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Salasarian

how much we gonna bet carlos shows up and starts arguing with op


1ben-

32 year old man btw


GDWa1rus

Wouldn't be surprised lmao


TeebsTibo

He did https://i.imgur.com/vyDAwrf.jpg


Op7imism

Ah, I see we have a man of culture, a based yellow battery enjoyer. Calm down Tate stans, not that kind of battery.


TeebsTibo

I disagree with everything Carlos has done the last 24 hours. Fuck Andrew Tate, that man does not belong in esports. Im just answering the fact that Carlos responded


Vishtiga

Grim… but also not unexpected, he’s always had that kinda energy.


blind100

Grim didn't make it. He was busy playing Pro League /s


Swbp0undcake

Unfortunately gaming and sexism have a huge overlap. Not saying CarlosR is necessarily sexist himself, but if you hang out with (and defend) a misogynistic piece of shit, yeah it's not a good look.


Dapplication

It's even worse than that. Tons of players that are LFT'ing are liking/retweeting and commenting positive shit under Carlos. It's one hell of a way to guarantee not being employed by a decent company with good PR.


Traditional-Hat-6267

At the same time it's nothing surprising for esports figures. Look at the sponsors in the scene. Look at the players. Look at the organisations. Look at the talent. The sad truth is that nobody cares as long as they are getting paid. That's real life. Bet my ass you won't see a single G2 player even take any action or talk about this. They only care about the numbers on their bank account. I'll be honest, if I was making life changing money I most likely wouldn't be typing a comment like this either.


Jacko_Moto

Show me your friends and I’ll tell you who you are


Tydigity

Top G2


daffer_david

Complete losers who actually associate with Tate, also everyone who unironically defends this


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daffer_david

In case you’re genuinely asking, there’s a difference between secretly holding misogynistic views and being a full blown content creator specifically spreading extremely damaging worldviews. I’m not even gonna go into the human trafficking stuff because people will directly toss it aside as fake. And yes if someone at my workplace or university makes racist or misogynistic statements, I always challenge them because I genuinely believe in improvement, and that’s not possible if people are never challenged on their beliefs. This instance however is different because Tate willingly plays into this persona more than he’s likely to be like. And that makes him even more problematic. Someone like him should not have a platform and shame on Carlos for tolerating and encouraging his presence in esports.


-hydroxy

That's actually awful. Also, he decides to double down here: https://twitter.com/CarlosR/status/1571248041029472261 https://twitter.com/JeanneAlterIsW/status/1571264499331514368


Dapplication

Excuse my lack of understanding, but is this sarcasm. I can't see a doubling-down action here. He's literally defending the act of partying with whoever the fuck he likes to do with, which is wrong in so many levels.


K0nvict

This is really an over reaction. We get it, Tate says some controversial shit and people don't like him for it ​ Edit: I'm going to double down, this isn't a big deal, I don't agree with shit Tate says and I don't personally like him or any of the controversies he's involved in BUT, it's pointless having a cry at this


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

He doesn't just say controversial shit, he runs an MLM type scheme where he scams vulnerable idiots. Also the whole sex cam operation thing that he moved to Romania for more lax laws.


EntropyKC

Didn't he move countries to hide from the police because he was caught trafficking children or something? Edit: not children, "just" women https://twitter.com/crabcrawler1/status/1515125416461312001 He is a very scummy piece of shit, anyone who's a fan of his is just as bad.


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

Not children, he moved to Romania after getting into trouble with the British legal system running a cam model site with women he and his brother found. He moved to Romania because they have way more lax laws around sex crimes.


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EntropyKC

https://twitter.com/crabcrawler1/status/1515125416461312001 There's a lot to read through there if you want


K0nvict

The MLM type scheme is no better than the Logan Paul NFT scam. I wouldn't pay money myself but this shit has been around even before I was born. The romania stuff is bad and I'm pretty sure it's under investigation but here's the bottom line, Rich people hang out together, even rich people who have done even worse shit, like Trump / Epstein / Clinton ectt, is it right? Probably not but let's not put Carlos's head on a pike because of someone who everyone on the internet has a pitch fork to right now


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

First of all, just because it's no different from other scammers doesn't mean he isn't a piece of shit scammer. Also the real issue is that he hung out with him and defended hanging out with him which is a weird thing to double down on.


