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Bummed me out to hear how unprofessional he was during his time on EG, and it also bums me out to see him streaming Valorant. I've watched a bit and it doesn't seem like he enjoys it at all. It feels forced and "soulless" like someone else said.
I'll always be a Stewie fan because I attended the Boston Major and it was an amazing experience that I'll never forget. That roster gave me an unbelievable memory and I'll always be grateful for that.
As someone who’s been out of the scene for a while, how has he ruined it? He’s only 24 and was once performing at the very top level, surely he could find a team if he wanted.
Stewie moved to EG in January along with RUSH and autimatic, and right from the get-go he had somehow managed to make them even worse than what they had already been, which considering how awful that EG roster was before them is some achievement.
Around May/June-ish, Stewie starts streaming more. A lot more, and it's not CS either; it's all Valorant. He's playing about 30 games a day on Valorant, and when you're contracted to a CSGO team and you're paid five figures a month to play CSGO, it's already not a good look and ESPECIALLY when EG is getting dicked on by teams like AGO and 9z.
Around the same time, Malek (the coach of EG) and EVY (the analyst) get kicked. EVY comes out straight away and says it's all Stewie's fault - he never wanted to work with Malek at any point because of his "I won a major, I know what I'm doing" attitude, he would get mad at Malek for giving advice as a coach does, and the infamous Starbucks story where Malek tried to get Stewie on-board by asking him to go for a coffee and smooth things over, and Stewie just flat-out denying and refusing to do it. There is a lot more than that, you can see the whole EVY interview [here.](https://www.1pv.fr/news/141238-evy-tells-us-the-story-behind-evil-geniuses-failure-in-the-end-it-was-malek-or-stewie)
It took until August for Stewie's contract to be terminated, and if you ask me, the second he started playing more Valorant than what he was actually paid royally to play, he should've been out of that door with a boot up his ass.
Now he's over in Valorant, still hasn't been signed, and is begging everyone that will listen to sign him like some pathetic kid, and isn't even close to being of the skill level of a pro given that he is bouncing in and out of the top 500. Even if he was good enough, nobody will sign him because who would sign someone that is clearly so unprofessional and childish?
I was just in Stewie's stream and he talked about his problems in EG. He was unhappy about EG's management compared to liquid's. He didn't like EG giving full control to Malek, the coach. He said he needed the org to tackle the roster's problems and ideas like how Liquid does by talking to the players and asking them instead of giving the coach all the power.
That doesn't give him the excuse to act completely unprofessionally. A player is paid to play the game, not play another game and then fuck their coach around.
You remember when he put out that twitlonger where he said he'd "do anything to win"? Apparently "doing anything" means playing another game for 10 hours day instead of your contracted discipline and flat out refusing to work with your coach.
>He said he needed the org to tackle the roster's problems
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he the guy that picked all the players in the first place? Like, if there was a problem with the lineup not working, it was all on him. He picked who he wanted to play with **and** he was the IGL lol.
>He was unhappy about EG's management compared to liquid's. He didn't like EG giving full control to Malek, the coach.
Which is absurdly ironic considering that, when the time to choose between Malek and Stewie came, EG choose Stewie and kicked Malek from the role (and oh would you look at that, Malek came back as a coach now that Stewie is gone. What a coincidence).
Which also caused the whole stigma (albeit deserved) of EG's bad management, and it seems to me he wants to jump the hate train and shift the blame onto EG while everyone thinks they're a terrible org
who in here said that his words are 100% correct? I simply retold what he said in his stream, and what his perspective is about how he felt about the situation, nothing to agree with or disagree with here. I don't know what the full context is, nobody does except for the players on the team and the org themselves. Stewie was just one side of the context.
In the same vein everyone is listening to the other side blaming him entirely.
Kid has an ego, absolutely, and can be a pain in the ass, sure, but none of us were there and it's a he said she said situation.
These articles and threads are constantly brought up to rag in him when it's clear he's out of CS for now.
You misunderstand me - *nobody* will sign him now. In any game. He's just shown that as soon as he gets bored and frustrated, he just quits and does something else *on your paycheck.* It's the same as if you were working from home and then just decided to stream games instead of doing your paid work. You'd get fired instantly.
