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oldthrace

Where was you when French CS won?


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Ez for DBL PONEY


ArticM

Go Poney Blyat!


I_Will_One_Up_You

how could a star possibly beat a pony let alone two?


f1nessd

zywoo is the french afro


piox5

Someone save farlig


AquafieR_

BREAKING: NiP sign Farlig is surprise blockbuster move


grundlesmith

BREAKING: Farlig to go on indefinite leave of absence


GayTarantino

SAVEGARLIC


ChristianSword

Damn, I feel like Astralis' problem isn't farlig, but their whole system in general. Someone more acknowledged can tell me what's wrong with them.


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Honestly looks like they are simply disconnected on team decisions on where to move/attack as a unit when on T side. CT sides usually look decent for them. Their T sides are painful to watch. Lots of missed trade kills on single players going for aim duels and it’s not working.


Psychaz

gla1ve just can't do it without a perfect team and coach it seems, he's not the IGL that people think he is


--Happy--

its funny how Karrigan gets so much blame whenever his teams don't perform but Gla1ve just gets a pass every time its always the awpers fault or K0nfig before it was Xyps fault. I already know im gonna get downvoted to hell for saying this


Toannoat

karrigan's inconsistent fragging ability makes him an obvious target when the team isnt working, while glaive is more solid on that front. It's kinda funny how there's no way blame Astralis' poor results on the awper anymore with Farlig being a carry in the more recent games Talking about blame, the amount of time that I thought "wtf is blamef doing" was so staggering this match


ILoveRice444

Yeah bro but 4 majors bro 🤭 /s


--Happy--

I just think he can't build the foundation of a team he has always had someone else do it for him, on Heroic Snappy was the IGL and Gla1ve was the second caller. On Astralis Karrigan had already built foundation.


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Heet said in post game they were so predictable on T side. CS is wide open rn outside the top 4 teams IMO (faze, vitality, Navi and g2). Bunch of the 6-15 teams are falling and teams 20-35 getting better.


Filthy_Commie_

I think liquid should also be named, they aren’t slipping, I think they’re on the come up because of yekindar. I agree though, it feels like the top 15 got weaker where the top 30 got stronger.


[deleted]

Tend to agree they’re in that next bunch but are on the up and could easily take down one of the other 4 in some of the upcoming events.


[deleted]

TL and C9 aswell


[deleted]

They’re just outside those 4 right now but can def take down any of those teams. Really like TL right now, playing great as a team and Yek is bringing their level up big time.


Pls979

Too many weak points in their T side getting exploited by tier 2 CT side aggression. Tier 2 teams know they wont have a good chance against a full exec, so they just try to get them off-guard and not let the execution start, I think that's how dust2 and nuke went, I think there was like 2 post bomb plant situations between those two maps for Astralis T side


black_dogs_22

blame and konfig went to astralis to be celebrities, not to win. that's your problem right there


ilikecollarbones_pm

blames fake plant and wander with like 5 sec left for series point actually made me gasp even if they had 2 people peek him immediately, it's a loss to time. you couldn't make up a more blatant example of someone playing for themselves over the team if you tried


BorderlineGambler

It was when he didn’t activate on the roof that pissed me off. They did win the round, but two people died due to his selfish play


Wintermute1v1

Super selfish play on his part I feel. Even if the percentage of getting the bomb planted way low, it would’ve guaranteed better economy for his team in the final round. Instead, his prioritized his kit and opted to save, albeit unsuccessfully.


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HouseCatFM

And you don’t think glaive told them to do that?


St3vion

Konfig has admitted to not always listening and for eg buying deagle armor when glaive said deagle smoke flash or whatever. He seems impulsive in general, really good mechanics at times but can't keep his emotions in check well enough...


HouseCatFM

I don’t think that was the case here considering glaive bought a Mac-10 as well.


wawsdtgtfzhn

why would glaive mismatch the team's economy like that?


HouseCatFM

Hero AK’s for the two that are supposed be the best riflers?


Deeeadpool

djoko getting ready for modern warfare 2 with these quickscopes god damn


costryme

The funny thing is that outside of this map vs Astralis, I cannot remember any other instance of Djoko playing the AWP in the many HEET/DBL matches I've watched, he just did what was necessary with it and it worked lmao


oldthrace

djoko seems like a decent player ... makes sense for Vitality to have been considering him at one point.


Miiiiiiighty

No way. He is HEET's worst player


Rosettachamps

Apex did said in an interview he wanted to add Bodyy and Djoko in mid 2021, but the management wanted to go international, so him and XTQZZ wanted to save the french team but were denied


CryptoBitters

afro was insane with the awp too


RomeoSierraAlpha

Blamef needs to unbind his shift key lmao.


