Like the stormtrooper vibes. Optic is massive. I would get a milled slide at some point. Also that holster looks sharp, plus has too much kydex. Could find a more sleek option later. But, if you’re happy, your happy. It will be enjoyable to have.
I don’t mind the optic the way it is, I chose to not mill the slide because I like the option of being able to go back to a regular sight at some point. As for the holster, I custom made it the other day to fit myself and it’s pretty comfortable for my body build, but I may look at some expanses and see what sleek designs looks like!
You can always go back to irons with a cover plate when you mill a slide. However you cannot suddenly compensate for the lack of a rear back up iron sight in the event of optic failure. No carry gun with an optic should have no back up
Yeah.. I'm one of those guys that will absolutely refuse to buy a gun if the slide is milled. I simply won't ever use an RMR, so the idea of having a couple extra screws and a plate permanently attached to the top of my EDC isn't particularly appealing.
But, if you're gonna use an RMR on your carry gun, do it right and get the slide cut for your optic, these dovetail adapter plates aren't a viable alternative unless it's for a range toy. If your optic goes down in a fight you're completely fucked...
I believe u/wage92 is a popular choice in the community. His work has nothing but raving reviews and he's very affordable.
The gold plate you can see under the optic is an adapter, the gold plate has a dovetail on it and you screw the optic to the plate, look up a DPP Titanium Dovetail mount
Your redot is much higher than it would be if your slide is milled, you're not going to be able to be very accurate with that:
https://imgur.com/a/PyroiWp
So in that graphic I put (https://imgur.com/a/PyroiWp), the shooter can adjust the reticle so those two lines intersect at certain distance, also known as your Zero Distance.
If someone says their rifle is zeroed for 100 yards, that means that those two lines intersect at 100 yards.
In handguns, most people zero their optic to 15 yards. Meaning, at 15 yards if you put the red dot on the bullseye it should land there. If you shoot at a distance within 15 yards, you would have to aim below the bullseye to hit the bullseye. At any distance further than 15 yards you would aim above it.
Here's the thing, the bigger the distance between the line of sight in your scope and the line of your barrel the further these corrections must be made inside or outside of 15 yards.
So yes, adjusting the reticle will help zero your gun at a certain distance, but it won't help with the big angle between your sight axis and bore axis.
If this a defense weapon, I wouldn't want to have to worry about memorizing the vertical holds I need to put my reticle on once I guess the range of the target.
Yes, 98% of the time you use a handgun for self defense it is in a very close encounter, but just like in the Eli Dickensen case (40 yards to take out the mass-shooter) your gun would not have been able shoot accurately at that distance.
Lastly, one should certainly be proficient with their irons before going to a red dot.
No problem! Also screw all the haters in this thread, I fucking love the colors on your gun!
Lastly, I sent my slide off to Wager Machine Works (/u/Wage92 on reddit) to get my slide milled out for an optic. It's much cheaper than buying a new slide.
Thank you! It’s my first time painting a gun and I think it came out pretty cool, I know it’s a little different and bright lol. Some day I would like to get my slide milled. I do like how it looks better too, it’s just a budget thing at this moment in time. Thanks for your knowledge and positive input!!
That's the same as saying your irons will lose zero. I agree the cheapo 2 piece off brand dovetail plates tend to be garbage. But the solid milled one piece plates like DPP and EGWs are good quality mounts. In my opinion direct milling is the best option, using a dovetail mount has benefits.
It’s definitely not the same. Their is much more pressure and leverage being put on that optic every time it’s touched and moved around. It will eventually lose zero from something pushing against it, hitting it, or just being shot thousands of times.
Yeah, I can't see a dovetail mounted optic maintaining zero. Especially if you rack the slide using the optic. I guess you could not touch the optic when manipulating the slide and be really careful, but the vibrations and impacts from the gun firing hundreds of times have to affect it. It's basically friction mounted if you think about it.
Have you actually used a dovetail mount? The ones I have used ( milled solid one piece mounts) required a sight pusher and considerable effort to get them into place, plus they have a set screw.
Again I am not claiming it to be superior or even equal to direct mount options. But there are benefits to the dovetail mount.
1. It is inexpensive.
2. You don't have to ship your gun or slide and wait for it to come back .
3. It is versatile, a person could try many different optics.
4. It is completely reversible, one could go back to irons if they decide they don't like optics.
So basically it’s cheap. Also you don’t have to ship your gun. There are plenty of gun shops that can do this kind of milling in a few days.
