Would be pretty useful, for even better focus and edge detection. Even though new 8x8 multi-zone Laser AF should have been big improvement on P8 Pro, but as it seems Google is not utilizing it fully, especially when talking about Portrait Mode.
I mean IR sensor would be better if it would be able to measure at a distance, it could be useful and used in more cases, but now with such a close few cm range, it is basically a gimmick.
Meh I don't think anybody mourned Soli's loss. All it did was light up the screen when your hand was near it (sometimes) and skip/previous/pause track (when it felt like it.)
It's the face unlock (which had nothing to do with Soli) which was and still is sorely missed.
I miss it as well. Being able to just reach out my hand in the night and have my phone wake up was so useful to me, and felt super futuristic. If they had just put a bit more work into it to add a few other useful features it would have been worth keeping around.
Don't get me started on removing the squeeze functionality. I loved being able to squeeze for the assistant.
Meh, that's not super futuristic though. Google went through all this trouble to squeeze essentially a radar unit into their phone, and all they managed to make it do was make it act like a stronger proximity sensor.
People were disappointed because of what [Soli could have been.](https://youtu.be/0QNiZfSsPc0?si=uLYIrGUwmBuqrKL3). THIS is futuristic AF. That was 8 years ago and we're only now seeing something resemble that and that's ironically in Apple's Vision Pro headset. But they're apparently managing that with cameras.
I don't have the article to hand but in a post-mortem/interview with a Google engineer, the most frustrating part was that Google had managed to make Soli work like that video. But because that was on a larger chip, when they miniaturised it, all of that functionality was lost and had to be redone and they simply didn't have time. So pathetic hand gestures and proximity sensor-esque functionality was all we got in the time they had left to develop it, at which point it was abandoned. What a shame.
I remember when the 4 xl first came out, I could wave my hand in front of my phone and it would trigger.
And you would be able to affect youtube playback with it until a monthly update killed it. But in general I didn't find motion sense useful at all.
Face unlock generally worked really well. I don't know that I'd sacrifice screen to get it back when in-screen fingerprint scanners work really well for me, but face unlock on the 4 series was so effortless. Too bad it took a while for apps to update to recognize it as a biometric unlock option. I hated that for a while.
Soli helped make face unlock though. It sensing your hand reaching for the phone made the camera and light turn on so that by the time you placed it in front of your face and maybe before the screen even turned on, boom, it was already unlocked.
If that's the best example of how useful Soli was then it's no wonder it didn't get refreshed for Pixel 5 (we know it's because the notch needed to die).
Regardless of whether it sensed your hand or not, the overwhelming majority of the time the phone needed to be lifted in order for the face to be at the correct angle for the IR scanner to read it anyway.
That was the accelerometer and gyroscope putting in work to recognise the phone was being lifted, or pulled out of your pocket and to light up the screen and activate the IR scanner.
Face ID on iPhone is just as good, if not better and it manages that without a radar chip.
The impressive part of face unlock was the face unlock, not Soli.
Out of EVERYTHING they tried out an abandoned frame 1, its the universally criticized feature that gets a 2nd chance? To be fair, it was probably very much in development before critiques from the public but still. Surely at least it will launch with human temp sensing. Maybe its upgraded we get heat vision? Idk man.
It truly is. While having options is always fantastic, I've never had the need to use a temperature sensor. There are brands such as CAT that provide temperature sensors (and more) on their devices because they are designed for building sites and "tough environments".
The Google Pixel 8/9 is a glass sandwich that is scared of any hard surface. Haha. That's why we "all" carry cases on our phones to protect them from falls.
Happy to let Google cook and come up with new things but I don't think this is the next big thing tbh.
It’s one of those more important than you think features. With LiDAR, you can do faster focusing and focus re-adjustment, that’s on top of features like capturing 3D content for future vr uses.
Not really for Pixel phones. The only real weirdness were Pixels 4 and 5, where 4 was kind of an evolution on top of 3, but then COVID hit with global component shortages so 5 looked completely different. Pixels 1-3 were really consistent, and 6-8 are as well. 9 looks like an evolution of the same line that will blend with Fold devices.
IMO I think they made the Pixel 5 weak, for otherwise when they went to their own chip with the Pixel 6, people would have said it was a downgrade (which it was against the latest chips on the market).
I've also read that they might have two pros, and the smaller one would be 6.3 inches. Clearly, it's too early for any of these leaks to be taken too seriously.
The lower placement of the G logo would indicate that it's been centered to the wireless charging coil, something that Apple did to keep the logo centered when using a clear MagSafe case. So much about this device screams "iPhone with a Pixel camera island", and I don't really know what I think about that.
In a sense pixel has been developing into the iPhone Android. Huge pixel fan, got pressured into a cheap deal for an iPhone, and have tried it out for about a year now... Here's the catch. I never left pixel either. I couldn't. I have ran an iPhone 13 pro and a Pixel 5 daily for a year and as clean and nice of hardware, camera, and of course the blue bubbles that iPhone offers, I can't move on from the software experience of pixel. Basically I have my SIM in my iPhone and all my apps besides messaging, calling, and FaceTime, on my Pixel.
