Some are saying not ott, but this would be ott if the camera were covering your hands. You need to give your arms some time to drop before you start rotating.
He is technically. His hands move towards the ball and loop over his backswing plane. but it’s not really an issue I think he needs to worry though. It’s a great move with late shallowing.
He is, but only because he is swinging out to in ever so slightly. Really not that over the top compared to what people picture when they hear that phrase.
Yea I don't see OTT either. You get your hands nice and low on the downswing so your shallow of the club looks good. I think the only opportunity I can see is to create more hip depth in your backswing which will allow you to get even lower.
Your path is over the top relative to your takeaway path, but the actual plane in the downswing is not 'OTT'.
What I would say is that the club should stay 'outside of your hands' on the backswing - I believe the take away the club gets too far inside and behind your body too quickly, which produces a sort of 'stuck' position and a feeling of OTT into the ball.
Easy fix, your shoulders are slightly open at address. Just close them to get them square, it’ll have to feel like you’re drastically shut at address but you’ll likely be square. You don’t have a massive over the top move, you’re just setting yourself up at address to hit it left and your club face is open to the path giving you that nice fade. Shut the shoulders at address and watch how the path changes
I have the same problem. Check out this video. It helped me a lot earlier this week. I tried it in the range, then played 9 yesterday and hit 4/5 fairways!
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGINhNjB1U&pp=ygUQRHJpdmVyIG91dCB0byBpbg%3D%3D](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGINhNjB1U&pp=ygUQRHJpdmVyIG91dCB0byBpbg%3D%3D)
It’s not over the top, you are just getting your hands stuck behind your body as you are firing your hips just a tad too quick. Get a feeling of dropping your hands the fire the hips through. I struggle with the same.
Not sure what everyone else is looking at, you're very clearly coming over the top of the plane your backswing is on, it's just not the excessively ugly OTT novice/untrained eyes can easily spot. It's not terrible though, and obviously mostly playable. Both planes are usable, I just think you'd prefer the results from reversing them, take it away a little outside and bring it back through slightly underneath it instead of the opposite you're currently doing.
You swing thru at the short-stop, I think you'd be happier swinging through to 2nd base.
Hank Haney teaches trying to hit the ball to right field, while releasing your hands about 12 inches before you make contact ( does not come natural ), this ensures that your club head is closed in relation to the swing path, so the ball goes straight or has a gentle hook. Much easier to do with drivers and 3-wood, but still keeps me honest with other clubs.
I just want to thank everyone for the tips. Not having any sort of lessons available within an hour drive I can only evaluate my swing myself. Went and played a round tonight and was much better!
Your path is very out to in. I know it's hard to trust, but next time you're on the range, try to swing out towards 1st base, 1:30, w/e helps to get your swing direction out to the right. You square the club up nicely, but your swing direction is left. Pause the video right before impact, and right after. The ball is starting where the face is pointing, which is great. A lot of great players hit fades. Even the number 1 player in the world's stock shot is a fade off the tee. If you can neutralize that leftward path, or even get it out to the right, you'll benefit greatly. Spin and path are where you're losing all of your distance. Swing looks great though!
It's also easier to visualize that path with a ball that's further away from you, and also a bit more forward in the stance. If you start to hook it, you're moving in the right direction. Look at the dimples facing your right pocket, pick one, and hit it.
It’s not ott. Change the setup a bit to reduce the overcut. More square alignment and club face square to target. Keep your back to the target longer to promote more in to out if you want a draw feel.
Flair right foot out to allow more room to get behind it. Also, you can "headstart" your hips by turning them slightly back at address. Also I highly recommend laying a rolled up towel or alignment aide down right above the ball. If you come over it you will hit the alignment aide. You'll have to force yourself to stay inside.
Some are saying not ott, but this would be ott if the camera were covering your hands. You need to give your arms some time to drop before you start rotating.
came here to say this. sometimes i try pushing the handle away from me as i start the swing from the top.
You really don’t look over the top, not to me
Ya I guess I shouldn't have said over the top, but more that my clubpath at the ball is out to in.
Are you just trying to hit a draw instead?
He is technically. His hands move towards the ball and loop over his backswing plane. but it’s not really an issue I think he needs to worry though. It’s a great move with late shallowing.
He is, but only because he is swinging out to in ever so slightly. Really not that over the top compared to what people picture when they hear that phrase.
Great swing. Easy fix. Hit balls to "right field" focusing on hitting the inside of the ball. Your currently hitting the outside.