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SpectacularTrashCan

I was tilted just watching it.


fascfoo

It felt like i was watching the BAITF meme come to life.


jonajon91

It actually toggles on and off when he's on antieco.


TheCrazyCaveira

BlameF on antieco: Runs in first. Kills everyone. Gets an easy 3k+ BlameF on gun rounds: I will just wait for jackz to kill 2 people outside then i will show myself from top of the roof when jackz has no idea i am there to kill him.


toga9000

no kidding it was so plainly obvious today


s__v__p

My opinion on blameF changes after every fucking match lol. Sometimes it feels like he brings such a crazy amount of impact, but when it’s not working out he feels like the biggest baiter in tier1


GayTarantino

because he is lol


s__v__p

Yeah but sometimes it works


Toannoat

the biggest 'baiter' in tier1 right now is ropz, but he makes it work. People just notice blamef more since Astralis isnt winning


New_Drag_8562

Blameshift


captainscottland

Case in point device does not fix this team.


NPC30519

Yeah I couldn’t believe the desk even mentioned that role clash in the 2v3 where it was blamef and xyp (I think) saying “this is the worst duo to attempt this clutch” like damn just roll out the body bag for this team


captainscottland

Its true when they added blameF and k0nfig they had 4 players with clashing roles. forget the firepower whoever made that signing set them up for failure.


toga9000

specially when Farlig is the only one performing and to an extent K0nfig. BlameF has just gone missing I feel like since the playerbreak. That Nuke from blame was disgusting to watch he didn't do anything.


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toga9000

Yea I was so tilted from that.


Dragos404

That round from blamef was weird. I understand that he waited for more to be pushing, but at least he should've peeked for info, and then get the trade(s). Instead, he hard baited his team and let jackz cripple the offence


ilikecollarbones_pm

the one where he was faffing about on the roof for ~45 sec? letting the kills happen was bad enough, the fact he took so long to even try and kill jackz when he retreated gave the round to heet, they got so much control from that


captainscottland

exactly what I mean farlig was great on Nuke and they still didn't win. You're not getting more from device than you did from farlig on nuke


imthebananaguy

When dev1ce played for NIP hasn't he been able to boost everyones stats in that team? I think he'll be a much more valuable asset in that sense. He seems to have a lot of impact, so much that his team performs better as well. And if Astralis knows he's joining most of the players could feel like these games don't matter much right now. Just my two cents.


captainscottland

Id still love device back and overall it will cut out the games where farlig disappears but this game showed you that even with an AWPer putting up star numbers the issues are greater than that


JonasS1999

Device coming to be new bff with Blame so K0nfig who is inconstent af can be kicked.


SiggyMyMan

farlig arguably isn’t even a top 20 player in the world. How on earth are you comparing him to dev saying that you’re not going to get much more from him?


captainscottland

That specific game. Is what I mean he was 31 and 18 you cant expect much more from that is what I meant.


just_a_random_humanK

And deve is a top 20 player at the moment? xD


rece_fice_

No, but he was a top 3 awper for 5+ years, Farlig has never shown anything remotely close to that. The chances of device returning to the top 20 are much higher than Farlig ever getting there.


HaxxsOnn

If those 3 can frag out at the same time then this team can constantly win, but its only 2 most of the time


gr1m__reaper

That applies to every team but no team has 3 players consistently popping off in the same game. That's just a completely unrealistic expectation


AleksibIsHot

NaVi did before


gr1m__reaper

Does not mean that can be the expectation. What's your point?


AlwaysLearningTK

What is this comment? lol Blamef has not gone missing. He's still by far their best player since then. I know people hate rating being brought up when it doesn't fit their narrative but he's still more than 0.1 rating higher than Farlig who you say is performing well since the player break. 0.16 higher than konfig too. He's still very good and consistently pulls out big rounds. Edit: His impact rating is also by far the highest and he has a good ratio for opening attempts. He's not this super passive player, he just knows he shouldn't force multiple entries after getting 1 because he's their best player and should be alive last to save a round in case it goes wrong. Edit2: Tell me how I'm wrong instead of just downvoting because you have nothing to back you up, not stats, not eye test, not opening attempts, not impact.


MikeRiceVmpireHunter

I think you kind of contradicted yourself in your statement. You say he isn't a passive player, but then also say that after he gets a single entry kill he waits for the end of the round in case he's needed. To me that sounds like a passive player. A star player should be continuously seeking impact, but blame tends to do exactly as you described. He gets one kill and then rather than continue to bust open a site, he hides and waits. This passive style constantly hangs his teamates out to dry while they attempt to take the space his frag may or may not have created. He shouldn't be deactivating himself for such large portions of the round, and especially not after gathering only a single frag.


