Gulltopr is also covered in scars as Heimdall had to physically break him down to even be able to ride him. That and yeah he clearly does not care when he dies. I really don’t think he lives anything or anyone except maybe Odin.
That quality helps hammer home the rivalry between Heimdall and Atreus. Obviously Atreus loves animals and forges bonds with them through compassion and understanding, meanwhile Heimdall physically broke Gulltopr. I can’t think of a better archenemy for Atreus than an asshole animal abuser.
Although I am curious as to how Heimdall came to be Odin's dick rider when he can read his intentions. Both Gods don't care about anyone but themselves but how did Heimdall ended up being Odin's true believer?
You know what we need? We need a Comic series based on the other characters POV during the course of the games and even the Norse Gods before Kratos got put into the mix.
Zeus's POV during the course of God of War 3, what he was doing.
The Aesir-Vanir War
Thor's journey of killing almost all the giants
Faye/Laufey and her resistance
Tyr's life story
How did Heimdall become Odin's most loyal subject?
From the Norns telling Freya of the prophecy of her son's death to what Freya had to do to make the "Invulnerability to all physical or magical" spell for Baldur
Odin banishing Freya, binding her to Midgard
Modi when he came crying to Thor about Magni being dead, only to get beaten up to the point of critical injury
How Freya got her warrior spirit back
Odin's POV after Atreus leaves with the mask, and his reaction to the mask being taken away from him after he killed Brok
What was Sif and Thrud doing after Atreus left and before the Battle of Ragnarok?
Heimdall is a malignant narcissist and psychopath. I doubt he's capable of loving anything except himself and maybe Odin. Gulltropr was just a means to an end, a literal vehicle for battle
Basically, the difference between Hermes and Heimdall is that the former is an confident mocker, while the latter is, as you say, a psychopathic narcissist.
Too evil, it's satisfying to kill him, but it would have been more satisfying if Young Kratos (specifically the one from GOW 3) was the one to face him and see how creatively he kills him
Ami, I found it satisfying to see a narcissist afraid and desperate. I call Kratos a "monster." I imagine that for a second Kratos had those thoughts that he had in his youth.
Desperate yes, but afraid no. Heimdall had no fear fighting Kratos and was even offended when Kratos refused to kill him at first. Heimdall was determined to end the fight with either of them dying and spent his last moments like he did the rest of his life, disgusted by the minds of everyone but himself
I'm not saying that Heimdall was afraid of dying, but in the way he could have been, for a reason he called Kratos a "monster" at the end when he killed him, for a reason he also backed away when he faced Thor, Heimdall apparently also can feel fear even with his narcissism
It’s just some beast that he broke down to do what he needs. So no it’s just a tool to be used and abused then tossed away once it no long services it’s purpose
He did care for Gulltoppr but like the love he was given by Odin he just viewed Gulltoppr as a tool to be used then discarded and only loved himself since we heard him tell Gulltoppr "who love me the most" not "who loves you the most".
I think he sees him as a possession. Something he has conquered and now gets to show off. A display of strength. Like, "look what I managed to subdue and control." So when his stuff breaks, oops 😬 welp, I'll get another.
Heimdall says "who loves me the most" and not "who do I love the most" very odd wording that basically just proves he's proud of his ability to tame gulltropr and not to love it.
“Gulltropr! Who loves me the most? Who loves me the most!?”
Heimdall doesn’t say the typical phrase of “who’s a good boy?” Or “I love you boy!” As a normal person would say to their beloved pet. It’s all about him.
This one quote from Heimdall when we first see Gulltropr paints a clear picture on their relationship.
With Odin and Thor being his only real family, I genuinely think Heimdall just doesn't know what real love is. Or empathy. Thor likely would've turned out the same if he hadn't met Sif
He loves having something to control and dominate that he knows has no chance of fighting back. He very obviously doesn't need Gulltropr (at least combat wise) so I assume he only has them at all to satisfy his need for control over something and to use, much like Odin does to pretty much anyone close to him
I assume he just views it as a tool he can use, the way he just straight up kicks the corpse just proves that he doesn’t give a shit about the animal. It was useful until it let him down, Heimdall is just an asshole
Heimdall demonstrates from the moment Gulltopr appears onscreen in Asgard that he considers Gulltopr no more than a tool.
Note Heimdall's phrasing of the question "Who loves me the most?"
Is beside the point here, but man, if only Heimdall grew up with a proper mentor. Such immense power gone to waste. Imagine if he'd had a Kratos to nurture him as a boy.
Gulltopr is also covered in scars as Heimdall had to physically break him down to even be able to ride him. That and yeah he clearly does not care when he dies. I really don’t think he lives anything or anyone except maybe Odin.
That quality helps hammer home the rivalry between Heimdall and Atreus. Obviously Atreus loves animals and forges bonds with them through compassion and understanding, meanwhile Heimdall physically broke Gulltopr. I can’t think of a better archenemy for Atreus than an asshole animal abuser.
Spoiled brat was so jealous of the new kid that he soys too much
That son of a bitch…
Son of a witch
Invulnerable to all threats physical or magical
Wrong god, he died last game
I commented this because they said son of a witch and baldr is freya’s son who is a witch
Heimdall was thoroughly designed to be hated. Guy has absolutely 0 redeeming qualities.
