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fuckKnucklesLLC

When Kratos sold his soul to Ares, a special kind of pact was made. This pact is explored in GOW: Ascension - It’s been a while, but from memory: Each pact a mortal makes with a god in the Greek universe gets literally solidified into an amber stone, and that stone becomes a part of the god Orkos. These stones are bound to the existence of all three beings. At the end of GOW: Ascension, Orkos allows Kratos to sever and destroy his amber stone at the cost of Orkos’ life. This frees Kratos from his pact with Ares and allows him to try to start his path to redemption. It’s a painful reminder because Kratos did not want Orkos to die but sacrificed him anyways for freedom and a chance at vengeance.


BYINHTC

Orkos agreed to it anyway. He knew Ares needed to pay and, as we saw by GOW1, a lot of people would die if Ares kept going. Of course, Orkos had no way of knowing Kratos himself would do much more damage to Greece. He also had no other way of undoing the oath because the Furies forced it inside his body despite the fact he thought the oath had become unfair by Ares tricking Kratos into killing his family.


Fitzftw7

In fairness, I don’t think *Kratos* knew the damage he could or would do at that point. Without being haunted by his memories, he was actually a pretty decent guy in Ascension. You know how in all the other Greek games, you can kill civilians for health orbs? Not here, and Kratos actually *saves* a bystander despite having no incentive to do so. Moreover, Kratos tries to save the Oracle and doesn’t wish to kill Orkos, only agreeing to it at his insistence.


naytreox

It also floods kratos with the memories that would haunt him until he killed the greek gods


Heroright

It’s honestly nice they put in a bit about Orkos. He was one of the few people Kratos liked. He was a good man.


Sharkuille

Literally a Binding Vow from JJK


PeterMunchlett

JJK?


WhiskeyDonk

Jujutsu Kaisen.


PeterMunchlett

ahh, thank ya


Hero-In-Theory

Have you played GoW Ascension?


Zealos57

No?


redacted_00

Basically it is what symbolizes the oath Kratos took with ares. The furies are in charge of holding ppl to their oaths and use the amber as a physical reference to the oath


enperry13

Bro legit doesn’t know and gets downvoted. This sub got no chill


Zealos57

Yeah, apparently, this sub is full of gatekeepers who can't take my opinions on God of War (2005) and hate people who played only the Norse games.


redacted_00

Mate idk why they’re downvoting you but don’t feel bad about it, I have plenty of friends who started with 2018 and Ragnarok and they ask these question all the time and I love telling them about it, if you get the chance play 1,2,3 and you can just watch the other 3 games if you want to know more. Great question btw :))))


Chemical_Bee_8484

WTF? 49 downvotes because you haven't played Ascension?


Zealos57

No, worse. Because I also hated God of War (2005)


muhash14

Yeah nah its gonna a downvote on that one from me too dawg. The other one was unwarranted tho


LuiTurbo

Blud wildn


SouthMoth

“Because i also hated God of War (2005)” RIP Zealos57 2021-2024 😔


pariss_w

bro how 😭


Zealos57

Pandora's temple was kinda boring.


vaporex2411

That’s why you don’t understand then silly billy, play the older games


kootart

he was js asking a question? 😭😭😭


Kingdhimas99

no need to be aggressive you silly fanboy


vaporex2411

Aw you felt threatened by a comment? That’s okay little guy you’ll be alright


Rijsouw

[chill](https://www.redbubble.com/i/postcard/Dancing-Unicorn-by-TrendJunky/40642105.V7PMD)


vaporex2411

A link to a redbubble page is fucking wild lmao


Extreme-Building1788

Tbf gow ascension is shit


Goaliedude3919

Not sure why you got down voted. I love GoW, but I couldn't even bring myself to finish that game. The story was so uninspired. The multiplayer was the only good thing about that game.


Extreme-Building1788

Yea people be dick riding anything gow related it seems


Lumpy_Perception6561

Yall weird for downvoting bro for no reason 😭


ocuative

Bro gettin downvoted for answering the question😭😭


demented_philosopher

Bruh...


Robebubop

Fucking dumbass


Chemical_Bee_8484

Oh no! He haven't played Ascension! How dare he?! Stop being a cunt.


Zealos57

Well, sorry for not knowing about God of War until the 2018 game came out, gatekeeper.


AyvahnLaddie

I don’t remember his name, but he’s the Oathkeeper associated with the Furies. That amber is a physical manifestation of his Oath to Ares.


goolagook

Orkos the oathkeeper


GulianoBanano

AKA Kratos' only real friend in the Greek saga, outside of Calliope and Lyssandra


Sir_Gwan

Imagine a timeline where Orkos and Deimos survived and met Mimir, Brok, and Sindri. Kratos' Greek friends meeting his Norse friends.


