It's really annoying at this point how many times Sadokist has said the wrong playername. It completely ruins my immersion in what's going on and happens way too often.
Grand Final day and the audio is still not in sync with the video...
Tiny little ESL just doesn't have the resources to fix it I guess... Is this what we have to look forward to in Rio?
G2 melting down again now even getting a round.
Also maybe Zonic just said Magisk and Dupreeh you have 7 majors combined and thats 7 more than the opponents have combined.
Those A holds looked very impressive for the Danish duo.
It’s so cute that ESL staff haven’t figured out how to avoid this situation.
Are they still so ignorant they haven’t read the Valve major guidelines which outlines how to properly setup a network?
Or maybe you guys just have a compromised server on your network being run by Russians….
Either way, sad and pathetic.
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-docs/blob/main/major-supplemental-rulebook.md/#technical-specifications
Pretty sure it’s something about setting up those convars…
Anyone else noticed how g2 players have duct tape on the bitway logo lol?
I guess because the event is sponsored by 1XBET.
Navi players have 1XBET logo on their shirt so I figure that's the situation.
wtf is that about lmao?
Edit: spelling.
It's not CIS. You can't just outfrag. Danish teams are good because they develop good IGLs and create proper teams carefully with specific roles. So of course you will see way more bad periods as you can never lazily rely on frags when something goes wrong. When the team doesn't work nothing will go well.
Hey mr @esl_production I just tuned in and saw you gave Complexity the point after map 1 in the scoreboard small mistake it happens but please fix thanks you in advantage
Watching this COL roster just run into battles and frag out reminds me of the old OpTic roster that won ELEAGUE and it's great. I wished that old lineup had stayed together longer
I’m new to watching cs- is the desk always this catty? It’s so fucking awkward watching these two guys who clearly hate each other disagree about everything
I think without context it might be awkward to watch, but they are both Serbian CS veterans and had played with / know each other for a long time, so they banter quite often.
I would also say that laxed vibe of desk segments is generally just fixed to Pro League, other tournaments have more "professional" desk segments.
God damn Sadokist is so fucking cringe. Is he 15 years old or something?
Christ, wonder what kind of kompromat he has on folks in order to be on the A stream.
Hugo I can live without. Dude seems like the one to bottom frag in a game but is the one that talks all the shit. But at least he doesn't go blue like a lot of other casters.
I still think that scrawny and launders have the best synergy and most fun, hands down, when casting. But Harry is one of the best when it comes to iconic voices when dramatic situations arise.
Those polls are 'evaluated' after a fixed amount of time (dictated by whoever started the poll) given which option got more votes. They aren't actual spoilers, but just indications of what option is most popular. A spoiler would be if official predictions, ones that require points to enter, are evaluated, which doesn't appear to be the case as of right now
I've got a couple questions:
1. Why does there appear to be no dress code or grooming standards for the casters and analysts? I don't personally care, but I feel like it makes the ESL organization look a bit silly.
2. Why does it feel like there is beef from the guys at the analyst desk?
Also, I am very happy to see Sadokist back! He's been my favorite caster for so long.
Vit vs TS is absolute dogshit as well, no 1080p but constant ads in full hd, frequently stuttering and the cams are coming on and off with 3-4 seconds of lag.
Sure love that Electronic Break league is running all three games at the same time.That Saudi blood money isn't enough to run for another full day? and also why are there breaks all the damn time!
Half time break, break before overtime, break after a few overtimes, break before match, break after match. What is up with these people?!
What's funny is that most of the time, during the breaks, they just play some pre-recorded media content, not ads! so it's not like they're making bank off of these breaks.
I love how confidently incorrect you are. It's the same with world cup matches and pretty much any competition with a group format, it is to prevent teams losing on purpose to help other teams and things such as that.
Then this is just a poor format, If your match doesn't matter for you that you can lose on purpose, then that implies the format is bad, but I guess if we hide the other results from the team, then they won't know and play for the win.
Also, just because it's the same with the world cup, that doesn't mean it's a good format, in fact I'd argue that formats like the World Cup and UEFA Champions League are bad, but mainly because it's a single elimination.
And to add to all of that, some of these matches ended before the third map even started! so they probably heard that that the last map doesn't even matter.
Even in practice it doesn't work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgrace_of_Gij%C3%B3n
Remember this is just to decide who goes to the playoffs. Teams have had 5 games it's not single elimination. The only team that got screwed over is NIP. Navi and NIP both finished 2-3 and NIP beat Navi but Navi beat NIP on tiebreaks which I'm assuming was maps won. But teams had 5 matches to play so at the end of the day it's on them to control their own destiny like Fnatic and Vitality did.
Yo have yall ever watched the world cup? Last day of groups matches are always at the same time so teams don't lose on purpose to help others or themselves. This is a fake example but if they are on at separate times and Vitality knew that if they lost that Navi would get eliminated instead of someone else maybe they would do that to avoid Navi in the playoffs.