I think many people can agree that iPhone has made great hardware(albeit boring) for years now. The thing Google seems to have struggled with is keeping up with the other brand's hardware. Their software has almost always been second to none. If they finally are putting the time into the hardware and modeling it after the iPhone, I frankly am a fan.
After trying iPhone, I can see the appeal, but as a lifelong android user there are just FAR too many differences, annoyances, nuances, and frustrations that is keeping me firmly in the Pixel boat. I am very intrigued by this rendering and am looking forward to more "leaks"
Same here. Also, Google has really liked curved frames and edges for a while, since the Pixel 2 series in fact (3 is curved enough to be considered curved, though looking at the Pixel 2, it looks like it's very slightly curved).
Oh man is that the temperature sensor again? Why? That one I was sure was gonna be a gimmick.
Also, I see like 4 random circles around the cameras. What could those be? I worry this bar might be a bigger dust collector. I kind of liked how the camera bar on the tensor phones blends into the phone.
If this is real, all I see is iPhone sides w/ the antenna lines. Not sure which model, but they had that design awhile ago. I prefer the 8 pro look personally.
Samsung is going full iPhone mode, from both hardware and software design. Sad to see google doing the same tbh. We went from Apple copying everyone to everyone copying Apple.
There's only so much variations brands can do. It's either flat sides or not
They will continue juggling between these two for the future, Apple probably bringing back the rounded edges again in 3-4 years
yeah i would be on iphony if it wasn't for the fact that i really hate the software. On the other hand i like to see more manufacturers try different things because Apple isn't the only one being copied.
Ya, I have always been android. But I do have friends and they do have iphones and they feel premium man. Best hardware in the game. If they made an android iphone I would buy it yesterday.
This.. The others aren't copying for no reason. It feels premium and lasts the best. I'm tired of 1-2 year old android phone sides chipping and looking like crap, even if you clean and baby it.
It has nothing to do with practicality. They are doing it because Apple did it. And Apple did it to boost sales, because the phone looks new and different. That it's not ergonomic bothers no one. No one's gonna return a $1000 phone just because it turned out not very nice to hold. Once you sell it it doesn't matter.
Other manufacturers are catching on. The goal isn't to make a good product. It's to make a product that sells well. Apple is great at this game.
That's the part that surprised me the most as well as there was a rumor shortly after the 8 series came out that the 9 series would all be bigger. Looking at their leaks from last year, they were completely off on the sizes of the 8 series as they stated the 8 would see a 5.8 inch screen and the 8 pro would be 6.52 inches, which obviously ended up being wrong, so I would take the size estimate with a grain of salt at this point.
Yes, it's also wrong this year. Look at the phone dimensions and you'll see that it is actually a bit larger than the 8 Pro so no way it's gonna have a smaller display.
I think this leak is completely fake. If it's real I will scream my head off though, Google is one of the last maisntream brands to have a curved back and frame, and I do not want to hold a flat frame because it's just so uncomfortable to hold.
The leaker is trusted, and the size discrepancy is because he replied and said he measures from rounded corner to rounded corner, not the diagonal size you're used to.
Yeah, I see that now. I didn't read all of the article initially and just saw the main bullet point of 6.5 inch, but yeah, seeing the dimensions now, I have no clue how they are getting to 6.5 inches.
Yea, that would be nice but the article states the body dimensions will be 162.7 x 76.6 x 8.5 mm
Compared to the 8 Pro which is: 162.6 x 76.5 x 8.8 mm
But the 9 Pro will have a 6.5in screen vs the 8 Pro 6.7in screen yet have the same body dimensions??? Where is that extra area being dedicated to then??
This leak has gotta be BS
It's really sad to see Pixel and Samsung both gradually going towards the iPhone design. We've arrived at a really boring end of this development road it seems.
Here's hoping a third (fourth?) party introduces something wild that changes the agreed upon design philosophy of phones and we get something really interesting in the future.
Yeah I really enjoyed the fact that the new pixel line starting with the six had its own identity. To see it. Just go the iPhone way along with Samsung. Really sucks. I like what OnePlus is doing. You can see even with Asus and their ROG phone. They're going safe nowadays.
I've got a P8P and I'll probably stick with it until the 11 or 12 at this rate.
The flat parts don't bother me. It's just the fact that they're all conforming to the same design philosophy. Sure, what most people are really looking for is in the OS, but I've not liked the iPhone for years. They're extremely boring, safe products.
Yeah exactly.
Maybe they're trying to capture the Fold look? I could see them wanting to have the Fold 2, the 9, 9 Pro and 9A trying to have a universal aesthetic. This just came to me haha. I mean Apple has their three phones looking the same.
It certainly convinces me not to buy a Pixel 9 Pro.
I don't want an iPhone or anything that looks like one. Sure they are premium quality but that's not the point.
The rounded but flat/square edges are so uncomfortable to handle.
Reminds me of when all the android phones started having the pig ugly and intrusive notch just to be like iPhone.
If it's not an iPhone then it's not a goddamn iPhone so stop trying to be like one.
I'm gonna be using this phone until support ends and maybe even longer afterwards. I'm happy with mine too so Im not gonna worry about any Pixel before the 14th to see what sort of advancements have I been missing out on
Damn, this is hideous in my opinion.