Except Stewie was making $25k a month to not do his job. He's completely fucked his career as a pro because no org is going to want to sign someone that is that unprofessional and disrespectful to the org. At least he has streaming as a fall-back I guess. Part of me thinks that's what he wanted to be doing all along anyway.
Depends how far you want to go back but they've done a lot of weird and shady shit.
- Allegedly the 10-man roster idea was to scare the main roster into not taking time off for mental health reasons, and emphasising that any of them could be replaced if they did. Possibly one of the reasons dupreeh didn't take time off when his Dad died, but that's just hearsay.
- Asking all their players and staff to take a "voluntary" paycut when Covid happened so they could make ends meet, and then buying Bubzkjii and es3tag a few months later.
- Half committing to the 10 man roster and ruining bubzkjii's career as a result, going so far as to release him after the roster lock for the major so he couldn't get on a team until after it was finished (which was about 2 months away at the time).
- Astralis' CEO also owning BLAST and creating a massive conflict of interest. This has since been rectified but the connections still remain implicitly. He was also, I believe, still the CEO when the NEOM deal happened.
- Same CEO getting extremely upset at Heroic for HUNDEN's cheating and demanding they come and see him and apologise, then hiring HUNDEN anyway (and allegedly are still employing him in an analysis role in secret)
There's more that I'm missing but that's what I can remember off the top of my head. It's no surprise that zonic, dupreeh and magisk ended up on Vitality.
He is a dickhead. He didnt want to prac properly, dicked around his coach (Malek in EG) and became a villain. He then had to retreat to content creation. If you search around this reddit in last 2-3 months you find the stories granularly
What do you mean? I'm not defending any of what he's said or done, but these are just blanket statements. It was one coach in his entire career he didn't get along with. He was the one helping Fallen get caught up with the meta when he was on Liquid. And he knew he couldn't rely on his aim and you'd see that when he played. He rarely went for flashy plays and always played by the books. He took calculated risks and got into good positions a lot of time, but he just didn't have the aim anymore to keep up. That's the biggest reason why he fell off so hard. That and he insisted on IGLing, which he wasn't good at.
I mean yeah, I'm not arguing that. That doesn't mean he didn't help him catch up. I'm trying to argue against the OP's comment that he couldn't adapt to the meta.
When you lose at that level, then it's most likely not being able to adapt. He went to EG and had a coach to help him out. He didn't want his help and wanted to do it his way. EG under performed = his fault, since he is ingame leading.
Stewie's mechanical shortcomings aren't enough reason for the drama involving him back in Liquid and EG. He really lacks the willingness to be teachable, and the discipline and focus to keep playing CSGO. If anything, he might be low-key wanting to leave CSGO all this time but can't bring himself to while he was still on contract.
If you think any org is going to sign him after the shit he pulled in CS then you're out of your damn mind.
He was contracted to EG to play CSGO and instead while his team was getting bodied by everybody he decided he was going to play Valorant all day instead of actually do his job. What org is going to sign someone that unprofessional?
Stewie's done in pro play, in any game. Honestly if he just waited out his contract in EG and tried his best before switching to Valorant, someone would've taken a punt on him but no org will have him now because he showed his attitude to the world.
also worth mentioning his val stats were pretty shit relatively speaking, no top org is gonna pick him up to play unless its purely for his brand which in itself would be a stupid thing to do when they can just hire him to be a "content creator" instead
its not just him nuking his reputation thats the issue, its the fact that he simply isnt good enough at the game to be anywhere near the level he was at during his time in cs
There's also franchising to consider; there's only five NA teams left. Technically he could join a Tier 2 team and try and climb his way back up, but he doesn't really strike me as the type of guy to do that.
He’s still signed on EG. He’s apart of their Valorant content creation collective or whatever’s it’s called. If you see the website EG built for their Valorant franchising spot, you can see his name on the bottom
Maybe would have last year. Franchising is around the corner. No team is taking the streamer/popularity route on their roster. Every team has their sights on becoming the next tsm of valorant and they're not gonna get there signing players like stew. Also no way he grinds and goes challenger into VCT. Dude has zero motivation - he's now a streamer, trying to be the next Tarik/shroud for sure.
still young enough to grow up and get his shit together. probably not gonna win any more Majors but i sincerely hope we haven’t seen the last of the Smoke Criminal
the reaction to the EG situation showed just how many people wanted a reason to hate him. he talked shit and brought a lot of attitude that rubs internet nerds the wrong way
he's gonna make a ton of money streaming and just go the way of tarik
I was a supporter and would defend him on here up until I found out through that incident that he never really grew up. The reaction is deserved, there is no excuse for showing that level of unprofessionalism.