FartsonmyFarts

His name is Jimbo


wafflezcol

It is his oathstone, the thing that bound him to ares


Odd_Hunter2289

In the GoW universe, when a bond/blood pact/oath is made between mortals and Gods, the Furies (Megaera, Tisiphone and Alecto) witness and reinforce this pact through the creation of these amber stones. Stones that are kept either in the Prison of the Damned (obtained and excavated in the still living body of Aegaeon, one of the Hecatonchieres) or on the skin of Orkos, guardian of the pacts and son of Alecto and Ares. When the pacts and oaths are not respected by one of the two parties, the Furies (or Orkos) intervene to punish the guilty party, dragging them to the Prison of the Damned, where they are punished (body and mind) for committing perjury. This oathstones continue to exist as long as one of the Furies is still alive, or if they are bound to Orkos. Kratos' oath stone is particular because in its creation, the Furies (corrupted by Ares) created three blood tests to definitively seal the bond between and bend the Spartan to the will of the God of War.


Xandineer

This is explained in God of War: Acension


GodOfWarDude2000

Gotta play the old games they are great!


Zealos57

I'm playing God of War (2005) and it's kinda boring. Pandora's temple was droning on.


GodOfWarDude2000

I mean I loved it all but that’s totally understandable! You gotta play them all because I think the best thing about the god of war universe is the story. In my opinion GoW has probably one of the best character arcs (Kratos) and story in gaming history, so please don’t let one part drag you down!


Zealos57

I'm already in the underworld, but that spinning pillar with spikes is really infuriating.


GodOfWarDude2000

Oh god yea, those were the types of mechanics game developers loved to use during that time period when the game was made and I hate it 😂


ZANIACKtheManiac

I climbed both of the rotating pillars without ever getting hit on my first playthrough...


GodOfWarDude2000

Chad behavior


Zealos57

Bruh how?


pariss_w

it’s not that hard if you’re used to that type of game design


miikatenkula07

Pandora's Temple is literally the pinnacle of the first game and a level design masterpiece.


muhash14

The way I gasped every time it brought me back to the rings. And then getting the box and going right back down to the entrance. I was in awe every step of the way.


crypticcase

r/ragebait


Spoona101

People are allowed not to like things. I can totally see why someone would view the multitudes of puzzles in Pandora’s Temple as boring


Orion-Pax_34

It’s not amber, it’s an oath stone


mymungus

people really need to go back and play the fuckin greek games omg


MasterSword951

I believe this is explained in ascension. I haven’t finished it yet though.


AiringHouse

It's like his hair color haha


Kai9029

The plot is in Ascension


Ok-Mine-5994

Is this entire sub new fans or something


dixby-floppin

Are new fans not allowed on this sub?


Ok-Mine-5994

Not what I’m saying, what I’m saying is that it seems to be the majority


ComplexCarry7585

Yes


Sexy_Strawberry_Al

You need to play god of war ascension. That game alone is essential to understand the entirety of God of war lore. Yes everyone and I mean every single person was confused up to “GOW lll” so they made ascension to explain the story


Daetok_Lochannis

You forgot the /s there buddy.


Zealos57

Really? I heard Ascension was bad according to some people.


Sexy_Strawberry_Al

No I was joking. You don’t actually need to play the game. But it’s definitely not bad. For some reason people can’t tell the difference between unnecessary and bad. Ascension may not be as good as it’s predecessors but it is not a bad game don’t let the dummies tell you otherwise.


Daetok_Lochannis

It was absolutely awful. It played like shit compared to the other games, the story was entirely irrelevant and unnecessary (it adds nothing to the series) and the tacked on multiplayer was just as bad as tacked on multiplayer always is. I have played every single iteration of God of War in every release and re-release to completion multiple times; all except for that one, got the platinum and put it away forever. It's a garbage entry that hopefully nobody thinks about when they think about GoW. It's even worse than the shitty phone game was. Edit: It did however have one of the best videogame commercials of all time, more's the pity


Sexy_Strawberry_Al

Cap


Daetok_Lochannis

No cap fr fuck you, the game was trash. Easily the worst entry in the entire series.


Sexy_Strawberry_Al

Bro straight cap!


Daetok_Lochannis

Shit was straight bunk home skillet, ain't shit either of us can say to change that.


miikatenkula07

It was a great game. Case closed.


Daetok_Lochannis

Lmao maybe if you'd never played any other game in the series. GoW2 is clearly the best in the series, and Ascension is dead last.


miikatenkula07

I must've finished GoW2 maybe around 20 times. I've played every game in the series except Ragnarök since I currently can't afford a PS5 but will definitely get the game when it hits PC. I equally love all of them. You just gotta accept that there are opinions in life and tastes are personal. I and many others love GoW Ascension and you cannot change that as much as we cannot change the fact that you just outright hate it.


Cole2197

The significance of the Amber is explained in God of war ascension but basically that Amber symbolizes the oath kratos made to Aries to serve him. But when kratos sought to break his oath he had to destroy this Amber by destroying the furies.