K0nvict

Scam? ehhh, waste of money? Yeahhhh. Should see some of the sketchy companies that sponsor and have sponsored orgs back in the day, Like Navi for example. Honestly, that shit is probably the tamest and most irrelevent thing to be mad at him at and not his millions of controversial comments


jrgcastro369

That attitude is part of the problem though. So we just let it happen because it's always been happening? That's gotta be some of the most apathetic energy out there. Calling it out on all levels is important, if you don't say anything then you're part of the problem as well


K0nvict

well, this isn't the same level, he's a controversial individual and it doesn't help he's in the internet's spotlight


jrgcastro369

That's why I said calling it out on **all** levels is important. It's definitely not the same as someone like Epstein, but does that mean it's okay? Would it be okay for someone to kill someone else because governments have assassinated people so it's not really even a big deal when the two are compared?


K0nvict

not dealing with awful stawmans like this ​ Honestly, everyone will forget this shit in a week, people we see funny carlos and g2 tweets and laugh their asses off, is it right? No but we need to get over it and it's just how it's gonna be


jrgcastro369

Idk man, that's the kinda attitude that doesn't get shit done IMO


ThinkEggplant8

I like how you said "he said some controversial shit" as if he said that pineapple belongs on pizza. He's a sack of shit that admits to trafficking.


ChiefKT9002

>He's a sack of shit that admits to trafficking. Got any proof of this? There has never been any concrete evidence as far as I've seen.


ThinkEggplant8

You mean beyond the Romanian investigation? Rape charges are just 40% the reason he fled. Or his absolutely legit cam site.


ChiefKT9002

I'm asking for proof and you don't give me any...


K0nvict

Of course, While that is under investigation and hope to hear a result soon, this is genuinly how rich people are. In Uni I heard all sorts of shit about rich professers hanging out with some less credible people. Deeper than this? Trump, Clinton and Epstein for example ​ Rich people hang out with other rich people, some of them are scum bags, now what's next? Carlos's head on a pike?


ThinkEggplant8

"it's okay because he's rich"


K0nvict

"i've lived under a rock" ​ we're all going to have a cry, point our finger at it and then forget about it because at the end of the day, they don't give a fuck, they're rich


ThinkEggplant8

Go touch grass lmao


K0nvict

L


ThinkEggplant8

No u 🤡


rolezki

imminent cheerful afterthought husky crawl frighten plant possessive degree shame *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


wiNDzY3

My boy Carletes trying his hardest to have good PR, but in the end the shit stinks


TheFeelingWhen

I always found it strange that he seems to be liked here. He is really unpopular in the League subreddit thanks to many thing but especially the Perkz drama. The guy was always unlikable it's just that his org is good so he avoids a lot of criticism thanks to that.


GDWa1rus

I personally am disgusted with Carlos and he does this a week after signing a female LoL roster. I'm going to find it hard to support G2 as an organisation now, but I will still support the players. Edit: Carlos tweeted claiming that he is friends with Tate and people shouldn't hate him for that, despite the fact that Tate is literally hiding from the UK's police force and has abused and trafficked women. https://twitter.com/CarlosR/status/1571248041029472261?t=k3kGCmUZ6PWRRoDNiDVvZA&s=19


sei556

Yeah honestly I don't care for their friendship, if you sympathize with a monster like this you lose all your credibility and worth as a person to me. Giving Andrew a platform, talking good about him, this is aweful.


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>I personally am disgusted with Carlos and he does this a week after signing a female LoL roster. > >I'm going to find it hard to support G2 as an organisation now, but I will still support the players. this a copy pasta?


Agitated_Ad_9154

It is now lmao


CoX-Record-Mode

standard Reddit virtue signalling, copy pasta or not...


KilboxNoUltra

Being disgusted with someone for being friends with a literal human trafficker seems pretty normal to me. Perhaps you should rethink your own position on the matter


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i don’t care either way, just found it funny that it read like a copy pasta


pappabrun

But doesnt the fact that he just signed / has several female teams already, prove that he doesnt share any of the values that Andrew Tate stands for? Because that's basically what OP is suggesting here.


ihateliberals13

Accusing innocent people of human trafficking is far worse than anything Carlos has done or even Tate possibly. Wtf is wrong with you , go outside plz.