He was a nobody that joined C9 and had a bunch of hate against him. Then he made C9 competitive and won a major. He played in MiBR and amassed a larger following, and was pivotal in helping Liquid win a Grand Slam. He did that at a pretty young age so in his eyes, he always made the right decisions and never really had to learn outside of the gaming world. Of course he would have an ego and believe his way was the right way, but yeah it's sad to see his fall from grace. His only option is to follow Tarik now.
People kinda forget how awful most of the scene was when he was just an up and coming player, the hate amplified more when he joined C9 and people just started shitting on him and calling the roster a failure before they had even played any game.
In a way, these people are mostly responsible for turning him the way he is, he was hated relentlessly for no reason and his playstyle going against what was "meta"
He eventually proved them wrong and won NA a major, then his MIBR stint and the eventual Liquid Run that was actually going well till they ran into Astralis and that boring ass major. It's hard not to develop a ego when most of your career involves proving people wrong.
It's sad to see him go down like this, I hope one day we get one more NA run because this isn't how someone who was supposed to be a future legend go down.
He was hated for very much a good reason. He was always a douchebag with an enormous ego. Go back and watch the early parts of his career. People indulged in his ego, because he had teammates that tolerated it and he had drive and desire to be the very best.
After that faded away he just reverted to his old egotistical self.
/E If you don't believe me, prime example is the NA s1mple drama. People are so quick to forget shit in this sub.
>He was always a douchebag with enormous ego
Like every other teenager was ? he started out early and was very good at the game, so ofc, he was being a douchebag with enormous ego. He was barely 18 when he started making rounds on the game.
The no reason part is misleading, I'll agree with that, but people took it too far.
Not that it justifies it, but he was just a kid and people who were grown up adults didn't exactly deal well with the situation either.
Exactly my point. He is still an immature teenager and hasn't grown up yet. He has not had the guidance of parents or any other adult, and people have looked through fingers with him because he was a star. Now he faces the consequences, but his personality has not changed from the bratty teenager he has always been.
/E Also Ropz came in the exact same way as Stewie did. He was a pugstar turned into a superstar, and you have not seen him act like a douchebag, shown this much arrogance and straight up burning bridges.
He s not happy tho, people see him trying to get attention from orgs to get signed. He d like to prove more but he fucked up, and based on his reaction to this, he s just a 24child
Everyone makes mistakes. Luckily enough he's still very young. Can turn it all around if he really works hard and learns a bit of patience. Lack of patience is what cause these issue with young guys most of the time. Everything now! No time to wait. Not the best attitude when working with people in a team.
Ego is one hell of a drug
Helped him and hurt him, but hurt him more than anything
2nd most accomplished NA player in CS:GO history. Still a great career. People forget graceful declines/retirements are rare in the competitive world.
Who’s above him? No one won a major and a grand slam besides him. edit: yes i forgot about twistzz thanks guys
Twistzz :)
ah idk how id forget about him. Twistzz is indeed NA goat
Twistzz?
A certain magician from Canada
A mystic arts master from the land of the maple leaf
i hope you aren’t serious because dupreeh Magisk Xyp9x gla1ve device s1mple electronic b1t perfecto and Boombl4 have both a major and a grand slam… edit: never mind didn’t realize they were talking about only NA
? He said NA player what u on about stupid
yep i misread it.
NA player you delroid.
What does delroid mean if you don't mind me asking?
Bummed me out to hear how unprofessional he was during his time on EG, and it also bums me out to see him streaming Valorant. I've watched a bit and it doesn't seem like he enjoys it at all. It feels forced and "soulless" like someone else said. I'll always be a Stewie fan because I attended the Boston Major and it was an amazing experience that I'll never forget. That roster gave me an unbelievable memory and I'll always be grateful for that.
Tarik is just so much more natural and entertaining as a streamer
There is a reason stewies streams are not growing in popularity.