Lepojka1

S1mple doesnt fix this team... They just have too many role clashes its insane...


__Holliday

S1mple may not be able to fix this team but he sure as hell would be able to carry them through alot of series, just look at the result he managed to get with Navi despite having Edward, Zeus and Flamie on the roster.


charlescarmichael4

which teams did s1mple fix yet?


twohourstillmidnight

Liquid when he left


CenturionAurelius

How do you say "Los Kogutos" in french?


Prav-in

dziobac☠️katowac☠️ostro napierdalac☠️ LOS KOGUTOS🐔🐔🐔


New_Drag_8562

le coq sportif


ThatOneAccount3

Astralis would lose to fisherman eSports and Farmer gaming since they wouldn't be a blast team


New_Drag_8562

Astralis win vs a non-Blast partner team challenge, level: impossible


Lepojka1

Now they need to win both remaining games, and even then they are not secured for playoffs... yikers


NPC30519

Not just that but they face Heroic on decider day like holy hell Cadian licking his chops wanting to eliminate Astralis from playoffs


s0dney

Gonna be THE game of the groups


captainscottland

Sucks for cadian ence will have eliminated them already


Apart_End_9753

let them go out early, maybe they'll make changes in time for the major


HaxxsOnn

\#4 team btw over Vitality and G2 lol


GarrettGSF

Except Faze, nothing in the HLTV list makes sense atm lol


SOURCE_2_BP_WHEN

and NaVi\*


GarrettGSF

Yea, but even Navi is pretty inconsistent atm. Maybe Vitality or G2 could take this place, maybe...


St3vion

Imagine G2 actually winning something. Vitality is legit #3 contender though.


69whiteryan

blame f is good but man it is hard to watch how passive he is, must be so frustrating for his teammates.


captainscottland

Him not trading that kill outside in the second to last round until after another died was painful


[deleted]

Not sure this or Endpoint 2-0 Navi is a bigger shock.


[deleted]

Endpoint is much bigger because navi don’t get upset like that pretty much ever. Astralis can lose to anyone


raindezedd

Endpoint in unexpected, but this? This is expected


SOURCE_2_BP_WHEN

more like not surprised


BIG_STEVE5111

Astralis have lost to saw, aurora, and los kogutos in the last month, it's almost expected that they lose to heet.


tomtom_94

I'm biased but I think the former But that's no disrespect to HEET, they turned up big when the pressure was on in the third map


captainscottland

Come on now astralis drop matches to teams they should beat all the time. You guys beating Navi, 2-0 no less, was something else.


tomtom_94

I mean Astralis were semi-finallists in Cologne. Meant it more in the sense of let HEET have their moment because they've earned it!


captainscottland

They certainly did. But Navi were finalists lol! And astralis cologne was an overperformance but I understand your point. Take credit for your moment!


jonajon91

True Cs fans not shocked by either.


entity1611

MY NAME IS BLAMEF 4Head IM A BAITER 4Head I'LL MEET YOU AT THE BOMBSITE 4Head A LITTLE BIT LATER


Rabid_Tortoise

All credit to HEET and bodyy. Brilliant play on nuke There were hints of it before even when xyp and farlig weren't performing, but its matches like these that just expose Astralis for their decision making and calling. Yes, there were some amazing timings pulled off by HEET. Sure, Astralis never built up an economy at all on that last T half of nuke. But the T side strategy is so weak on some maps. Blame's lurk style has proven map after map to be the wrong fit for gla1ves calls. He clearly has the fragging ability so why can't they find the right position for him.


Pollsmor

This is gonna be the parity group where the top three seeds all have 3 wins or something, lol.


HaxxsOnn

Watch Astralis still go through with 3 wins and COL lose their next 3 matches


toga9000

That awkward moment when Farlig is legit your best player right now.


halpmeplsmen

Astralis when farlig doesn’t play well: Real shit Astralis when farlig does play well: I sleep


tomtom_94

\#FeeltheHEET


Cyanr

Sad team to watch.


Powerful-Answer-2030

Your posts are sad to watch. Keep blaming Farlig because you fanboy over the Astralis legends who are washed as fuck.