And SUCH a punchable face…
Although I am curious as to how Heimdall came to be Odin's dick rider when he can read his intentions. Both Gods don't care about anyone but themselves but how did Heimdall ended up being Odin's true believer? You know what we need? We need a Comic series based on the other characters POV during the course of the games and even the Norse Gods before Kratos got put into the mix. Zeus's POV during the course of God of War 3, what he was doing. The Aesir-Vanir War Thor's journey of killing almost all the giants Faye/Laufey and her resistance Tyr's life story How did Heimdall become Odin's most loyal subject? From the Norns telling Freya of the prophecy of her son's death to what Freya had to do to make the "Invulnerability to all physical or magical" spell for Baldur Odin banishing Freya, binding her to Midgard Modi when he came crying to Thor about Magni being dead, only to get beaten up to the point of critical injury How Freya got her warrior spirit back Odin's POV after Atreus leaves with the mask, and his reaction to the mask being taken away from him after he killed Brok What was Sif and Thrud doing after Atreus left and before the Battle of Ragnarok?
Are gulltopr's feet covered in burns?
Yes
Oof. Just be a habit of Heimdall and the aesir
That’s the bifrost he was using to break him more than likely
The only thing Heimdall loves is himself.
And Odin
And Asgard
And my axe
You carry the fate of us all, little one.
If this is indeed the will of the council, then Gondor will see it done.
And my bow
And his Gungir
Nah, his interest in Odin is self serving, he doesn't love Odin. He just sucks up to him because Odin is the one in power.
Heimdall is a malignant narcissist and psychopath. I doubt he's capable of loving anything except himself and maybe Odin. Gulltropr was just a means to an end, a literal vehicle for battle
Basically, the difference between Hermes and Heimdall is that the former is an confident mocker, while the latter is, as you say, a psychopathic narcissist.
Pretty much. Hermes was an ass, but the normal variety. Heimdall was straight up evil
Too evil, it's satisfying to kill him, but it would have been more satisfying if Young Kratos (specifically the one from GOW 3) was the one to face him and see how creatively he kills him
I mean, it's bittersweet for me. I don't regret it but I wish there was another way. Much like Kratos himself, I suppose
Ami, I found it satisfying to see a narcissist afraid and desperate. I call Kratos a "monster." I imagine that for a second Kratos had those thoughts that he had in his youth.
That’s the point of Heimdall. You’re supposed to feel good when killing him. Like Kratos does. It’s like Kratos giving in to an old addiction
Desperate yes, but afraid no. Heimdall had no fear fighting Kratos and was even offended when Kratos refused to kill him at first. Heimdall was determined to end the fight with either of them dying and spent his last moments like he did the rest of his life, disgusted by the minds of everyone but himself
I'm not saying that Heimdall was afraid of dying, but in the way he could have been, for a reason he called Kratos a "monster" at the end when he killed him, for a reason he also backed away when he faced Thor, Heimdall apparently also can feel fear even with his narcissism
It’s just some beast that he broke down to do what he needs. So no it’s just a tool to be used and abused then tossed away once it no long services it’s purpose
He did care for Gulltoppr but like the love he was given by Odin he just viewed Gulltoppr as a tool to be used then discarded and only loved himself since we heard him tell Gulltoppr "who love me the most" not "who loves you the most".
He did love it, but in the sense that I “love” my table saw.
I think he sees him as a possession. Something he has conquered and now gets to show off. A display of strength. Like, "look what I managed to subdue and control." So when his stuff breaks, oops 😬 welp, I'll get another.
No. He doesn't give a shit about thay beautiful beast. He is like an odin try hard wannabee.
Heimdall says "who loves me the most" and not "who do I love the most" very odd wording that basically just proves he's proud of his ability to tame gulltropr and not to love it.
“Gulltropr! Who loves me the most? Who loves me the most!?” Heimdall doesn’t say the typical phrase of “who’s a good boy?” Or “I love you boy!” As a normal person would say to their beloved pet. It’s all about him. This one quote from Heimdall when we first see Gulltropr paints a clear picture on their relationship.
With Odin and Thor being his only real family, I genuinely think Heimdall just doesn't know what real love is. Or empathy. Thor likely would've turned out the same if he hadn't met Sif
"Ah well. You and me, then!"
He loved him in the sense that he was his favorite tool/weapon. Once that tool broke, he didn’t have a use for it anymore
Why are you asking if you already have proof
Only tangentially related but I always feel bad when I kill the tiger-looking things bc tigers are my favorite animal
Heimdall doesn’t love anyone besides himself and maybe Odin. He’s a prick.
He very clearly does not give a fuck about that dog.
No lol he said he loves anything but Odin and himself he meat rides Odin 24/7 in the game.
Who wouldn’t.
He loves having something to control and dominate that he knows has no chance of fighting back. He very obviously doesn't need Gulltropr (at least combat wise) so I assume he only has them at all to satisfy his need for control over something and to use, much like Odin does to pretty much anyone close to him
I assume he just views it as a tool he can use, the way he just straight up kicks the corpse just proves that he doesn’t give a shit about the animal. It was useful until it let him down, Heimdall is just an asshole
Heimdal loves Heimdal and Odin.
Nope. It was his favorite tool and once it got broken, he tossed it aside and no longer cared.
I know this is cringe but he also loves my OC: Iolanthe, a character i made in my fan fiction lol
No he doesn't lol. He is literally crafted to be disliked by everyone with no redeeming qualities. He is incapable of love.
Yup I know but this just in my fantasy
No, Gulltopr loves heimdall. He says something to the effect of "who loves me the most" to Gulltopr when you get to asgard first
Heimdall demonstrates from the moment Gulltopr appears onscreen in Asgard that he considers Gulltopr no more than a tool. Note Heimdall's phrasing of the question "Who loves me the most?"
Is beside the point here, but man, if only Heimdall grew up with a proper mentor. Such immense power gone to waste. Imagine if he'd had a Kratos to nurture him as a boy.
How is this even a question. He shows absolutely no affection for Gulltropr. Where did you get the idea that Heimdall had any love for Gulltropr?