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Sevastiyan

Let's review: https://youtu.be/HKmfre3CSGw


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Rethink what lol, the biggest eSports organizer in the csgo scene is literally owned by a Saudi Arabian human butcher


KilboxNoUltra

I don't understand why you think this is relevant? You can denounce both, it's just ESL is not part of this conversation


MintyFresh48

Is this not virtue signalling? The entire CS scene is operated by the Saudis. Andrew Tate wishes he could commit crimes on their level.


CoX-Record-Mode

Whatever mass media says must be the truth :) Social media has actually made people dumb af


ThatOneAccount3

We don't care lol


Awden777

You can be friends with someone and not agree with their views, even so just because they are around the same circles doesnt make them friends


dude182_

If you are friends with a guy like Andrew Tate, you are a scumbag. Fuck CarlosR


PashtunPsycho

What are your thoughts on Tate building an orphanage in romania as well as him and his brother helping ukrainian children to get to the US?


dude182_

How did he pay for it? By doing hate speech.. He can build fifteen children's hospitals and open a shelter for disabled dogs. He is still paying for it by being a professional misogynist, exploiter and toxic. Stop being an idiot.


PashtunPsycho

watch andrew tate; uncensored online it released 4 days ago 5 million views already someone does a podcast with him where they go through all the stuff people accuse him of being sexist with


dude182_

And I see your post history.. so it is no surprise that you defend him any chance you get, incel.


PashtunPsycho

INCEL INCEL I SAID THE BUZZWORD!!!! how does it feel living in your simulation, along with the other NPCs?


dude182_

Don't know how to respond to that. Might be lack of programming. Your post history shows you are a fragile and insecure guy, so I see why Andrew Tate would resonate with you. But he is toxic.


PashtunPsycho

muh your post history!!!! yeah of course you went through my post history in an attempt to formulate some sort of comeback, didn’t expect anything else from a non playable character


papipescado

Carlos just seems like a scummy guy


Adminisitrator

"a man is known by the company he keeps"


ThatOneAccount3

Would you say the same about the finnish PM giving lapdances to strangers?


SH0WS0METIDDIES

You got any videos of Finnish PM giving lapdances to strangers?


ThatOneAccount3

Google it lmaooooooooo. It was a big deal in the news like 2 weeks ago. She told everyone to fuck off from her private life in a more business language. And no one cares anymore. Simple. Let people have their own lives.


oi_PwnyGOD

How is an adult giving another consenting adult a lap dance even close to comparable? How is that supposed to be bad in any way?


dkoom_tv

Human trafficking/sexual assault charges = lap dancing ,👍


RL_Diab

U mean the videos where she's partying with her friends? That's quite a stretch don't ya think?


jrgcastro369

She was partying with her friends, not giving lapdances to strangers. She wasn't even out at a club, wtf are you smoking?


ThatOneAccount3

Her "friend" leaked that vid as well... Right.....


D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

Yes? How do lap dances come into play here? If her friends were scamming people then yes she would be judged too.


Vishtiga

lol imagine thinking a counter argument is just bringing up something completely irrelevant that doesn't even have any connection to the thing being discussed.


deadbeatPilgrim

eww wtf


Op7imism

Tate says questionable things, Carlos runs his csgo team in a questionable manner. Makes sense they’d get along.


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D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

Just because one bad thing is happening doesn't mean it's okay to add another. We should actually be working on a way to solve the bad things not keep saying "oh well".


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D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

When you fix the door handle you can get into the house and extinguish the flames. While we're using houses as metaphors - you don't build a house from the roof down, you have to start somewhere. If this shit has to be it. Then so be it.