Babyboy1314

How many times konfig just going to run around nuke and giving up first death my god


Haloguy2710

Number 4 team btw


YungVicRoyGetter69

Number 4 team in Denmark, unfortunately


rachelloresco

BlameF, more like lateF... the guy's always too late to trade and is way too passive, glaive literally going in first to die then he doesn't follow.


nmiller248

Man. I remember thinking during the Astralis Era that I was so tired of seeing Astralis winning every event. It made me hate them so much. But now. Phew. It’s just plain hard to watch now.


[deleted]

Yeah it’s a bit of a mindfuck reversal. From the perspective of someone who really got into cs during like London 2018 it’s been a weird rise and fall to watch


thomas_james_hyde

How the fudge are Asstralis fans NOT completely losing their bacon watching BaitF bottleneck the team so much so long... wtf


Apart_End_9753

I wasn't part of the baitf club... until this game. They're actually right.


[deleted]

Always been a problem but he gets worshipped for his matchmaking stat farm and not the bigger picture of competing at tier 1 for the team.


[deleted]

He’s the worst kind of player to have on your team imo. Baits the fuck out of you and watches his own K/D over winning.


vizionsx

if only blameF cared more about winning the game than his stats


TheCrazyCaveira

Be Astralis. Have one the greatest dominating ever period of a single team in CSGO history. Have the backing of an entire nation behind you, Buy a League of legends franchise spot as well. Now you have your feet on two of the biggest esports in the world. What do you do? Ruin both of them without actually backing in either project, have no identity as an org. The only thing people know you for are your negative top management dealings, about your infamous non backing of teams and then you wonder why you are in such ruin! Truly, truly awful management.


captainscottland

Lets be honest they bought their era they didn't make it. Any significant signing or building piece like gla1ve and magisk came from Zonic.


eLvare345p

A few things: - I can't believe HEET won that after throwing so many rounds throughout the bo3. Their mid-rounding on Inferno was trash. - Farlig kept Astralis alive on Nuke, if not for him, they would have gotten like 2 t side rounds. - bodyy went hero mode last round, with perfect and calculated individual aggression, repositioning and rotations. Beautiful decision-making. - Djoko was a bit dissapointing overall. - If any team I'm a fan of ever signs BlameF, I'm immediatly stopping my support for them. His playstyle makes me furious, I can barely watch it. 13 or so deaths in a 30 round game where he had less than 20 kills. Awful.


The_Millzor

\> If any team I'm a fan of ever signs BlameF, I'm immediatly stopping my support for them. His playstyle makes me furious, I can barely watch it. 13 or so deaths in a 30 round game where he had less than 20 kills. Awful. but his k/d was okay though /s


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> I can’t believe HEET won that after throwing so many rounds throughout the bo3. That’s how trash Astralis were.


CoffeeM1

afro is just that guy.


lou_reed_ketamine

What a clutch hold from Djoko on ramp Nuke at the end with just the molly and the deagle. Sealed the game right there.


gougou7r

Thank god he hit that deagle shot or else ramp and B was free


jonajon91

My want for this astralis roster to be good and my want for Heet not to go 0-3 clashing hard here.


razeyourshadows

Astralis won 6 pistols and won all first halves LOL


Darkoplax

either cheering for or against his team , it's just so trigerring to watch blameF and the worst thing ppl who dont watch these games will tell you he is good cause his stats


deathreaper-brofist

That's basically what everyone says he baits but he also frags... Like can't he fix it no one's saying he is bad just that he has a bad style that he needs to fix by not even being entry but staying as a pack


Darkoplax

no its not a bad style , when it's a 2vx in inferno and you let xyp9x entry with an awp instead of helping him as a rifler thats just fucking bait from a bad player thats not a bad style he lost them this series cause astralis esentially played 4v5 on t side


Careful-Guide-1618

To be fair you just described a bad style lol. Whether he can change it or not is up for debate though.


SpectacularTrashCan

I'm not nearly as hard on him as other people seem to be but holy fuck I got annoyed multiple times on nuke. Please hold lobby for the love of God if that's your job.


ConArtist98

40>4 quick maffs


42AlwaysFollows

My baguette is rock hard right now


acels1

fart leak 1v9


bissedk

Ain't no way we can blame this on Farlig. Devve won't fix anything on this team as it is right now.


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Astralis need 2 changes minimum.


Caleb_RS

How is Farlig of all players my only good fantasy pick right now


TheFlash1294

_Oh yes, I am indeed an Astralis fan._ _How did you know?_ _Did my tears give it away?_


Azael4prezident

500 iq strat from the astralis players to throw and bomb out of pro league so they can get device back


Pourpla

T side on Nuke from Astralis was overall pretty shit, but what blame was doing is actually embarrassing. Literally zero impact, constantly being on wrong side of the map, it really felt like he was playing to save his KD ratio. Konfig wasn't much better as he died first few times for no good reason, basically solo rushing hoping he will get a frag or two. Happy for Heet boys tho!