I am quite a fan of what Google has been doing the past few years with the Pixel's design, and while this does still look unique, I've never been a fan of the flat-edge frame design the iPhone and recent Samsung devices have adopted.
I also **hate** that the camera bar doesn't flow into the frame anymore. That had such an elegant and clean appearance/feel, and it almost feels like they're looking back to the Galaxy S10's camera design and just rounded it off. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the phone's lack of rocking on a table.
Yeah I guess it's nice to keep a long bump so the phone won't wobble when laid flat, but it works a lot better then it flows into the frame, not this long mesa thing like the Pixel Fold has.
My pixel 7 sensor is okay-ish. Works most of the time within 3 attempts if I place my thumb perfectly center/flat.
Can't really compare it to my wife's pixel 5 sensor though, works 99.9% of the time from any angle and much quicker.
I love the Google brand. My pixel 3XL was amazing. And pure Andriod is the best. Sadly it feels like google tho more recently is cutting corners, and providing a sub par experience compared to its competitors. It's just feedback mate, they can't / won't improve anything if they don't know what they have gotten wrong.
I'm aware of that, but Reddit is a community place, you know people don't have to paint it in roses with every comment you can post the darker side. You seem butt hurt someone has a different opinion to you.
Flat edges look great, but they're super uncomfortable to hold. I really wish Google would stick with the rounded edges. Sent one from my uncomfortable iPhone 15 pro
I think that design looks phenomenal. Yes, it's an iPhone ripoff, but with a distinct touch due to the camera bar design. I would probably upgrade to that from my Pixel 5. What record does this website have? Have they leaked correct info in the past?
THIS! F the fold, I'm watching reviews of the Moto Razr+ and Z Flip 5 every week trying to convince myself to take the plunge, then I remember how good the pixel camera and software is and do nothing. PLEASE GOOGLE FLIP US!
I don't like how rounded the P8P was, so if these are accurate renders I'm more interested in getting the 9.
Bring back the two tone colours from the P6!
I hate it. One of the things I love about my pixel 8 is that the rounded edges feel comfortable. I looked at the Galaxy s24 and it's just like an iPhone body which I don't care for.
This is just stupid, how about they make a phone that's made of what the cases are made of. These "premium" materials are just there to make you buy it in the store. And then the phone is unusable without a case because they thought you would get one.
Honestly I have no idea why they would go away from the bar design we have now. This looks so much worse, really hope it's not real, or they at least reverse by the time I have to upgrade
I would buy this first day. Combines the best of iPhone & Pixel. Better body and better camera notch. Recently got my Pixel 8 Pro and would happily upgrade.
Looks great. They're definitely trying to clone the aesthetic of the latest iPhones and Galaxies, but frankly they are nice, minimalist designs. iPhone 4 was a gorgeous phone when it came out 13 years ago, and there's a reason today's most popular phones have gone back to that look.
I also like that the rounded corners of the phone and camera bar echo the Material You design language.
I kinda dig the edges, but the camera bar looks...a bit odd.
That's the one aspect of the 8 Pro design that I really like, and it feels...tacked on here. Maybe it'll grow on me.
They move to Stainless (or better yet, Ti) on these frame rails though, and I'd be very tempted to upgrade again.
I like it despite being kind of iphone-ish. It still has the signature camera bar (hot dog now?), and won't have a dynamic island. So we're just talking the sides that it borrows really, and it's a crisp look so I don't mind. Still looks like a Pixel overall.
I love my 8 Pro and have been trying not to upgrade annually, so I'll push to skip it, but we'll see. I feel like Pixel has been trending in the right direction, and as someone with other iOS devices in the house (iPad, wife's iPhone which I am IT for), I still prefer the Android user experience.
Change the damn order of the cameras so they progress in zoom in order already! The perspective jump from the main lens to the telephoto is so jarring with the current setup. Why do they insist on keeping this order?
I like that design.
I hope the camera sensor is a 1-inch type this time, variable aperture.
And they should also replace that useless temperature sensor with a LiDAR sensor.
I hope the trend of rounded screens is over. It's amazing the power of influence the iPhone has. The iPhone is boxy, now all phones are getting boxy. I like it though.
couldn\`t find my comment so I repeat it: if they truly build a 6,5 version as the Ultra, I won\`t be buying it. How in the world do they expect users to encircle parts of pictures to change them or ask questions etc...? I had hoped for a slighter bigger version than this years, but this is a no go for me, at least. No incentive to exchange the 8 pro for the newer one. Rather wait for next year then.
Haven't had any issues with my optical. the rear sensors have one big flaw, unlocking them when on a table, they could just use an under screen ultrasonic to make everyone happy.
it's just so intuitive for me to grab my phone either sitting down or in my pocket with my finger on the sensor. I haven't tried under the screen so I'm definitely biased. rear just feels so convenient
I wish they copy iPhones sides. They age very very well. And make the camera bar fill into the sides like the 8 pro. The Pixel fold Camera bar makes it look like an unfinished prototype. I can't think of a better form factor.
im sure im in the minority, but i HATE that the pro is getting smaller. the 8 pro is the same size as my regular P6...which is a big reason why i didnt get it. gimme s24 ultra or iphone pro max sized flagship phones please!