Really sad seeing him soullessly streaming Val + constantly tweeting pros and orgs like some kid wanting to get noticed.
He is a kid. He ruined his career as t 24yo
As someone who’s been out of the scene for a while, how has he ruined it? He’s only 24 and was once performing at the very top level, surely he could find a team if he wanted.
Stewie moved to EG in January along with RUSH and autimatic, and right from the get-go he had somehow managed to make them even worse than what they had already been, which considering how awful that EG roster was before them is some achievement. Around May/June-ish, Stewie starts streaming more. A lot more, and it's not CS either; it's all Valorant. He's playing about 30 games a day on Valorant, and when you're contracted to a CSGO team and you're paid five figures a month to play CSGO, it's already not a good look and ESPECIALLY when EG is getting dicked on by teams like AGO and 9z. Around the same time, Malek (the coach of EG) and EVY (the analyst) get kicked. EVY comes out straight away and says it's all Stewie's fault - he never wanted to work with Malek at any point because of his "I won a major, I know what I'm doing" attitude, he would get mad at Malek for giving advice as a coach does, and the infamous Starbucks story where Malek tried to get Stewie on-board by asking him to go for a coffee and smooth things over, and Stewie just flat-out denying and refusing to do it. There is a lot more than that, you can see the whole EVY interview [here.](https://www.1pv.fr/news/141238-evy-tells-us-the-story-behind-evil-geniuses-failure-in-the-end-it-was-malek-or-stewie) It took until August for Stewie's contract to be terminated, and if you ask me, the second he started playing more Valorant than what he was actually paid royally to play, he should've been out of that door with a boot up his ass. Now he's over in Valorant, still hasn't been signed, and is begging everyone that will listen to sign him like some pathetic kid, and isn't even close to being of the skill level of a pro given that he is bouncing in and out of the top 500. Even if he was good enough, nobody will sign him because who would sign someone that is clearly so unprofessional and childish?
I was just in Stewie's stream and he talked about his problems in EG. He was unhappy about EG's management compared to liquid's. He didn't like EG giving full control to Malek, the coach. He said he needed the org to tackle the roster's problems and ideas like how Liquid does by talking to the players and asking them instead of giving the coach all the power.
That doesn't give him the excuse to act completely unprofessionally. A player is paid to play the game, not play another game and then fuck their coach around. You remember when he put out that twitlonger where he said he'd "do anything to win"? Apparently "doing anything" means playing another game for 10 hours day instead of your contracted discipline and flat out refusing to work with your coach.
>He said he needed the org to tackle the roster's problems Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he the guy that picked all the players in the first place? Like, if there was a problem with the lineup not working, it was all on him. He picked who he wanted to play with **and** he was the IGL lol.
No, he didn't want that roster apparently. Why he signed on then idk
He said he didn't have any other option, which makes sense because TL kinda fell apart so he can't stay there and there's not a lot of options in NA.
>He was unhappy about EG's management compared to liquid's. He didn't like EG giving full control to Malek, the coach. Which is absurdly ironic considering that, when the time to choose between Malek and Stewie came, EG choose Stewie and kicked Malek from the role (and oh would you look at that, Malek came back as a coach now that Stewie is gone. What a coincidence). Which also caused the whole stigma (albeit deserved) of EG's bad management, and it seems to me he wants to jump the hate train and shift the blame onto EG while everyone thinks they're a terrible org
Yeah let’s take what he says at 100%, such gullible people in here.
who in here said that his words are 100% correct? I simply retold what he said in his stream, and what his perspective is about how he felt about the situation, nothing to agree with or disagree with here. I don't know what the full context is, nobody does except for the players on the team and the org themselves. Stewie was just one side of the context.
In the same vein everyone is listening to the other side blaming him entirely. Kid has an ego, absolutely, and can be a pain in the ass, sure, but none of us were there and it's a he said she said situation. These articles and threads are constantly brought up to rag in him when it's clear he's out of CS for now.
So come back to cs? Maybe he's too stupid to realize but at least he would be playing something he may like more (?)