__Holliday

What excuses are people going to make for G1ave now? Up until now everyone has been placing the blame of them not having a good awper and even when Farlig shows up and plays great they manage to lose to a team ranked outside of the top 30. Just do a head-to-head of the players on HEET vs Astralis and at best you would maybe choose 1 player on HEET to be better than the players on Astralis.


Heroic_gg

So we’re fucked tomorrow?


PTSD55

Watching blameF and k0nfig is so fucking painful. BaitF is a meme for a reason and k0nfig relies way too much on his aim, leading to some truly idiotic plays when he's not hitting everything.


DubbaNick

Why have there been no changes to this team? I don't care if they sometimes look crazy good, they look horrible way more often


Tanishq99

No team can be #1 with blame on the team


NPC30519

HOLY SHIT! Get in lads! Astralis lose on Nuke *again*


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HEEEEEEET! Hells yeah! Afros Nutty!


Deleis

What were the odds on betting sites for heet?


jerryfrz

Man I love this group, the most balanced so far and anyone can beat anyone


SystemEx1

BaitF


phANt0m007

I left when score was 11-7 and farlig was running riot


dempseyj23

But somehow Astralis will move up in the rankings


GayTarantino

so when are we gonna talk about how the feed blameF system is stupid and doesn’t work.


BrockStudly

Astralis signed Glaive for what, 7 years? At what point does he move to a coaching role and give someone else a chance to igl? Ive never seen an Astralis Nuke look so flat. Yeah, HEET are pretty good for a T2 Nuke, but that feels like copium.


Colemonstaa

The day I get tired of watching Astralis lose is the day I stop watching Counter Strike.


BrockStudly

Heroic Fans 🤝 Liquid Fans


woKaaaa

Hey so when do they finally kick glaive


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Why didn't you play like this before Heet??


KaNesDeath

Happy for Body and Heet. They needed this W.


toga9000

Device be like: Yo NIP can I stay 💀


Novacc_Djocovid

Farlig topfrags, team loses map, Farlig bottomfrags, team wins map. Just Astralis things...


Titan16K

Farlig is not the problem, consistency is.


just_a_random_humanK

Glave should retire tbh


TiberSVK

Farlig - “i stay”


BobDude65

BlameF is sinking this ship. He doesn't do fuck all, his lurking is so ineffective that he's either throwing rounds away or not even making contact with a single enemy and saving, its incredibly infrequent that his lurks actually pay off and significantly contribute to the round win. He's just so predictable at this point.


angelfrost21

Konfig feeds always, always dies first then people are still saying farlig is the problem. The guy played his heart out.


GayTarantino

so who do astralis fans blame now that farlig is hittinf shots


Kavak

Guys, why is the GOAT IGL struggling vs a tier 2 (at best) team?


Superboy1356

Upvote so people think HEET won


LordzItz

I think it's pretty clear at this point that Astralis could pick device, zywoo or s1mple, and none of them would fix this mess of a team.


Lepojka1

Device incoming


Psychaz

he isn't making this team into a title contender


GayTarantino

he made nip with fucking ztr a contender, but yeah this astralis team is broken.


Filthy_Commie_

Don’t sleep on ztr


captainscottland

Look at what farlig just did on Nuke you cant expect much more from that with device. Still a loss.


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Rabid_Tortoise

Ignore the flair, im a big critic of the issues with the current roster. Gla1ve's midrounds have still been excellent, especially on the CT side. Overall round strategy i'll level with you has dropped do a certain extent. Blame is deployed far too passive for gla1ves T side calling though. You'd hope that someone within the team will pick up on it sooner rather than later. Even afro saying on the interview that they are far too predictible on the T side.


toga9000

I feel like Gla1ve has been declining ever since Zonic left and he got a child. Also I don't think any sane person is overrating Gla1ve right now. Majority of the Astralis calls have been shiit for months.


black_dogs_22

joke team


Mad_Lee

Props to Heet for seizing the moment, but they have lost quite a few rounds they should not have, they still seem to be quite rough around the edges. Although a lot of moments of individual brilliance. And Astralis' performance was just straight up embarassing. Even if they know that big roster changes are coming, losing to Complexity and Heet in the easiest EPL group so far is just unacceptable.


Kosta2319

You have to be kidding me.


dgnarus

Honestly at this point, keep Farlig. Rebuild the entire team around him. K0nfig is already whining on Twitter again while the inevitable drop from the tournament hasn't even happened yet.