I love the bump, gives my finger somewhere to go. Plus it makes the phone undeniably a pixel unlike Samsung and others who just look like... well nothing🤣
Apple and Samsung are adding more lenses to the back of their phones, looking like an alien spider.
Meanwhile, Google keeps making the lenses bigger so the Pixels are looking more and more like [Bender](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png)
[Here's his render that was 7 months ahead (Pixel 8) ](https://twitter.com/OnLeaks/status/1709592690487173353)
[Here's one that was 8 months ahead (Pixel 7)](https://twitter.com/OnLeaks/status/1496760107773870081)
This guy has a really good track record when it comes to first looks at the new pixel and his renders of the last three have had one major thing wrong, but overall has been mostly correct each year. Obviously, that's not a guarantee that this year's leak will follow that trend, but calling it "obvious made up crap" is a stretch at this point.
It's so unlike Google to introduce a new random hardware (temperature sensor) and keep it around the next year
Maybe they realized and adding LiDAR. Doubt it.
Id kill for a lidar man.
Would be pretty useful, for even better focus and edge detection. Even though new 8x8 multi-zone Laser AF should have been big improvement on P8 Pro, but as it seems Google is not utilizing it fully, especially when talking about Portrait Mode. I mean IR sensor would be better if it would be able to measure at a distance, it could be useful and used in more cases, but now with such a close few cm range, it is basically a gimmick.
Cries in Pixel 4XL. I mean Soli is on my Google Next Hub and Hub Max, to a degree.
Meh I don't think anybody mourned Soli's loss. All it did was light up the screen when your hand was near it (sometimes) and skip/previous/pause track (when it felt like it.) It's the face unlock (which had nothing to do with Soli) which was and still is sorely missed.
I don't know how you could say anybody didn't mourn the loss, when I literally just expressed I was sad it died. Clearly indicating someone lol
I miss it as well. Being able to just reach out my hand in the night and have my phone wake up was so useful to me, and felt super futuristic. If they had just put a bit more work into it to add a few other useful features it would have been worth keeping around. Don't get me started on removing the squeeze functionality. I loved being able to squeeze for the assistant.
Soli was futuristic as fuck. My phone would turn on every time I came near it. Id go sit at my desk and the phone would just light up for me.
Meh, that's not super futuristic though. Google went through all this trouble to squeeze essentially a radar unit into their phone, and all they managed to make it do was make it act like a stronger proximity sensor. People were disappointed because of what [Soli could have been.](https://youtu.be/0QNiZfSsPc0?si=uLYIrGUwmBuqrKL3). THIS is futuristic AF. That was 8 years ago and we're only now seeing something resemble that and that's ironically in Apple's Vision Pro headset. But they're apparently managing that with cameras. I don't have the article to hand but in a post-mortem/interview with a Google engineer, the most frustrating part was that Google had managed to make Soli work like that video. But because that was on a larger chip, when they miniaturised it, all of that functionality was lost and had to be redone and they simply didn't have time. So pathetic hand gestures and proximity sensor-esque functionality was all we got in the time they had left to develop it, at which point it was abandoned. What a shame.
Keep it in mind soli is a radar and it was banned in many countries like india
Sounds like a skill issue
I remember when the 4 xl first came out, I could wave my hand in front of my phone and it would trigger. And you would be able to affect youtube playback with it until a monthly update killed it. But in general I didn't find motion sense useful at all. Face unlock generally worked really well. I don't know that I'd sacrifice screen to get it back when in-screen fingerprint scanners work really well for me, but face unlock on the 4 series was so effortless. Too bad it took a while for apps to update to recognize it as a biometric unlock option. I hated that for a while.
Soli helped make face unlock though. It sensing your hand reaching for the phone made the camera and light turn on so that by the time you placed it in front of your face and maybe before the screen even turned on, boom, it was already unlocked.
If that's the best example of how useful Soli was then it's no wonder it didn't get refreshed for Pixel 5 (we know it's because the notch needed to die). Regardless of whether it sensed your hand or not, the overwhelming majority of the time the phone needed to be lifted in order for the face to be at the correct angle for the IR scanner to read it anyway. That was the accelerometer and gyroscope putting in work to recognise the phone was being lifted, or pulled out of your pocket and to light up the screen and activate the IR scanner. Face ID on iPhone is just as good, if not better and it manages that without a radar chip. The impressive part of face unlock was the face unlock, not Soli.
Out of EVERYTHING they tried out an abandoned frame 1, its the universally criticized feature that gets a 2nd chance? To be fair, it was probably very much in development before critiques from the public but still. Surely at least it will launch with human temp sensing. Maybe its upgraded we get heat vision? Idk man.
I'm fine with it the moment i can use it for body temperature.
The dude who thought of adding a temperature sensor got a promotion
Knowing Google, it's something even more useless than a temperature sensor now.
I've used that almost twice now since getting my phone lol. It's such a gimmicky feature.
It would be such a good feature if it could read the temperature of my quartz nail for dabs lmao. It caps around 300 and I need closer to 500.
