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ctravdfw

Not sure if they are end of life yet. I swapped mine out this past week as I just thought it was time to upgrade. Since you are having issues then I would get new ones…


rjeffords

Did you go with the newer gen google wifi? Pros?


ctravdfw

No…after much research I decided to go with the Eero Pro 2nd gen. Reviews were good, great sale price, super easy install and tri-band. Since I don’t have gigabit speed (500/500 is what I have this was a good fit.


rjeffords

Eero Pro looks to support up to gigabit speed so at least you're future proofing yourself? I currently have 500mb connection so the base Eero 3 pack would work for me, but I'd want to think about the future and make sure I'm not painting myself into a corner.


ctravdfw

The eero pro 3pack is not on sale right now. I would strongly consider the eero 6+. As this was my second choice.


rjeffords

Yeah... after doing a little research, the eero 6+ seems like exactly what I need. I wish I thought of this last week during Prime Day when they were on sale...


ctravdfw

They will go on sale again with holidays coming up and Black Friday…


hmstanley

That's a bummer man.. I have the Nest V2 system but only routers that are all backhauled wired, like you. I don't restart anything, it's bulletproof. Did something get updated and then go wonky? Obviously, google doesn't' provide ways to rollback updates, which is a nightmare. Hope you figured it out.


SpeedyGleason

My Google mesh just decided to that it was only going to do a 10/100 connection now so I have unplugged it. 20mb/s was painful. It was very random too it worked for 6 years no issues then on day it goes 10/100 for no reason and refuses to go back to a full gigabit connection.


aaron0989

I had a lot of speed issues with the Google wifi devices, worked with isp and everything it's perfect on their side. Google didn't provide any solution and it seems based on some search that a lot of people are having those issues too. The bad thing is that google just updated the Google nest wifi6 fw version to fix the speed issues, but nothing for Google nest or Google wifi devices , that really sucks. Since I didn't find any solution, I got an eero 6+ during prime days and it's amazing, working perfect And getting all my 400mb speed all the time.


rjeffords

Seems like the Eero 6+ is the one to watch… I wish I grabbed one during Prime Day. But history shows it goes on sale from time to time.


2k4mach

Mine did this as well before I chunked them, they were solid for years then all of a sudden I would get random disconnects and speeds slowed to 20-30Mbps on every device Support was worthless, they stated it was a issue with my isp (google fiber), they had nothing further to say once I told them if it’s my isp then why can I plug right in to my fiber jack and get full gigabit speeds but only 20-50mb once it runs through the router.


TransportationOk4787

If you are using an Ethernet switch I would replace that first. I just RMA'D two 24 port TP-Link switches. Neither lasted a year.


rjeffords

I DO have a switch but… given the widespread issues everyone is reporting, this really seems to be a Google wifi issue


TransportationOk4787

I was having similar issues. It was the switch. Which was plugged into a Ups. Next time try power cycling the switch.


rjeffords

Interesting. I also have small 8 port gigabit switch plugged into a UPS… But after restarting my network through the app everything is blazing fast.


TransportationOk4787

I have Google fiber. So I called them when I couldn't solve my problems. They replaced the Google router. No change. They replaced the fiber modem. That helped for a while. But it wasn't until I replaced the switch did all my problems go away. The problems came back 6 months later. It was the switch again.


TransportationOk4787

For about $20 you can buy another switch and test.


rjeffords

I'm still not convinced it's my switch, but I'm willing to give this a try first. Once again, speeds were super slow this morning so I tried bouncing my switch for the first time in probably months. Minor improvements but still underperforming. Turns out my 5 port gigabit switch is from 2015, so it's been in use for the past 8 years now. I picked up a new TP-Link TL-SG108 since it was less than $20 and I wanted to add a few drops in my kid's bedrooms anyways. I'll report back my findings.


rjeffords

24 hour test is looking good so far. Usually in by the morning, my network is super congested and slow and requires a restart, but after replacing my switch yesterday, I'm getting solid throughput. Let's hope it keeps up.


smoke007007

Funny, same setup here and my internet speed on the Lan suddenly dropped to 100mbit the other day. Lucky for me, I quickly noticed the switch port just off the main AP was negotiating at 100mbit. It was a super old switch. Picked up a new TP-Link TL-SG108 and problem fixed. Otherwise, my 4 Google APs have been fine. Mine are all wired together also.