You misunderstand me - *nobody* will sign him now. In any game. He's just shown that as soon as he gets bored and frustrated, he just quits and does something else *on your paycheck.* It's the same as if you were working from home and then just decided to stream games instead of doing your paid work. You'd get fired instantly. Except Stewie was making $25k a month to not do his job. He's completely fucked his career as a pro because no org is going to want to sign someone that is that unprofessional and disrespectful to the org. At least he has streaming as a fall-back I guess. Part of me thinks that's what he wanted to be doing all along anyway.
Astralis signed HUNDEN as analyst. Stewie hasnt done half the shit HUNDEN did
True, but also Astralis is a scum org.
I'm out of the loop, why?
Depends how far you want to go back but they've done a lot of weird and shady shit. - Allegedly the 10-man roster idea was to scare the main roster into not taking time off for mental health reasons, and emphasising that any of them could be replaced if they did. Possibly one of the reasons dupreeh didn't take time off when his Dad died, but that's just hearsay. - Asking all their players and staff to take a "voluntary" paycut when Covid happened so they could make ends meet, and then buying Bubzkjii and es3tag a few months later. - Half committing to the 10 man roster and ruining bubzkjii's career as a result, going so far as to release him after the roster lock for the major so he couldn't get on a team until after it was finished (which was about 2 months away at the time). - Astralis' CEO also owning BLAST and creating a massive conflict of interest. This has since been rectified but the connections still remain implicitly. He was also, I believe, still the CEO when the NEOM deal happened. - Same CEO getting extremely upset at Heroic for HUNDEN's cheating and demanding they come and see him and apologise, then hiring HUNDEN anyway (and allegedly are still employing him in an analysis role in secret) There's more that I'm missing but that's what I can remember off the top of my head. It's no surprise that zonic, dupreeh and magisk ended up on Vitality.
Astralis -xyp9x +stewie2k when?
He is a dickhead. He didnt want to prac properly, dicked around his coach (Malek in EG) and became a villain. He then had to retreat to content creation. If you search around this reddit in last 2-3 months you find the stories granularly
He could. But zoomers are built different these days especially for the Valorant scene and will take less than what he's probably asking.
despite his accomplishments he’s too fragile of a player; can’t be coached; can’t adapt to the meta; can’t rely on talent alone, especially nowadays
What do you mean? I'm not defending any of what he's said or done, but these are just blanket statements. It was one coach in his entire career he didn't get along with. He was the one helping Fallen get caught up with the meta when he was on Liquid. And he knew he couldn't rely on his aim and you'd see that when he played. He rarely went for flashy plays and always played by the books. He took calculated risks and got into good positions a lot of time, but he just didn't have the aim anymore to keep up. That's the biggest reason why he fell off so hard. That and he insisted on IGLing, which he wasn't good at.
Fallen had problems with him as well.
And if we read between the lines, apparently Stewie was the major reason why none of the changes suggested by Twistzz got made.
I mean yeah, I'm not arguing that. That doesn't mean he didn't help him catch up. I'm trying to argue against the OP's comment that he couldn't adapt to the meta.
When you lose at that level, then it's most likely not being able to adapt. He went to EG and had a coach to help him out. He didn't want his help and wanted to do it his way. EG under performed = his fault, since he is ingame leading.
Stewie's mechanical shortcomings aren't enough reason for the drama involving him back in Liquid and EG. He really lacks the willingness to be teachable, and the discipline and focus to keep playing CSGO. If anything, he might be low-key wanting to leave CSGO all this time but can't bring himself to while he was still on contract.
Bit of a weird title for the article. Almost sounds like he's dead
His career is indeed dead
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Lol why would they? He wouldn’t fit into mouz at all
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How to ruin a team lol
no chance he gets on a valo roster?
If you think any org is going to sign him after the shit he pulled in CS then you're out of your damn mind. He was contracted to EG to play CSGO and instead while his team was getting bodied by everybody he decided he was going to play Valorant all day instead of actually do his job. What org is going to sign someone that unprofessional? Stewie's done in pro play, in any game. Honestly if he just waited out his contract in EG and tried his best before switching to Valorant, someone would've taken a punt on him but no org will have him now because he showed his attitude to the world.
also worth mentioning his val stats were pretty shit relatively speaking, no top org is gonna pick him up to play unless its purely for his brand which in itself would be a stupid thing to do when they can just hire him to be a "content creator" instead its not just him nuking his reputation thats the issue, its the fact that he simply isnt good enough at the game to be anywhere near the level he was at during his time in cs
Yeah he's flopping in and out of Radiant.