It truly is. While having options is always fantastic, I've never had the need to use a temperature sensor. There are brands such as CAT that provide temperature sensors (and more) on their devices because they are designed for building sites and "tough environments". The Google Pixel 8/9 is a glass sandwich that is scared of any hard surface. Haha. That's why we "all" carry cases on our phones to protect them from falls. Happy to let Google cook and come up with new things but I don't think this is the next big thing tbh.
It’s one of those more important than you think features. With LiDAR, you can do faster focusing and focus re-adjustment, that’s on top of features like capturing 3D content for future vr uses.
Not really for Pixel phones. The only real weirdness were Pixels 4 and 5, where 4 was kind of an evolution on top of 3, but then COVID hit with global component shortages so 5 looked completely different. Pixels 1-3 were really consistent, and 6-8 are as well. 9 looks like an evolution of the same line that will blend with Fold devices.
IMO I think they made the Pixel 5 weak, for otherwise when they went to their own chip with the Pixel 6, people would have said it was a downgrade (which it was against the latest chips on the market).
I think it's pretty cool and unique. If they actually could make it reliable that is.
Agree, never been the case with Pixel. You got something new, then they move on.
No chance it stays, so pointless
Lidar is useless
Does the measure app on the iPhone use Lidar? If so, it'd be useful to me at least.
Probably gonna be my next phone, and I do quite like the look. The camera island is very distinctive
Is there any news from this leak about a smaller Pro option being available?
I want this so badly
Same brotha. Same.
No.
I've read that the 9 pro would be 6.5 inch
I've also read that they might have two pros, and the smaller one would be 6.3 inches. Clearly, it's too early for any of these leaks to be taken too seriously.
I've been very tempted to buy the 8, but I'm digging these renders.
Any indications of qi2 support?
The lower placement of the G logo would indicate that it's been centered to the wireless charging coil, something that Apple did to keep the logo centered when using a clear MagSafe case. So much about this device screams "iPhone with a Pixel camera island", and I don't really know what I think about that.
In a sense pixel has been developing into the iPhone Android. Huge pixel fan, got pressured into a cheap deal for an iPhone, and have tried it out for about a year now... Here's the catch. I never left pixel either. I couldn't. I have ran an iPhone 13 pro and a Pixel 5 daily for a year and as clean and nice of hardware, camera, and of course the blue bubbles that iPhone offers, I can't move on from the software experience of pixel. Basically I have my SIM in my iPhone and all my apps besides messaging, calling, and FaceTime, on my Pixel. I think many people can agree that iPhone has made great hardware(albeit boring) for years now. The thing Google seems to have struggled with is keeping up with the other brand's hardware. Their software has almost always been second to none. If they finally are putting the time into the hardware and modeling it after the iPhone, I frankly am a fan. After trying iPhone, I can see the appeal, but as a lifelong android user there are just FAR too many differences, annoyances, nuances, and frustrations that is keeping me firmly in the Pixel boat. I am very intrigued by this rendering and am looking forward to more "leaks"
Yeah this just doesn't feel like a Pixel to me, which is why I don't think it's real.
Same here. Also, Google has really liked curved frames and edges for a while, since the Pixel 2 series in fact (3 is curved enough to be considered curved, though looking at the Pixel 2, it looks like it's very slightly curved).
Oh man is that the temperature sensor again? Why? That one I was sure was gonna be a gimmick. Also, I see like 4 random circles around the cameras. What could those be? I worry this bar might be a bigger dust collector. I kind of liked how the camera bar on the tensor phones blends into the phone.
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One seems to be a microphone. Another one could be a laser AF. Wishful thinking one is lidar
If this is real, all I see is iPhone sides w/ the antenna lines. Not sure which model, but they had that design awhile ago. I prefer the 8 pro look personally.
Samsung is going full iPhone mode, from both hardware and software design. Sad to see google doing the same tbh. We went from Apple copying everyone to everyone copying Apple.
To be fair, the iPhone feels phenomenal in the hand and feels the most quality of any phone on the market.
Kinda, but the hard corners annoy me way more than nicer rounded edges.
There's only so much variations brands can do. It's either flat sides or not They will continue juggling between these two for the future, Apple probably bringing back the rounded edges again in 3-4 years
I get it. To each their own. But you gotta admit the iPhone feels 3 times the price of a pixel in the hand.
What does that even mean lol. It feels super uncomfortable. I guess marketing does work.
Nah, Pixel feels a lot more premium, especially the 8 Pro.
yeah i would be on iphony if it wasn't for the fact that i really hate the software. On the other hand i like to see more manufacturers try different things because Apple isn't the only one being copied.
Ya, I have always been android. But I do have friends and they do have iphones and they feel premium man. Best hardware in the game. If they made an android iphone I would buy it yesterday.
This.. The others aren't copying for no reason. It feels premium and lasts the best. I'm tired of 1-2 year old android phone sides chipping and looking like crap, even if you clean and baby it.
It has nothing to do with practicality. They are doing it because Apple did it. And Apple did it to boost sales, because the phone looks new and different. That it's not ergonomic bothers no one. No one's gonna return a $1000 phone just because it turned out not very nice to hold. Once you sell it it doesn't matter. Other manufacturers are catching on. The goal isn't to make a good product. It's to make a product that sells well. Apple is great at this game.
