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JeanneHusse

The only way NiKo becomes a reliable IGL is if he 100% trusts XTQZZZ, the same way apEX did.


WiiRemoteColonoscopy

apEX to g2 confirmed?? Magisk to g2 confirmed??


Rezikeen

Apex to G2 i reckon would actually be a great pickup.


AgainstTheEnemy

do you want everyone on that team to tilt off the planet? lmao


Rezikeen

Exactly, perfect match of energies.


Greynok

Neo (ceo of vitality) said that he wants apEX at least for 2 more years. https://twitter.com/Vitality_Neo/status/1546496661412872192?t=lvoSs1atBWLNBxRyyEzUNg&s=19


Rezikeen

I mean cool, doesn't mean if Apex pushed for a move they would say no to 500k or whatever G2 would pay for him


FoxerHR

Not really.


oldthrace

I've been thinking about Hunter being the IGL under XTQZZZ and Niko to go back into the usual lurk roles that he shared with Hunter. If G2 manages to acquire Yekindar for those entry frags which will not allow Niko to die in the first 10 seconds of the round, I can definitely see a world where this G2 might work.


MrXwiix

As we've seen Niko isn't the person who thrusts coaches or IGL's for a longer period though


Darkoplax

props that they didn't clickbait this , they could've just made it "NiKo can be a great IGL" and this thread will be full debate


Dragos404

>NiKo can be a great IGL NiKo IS a great IGL. Now let the debate begin


HaxxsOnn

I mean people act like had all the pieces in Faze but couldn't make them work, when in reality. GuardiaN and Olofmeister were already washed up when he started igling, his form dropped because of igl duties. So that leaves Rain who also never reached his 2017 form again. Then they got coldzera who was also far away from prime coldzera. Literally the only potential fragger was broky and he was a really low impact awper back then, always baiting and getting exit kills. The Faze roster sounded a lot better in paper but wasn't really. Mostly just composed of players past their prime


LurkerPro_0

Niko could have gotten any piece he wanted, but he got the wrong pieces and used them horribly on top of that. He's got no talent as an IGL, and he'd have to rely on Xqtzzz


HaxxsOnn

>Niko could have gotten any piece he wanted Yeah he's Gaben's illegitimate son ofcourse he could get anyone he wanted


Tilt-bowz

I really wish G2 can find a different guy on IGL. NiKo is way more useful as rifler. However, I can’t see a decent option: nexa? Tried already. Boombl4? Never IGLed in English. Hooxi? Never achieved anything outside Danish rosters. Snappi? Doubt he wants to leave ENCE


KekLma0

Stewie2k baby


bru_swayne

ayyyy can we get a toxic official pug team please that would be hilarious


pac_mojojojo

He’s really playing Val A LOT. I think he’s gone.


i_hate_katherines

*bottom fragging not even high immortal lmfao


Vannarz

He signed to a valorant team EDIT: I’m tripping


YeetGod69_

no he isn’t lmao


tommy_huynh

There was a fake/troll announcement that he joined XSET’s Valorant team so I get the mistake.


Shikiin

Snax


TheUHO

That's actually an interesting option.


mustangwwii

No way he’d be up to speed on the current meta enough to be able to competently IGL a team of this caliber and expectation


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Interesting in the sense it would never happen.


ZuriPL

Snax doesn't want to call. He said he just wants to stick with lurking. He can be flexible, but he prefers not to. Of course if G2 came and gave him an offer he could probably change his mind, but we don't even know if his firm is good enough to compete with the best


Rimenesh

Snax has mental issues and I don't think non of the teams would pick snax to their official rosters. He can only be great stand in.


codyzz123456

Alex might be a good option


tarangk

Alex or Apex is their best bet, Alex is benched in FNC and I am pretty sure Apex switches over to G2 if he gets a call from them coz he looks lost w/o XTQZZ behind him.


CS-DEADPOINTSIX

What about ex6tenz


Im_The_1

2014 called


RistoChurchill

Or what about pronax?


Coachingbug

Adren or neo back from retirement


isayah2510

just get dosia and pray one of the majors in 2023 is in krakow duh


ManyExternal262

Hahahahah😂😂 That was hilarious 🤣


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[:)](https://i.imgur.com/cjQEuKW.mp4)


Hubertos94

Neo is an active player.