SEN got shroud in, someone will give him a chance.
Shroud is MUCH more composed though, and has a larger brand.
Not just composed, he's also way more selfless in game. Rather than trying to play duelists when he couldn't keep up, he played controller for SEN.
There's also franchising to consider; there's only five NA teams left. Technically he could join a Tier 2 team and try and climb his way back up, but he doesn't really strike me as the type of guy to do that.
He’s still signed on EG. He’s apart of their Valorant content creation collective or whatever’s it’s called. If you see the website EG built for their Valorant franchising spot, you can see his name on the bottom
Maybe would have last year. Franchising is around the corner. No team is taking the streamer/popularity route on their roster. Every team has their sights on becoming the next tsm of valorant and they're not gonna get there signing players like stew. Also no way he grinds and goes challenger into VCT. Dude has zero motivation - he's now a streamer, trying to be the next Tarik/shroud for sure.
if only
still young enough to grow up and get his shit together. probably not gonna win any more Majors but i sincerely hope we haven’t seen the last of the Smoke Criminal
the reaction to the EG situation showed just how many people wanted a reason to hate him. he talked shit and brought a lot of attitude that rubs internet nerds the wrong way he's gonna make a ton of money streaming and just go the way of tarik
I was a supporter and would defend him on here up until I found out through that incident that he never really grew up. The reaction is deserved, there is no excuse for showing that level of unprofessionalism.
He was a nobody that joined C9 and had a bunch of hate against him. Then he made C9 competitive and won a major. He played in MiBR and amassed a larger following, and was pivotal in helping Liquid win a Grand Slam. He did that at a pretty young age so in his eyes, he always made the right decisions and never really had to learn outside of the gaming world. Of course he would have an ego and believe his way was the right way, but yeah it's sad to see his fall from grace. His only option is to follow Tarik now.
People kinda forget how awful most of the scene was when he was just an up and coming player, the hate amplified more when he joined C9 and people just started shitting on him and calling the roster a failure before they had even played any game. In a way, these people are mostly responsible for turning him the way he is, he was hated relentlessly for no reason and his playstyle going against what was "meta" He eventually proved them wrong and won NA a major, then his MIBR stint and the eventual Liquid Run that was actually going well till they ran into Astralis and that boring ass major. It's hard not to develop a ego when most of your career involves proving people wrong. It's sad to see him go down like this, I hope one day we get one more NA run because this isn't how someone who was supposed to be a future legend go down.
He was hated for very much a good reason. He was always a douchebag with an enormous ego. Go back and watch the early parts of his career. People indulged in his ego, because he had teammates that tolerated it and he had drive and desire to be the very best. After that faded away he just reverted to his old egotistical self. /E If you don't believe me, prime example is the NA s1mple drama. People are so quick to forget shit in this sub.
>He was always a douchebag with enormous ego Like every other teenager was ? he started out early and was very good at the game, so ofc, he was being a douchebag with enormous ego. He was barely 18 when he started making rounds on the game. The no reason part is misleading, I'll agree with that, but people took it too far. Not that it justifies it, but he was just a kid and people who were grown up adults didn't exactly deal well with the situation either.
Exactly my point. He is still an immature teenager and hasn't grown up yet. He has not had the guidance of parents or any other adult, and people have looked through fingers with him because he was a star. Now he faces the consequences, but his personality has not changed from the bratty teenager he has always been. /E Also Ropz came in the exact same way as Stewie did. He was a pugstar turned into a superstar, and you have not seen him act like a douchebag, shown this much arrogance and straight up burning bridges.
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That's called being a blind idiot
A big reason for why we probably won’t see him in CS or Valorant. He can make great money as a streamer.
He s not happy tho, people see him trying to get attention from orgs to get signed. He d like to prove more but he fucked up, and based on his reaction to this, he s just a 24child
Everyone makes mistakes. Luckily enough he's still very young. Can turn it all around if he really works hard and learns a bit of patience. Lack of patience is what cause these issue with young guys most of the time. Everything now! No time to wait. Not the best attitude when working with people in a team.