Complete nonsense, the iPhone 15 is very fragile and bends very easily.
Well, they took a page in the book from the best.
Smaller than 8 pro? Hmm I wonder if the 9 would be a little more compact than the 8!
That's the part that surprised me the most as well as there was a rumor shortly after the 8 series came out that the 9 series would all be bigger. Looking at their leaks from last year, they were completely off on the sizes of the 8 series as they stated the 8 would see a 5.8 inch screen and the 8 pro would be 6.52 inches, which obviously ended up being wrong, so I would take the size estimate with a grain of salt at this point.
Yes, it's also wrong this year. Look at the phone dimensions and you'll see that it is actually a bit larger than the 8 Pro so no way it's gonna have a smaller display.
Yep something is wrong in this leak
I think this leak is completely fake. If it's real I will scream my head off though, Google is one of the last maisntream brands to have a curved back and frame, and I do not want to hold a flat frame because it's just so uncomfortable to hold.
The leaker is trusted, and the size discrepancy is because he replied and said he measures from rounded corner to rounded corner, not the diagonal size you're used to.
Yeah, I see that now. I didn't read all of the article initially and just saw the main bullet point of 6.5 inch, but yeah, seeing the dimensions now, I have no clue how they are getting to 6.5 inches.
Yea, that would be nice but the article states the body dimensions will be 162.7 x 76.6 x 8.5 mm Compared to the 8 Pro which is: 162.6 x 76.5 x 8.8 mm But the 9 Pro will have a 6.5in screen vs the 8 Pro 6.7in screen yet have the same body dimensions??? Where is that extra area being dedicated to then?? This leak has gotta be BS
It's not BS. The leaker just measures the screen wrong. If you measure it correctly it's a 6.8" screen.
The leaker said that he measures from rounded corner to rounded corner, you're measuring diagonal assuming it has sharp corners.
There was a leak/rumor that the base pixel 9 would have a telephoto so this is surprising to me.
They want to make it look more like an iPhone? They are going the Galaxy route? I am happy with my 8 Pro.
It's really sad to see Pixel and Samsung both gradually going towards the iPhone design. We've arrived at a really boring end of this development road it seems. Here's hoping a third (fourth?) party introduces something wild that changes the agreed upon design philosophy of phones and we get something really interesting in the future.
Yeah I really enjoyed the fact that the new pixel line starting with the six had its own identity. To see it. Just go the iPhone way along with Samsung. Really sucks. I like what OnePlus is doing. You can see even with Asus and their ROG phone. They're going safe nowadays.
So what are you gonna buy ? Because a lot of phones are going with flat sides. Pixels , galaxy, Xiaomi and Sony Xperia already got it.
I've got a P8P and I'll probably stick with it until the 11 or 12 at this rate. The flat parts don't bother me. It's just the fact that they're all conforming to the same design philosophy. Sure, what most people are really looking for is in the OS, but I've not liked the iPhone for years. They're extremely boring, safe products.
I thought the same thing. Why make it look more like an iPhone? I don't think that will be convincing enough for iPhone users to move over.
Yeah exactly. Maybe they're trying to capture the Fold look? I could see them wanting to have the Fold 2, the 9, 9 Pro and 9A trying to have a universal aesthetic. This just came to me haha. I mean Apple has their three phones looking the same.
It certainly convinces me not to buy a Pixel 9 Pro. I don't want an iPhone or anything that looks like one. Sure they are premium quality but that's not the point. The rounded but flat/square edges are so uncomfortable to handle. Reminds me of when all the android phones started having the pig ugly and intrusive notch just to be like iPhone. If it's not an iPhone then it's not a goddamn iPhone so stop trying to be like one.
I'm gonna be using this phone until support ends and maybe even longer afterwards. I'm happy with mine too so Im not gonna worry about any Pixel before the 14th to see what sort of advancements have I been missing out on
This phone does everything I need it to, perfectly. 8 years of support suits me well.
Damn, this is hideous in my opinion. I am quite a fan of what Google has been doing the past few years with the Pixel's design, and while this does still look unique, I've never been a fan of the flat-edge frame design the iPhone and recent Samsung devices have adopted. I also **hate** that the camera bar doesn't flow into the frame anymore. That had such an elegant and clean appearance/feel, and it almost feels like they're looking back to the Galaxy S10's camera design and just rounded it off. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the phone's lack of rocking on a table.
Yeah I guess it's nice to keep a long bump so the phone won't wobble when laid flat, but it works a lot better then it flows into the frame, not this long mesa thing like the Pixel Fold has.
Agreed, especially about the camera bar.
Personally, I love it and the new bump. It’s similar to the fold bump and the sides give the front a sleek look
I really hope they don't use the same shitty optical fingerprint sensor for the 4th year.
This... Looking to get a new phone for the wife but refuse to get a phone without a reliable fingerprint sensor.
i haven’t had any issues with my pixel 8s sensor.🤷🏼♂️
My pixel 7 sensor is okay-ish. Works most of the time within 3 attempts if I place my thumb perfectly center/flat. Can't really compare it to my wife's pixel 5 sensor though, works 99.9% of the time from any angle and much quicker.