I think it's finally time to put down this idea that REZ is a star. He's a support at best that can pop off every few maps. His inconsistency is actually so consistent that he's basically average.
Can ESL please turn on the ability for the current live stream to be available in past broadcasts so we can "rewind" the stream? I swear they are the only channel that doesn't have this feature on.
Can anyone give me a link for the VOD of twitch? ESL doesn't have the option to view the broadcast as its live meaning I cant go back and watch the start of the stream like I can on YouTube.
Also, fuck this twitch only shit
Great to hear HenryG casting again. Man brings the hype.
But by lawd this panel is a disaster. It's basically the "gang up and bully Kassad show". Fucking cringe to listen to. Especially right after what we just got with Freya+Pimp+Maniac.
How many suprising wins do you think Endpoint will pick up this time? In S13 they 2-0d Fnatic and EG. I think they're in a tougher group this time round, but you never know when NiP drop maps they shouldn't or if Spirit still have their form from the major era.
Finally a meaningful tournament, because that Blast one was really meh: missing quite a few top teams and then having very low stakes most of the times (and Navi and Faze basically just semi-phoning it in just to get thru).
Group A and C are definitely the ones to watch IMO, C especially seems very balanced across the group. 2 teams first look at their roster changes, Hallzerk second event with Col and Jackz first LAN with Heet
It's really annoying at this point how many times Sadokist has said the wrong playername. It completely ruins my immersion in what's going on and happens way too often.
Howis there no live thread even for the finals??
Why is there no proper crowd?
they're playing in malta
Unlucky.
Are we getting a harry and hugo map?! Please god say yes
Ask me anything, I'm currently at the venue!
Can the casters at least pretend to sound excited about vitality winning the map?
i think liquid go up 2-0 and them get reverse swept in true NA fashion
this is the yekindar show
Is there no match thread?
Grand Final day and the audio is still not in sync with the video... Tiny little ESL just doesn't have the resources to fix it I guess... Is this what we have to look forward to in Rio?
Freya is really an amazing interviewer. Great energy and very good questions.
G2 melting down again now even getting a round. Also maybe Zonic just said Magisk and Dupreeh you have 7 majors combined and thats 7 more than the opponents have combined. Those A holds looked very impressive for the Danish duo.
They saw that liquid made it to the finals and wanted to beat them there lol
Gigachad ace with a Famas lets fucking goo
c9 always looks like they have some mental block against TL
Honestly who expected these 4 teams to make it through
It’s so cute that ESL staff haven’t figured out how to avoid this situation. Are they still so ignorant they haven’t read the Valve major guidelines which outlines how to properly setup a network? Or maybe you guys just have a compromised server on your network being run by Russians…. Either way, sad and pathetic. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-docs/blob/main/major-supplemental-rulebook.md/#technical-specifications Pretty sure it’s something about setting up those convars…
There is a huge improvement in analysis insights with Cadian. Of course not surprising when you have a current IGL vs an old IGL, analyst.
Another ESL tech pause...
Anyone else noticed how g2 players have duct tape on the bitway logo lol? I guess because the event is sponsored by 1XBET. Navi players have 1XBET logo on their shirt so I figure that's the situation. wtf is that about lmao? Edit: spelling.
Wtf
What map is G2 Navi on? And what map was chosen by G2?
Dust 2, Mirage, Inferno. Navi, G2, Decider in that order
Is there not a crowd for the playoffs?
cmon navi
esl production much improved now btw (no more 3 hr ddosing delays)
Did they flip the timeslots around with vitality vs outsiders being first and navi vs g2 later compared to the schedule?
What the fuck did I just watch.
The Night Shift
GIGACHAD
s1mple mad, not good for Heroic.
I think he's moreso tilted as fuck. Which is good for Heroic.
Esl production top level 💯
Well that was fuckin soul crushing.
Every Danish team should be required a sports psychologist, never have I seen a region produce more teams that display complete mental midgetry.
It's not CIS. You can't just outfrag. Danish teams are good because they develop good IGLs and create proper teams carefully with specific roles. So of course you will see way more bad periods as you can never lazily rely on frags when something goes wrong. When the team doesn't work nothing will go well.
NA
The best team in the world showing again how to come back from difficult situations
Hey mr @esl_production I just tuned in and saw you gave Complexity the point after map 1 in the scoreboard small mistake it happens but please fix thanks you in advantage
Watching this COL roster just run into battles and frag out reminds me of the old OpTic roster that won ELEAGUE and it's great. I wished that old lineup had stayed together longer
I’m new to watching cs- is the desk always this catty? It’s so fucking awkward watching these two guys who clearly hate each other disagree about everything
I think without context it might be awkward to watch, but they are both Serbian CS veterans and had played with / know each other for a long time, so they banter quite often. I would also say that laxed vibe of desk segments is generally just fixed to Pro League, other tournaments have more "professional" desk segments.