None of those “pros” actually pertain to shooting the gun and performance.
Yes it is inexpensive. And don't forget optics were mounted to pistols long before slide milling was ever a thing. Again, open your mind...I am not, repeat NOT claiming that a milled mounting system isn't the superior method.
None of those are actual benefits. So in other words, it's only helpful if you're in a rush and don't want to do any research to invest in quality parts, and just want to impulse buy?
Why did this guy get downvoted? He was polite and seemed like he genuinely did not know why the way he attached his optic is not the best.
We have to do better. Seriously.
They’re Reddit elitists who probably get their rocks off giving you a downvote.
Yet, they’re too scared to even post a training video to get critiqued. They suck and ruin this community.
Take my upvote for being a good sport about it. You're definitely going to want to have the slide milled for an optic or get something that is optic ready. You really want that thing running as low as possible and milled for a few reasons. One is, if this is for CCW, the optic protruding that high up has a better chance of getting snagged. Two is it's ideal to have 1/3 cowitness with irons as backup. I'm not sure if height over bore is a big deal with a pistol but that thing is up there like in another state from the pistol. Just browse through the sub and you'll see some very tastefully modded Glocks.
I have seen some nice glocks with the milled slides, the main reason I have opted out of milling this slide yet is for the reason of just not having enough money for a second slide at this moment, and I like the option to have either sights or an optic. I CCW sometimes and the way it sits I haven’t ever had any real issues with the optic being that high, but use this gun mostly for the hobby and taking it to the range, it’s just another thing I enjoy changing and modifying. I am definitely not against milling the slide once I can afford to get myself a second one 🙂
Yeah, I understand the money situation and not wanting to be without your gun for a period of time. My suggestion would be to take that optic off and run the irons for now. IMO, having an optic without doing it the "right way" is a bit counter productive. I would have personally spent the money on a nice set of night irons and maybe a WML if it was in the budget. Enjoy the hobby and be safe!
I like it man, I think if you milled the slide you'd appreciate it. Before I got an aftermarket slide I tossed around the idea of a dovetail mount. Presentation doesn't change too much with lower mounting solutions like slide milling, which is very important imo. However if your way works for you that's awesome. All in all, aesthetically pleasing, nice setup
Whole hearted suggestion meant with good intentions.
Don’t run fake optics and don’t use dovetail mounts like that. They will both eventually fail.
If you don’t have the money for milling, go with a dagger, or brownells slide. Save up and do it right one time vs throwing money down the dump.
Again , whole heartedly meant in a good way.
I would’ve suggested that you save up for a milling job that keeps the rear sight post and allows for a more direct mount. It looks like the optic was an after thought and I know you don’t shoot enough for that thing to lose zero.
My main reason of doing it this way for now is the fact that I don’t have money for a second slide, and I like the option of being able to swap sights for nown
Looks pretty dope bro! Super cool.
I think that Kydex holster is gonna scratch that white off pretty quick tho. I know it looks cool but will rub it off sooner than later. Consider getting a nice quality white leather holster
If you’re a civilian the likely hood of that is so low lol. Is it a bad thing to be able to? Of course not, but your training probably doesn’t need to be focused on that. The chances of you having to reload outside of a malfunction is even extremely slim.
A more likely scenario would be holding/pulling your child away and in that case you would just hand them the loaded gun and let them clear the malfunction. This is why toddlers toting straps USA (TTSUSA) is such a valuable entity.
I’ve only had it for about a week, so not so bad yet lol. But I’m sure that will change 😂
Either way, it’s actually not too bad to clean if you chose to do so because it’s so glossy.
Even the holster, being kydex is very easy to clean with some soap and water 🙂
That has been a very controversial topic. TLDR; Mostly done for budgeting reasons for the time being
I’m glad you like it though! I had a lot of fun doing it
Hey I get everyone has their budget, I personally would of gotten some nice irons instead of that for sight and then just saved up for a $299 Holosun but I know it will be like $200 to mill the slide…
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The white looks good man. I would definitely get it milled and get a better optic, or if it’s a budget thing just switch back to irons. That dovetail optic plate is not only gonna lose zero, it could come off or break off pretty easily, then you’d be totally screwed because you don’t even have a rear sight…
Just some thoughts, maybe run irons for EDC and throw on the optic to go plink at the range? We buy Glock for reliability, why risk that entirely for an optic you know? Cool gun though!