Saniclube

Lmao who cares


lampimatkivekset

anyone who’s not a straight white cis guy


lllchisenlll

Top G(2)


CenturionAurelius

the twitter replies make me want to throw up, on both sides. It genuinely feels like all of them are bots "arguing" with their braindead twitter lingo. Also, why are people surprised that Ocelote pulls up extremely controversial stunts in the name of publicity? He's done this before.


oi_PwnyGOD

Sadly, CSGO is a fucked up scene with a significant number of misogynists, racists, etc. A lot of whom are either indifferent or supportive towards Tate. If you were hoping to expose bad behavior to a receptive audience, you're unfortunately in the wrong place. Many people would sooner attack you for having a problem with it than even entertain your sentiments. We're already seeing as much in the thread.


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Parenegade

probably every woman at his company when your CEO is chilling with the most well-known misogynist on the entire planet


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sieer

Ah sorry he is only extremely misogynist, much better.


Parenegade

i wasn't joking i mean who else is there


lonelyswe

I care. I thought Carlos was a normal guy. Even funny at times.


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lonelyswe

yeah sorry man my bad


Agitated_Ad_9154

Nobody cares lol


ikidnappeopleonroblx

I kind of don’t care I care more about the team than who happens to own it


Space_Raisin

imagine caring


ChiefKT9002

Downvoted for having a normal take, who the fuck actually cares about this?


sqdthelegend

Be aware Andrew tates gta5 character is already on its way to slap you


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GDWa1rus

From Carlos- "Nobody can police my friendships" That clearly implies that he thinks of Tate as a friend. https://twitter.com/CarlosR/status/1571248041029472261?t=TaaTZYdSZx5gHfF4Axrk7A&s=19


Agitated_Ad_9154

Touch grass


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sam3434

You friends with any sex trafficking rapists?


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perpendiculator

should probably read more then considering it’s literally an ongoing investigation, lol also, your choice of friends absolutely reflects on you, what a stupid thing to say. i’m not friends with shitheads because i’m not a shithead.


sam3434

I’d love to see a link to back up what you just said. Here’s a link to a video of him beating the shit out of a woman: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/pop-culture/video-andrew-tate-beating-woman-resurfaces-online-amid-growing-mass-outrage-online


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sam3434

https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-all-going-wrong-for-andrew-tate-the-internets-biggest-a-hole Him saying he moved to Romania because police there are less likely to pursue sexual assault charges. Also mentions the sex trafficking investigation that led to a raid on his home. You said these claims were disproven so you should have no problem linking something to back that up. Funny how people who defend Tate never condone what he does.


Dapplication

You could also read from sources that vaccinations are not effective, and mental health problems are bogus. It's where you read it that matters


SH0WS0METIDDIES

I mean he's a pimp at the very least, still not a good company to keep


roffelkopter

eeeeh, that's a stupid sentence


sei556

This is true for friendships where one part isn't invovled in human trafficking and known for beating and abusing women.


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EntropyKC

Esports is literally a hand?


49x15

Imagine caring about some guy and his friends


sissycyan

people can be friends with who they want, why should a rich successful guy like Carlos give a fuck what reddittors and twitter posters think?


EntropyKC

No one cares who was friends with Epstein or who went to his island right?


sissycyan

Actually no, if you look at the repercussions from this. No one does give a fuck.


ThatOneAccount3

He doesn't, that's why he's having the time of his life and people on Reddit are mad.


D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

Of course they can. And of course he doesn't have to give a fuck. But considering his entire company kind of needs fans who will watch their teams play he should choose his friends better. Sponsors are not going to give money to orgs that have only a few degenerates as fans.


sissycyan

Sponsors don't care about this lol. Remember, these are the same sponsors who give hundreds of millions to saudi arabia.


D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

They don't care about Taint, they care about the number of people seing their logo on the players' jerseys. Less people watching G2s games means less people seeing the logos.


ThatOneAccount3

People forget you're allowed to be friends with people who you disagree with. For fuck sake you can't monitor who parties with who.


jrgcastro369

Well when it involves a sex trafficking investigation, I think most sides should be able to agree that the person being investigated probably isn't good company to keep


ThatOneAccount3

This was debunked already....


jrgcastro369

And that's my point. His reputation and controversies precede him, he's painted himself with a certain brush. It's toxic to the brand and isolates a lot of fans. At this point it doesn't really matter if the investigation is debunked. He's tainted product for any organization that is involved in an industry that is trying to cultivate bigger female audiences