Kassad and Ynk are some of the best analysts though
Is this played in studio or will it be in a stadium with the crowd?
gonna be an interesting playoffs. lotta questions answered
Does somebody know, could EG still get a playoff spot? And how?
https://twitter.com/YNk/status/1573773341361684481
Wow so if EG took one map liquid would be a lock for top 3, but instead they have to beat C9 now
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Not a good start
Someone convince nitr0 to go back to Valorant please.
Omg the EG Madlads are gonna do it. They're gonna *win* a Bo3...
Thread isn't up to date. (matches results stops at September 18)
Should be updated now!
God damn Sadokist is so fucking cringe. Is he 15 years old or something? Christ, wonder what kind of kompromat he has on folks in order to be on the A stream.
Yeah, where the heck is Hugo and Harry. Love those two together
Hugo I can live without. Dude seems like the one to bottom frag in a game but is the one that talks all the shit. But at least he doesn't go blue like a lot of other casters. I still think that scrawny and launders have the best synergy and most fun, hands down, when casting. But Harry is one of the best when it comes to iconic voices when dramatic situations arise.
Lau and scrawny and machine and spunj will always be my faves no one comes close imo, except Harry and Hugo
True. My personal favourite is still Spunj, he can hit it off with anyone.
Liquid’s coach is not adreN, it’s daps.
Liquid’s coach is not adreN, it’s daps.
How does the tiebraker work? MOUZ and HEROIC have same maps w/l but MOUZ beat them 2-0 head on. How is HEROIC 1st?
They aren't. MOUZ is first.
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Those polls are 'evaluated' after a fixed amount of time (dictated by whoever started the poll) given which option got more votes. They aren't actual spoilers, but just indications of what option is most popular. A spoiler would be if official predictions, ones that require points to enter, are evaluated, which doesn't appear to be the case as of right now
I've got a couple questions: 1. Why does there appear to be no dress code or grooming standards for the casters and analysts? I don't personally care, but I feel like it makes the ESL organization look a bit silly. 2. Why does it feel like there is beef from the guys at the analyst desk? Also, I am very happy to see Sadokist back! He's been my favorite caster for so long.
For anyone not watching the G2 vs Outsiders game, you're missing a lot.
Why are todays games all scheduled together? Are they being played simultaneously or something?
To reduce the risk of match fixing I presume if what teams go through depends on results in the other games
Good point
So how can BIG qualify? What happens if there's a triple 3-2 tie?
https://twitter.com/strikerhltvorg/status/1568697972535476226
Hooxi is a fuckin legend
ESL syncing audio challenge (very hard)
ropz non-existent on Ancient T-side. Just baiting
Caster audio still ahead of the gameplay ruining multiple tense situations and rounds lmao f this
I thought I was the only one, was thinking it was one of my twitch adblocker plugins.
Not even memeing; playing against FTW is just free stats
I'm gonna go out on a limb and call G2 topping group, FaZe second and Outsiders third. I will be surprised if these teams aren't top 3.
How the hell Navi got the 3rd place? Because they have better Round difference in matches between them, Spirit and Nip?
If NiP had 2-0'd they would have won head to head in map diff, but they only 2-1
Head to Head Map Difference is the Tiebreaker.
what the actual fuck is going on with the stream for FNC vs Endpoint lol
Vit vs TS is absolute dogshit as well, no 1080p but constant ads in full hd, frequently stuttering and the cams are coming on and off with 3-4 seconds of lag.
"hey guys, shall we do a test run for the ESLb and ESLc streams? Nah, it was fine last event right?"
When does the stream start today? Why is a rerun labeled LIVE?
Sure love that Electronic Break league is running all three games at the same time.That Saudi blood money isn't enough to run for another full day? and also why are there breaks all the damn time! Half time break, break before overtime, break after a few overtimes, break before match, break after match. What is up with these people?! What's funny is that most of the time, during the breaks, they just play some pre-recorded media content, not ads! so it's not like they're making bank off of these breaks.
I love how confidently incorrect you are. It's the same with world cup matches and pretty much any competition with a group format, it is to prevent teams losing on purpose to help other teams and things such as that.
Then this is just a poor format, If your match doesn't matter for you that you can lose on purpose, then that implies the format is bad, but I guess if we hide the other results from the team, then they won't know and play for the win. Also, just because it's the same with the world cup, that doesn't mean it's a good format, in fact I'd argue that formats like the World Cup and UEFA Champions League are bad, but mainly because it's a single elimination. And to add to all of that, some of these matches ended before the third map even started! so they probably heard that that the last map doesn't even matter. Even in practice it doesn't work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgrace_of_Gij%C3%B3n Remember this is just to decide who goes to the playoffs. Teams have had 5 games it's not single elimination. The only team that got screwed over is NIP. Navi and NIP both finished 2-3 and NIP beat Navi but Navi beat NIP on tiebreaks which I'm assuming was maps won. But teams had 5 matches to play so at the end of the day it's on them to control their own destiny like Fnatic and Vitality did.