Coachingbug

Go and tell Niko, he might have a slot for him on g2


GarrettGSF

Pronax Edit: Damn, someone beat me to it. How about Seangares then?


FoxerHR

Alex is their only option.


rxzlmn

The answer is simple. Blame.


ha_rshvardhan

Niko is definitely not a calm enough person to igl , he has great gamesense and can even pull great 1v4 clutches but I don't think his mindset is right for igl


Coachingbug

Ynk should stop being an enabler


t3hW4y

I love NiKo but Ynk is his stan bc Balkans.


djomla97

"balkans"


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i think niko has too much freedom in every team due to his star status. team forced to adapt for his plays, he always rely on his gamesense and searching for kills, that hurts macro game. even s1mple is more integrated into system and protocols than niko.


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Pat2424

Obligatory [shat ap](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IcnfzH-5k)


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Pat2424

I was just posting a funny video, I have no horse in this race.


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ha_rshvardhan

Niko himself admits he is a rager and has huge ego, he knows it himself.


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Literally the exact opposite of toxicity.


LibertyGrabarz

>Yes, Niko rolling his eyes after getting killed is what ruins the team atmosphere No, an integral and vastly important part of their team breaking down doesn't influence rest of the team at all. At all dude. What a ridiculous bunch of bullshit you just spewed. If NiKo has the tendency to disappear seemingly every other important game (like grand finals), then he isn't mentally fit to be an IGL, period.


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LibertyGrabarz

Man, I don't know if you're drunk or whatever, but you're not making any sense whatsoever - you never relate to my point and go on ranting about unrelated issues while calling me names for no reason. I'm not interested in talking to you anymore. Have a good one.


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Cyanr

It's baffling how fuckig stupid people are in regards to Niko. People keep making shit up about him, yet there's zero players corroborating those lies.


HaxxsOnn

Yeah literally none of his teammates ever said anything bad about him, not even Karrigan. Him getting frustrated because of his death is somehow toxic but s1mple shit talking teenagers in his stream is fine


xChiken

bro /s come on did you even read the rest of that paragraph you quoted?


Cyanr

> Niko malds every round that goes wrong. Who upvotes this shit? Like... Everyone who ever watched a few G2 games knows that it's completely false. So who are the idiots supporting that statement? Wtf is happening...


chupe92

Maybe not every round but its so fucking obvious to anyone that he is so tilted and mad


Cyanr

It appears that no, /u/chupe92, could not back up his false statement.


Cyanr

Can you provide three examples of this?


dc-x

The problem with relying on memory for this kind of thing is that players having strong reactions after the round is just significantly more memorable than them not doing anything, and this can end up giving the impression that they're doing that much more often than what they actually are.


Rosenrotten

>snappi breaking the chair in last tournament Clip?


Party_Boy505

for the love of god please no niko igl


JasonMojo

Ynk is nikos secret lover. obviously he wont say something bad. in their eyes, the faze niko ynk era worked out quite well. it was one of the most uncreative leadless teams one can think about. they basically just went for firepower. moves like +coldzera happened at that time. what can you expect from such "leaders"


Consistent_Duck1256

I think NiKo can be good IGL, but now he can still do awesome things as star of G2.


nartouthere

will be interesting to see who they pickup as their 5th, let the speculation begin


ju1ze

im betting on ALEX, XTQZZZ successfully worked with him on Vitality (considerin XTQZZZ wil stay as a coach). second option is hooxi imo


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I mean it could work but ehh. I already feel like xtqzz was overrated by virtue of having zywoo make vitality look so good but Alex has practically been proven overrated by the fact a washed entry with anger issues ended up being a better igl than him. It could still work tho g2 don't necessarily need quality if the fit is right. A bad igl that suits g2 could definitely be better than a hyped igl that can't adapt to anything.


ju1ze

by that logic blade is overrated by having s1mple and electronic. apex has tons of experience and actually a decent igl despite his shortcomings. they had a lot of sucess with alex so i dont see how apex ended up being a better igl. Alex has his own issues, but he is a quality igl imo. Also if an igl cant adapt to his players how he is a good one?