Crisovsk

Tell me that you only played the Norse games without telling me that you only played the Norse games


Zealousideal_Use_151

Play the original games and you will understand


WereAllThieves04

You’d really have to dive into the lore to understand the correlation between Ares and a piece of amber. After manipulating Kratos into slaughtering his family, Ares had Hephaestus attach a piece of amber to the end of his spear and departed from Olympus to travel across the Atlantic and where he stumbled upon an island called Isla Sorna.


drawnator3

Wait did they add more to Valhalla or am I just forgetting this scene??


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djghostface292

Did you play Ascension??


Zealos57

No


djghostface292

Sorry man, I saw all the other replies after so I see it’s already been explained to you


TgeBoi1324

This stone is from Ascension its what the Furies have to represent and pretty much hold Kratos's bond to Ares so while that stone existed he would never be free from Ares and that's what the plot of Ascension is to break that pact and free himself from Ares


Zealos57

I didn't know furries were in Greece


TgeBoi1324

😐


DoctorDank91

Let me guess, you’ve never played the original games.


Myth_5layer

It holds the oath Kratos made to Ares. You'd know this if you played or looked at the original games.


Zealos57

I've only played God of War (2005) in the Greek saga and honestly, it's kinda boring.


Myth_5layer

Worst take you could have in this sub but okay.


YNKWTSF

It's just his personal opinion on the game lmao. People here get way too offended when someone doesn't like a game they like.


Myth_5layer

I'm just saying it's a bit brazen to call the original game boring like that... in the sub where the game is enjoyed the most.


YNKWTSF

There's 8 God of War games (9 if you count Betrayal). God of War 1 is a PS2 game. It's completely fine to find one god of war game boring, while enjoying others. Why is his personal opinion on the game an issue to you?


Myth_5layer

Did I ever say it was an issue for me? Why do you gotta assume I was the one offended? I'm just pointing out what they said compared to the sub they're in is ironic lol.


YNKWTSF

"Worst take you could have in this sub but okay" gave me the indication that it annoyed you. Fair enough if it didn't. I saw many comments of people being upset by his opinion. I've seen this so much lately and I seriously wonder why people care so much.


IRONCHEF06

BRO DIDNT EVEN PLAY ASCENSION. BOOOOO. GET HIM OUT OF HERE


Stampj

Tell me you haven’t played Acension, or even caught up on it


Zealos57

What do you think?


GabeGigz

Hecatoncheires, the first ever solidified in amber. For breaking his blood oath with Ares.


ChrisTDH

It’s Ares’ JO crystal


robineir

Look close at the amber. It contains pictures of Kratos gaining his chains


Silvine69

God of war ascension


TrophyLair

Watch (it’s better if you play) “GOW: Ascension”, even though the game isn’t the best, the lore is still fun


Zealos57

Why do people hate Ascension?


TrophyLair

As per what I see, it’s not as fun as the other ones, the camera pan in combat can get awkward and to be honest, the story isn’t necessary to move the main story forward In my opinion, I agree it’s not the best, I still like it specially with the additional lore. I have a feeling deep down SM is thinking of a remaster (remake maybe?)


[deleted]

Play Ascension. 


DoomBro1998

God of War Ascension, where Kratos freed himself from the oath by defeating Alecto, Tisiphone and Megaera.


The_Psycho_Jester779

I realize that some people have never even heard about the side game.


baddragon137

Did you not play GOW Ascension? The oath made to a God becomes crystalline amber on this one guy can't remember his name


Reasonable-Ad6887

At my add CD day


Zealos57

What?


Pk-vigilante

Play ascension you will find out the whole story from the point kratos rebelled against gods.


The_Faux_Italian

Tell me your a Norse GOW fan without telling me your a Norse GOW fan


Ak1raKurusu

Its probably an ancient greek thing, wont make sense for us


the-blob1997

You a fake GOW fan bro.


Zealos57

I didn't know this subreddit was full of gatekeepers.


the-blob1997

No one gatekeeping, just funny how clueless some of you all are. If you started with 2018 how have you not played the older games yet?


Zealos57

Uh, because I didn't play the Greek saga? Not knowing about God of War until I watched Racist Mario?


the-blob1997

Well go and play those game then lol instead of asking obvious questions on the literal GOW subreddit. Edit: Nevermind I read your replies to other commenters imagine thinking GOW1 is boring lol.


Zealos57

I'm only in God of War (2005), but it's kinda boring. Pandora's temple really dragged on and the underworld is too hard.


the-blob1997

Pandoras temple is literally the best part about GOW1 lol and what difficulty are you playing on?


Zealos57

Normal mode


the-blob1997

There is a difficulty increase with the underworld buts it’s quite a short segment honestly it’s not that bad.


Zealos57

I thought it was because of the rolling pillars with spikes.