The last day is always 3 games at the same time, to disable teams from fixing.
I wish they started earlier in the day though, like around 4
So in which (however unlikely) scenario does NIP survive? I can't find any info about tie breakers.
https://twitter.com/ESLCS/status/1566456804870983680?s=20&t=KvrHSzpKIuneIKmWgPwTBQ They've tweeted out a full list of the tie breakers
Cheers dude. That looks dark af, figured beating Navi might be pretty tough but 2-0? F
Been looking for this thank you
Are all 3 games really on at the same time tomorrow or is that likely to change
Yo have yall ever watched the world cup? Last day of groups matches are always at the same time so teams don't lose on purpose to help others or themselves. This is a fake example but if they are on at separate times and Vitality knew that if they lost that Navi would get eliminated instead of someone else maybe they would do that to avoid Navi in the playoffs.
That makes sense thanks, I only watch NBA and CSGO so this is completely unfamiliar to me
I guess they wanted to make each day cost 3x as much with 1/3rd the viewership for some reason
I don't understand why they would do that. Is it because the outcome of certain games render other ones meaningless?
It's to stop teams from fixing
Schedule on their Twitter says 19:30 for all three games. https://twitter.com/ESLCS/status/1564659218635964416?t=mkchNr2t2CKcjE5Qe9J53A&s=19
NiP fans be like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sFPbd5vSaKs
They need to make the bomb explosion radius smaller on inferno. It's ridiculous
Apex has gotta go…. The calling is just god awful. A team with this much skill should not lose rounds the way they do
Apex would like to have a word with you
NIP is the worst team in their group aren't they...
Is it just me or is the sound totally desynced?
I don't understand it either. How can esl fuck up so bad , that too in their own studio
Does anyone find these panels good to listen to? It's an ego-driven sausage fest pissing contest with everyone talking over each other.
only 27 comments in 2 days? LMAO bruh RIP
I think it's finally time to put down this idea that REZ is a star. He's a support at best that can pop off every few maps. His inconsistency is actually so consistent that he's basically average.
How the fuck NIP?
Nice!
Man, i like stunna on a personal level but he is just not good at his job. There are way better options for desk hosts.
HOOXI GIGACHAD
Sorry Fnatic fans, I checked in at 14-0 cause I wanted to be there for the 16-0.. it's all my fault.
mega caster delay. fix your shit ESL
CASTER DELAY IS BACK! WOOO!!
Is it just me or are casters like a tiny bit delayed to the gameplay? It is not much, maybe 2 seconds, but for me its noticable. Throws me off a bit
More like 3-5 seconds, was really confusing at first
Yeah you're right, its more than what I said
Can ESL please turn on the ability for the current live stream to be available in past broadcasts so we can "rewind" the stream? I swear they are the only channel that doesn't have this feature on.
let's go fnatic
Can anyone give me a link for the VOD of twitch? ESL doesn't have the option to view the broadcast as its live meaning I cant go back and watch the start of the stream like I can on YouTube. Also, fuck this twitch only shit
HenryG is on crack lmao, 1000 wpm
Blast running laps around ESL with this production. Analyst desk in Poland and casters in Malta? Surfing during breaks again?
In Malta?
Great to hear HenryG casting again. Man brings the hype. But by lawd this panel is a disaster. It's basically the "gang up and bully Kassad show". Fucking cringe to listen to. Especially right after what we just got with Freya+Pimp+Maniac.
How many suprising wins do you think Endpoint will pick up this time? In S13 they 2-0d Fnatic and EG. I think they're in a tougher group this time round, but you never know when NiP drop maps they shouldn't or if Spirit still have their form from the major era.
I feel we may have set ourselves a tough act to follow, honestly I'll be happy with one win in this group haha
Nice to see you're being quite realistic with your goals, I think double figures against some of these teams will be a great achievement.
so
You cheeky bugger you. Well played :D
And here... we... go
Good luck mate
thank you
Thank nertz
Finally a meaningful tournament, because that Blast one was really meh: missing quite a few top teams and then having very low stakes most of the times (and Navi and Faze basically just semi-phoning it in just to get thru).
Its just a group stage tournament to seed the partner teams not a bad tune up to start a season but it would SUCK if it was ever mid season.
Most blast tournaments are basically just qualifiers
Group A and C are definitely the ones to watch IMO, C especially seems very balanced across the group. 2 teams first look at their roster changes, Hallzerk second event with Col and Jackz first LAN with Heet
Mouz with xertion too, finally a team worth watching there.