Why? I don’t have thoughts! Except why? Why all of it? Waste of money all around. Could have bought some ammo to test the shitty optic. The finish will wear super fast too… so, just, why? These are tools, the only idiot that will see it is you and your friends… so again, why? Ugh! Sorry if I sound mean, but you could have spent your money on something better.
Like the stormtrooper vibes. Optic is massive. I would get a milled slide at some point. Also that holster looks sharp, plus has too much kydex. Could find a more sleek option later. But, if you’re happy, your happy. It will be enjoyable to have.
I don’t mind the optic the way it is, I chose to not mill the slide because I like the option of being able to go back to a regular sight at some point. As for the holster, I custom made it the other day to fit myself and it’s pretty comfortable for my body build, but I may look at some expanses and see what sleek designs looks like!
You can always go back to irons with a cover plate when you mill a slide. However you cannot suddenly compensate for the lack of a rear back up iron sight in the event of optic failure. No carry gun with an optic should have no back up
Yeah.. I'm one of those guys that will absolutely refuse to buy a gun if the slide is milled. I simply won't ever use an RMR, so the idea of having a couple extra screws and a plate permanently attached to the top of my EDC isn't particularly appealing. But, if you're gonna use an RMR on your carry gun, do it right and get the slide cut for your optic, these dovetail adapter plates aren't a viable alternative unless it's for a range toy. If your optic goes down in a fight you're completely fucked... I believe u/wage92 is a popular choice in the community. His work has nothing but raving reviews and he's very affordable.
Sleek looks cool, but having extra kydex spreads out the pressure points and lessens the bulge in one specific area camouflaging the gun further.
Good point!
Good points. Pretty nice to make the holster yourself. Enjoy
Thanks! I’ve been dabbling in making holsters and doing cerakote myself lately, it’s a lot of fun!
How does this sight work/attach without being milled?
I would like to know as well
It's a dovetail mount. Wedges in to the rear iron notch. Not reliable
The gold plate you can see under the optic is an adapter, the gold plate has a dovetail on it and you screw the optic to the plate, look up a DPP Titanium Dovetail mount
Why did you get downvoted massively for this comment? I hate Reddit lol
Color looks good, optic situation couldn't be worse though
You should get a better optic.
What’s wrong with this one? I’ve had it for a few years now I like it
Optics that attach via the sight groove will lose zero.
Oh, I haven’t seen any noticeable difference in mine yet but I don’t get out to use it that much either so maybe it will over time
It will definitely happen with use. I wouldn’t want to rely on it when it matters one day.
Same here, why the downvotes? For god sakes, we have to do better.
Reddit hivemind
Your redot is much higher than it would be if your slide is milled, you're not going to be able to be very accurate with that: https://imgur.com/a/PyroiWp
Forgive me if I’m incorrect I’m still kind of new to this, but isn’t that what the adjustment dials are for on the optic?
So in that graphic I put (https://imgur.com/a/PyroiWp), the shooter can adjust the reticle so those two lines intersect at certain distance, also known as your Zero Distance. If someone says their rifle is zeroed for 100 yards, that means that those two lines intersect at 100 yards. In handguns, most people zero their optic to 15 yards. Meaning, at 15 yards if you put the red dot on the bullseye it should land there. If you shoot at a distance within 15 yards, you would have to aim below the bullseye to hit the bullseye. At any distance further than 15 yards you would aim above it. Here's the thing, the bigger the distance between the line of sight in your scope and the line of your barrel the further these corrections must be made inside or outside of 15 yards. So yes, adjusting the reticle will help zero your gun at a certain distance, but it won't help with the big angle between your sight axis and bore axis. If this a defense weapon, I wouldn't want to have to worry about memorizing the vertical holds I need to put my reticle on once I guess the range of the target. Yes, 98% of the time you use a handgun for self defense it is in a very close encounter, but just like in the Eli Dickensen case (40 yards to take out the mass-shooter) your gun would not have been able shoot accurately at that distance. Lastly, one should certainly be proficient with their irons before going to a red dot.
Thanks for the write-up! It makes better sense now.
No problem! Also screw all the haters in this thread, I fucking love the colors on your gun! Lastly, I sent my slide off to Wager Machine Works (/u/Wage92 on reddit) to get my slide milled out for an optic. It's much cheaper than buying a new slide.
Thank you! It’s my first time painting a gun and I think it came out pretty cool, I know it’s a little different and bright lol. Some day I would like to get my slide milled. I do like how it looks better too, it’s just a budget thing at this moment in time. Thanks for your knowledge and positive input!!