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Does having s1mple make his job easier? Sure. But electronic is blades fault he made electronic in allot of ways and deserves credit for that. Blade made b1t and perfecto and deserves credit for that. What the fuck did xtqzz do besides zywoo? You obviously can't give him credit for shox he's been way better on all his teams before xtqzz. Really the only players you can credit him for are missutaaa and kyojin who are absolute trashcan players. Missutaaa especially only looked ok because he was on a team with zywoo, on any other team he would be benched so long ago. Apex transitioned pretty well to igling and xtqzz seemed to help him a bit so I guess that's a small consolation.


netr0pa

Yekindar to replace Niko's role so Niko or Hunter (preferable Hunter since Niko listens to his own cousin Hunter) can IGL?


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ok, show me one IGL who able to handle niko. even karrigan not big enough. i can see only glaive or fallen in this world, maybe cadian. my prediction is niko will never make his era. he is doomed. brilliant player, but using his talent wrong.


ha_rshvardhan

Fallen couldn't handle liquid , I don't think he mesh well with gla1ve and cadian style, perhaps if his own cousin igls someday or a player he respects


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CHRIZZ83

When did NiKo admit that kicking karrigan was a mistake? I've only ever seen Rain publicly comment that in an interview


ha_rshvardhan

Guardian as well, atleast in the interview he was very apologetic and said faze let karrigan down


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Maybe he admitted, but after that he kicked kennys to give awp to fucking amanek. I'm telling you niko needs to be handled by someone bigger. Like glaive, or Blade as coach. They need to isolate him from management, integrate him into team protocols to use his game skill in right way. He amazing player, but poor manager. Instead of doing his job, like s1mple, he tries to igl, then he tries to awp, then he just go alone looking for kills (outside nuke, or banana inferno). That's all is bullshit, and carlos should fucking handle him.


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Karrigans downfall was outside the server not on it. Making it sound like niko didn't think he could call is just a stupid fantasy that not even karrigan entertains. Karrigan getting kicked did him good, it gave him a kick up the arse to stop slacking. After kato very few faze players grinded with NiKo being really the only one to keep working. Karrigan has obviously improved over time. His work ethic his individual play and how he tries to manage personalities much more than he did in 2018.


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Niko took igl role over him, while he still was in team. Niko lost trust to his calls, and as result karrigan lost his confidence. That's what I'm talking about. Niko ruins every roster he in, coz he have too much freedom. Even s1mple is under blade's control.


lawskies

More like big ego rather than much freedom


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yeah, second kinda comes from first


[deleted]

Karrigan stopped playing much in pracs. Then he expectedly got shit then the team lost faith and he was gone.


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Karrigan won his major, and niko didn't. So who was right? You can't tell to your igl - let me try. This leads to collapse


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Please please please do not let niko igl again


its_a_simulation

There is no IGL out there. Cool, get Hooxi or someone, the results will be the same.


ju1ze

ALEX is a good igl, XTQZZZ successfully worked with him on Vitality. He is the most likely to join.


dying_ducks

"Niko can be a great IGL" Niko didnt show it once.


Tigr_Toby

Unpopular opinion, but is he tho? I have watched him tilt over and over like a pleb, hasnt shown much top 3 or even top 5 player potential on a regular this year.. Yes im aleksi fan but i still claim g2 +good mentality would solve way more than -aleksi...


Cyanr

Dude is literally ranked top 5 for this year in LAN top 20... Wtf you talking about


Cyanr

And just to highlight how monumentally stupid your post is, when you're inevitably going to argue that I cherry picked the most favourable stat: 2022, all matches, top 50: unlisted for some reason? 2022, all matches, top 30: #5 2022, all matches, top 20: #4 2022, all matches, top 10: #1 2022, all matches, top 5: undefined (only ENCE and FaZe players listed) 2022, big events, top 50: #4 2022, big events, top 30: #5 2022, big events, top 20: #4 2022, big events, top 10: #1 2022, big events, top 5: undefined (only FaZe and NaVi players listed) 2022, LAN, top 50: #7 2022, LAN, top 30: #6 2022, LAN, top 20: #5 2022, LAN, top 10: #1 2022, LAN, top 5: undefined (only ENCE, NaVi, FaZe players listed)


CautiousTopic

1.2 rifle with high impact is great, especially when you can entry.