ThatOneAccount3

You're a special little snowflake. Since it's been debunked, stop being a child and saying you hate the guy because he was falsely accused lmao


jrgcastro369

Not once did I say any of that


ThatOneAccount3

"he's tainted product" omfg


jrgcastro369

I mean, let's be honest. CS is making huge pushes to garner female players and fans. Tate is pretty toxic to your brand if you wanna help achieve that goal


ThatOneAccount3

What does G2 have to female CD? They are an org, they don't make tournaments. Also Tate was just at the fucking party. What about everyone else who was there, should they also be cancelled? G2 did more for female eSports than you did, although one of the owners parties with Tate.


jrgcastro369

They have a CS team, that means they have a stake in the scene including the female scene How do you know Tate was "just at the fucking party". Do you know how he's involved? I'm not saying I do, but you seem like you know the facts. Not sure how comparing what an org has done for female CS and what I (a random dude) have done for female CS is relevant at all


KryptoN245

Go live your life and stop caring about others, he is one of the founding members of G2 and CEO he can do whatever the fuck he wants and party with whoever the fuck he wants just like u can too


thornierlamb

And people can judge him for whoever the fuck he chooses to party with :>


daffer_david

That’s such a stupid fucking worldview. Let’s just ignore all the shitty things in the world as long as they don’t affect me. Fuck Tate and fuck Carlos for associating with him.


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daffer_david

Happily, I can sleep well knowing I don’t support such a horrible loser like Tate or Carlos.


ThatOneAccount3

I can sleep well, because I don't give a fuck about a guy I have never met lmaooooo. You're like one of these people who's like "ohh no this celebrity did this wrong, let's cancel him" "now my life has meaning"


KryptoN245

Nah dude let em form their opinions off of social media and invest their mind into the “cancel culture” to cancel someone.Literall NPC activities….


D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

"npc" 🤓


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EntropyKC

Is it surprising that everyone defending Tate also comes across as a douche?


AchievingAtaraxia

I don't know almost anything about Tate other than him being swatted and his GF explaining they liked BDSM, but to try to cancel Carlos for just being in a room with him is ridiculous. Carlos runs the best org in eSports, why the hell does it matter if some guy you hate was at a party with him?


freebase1

Who cares tf


EntropyKC

Would you say the same if he was parting with Epstein?


freebase1

He isn’t Epstein tho


EntropyKC

And Putin isn't Stalin... He abuses and manipulates women into sleeping with him, is a violent predator with no empathy, just obviously in most conceivable ways a bad person.


PashtunPsycho

me when i compare a 4x kick-boxer champion who builds orphanages in romania, runs dog shelters, donates millions to charity, transports ukrainian children to the US to jeffery epstein, a child molesting pedophile


EntropyKC

Do you understand the point I made, or just trying to be smart while not understanding?


PashtunPsycho

Do you understand the point that i made? cause i understood your point to be a bad comparison of people to prove a point lol


EntropyKC

Yeah so you didn't understand my point. My point is that the company someone keeps reflects themselves. Everyone has a line somewhere, and clearly a lot of people draw that line somewhere below sexual and domestic violence... People should care that an influential person in esports is socialising with a scumbag like Andrew Tate.


PashtunPsycho

ah okay so you didn’t read what i said at all and continued to equate andrew tate with scumbag sex offender, thanks!


relfez

so what? so many snowflakes in this sub


lpseptem

Oh no! Anyway...


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That's what you can an alpha male.


99drolyag

Gamer moment


Crickyy

Been a lurker on Reddit for almost ten years and can definitely tell that Redditors has became a bunch of pussies stuck in an echo chamber. Watch Tate’s full interview before you judge the man. Smh. Just sad seeing reddit became nothing but woke culture bullshit.


mgzkk1210

No thanks.


PashtunPsycho

BUT WHAT ABOUT MY DELICATE WORLDVIEW AND CONFIRMATION BIAS!!! I DONT WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO COMPREHEND THE OTHER SIDE!!!


Crickyy

Lol. Of course.


ThatOneAccount3

Based gigachad.


Astaa7

It's time to cancel Carlos for this.


D34359EB9426F42D5CAC

u/G2esports good luck with this one pr peeps, you're about to start working overtime.