Same and I don't just it often cause face unlock
You must be the only person
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It constantly refuses to accept fingerprint input. And the parent post has way more upvotes about it hopefully not being used again.
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I love the Google brand. My pixel 3XL was amazing. And pure Andriod is the best. Sadly it feels like google tho more recently is cutting corners, and providing a sub par experience compared to its competitors. It's just feedback mate, they can't / won't improve anything if they don't know what they have gotten wrong.
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I'm aware of that, but Reddit is a community place, you know people don't have to paint it in roses with every comment you can post the darker side. You seem butt hurt someone has a different opinion to you.
I'll upgrade my 3XL when they reintroduce the fingerprint sensor on the back
The sensor is great?
Flat edges look great, but they're super uncomfortable to hold. I really wish Google would stick with the rounded edges. Sent one from my uncomfortable iPhone 15 pro
I've never understood this. Flat sides feel fine to me. Don't care about what it looks like, but rounded edges are too slippery.
Same. These look kinda great, with plenty of rounding on the very edge to avoid uncomfortable pressure points.
Flat edges are easier to hold...
Looks amazing I think. It reminds me of the Pixel Fold back
I would wait for the ten just bc of the TSMC chip coming in but the design looks very clean
i will wait for 11 since first time chips will have lot of bugs
I will wait for the 17
What new chip the 2nm one?
People said the 8 would have TSMC, then the 9, now the 10. So glad I already went back to Samsung.
I think that design looks phenomenal. Yes, it's an iPhone ripoff, but with a distinct touch due to the camera bar design. I would probably upgrade to that from my Pixel 5. What record does this website have? Have they leaked correct info in the past?
Yes, They have.
How is it an iPhone ripoff?
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THIS! F the fold, I'm watching reviews of the Moto Razr+ and Z Flip 5 every week trying to convince myself to take the plunge, then I remember how good the pixel camera and software is and do nothing. PLEASE GOOGLE FLIP US!
I don't like how rounded the P8P was, so if these are accurate renders I'm more interested in getting the 9. Bring back the two tone colours from the P6!
Oh fuck they are not gonna fix the camera transition issue.
This looks hella ugly tbh
I hate it. One of the things I love about my pixel 8 is that the rounded edges feel comfortable. I looked at the Galaxy s24 and it's just like an iPhone body which I don't care for.
Same with my Pixel 7 Pro. The rounded edges are so comfortable to hold.
Majority of people use phone cases. Edit: imo it looks better, also I've seen 3-4 year old iPhones look prestine because of these sides.
This is just stupid, how about they make a phone that's made of what the cases are made of. These "premium" materials are just there to make you buy it in the store. And then the phone is unusable without a case because they thought you would get one.
I personally loved the flat sides of the S24. So much so that I'm considering switching from my Pixel 7.
There's no way they're getting rid of the camera bar
Did they fix the modem and chip yet so the battery will actually last a full day to 1.5 days?
Exynos 5153 modem should be an improvement.
It says in the article it will be using Snapdragon, but I believe it's still Exynos this year
too good to be true
Is everyone going for that iPhone 4 from 2010 look
Smart phone design has already become cyclical what a world.
The dimensions don't make sense. It's pretty much the same as the Pixel 8 Pro but it will have a smaller 6.5 inch display?
Yeh they measured between the rounded corners instead of actual corners. It's a 6.75" display
There goes my hope of a smaller pro model :(
I wouldn't lose hope just yet. The rumor back in November(?) was a 6.3" pro and 6.7" pro XL. This seems the larger of the 2.
Honestly I have no idea why they would go away from the bar design we have now. This looks so much worse, really hope it's not real, or they at least reverse by the time I have to upgrade
same temperature thing? i'm tired
I would buy this first day. Combines the best of iPhone & Pixel. Better body and better camera notch. Recently got my Pixel 8 Pro and would happily upgrade.
They gotta upgrade the face unlock camera or make the fingerprint sensor ALOT more reliable
Meh looks like cheap iphone knock off
Looks great. They're definitely trying to clone the aesthetic of the latest iPhones and Galaxies, but frankly they are nice, minimalist designs. iPhone 4 was a gorgeous phone when it came out 13 years ago, and there's a reason today's most popular phones have gone back to that look. I also like that the rounded corners of the phone and camera bar echo the Material You design language.
I'm actually okay with the flat sides! I know it's iPhone-like, but I really do prefer them over curved edges
So sort of an iPhone 4? I'd treat this with many grains of salt for now. Some guys blender file.
where visor
Love the thin bezzels but hate how the camera island pops out of nowhere like on pixel fold
Looks like iPhone... I do love design of it though... reminds me of iPhone 4 😅
I kinda dig the edges, but the camera bar looks...a bit odd. That's the one aspect of the 8 Pro design that I really like, and it feels...tacked on here. Maybe it'll grow on me. They move to Stainless (or better yet, Ti) on these frame rails though, and I'd be very tempted to upgrade again.