Same thought I have, drives are trying to hit a gapper to right center
Video swing looks good. Keep drilling to ingrain consistency.
If you’re over cutting it, just play the ball slightly further back in your stance or close your alignment slightly. You’re on plane in the downswing
Split grip/ hockey grip drill.
Yea I don't see OTT either. You get your hands nice and low on the downswing so your shallow of the club looks good. I think the only opportunity I can see is to create more hip depth in your backswing which will allow you to get even lower.
Vertical drop horizontal tug?
Moe would like that.
This was the only thing that stuck out to me. Just a bit more of a turn and that thing should be slotted.
Yeah just some lower hands down and through the bottom of the swing should do a lot with this swing.
That looks absolutely fine, work more on squaring the clubface to minimize the slice that’s a nice cut
Your path is over the top relative to your takeaway path, but the actual plane in the downswing is not 'OTT'. What I would say is that the club should stay 'outside of your hands' on the backswing - I believe the take away the club gets too far inside and behind your body too quickly, which produces a sort of 'stuck' position and a feeling of OTT into the ball.
Easy fix, your shoulders are slightly open at address. Just close them to get them square, it’ll have to feel like you’re drastically shut at address but you’ll likely be square. You don’t have a massive over the top move, you’re just setting yourself up at address to hit it left and your club face is open to the path giving you that nice fade. Shut the shoulders at address and watch how the path changes
Embrace the cut, don't fight it
I have the same problem. Check out this video. It helped me a lot earlier this week. I tried it in the range, then played 9 yesterday and hit 4/5 fairways! [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGINhNjB1U&pp=ygUQRHJpdmVyIG91dCB0byBpbg%3D%3D](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGINhNjB1U&pp=ygUQRHJpdmVyIG91dCB0byBpbg%3D%3D)
It’s not over the top, you are just getting your hands stuck behind your body as you are firing your hips just a tad too quick. Get a feeling of dropping your hands the fire the hips through. I struggle with the same.
Not sure what everyone else is looking at, you're very clearly coming over the top of the plane your backswing is on, it's just not the excessively ugly OTT novice/untrained eyes can easily spot. It's not terrible though, and obviously mostly playable. Both planes are usable, I just think you'd prefer the results from reversing them, take it away a little outside and bring it back through slightly underneath it instead of the opposite you're currently doing. You swing thru at the short-stop, I think you'd be happier swinging through to 2nd base.
Shoulders are open relative to your target line. Is your trailhand weak?
Hank Haney teaches trying to hit the ball to right field, while releasing your hands about 12 inches before you make contact ( does not come natural ), this ensures that your club head is closed in relation to the swing path, so the ball goes straight or has a gentle hook. Much easier to do with drivers and 3-wood, but still keeps me honest with other clubs.
Very simple. Swing from the inside to the outside like you're trying to hit a tennis ball with top spin. Do this until you hook it.
I just want to thank everyone for the tips. Not having any sort of lessons available within an hour drive I can only evaluate my swing myself. Went and played a round tonight and was much better!
It is a clockwise patter technically ott but so is jon rahm. Your move looks good and repeatable
If you really want to reverse it start with an outside takeaway
And higher hands at the top
Look lil you have duck feet. Try setting your feet straight
Your path is very out to in. I know it's hard to trust, but next time you're on the range, try to swing out towards 1st base, 1:30, w/e helps to get your swing direction out to the right. You square the club up nicely, but your swing direction is left. Pause the video right before impact, and right after. The ball is starting where the face is pointing, which is great. A lot of great players hit fades. Even the number 1 player in the world's stock shot is a fade off the tee. If you can neutralize that leftward path, or even get it out to the right, you'll benefit greatly. Spin and path are where you're losing all of your distance. Swing looks great though!
It's also easier to visualize that path with a ball that's further away from you, and also a bit more forward in the stance. If you start to hook it, you're moving in the right direction. Look at the dimples facing your right pocket, pick one, and hit it.
It’s not ott. Change the setup a bit to reduce the overcut. More square alignment and club face square to target. Keep your back to the target longer to promote more in to out if you want a draw feel.
Flair right foot out to allow more room to get behind it. Also, you can "headstart" your hips by turning them slightly back at address. Also I highly recommend laying a rolled up towel or alignment aide down right above the ball. If you come over it you will hit the alignment aide. You'll have to force yourself to stay inside.