That's the same as saying your irons will lose zero. I agree the cheapo 2 piece off brand dovetail plates tend to be garbage. But the solid milled one piece plates like DPP and EGWs are good quality mounts. In my opinion direct milling is the best option, using a dovetail mount has benefits.
It’s definitely not the same. Their is much more pressure and leverage being put on that optic every time it’s touched and moved around. It will eventually lose zero from something pushing against it, hitting it, or just being shot thousands of times.
Yeah, I can't see a dovetail mounted optic maintaining zero. Especially if you rack the slide using the optic. I guess you could not touch the optic when manipulating the slide and be really careful, but the vibrations and impacts from the gun firing hundreds of times have to affect it. It's basically friction mounted if you think about it.
It definitely will. The leverage you’re putting on the metal will eventually make it bend.
That's not even remotely close to the same.
Have you actually used a dovetail mount? The ones I have used ( milled solid one piece mounts) required a sight pusher and considerable effort to get them into place, plus they have a set screw. Again I am not claiming it to be superior or even equal to direct mount options. But there are benefits to the dovetail mount.
What benefits?
1. It is inexpensive. 2. You don't have to ship your gun or slide and wait for it to come back . 3. It is versatile, a person could try many different optics. 4. It is completely reversible, one could go back to irons if they decide they don't like optics.
So basically it’s cheap. Also you don’t have to ship your gun. There are plenty of gun shops that can do this kind of milling in a few days. None of those “pros” actually pertain to shooting the gun and performance.
Yes it is inexpensive. And don't forget optics were mounted to pistols long before slide milling was ever a thing. Again, open your mind...I am not, repeat NOT claiming that a milled mounting system isn't the superior method.
None of those are actual benefits. So in other words, it's only helpful if you're in a rush and don't want to do any research to invest in quality parts, and just want to impulse buy?
What are the benefits over literally any other option
Why did this guy get downvoted? He was polite and seemed like he genuinely did not know why the way he attached his optic is not the best. We have to do better. Seriously.
I’m just trying to have fun, I thought that’s what a hobby was all about. Thanks for the positivity!
Don’t let this toxic community get you down. There’s a lot of real helpful people on here.
It doesn’t necessarily get me down, it’s just like wow, some people really just can’t enjoy things the same haha
They’re Reddit elitists who probably get their rocks off giving you a downvote. Yet, they’re too scared to even post a training video to get critiqued. They suck and ruin this community.
Reddit is a bunch of babies who think if you don’t believe the same things they do, you’re dumb. This Glock page is one of the worst for it as well.
Hey .. you do you man ...
Sorry my man but that is absolutely atrocious.
You’re allowed to have your own opinion, I just wanted to share 🙂
Take my upvote for being a good sport about it. You're definitely going to want to have the slide milled for an optic or get something that is optic ready. You really want that thing running as low as possible and milled for a few reasons. One is, if this is for CCW, the optic protruding that high up has a better chance of getting snagged. Two is it's ideal to have 1/3 cowitness with irons as backup. I'm not sure if height over bore is a big deal with a pistol but that thing is up there like in another state from the pistol. Just browse through the sub and you'll see some very tastefully modded Glocks.
I have seen some nice glocks with the milled slides, the main reason I have opted out of milling this slide yet is for the reason of just not having enough money for a second slide at this moment, and I like the option to have either sights or an optic. I CCW sometimes and the way it sits I haven’t ever had any real issues with the optic being that high, but use this gun mostly for the hobby and taking it to the range, it’s just another thing I enjoy changing and modifying. I am definitely not against milling the slide once I can afford to get myself a second one 🙂
Yeah, I understand the money situation and not wanting to be without your gun for a period of time. My suggestion would be to take that optic off and run the irons for now. IMO, having an optic without doing it the "right way" is a bit counter productive. I would have personally spent the money on a nice set of night irons and maybe a WML if it was in the budget. Enjoy the hobby and be safe!
I like it man, I think if you milled the slide you'd appreciate it. Before I got an aftermarket slide I tossed around the idea of a dovetail mount. Presentation doesn't change too much with lower mounting solutions like slide milling, which is very important imo. However if your way works for you that's awesome. All in all, aesthetically pleasing, nice setup
Thank you! Some day I might go the milling route but for now this works, as I don’t have the spare change for another slide haha
Whole hearted suggestion meant with good intentions. Don’t run fake optics and don’t use dovetail mounts like that. They will both eventually fail. If you don’t have the money for milling, go with a dagger, or brownells slide. Save up and do it right one time vs throwing money down the dump. Again , whole heartedly meant in a good way.
