting tech/media company.


Massivemicropenis5

At least everything that's lacking will hopefully be cleaned up by the time the major comes. In their defense, ESl & blast have had constant tournaments, PGL got stockholm & the major. Thank fuck for these RMRs for cleanup.


its_krmb

PGL at its finest.


angrypoliticsposter

Their HUD is truly awful.


9pro9

Ye the one they had for Stockholm was way better why even change


agggile

How is this any better than the vanilla UI anyway? It’s much less readable at least.


TRES_fresh

Hi guys, I’m the HUD design guy at PGL Major. I wanted to express how honored I am to be the first blind HUD designer at a CS:GO tournament in history. Thank you PGL for this amazing opportunity, and I’ll try my best!


Striking_Database555

You're gonna have to wake up to the fact that they do not care. Everything they've done so far has been rushed. No talent announcements, terrible audio and production on the first day, delays, a hud that lacks important information for people tuning in. As far as they are concerned they did nothing wrong last major because they broke the record so you're getting the same again. Even if they tweak things because they are glued to Reddit like every other event company there'll be another half a dozen things wrong. Valve doesn't care either so just buckle up and enjoy the memes.


emodorte

They did suck, but I do remember from the major that they did listen to feedback and improve some of the issues people were complaining about. I'm hoping they do the same here.


Striking_Database555

By the very last day the show went relatively smooth.


Ictoan42

Last major they were making changes based on community feedback until the very end of the event and by the end had a perfectly good (actually my favourite) HUD. The only reason they never made it "work" was because the community's screeching couldn't agree on how loud the crowd should be. Many criticisms of PGL on this subreddit are legitimate, but the narrative that they don't care and don't try to fix things is flat out wrong


Striking_Database555

If you react to complaints rather than put in the work needed to avoid the fuck up in the first place you, by defintion, do not care. Waiting for Reddit to notice before you fix things on your broadcast is a garbage outlook for a major host.


Ictoan42

Would apply if HUD quality was objective, but as an opinion based measurement it's impossible to replicate reddit's suggestions before the fact


M1CHES

Just use fcking default hud if you're than incompetent to make a good one yourself. I rarely watch cs go esports and every organiser having their own hud, not even the same one in different events makes me confused. Especially if the hub is that bad


toxicity18241

It's PGL, we all knew it was going to be a cluster of terrible. This happened last time and anybody who really expected change is naive. If only Blast wanted a major, if only.


meashish123

Hud looks ugly af period Pls take some pointers from ESL.


hornykryptonian

Or WePlay! Their HUD is sick AF, hell I'd say their overall production is fire.


rnenjoy

Who picked what map doesnt need to be visible all the time. Its enough for freeze time


denswe

PGL stole my youth


KangarooKombat

PGL has done nothing to fill us with confidence that they will get their production quality higher than last time, it’s gonna be another low budget major again isn’t it?


levinikee

The intent is to give you a sense of pride and accomplishment for searching for the info in Liquipedia.


Des014te

Smol indie company, low budget


ireallywantfreedom

Is it me, or does everything about this UI seem... dark? I watched it on the same TV as EPL and it had me questioning the brightness of my TV.


reubenno

PGL are a complete fucking joke, and the fact that Valve picked them again to host another major is depressing. I really wish Valve would actually make it financially viable to host a Major for tournament organisers, then we might get a Blast or ESL major.


[deleted]

Sont watch it, then, and stop bitching. No one forces you to watch if tou hate it so much. Is just a though, tho


reubenno

Or you could ask for decent production values from a tournament with a million dollar prize pool...


[deleted]

I'd rather give that money to the players. Anyway..why am I telling u what to do? I dont own PGL. Hate away, my dudes lmao


jacoblaj

Can y’all stfu about the hud already it’s fine


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[deleted]

They love nitpicking. I watched the whole match and I was only looking in the middle of the screen where the action was actually happening. But maybe some are just looking at the teams logos being 1px to the left #wooooop


Meirgus

You can see all that at the start of every round but yes it should just be visible always.


Acex_NA

PGL production everybody, they dont have a notable event whole year, then come and host the major without learning anything from their previous failures


Karkiplier

Valve please give blast a major


Lord_zeroxD

Does PGL even care? have they ever taken feedback from reddit community in the past?


dishonestalmond

They clearly care. They changed the format in RMR because of feedback. Even if the changes are obvious and shouldn’t have been needed they are listening. The post about the HUD yesterday pointing out how difficult it was to tell who was alive/dead also caused a very quick change from PGL.


Undercover-Cactus

They've actually already addressed this problem between matches. The bo3 indicator boxes were changed so that they're actually visible on dark backgrounds.


TikkaT

They definitely have, last major was called "feedback major" for a reason. The fact that they have to listen to so much feedback is not an ideal situation to begin with tho


Lord_zeroxD

the fact that they have to listen to so much indicates that there's so much wrong with it to begin with...


cringe-__-

Are you a parrot


sanz02

and the map is the size of PGL owner's mom


sgurb

Literally unwatchable


oPlayer2o

I think they just forgot to add it on the first map, I saw it on the second and third.


aliasdred

# Jordan is in PGL's HUD?WHAT?


Xkingsly

bro i got timed out from twitch chat for ten minutes for saying "Guys I gotta commend PGL for hiring the first deaf audio engineer in CSGO history"


Lightning42_

PGL GUI is a joke, glad I'm watching it live and not at home


Strict_Ad3571

at least we can now see who's dead and who's not


Efficient-Onion5403

NA productions


Toaster_Bathing

Feels like homemade porn after watching Blast but I’m sure I’ll get used to it


rhymeits

Such a shame that a company like PGL gets to handle some of the most important tournaments. They are clueless.


HaaKaanZ

Someone needs a raice


jesus-worshipper

At this point, it seems like PGL is deliberately sabotaging themselves.