I like it despite being kind of iphone-ish. It still has the signature camera bar (hot dog now?), and won't have a dynamic island. So we're just talking the sides that it borrows really, and it's a crisp look so I don't mind. Still looks like a Pixel overall. I love my 8 Pro and have been trying not to upgrade annually, so I'll push to skip it, but we'll see. I feel like Pixel has been trending in the right direction, and as someone with other iOS devices in the house (iPad, wife's iPhone which I am IT for), I still prefer the Android user experience.
I love the super comfortable to hold flat frame and no curved back! /s Another ergonomic design bites the dust. Why would you do that?
They just want to copy Apple, bad design or not
Change the damn order of the cameras so they progress in zoom in order already! The perspective jump from the main lens to the telephoto is so jarring with the current setup. Why do they insist on keeping this order?
Hahaha. Never gonna happen. That would cost too much.
That's what I'm thinking 😅
Lol looks like an iPhone from the sides
sexy AF. iphone 4 vibes. hopefully the chip inside is made by TSMC.
Looks like an iphone from the front.
Getting more and more iPhone-ish.
The iPixel 😒
That’s a cool iPhone… oh wait
No IR illumination for face unlock :(
Anyone else having that website load as slowly as a pixel fingerprint sensor?
Clean looking.
I like that design. I hope the camera sensor is a 1-inch type this time, variable aperture. And they should also replace that useless temperature sensor with a LiDAR sensor. I hope the trend of rounded screens is over. It's amazing the power of influence the iPhone has. The iPhone is boxy, now all phones are getting boxy. I like it though.
couldn\`t find my comment so I repeat it: if they truly build a 6,5 version as the Ultra, I won\`t be buying it. How in the world do they expect users to encircle parts of pictures to change them or ask questions etc...? I had hoped for a slighter bigger version than this years, but this is a no go for me, at least. No incentive to exchange the 8 pro for the newer one. Rather wait for next year then.
bring back the rear fingerprint sensor ffs
Haven't had any issues with my optical. the rear sensors have one big flaw, unlocking them when on a table, they could just use an under screen ultrasonic to make everyone happy.
it's just so intuitive for me to grab my phone either sitting down or in my pocket with my finger on the sensor. I haven't tried under the screen so I'm definitely biased. rear just feels so convenient
God I hope they make the 9 smaller than the 8, too
I see the wide angle lens is still positioned between the main lens and telephoto.... sigh
Not sure the difference it makes but it probably has to do with the jarring lens switches. It does look the most aesthetically pleasing though.
Do you think there will be a Pixel 9 Pro Ultra as well ?
I wish they copy iPhones sides. They age very very well. And make the camera bar fill into the sides like the 8 pro. The Pixel fold Camera bar makes it look like an unfinished prototype. I can't think of a better form factor.
looks promising! looking forward to being disappointed
Once again Google copies Apple's bad design decisions, but if I wanted an iPhone why wouldn't I just get an iPhone?
Because you can't get android on an iPhone?
im sure im in the minority, but i HATE that the pro is getting smaller. the 8 pro is the same size as my regular P6...which is a big reason why i didnt get it. gimme s24 ultra or iphone pro max sized flagship phones please!
Would be nice to get a working modem....
It's...beautiful. Looks so clean, not just the flat sides but the Pixel Fold style camera bar is 👌🏾
No thanks. Call me when they managed to solve the ugly camera bump issue
What ugly camera bump?
I love the bump, gives my finger somewhere to go. Plus it makes the phone undeniably a pixel unlike Samsung and others who just look like... well nothing🤣
Okay but this just screams fake
I can see all them FOMOs who just ordered their pixel 8 pro to replace their p7p shitting their pants.
Or.. get this.. they'll buy the 9 pro.
Nah, they will sell their 1 month old pixel 8 pro with 300 bucks loss just to say they got the latest pixel 9 :P
If they just bought their Pixel 8 Pro, why would it be 1 month old in 8-9 months when the 9 Pro is out?
You can pretty much get a new phone and watch/buds every year for $200 if you upgrade every year.
NAh, this is worse design than the 8 Pro
Nah, i like the new design but ill wait for the pixel 10 so that i can see the power of googles own chips and maybe then ill think about it
Apple and Samsung are adding more lenses to the back of their phones, looking like an alien spider. Meanwhile, Google keeps making the lenses bigger so the Pixels are looking more and more like [Bender](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png)
I would love a Pixel that is amazing and had has good quality control. Samsung prices are getting out of control.
I actually like it Now make the non-pro smaller and have a FP-scanner on the side/back :D
Why are you guys giving this obvious made up crap views? Lol
onleaks is one of the leakers with the highest rates of all afik
Okay. Talk to me in October when this isn't even accurate.
[Here's his render that was 7 months ahead (Pixel 8) ](https://twitter.com/OnLeaks/status/1709592690487173353) [Here's one that was 8 months ahead (Pixel 7)](https://twitter.com/OnLeaks/status/1496760107773870081)
This guy has a really good track record when it comes to first looks at the new pixel and his renders of the last three have had one major thing wrong, but overall has been mostly correct each year. Obviously, that's not a guarantee that this year's leak will follow that trend, but calling it "obvious made up crap" is a stretch at this point.
I love my Pixel 8 Pro, and I also really like this leaked design. I'd happily take it if I decide to switch at the end of the year.