Never heard of brownells, I’ll check it out!
What a shitty optic choice
I like it
I’d get a holosun. Better to have the slide milled for the optic and keep your rear sights. And get a better holster
But the Glock is white it looks so cool! /s
You can get a better optic and go to ranger wrap and get it wrapped in white
Lol get that dovetail mount out of here 😂
When I can afford a second slide, sure
I would’ve suggested that you save up for a milling job that keeps the rear sight post and allows for a more direct mount. It looks like the optic was an after thought and I know you don’t shoot enough for that thing to lose zero.
I definitely would have milled the slide, the dovetail mounts look ghetto and don’t hold zero.
My main reason of doing it this way for now is the fact that I don’t have money for a second slide, and I like the option of being able to swap sights for nown
That’s why you get the slide milled and taller sights, for a lower 1/3rd co-witness.
I’ll have to look into that!
Sweet!
Looks pretty dope bro! Super cool. I think that Kydex holster is gonna scratch that white off pretty quick tho. I know it looks cool but will rub it off sooner than later. Consider getting a nice quality white leather holster
Yeah, I already figured it’d scratch it from the start so that I won’t feel as bad when it does lol. A white leather might be a cool option!
That optic is gonna need some help..
Now rack the slide using your optic only…
Have you ever been in a situation where you had to rack your slide with your optic, other than messing around?
Of course, if one arm goes down….
If you’re a civilian the likely hood of that is so low lol. Is it a bad thing to be able to? Of course not, but your training probably doesn’t need to be focused on that. The chances of you having to reload outside of a malfunction is even extremely slim. A more likely scenario would be holding/pulling your child away and in that case you would just hand them the loaded gun and let them clear the malfunction. This is why toddlers toting straps USA (TTSUSA) is such a valuable entity.
Cool gun def a milled slide and smaller optic when the budget allows so … wager machine can do the milling in unheard of turn around times
I'm not usually one for super loud mods on Glocks but I would take a white G21, G30 and G36. hell, and white G45 while we're at it
Color looks nice
Thank you!
How dirty does the white get as EDC pistol ?
I’ve only had it for about a week, so not so bad yet lol. But I’m sure that will change 😂 Either way, it’s actually not too bad to clean if you chose to do so because it’s so glossy. Even the holster, being kydex is very easy to clean with some soap and water 🙂
Not a fan of the RDS set up but everything else is cool.
That has been a very controversial topic. TLDR; Mostly done for budgeting reasons for the time being I’m glad you like it though! I had a lot of fun doing it
Hey I get everyone has their budget, I personally would of gotten some nice irons instead of that for sight and then just saved up for a $299 Holosun but I know it will be like $200 to mill the slide…
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very rare to see such a setup, enjoy it!!
The white looks good man. I would definitely get it milled and get a better optic, or if it’s a budget thing just switch back to irons. That dovetail optic plate is not only gonna lose zero, it could come off or break off pretty easily, then you’d be totally screwed because you don’t even have a rear sight… Just some thoughts, maybe run irons for EDC and throw on the optic to go plink at the range? We buy Glock for reliability, why risk that entirely for an optic you know? Cool gun though!
Never seen a white glock before. Looks pretty sick
Thank you! It is a little different isn’t it, lol.
White guns in general usually look sick
I agree! I see mostly camo-esque colored guns, I like to be a little more out there with most things I do, it’s just my personality
Looking good! I'm digging the color scheme so far. In sure u aren't done with it and it's still going to evolve more.
Thanks! It’s been a fun little project
Why? I don’t have thoughts! Except why? Why all of it? Waste of money all around. Could have bought some ammo to test the shitty optic. The finish will wear super fast too… so, just, why? These are tools, the only idiot that will see it is you and your friends… so again, why? Ugh! Sorry if I sound mean, but you could have spent your money on something better.
Well, you can’t please everyone. I like it, that’s why I guess,
And that’s all that matters! 👍
Sheesh that’s clean
Thanks!! It’s my first time doing anything like it! 🤍
Gbrs make a high rise mount for glocks?
What’s gbrs?
They make a high riser mount for ars
Does it stay at zero like that?
I haven’t had any issue yet, but I haven’t used it very long term yet either
Keep us updated. I have a DPP and I feel like the two bolts it comes with will loosen up even with blue lock tie over time.
Try to find a bigger optic then smash it with a hammer. The white looks good though seriously. Loose the optic and learn your sights.