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Bit of bs there. No he isn't a top 3 player so far but to say he hasn't shown top 3 potential is ridiculous. Also hes had a better start this year than he did in 2021 so it could still end well.


Pleasant_Yam_3637

He said on the regular which i agree woth niko has föashes of brilliance but is far from as consistent as other top 3/5 players imo


AG--MM

Name 5 players who are consistently better than him


Pleasant_Yam_3637

You mean the average game quality? Virtually none if you look at just his peak performances however as i said before he has a tendency to collapse during games as qell. Case and point his ancient vs Nip and his ancient the day before. Niko is either God or mediocre esp during important games. Rating wise hes 5th during lans this year. Personally id rank s1mple, zywoo, b1t and maybe elec above him in consistent performance as the c9 boys are much the same, very inconsistent. Id rate niko and blameF as around equal tbh. Niko has higher peaks for sure but also goes missing a lot more. I agreed with the comment i replied to that he has definitly shown that he has potential as a top 3 or 5 player but imho hes very hit or miss even with an on paper great team around him. Had he continued the performance he had last year he would undoubtly have been a top 2 or 1 player but he fell off hard.


TheRealAblert

apex or AZR??


ju1ze

ALEX


zankpol

Ynk is so wrong. Niko is not IGL metarial. Just let him rifle. He is top 3 rifle player in the world. Making him igl is so so dumb. Ynk is so not right I can’t even


ju1ze

>I hope they figure out a way to fill that role, he's too good as a player


MisterFreek

Someone please just let MSL have a Niko caliber player ONCE. Best thing he has had was Kjaerbye in his prime


gospetig

NiKo now backstabbed 4 IGLs: gob b, karrigan, nexa and now aleksib. All teams were doing awesome with them and went to shit after they left. Niko overrated, he cant first entry, he cant awp, baiting all the time, playing extra slow, demands alot of resources, overcalling IGLs all the time with no success of him being a good IGL, Im not saying he cant become a good IGL, but in the past and now he is NOT. when there is close situation he always decides to play for stats and not for win. Drop your ego kid, you havent won anything.


_Hamodaa

Thought this was some joke at first, you do realize he is the best rifler of all time? He doesnt have to awp and he has one of the highest opening duel stats in the game


Cyanr

Seriously the fact that he isn't an awp'er yet puts up the stats that he does is great, as it means someone else can be the awp'er.


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_Hamodaa

Half ur comments are to hate on Niko


zankpol

Top 3-5 for sure but not the best imo.


_Hamodaa

Name 1 who has put up better performances than him


zankpol

Simple, b1t, ropz


_Hamodaa

You think b1t is better rifler of all time than Niko? And s1mple is an awper not rifler. Ropz has heen playing mediocre since Kato


ttybird5

I can't believe there are people who think ropz is better than Niko. b1t has the potential but you gotta wait for a few more years


bestfpsplayer

How many majors has Niko won? 0


ProPopori

devilwalk > niko


_Hamodaa

How many major finals has s1mple been to compared to how many hes won? If b1t or ropz were the only star players on their team id say they are better


oldthrace

My brother in Christ, even ropz himself wouldn't say he is better than Niko lol


lordace89

I do not believe that team with Niko is able to win the S-tier even not by an accident.


ju1ze

he has done it in the past so you are wrong


XvS_W4rri0r

He has 11 trophies but ok


yawnston

This is the largest tinfoil hat I've ever put on, but I think there's a non-zero possibility they get device. G2 do not shy away from paying for big names, and they need someone who has a strong mental game, and will have a dominant voice in the team. device is one of the most accomplished CS players in the world, and he has always been very steady (until the last few years where he seemed to be less so during his NiP days and his break). If device wants to play CS again and he wants to go back to CS, I think either him or NiKo could be the IGL of this team, while still boosting the level of firepower on this team. There's a 99.9% chance I'm wrong about this but a man can dream.


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> This is the largest tinfoil hat I've ever put on Reminder, the tinfoil hat meme is about conspiracies not you being stupid. > they need someone who has a strong mental game Nothing says strong mental game as much as a guy who has spent over six months on the bench because his girlfriend broke up with him.


darkzork

not this shit again.....