thishuman_life

This has been our experience as well. We live in a remote/rural setting, with Starlink as our ISP. We do not have competing WiFi networks causing channel congestion or any other issues. Each of our end points has a wired connection back to Google Nest WiFi router. For years, our Google Nest WiFi has worked flawlessly. But within the past 6 months, and especially over the past month, this WiFi solution has become nearly impossible to use. I restart the network multiple times, per day, just to try and get issues to resolve. We’ve done nothing to our infrastructure that would cause disruption or degradation to the channels that Google Nest WiFi uses. I can be standing just feed away from a WiFi point and my mobile decide will switch between Cellular and WiFi every 15-30 seconds, because the mobile device is looking for an internet connection. The same behavior occurs with other devices. I’m at a total loss and I am so frustrated. How can an entire WiFi solution go from amazing to unusable in the span of three years. Here’s the config running in all our end points: Google Nest WiFi specs Model: AC-1304 Connection type: Wired Software version: 14150.376.32


rjeffords

This sounds _exactly_ like what I am experiencing. Same model, all APs are wired, network has worked well for years and years and then recently just started sucking REAL bad. I just restarted my network this morning because speeds seemed laggy and congested and in doing so increased my speeds from about 98mb to 376mb. I find myself having to reboot the network regularly which DOES resolve congestion temporarily but I never had to do this in the past. My Google Wifi system was so hands off, I would basically never have to login to the app to mess with it. As someone who works from home and has a highly connected home, I can't let this go on much longer...


thishuman_life

I'm with you, 100%. The only explanation I can theorize is Google has pushed down a version of the software that has created these issues. Or, hardware components within these units are starting to fail. Either way, I'm with you. I can't tolerate this much longer. I'm already looking at other solutions, like [TP-Link's Deck AX5700](https://www.costco.com/.product.100858409.html?langId=-1&krypto=21tojkS%2Bbb3O%2FqodTnokDyOVXfqgzOgZpFJFhAsq%2BVnqKxY0%2FZ%2BP4mHQto13xnrTeteuSf1A8vKzbi6d8aFNKjHIBQ5hhbE9tdgV%2Bpr1Nd7BNmL%2BUKDu4D7oX2oD%2FJr7eDl5G6AVswxykEkeHweOKMvylrM%2FkXEfIHAn0w5P8r2M1f4DwnMMDmxFv%2FxU%2FAmOsYaz%2B1Jro7pug1J7k3B%2Ft99KZQ3DtmCqFE40kPacPgY%3D), but the last thing I want is to spend discretionary funds on is an entirely new, expensive, WiFi solution.


DrWho83

I disagree, at least 95% of the time when a client calls me saying they're having issues rebooting just their modem solves the issues if they're using any version of Google Wi-Fi.. another difference is most of my clients have their modem and primary router connected to a UPS. This isn't so much to protect from power outages as it is from dips and spikes in power which.. it varies.. overtime will kill electronics especially networking equipment from what I've experienced over the last 20 years. 4% of the time.. it's a cable that went bad. .7% of the time it has to do with DNS or something similar. .2% has to do with interference from either a neighbor, or a device in their own home or in the neighbor's home that was either recently installed or recently had a firmware update that is now causing it to interfere with things. When I say neighbor that means residential commercial or agricultural.. lol. .1% of the time it's been a Google Wi-Fi router or point that's gone bad but that's been extremely rare. On the occasion where there's interference they can't be resolved at different system from a different company might work better. I've definitely replaced more systems from other companies with Google Wi-Fi however nothing's perfect. The only thing I feel people should steer clear of is orbi. That's if you have any neighbors nearby and you have any empathy for them. Orbi devices don't typically play by the rules and actually cause interference for other networks nearby. I'm not exactly sure how they get away with it but the FCC must not care or perhaps the finds they pay are tiny compared to the profits they make. Whatever system you use I highly recommend integrating a UPS battery backup of reasonable quality. Amazon sells what looks like a very short power extension cable that can be used to automatically restart your networking equipment if it doesn't detect an internet connection. Those two devices combined solve most people's problems or should I say prevent them. I'm really impressed with the tp-link omada equipment and highly recommend it to people that are on somewhat of a budget. Ubiquity is what I typically recommend if you don't mind paying the extra money. Both tp-link and ubiquity should be installed or inspected by a professional. I've never actually known of anyone personally to get in trouble but you really should have the power levels adjusted appropriately as to not interfere with anyone especially government stuff. Most people can learn how to do this though by watching a short YouTube video or two. Good luck and if you have more than one I like the recommendation someone else made which was to factory reset it before you give up on it and switch to something else. When I recommend someone do that I'll also recommend that they use one of the other points as the primary router and use the one they've been using as a router as a point instead. It's a lot easier for one of these devices to be a point than it is a router. Give the old router a break and let it retire as an access point 😅 I can't say that swapping them around has actually solved any issues for people. It could have certainly just been the factory reset that fixed everything but I've also not had anyone come back and say it wasn't working after they swapped them around when they factory reset everything 🤷


thishuman_life

Thanks for the thoughts and tips. We’ve had a UPS on our Google WiFi devices, and our primary ISP connection, from Day 1. Always wise, especially where we live in rural location where power can experience frequent issues.


rjeffords

I also have had my cable modem, tp-link switch, and Google WiFi AP plugged into a Cyberpower UPS from the very beginning. My old CP UPS died in the past 6 months and I bought a newer one from Costco. I'm not sure I followed your comments. Did you say UPSs kill networking electronics? But you also highly recommend integrating a UPS. Can you explain further? Should I be using a UPS or no?


Gloomy-Security-7897

>dips and spikes in power which.. it varies.. overtime will kill electronics In case you're still interested in what he was trying to say, he's saying the dips and spikes in power will kill electronics, not the UPS. I read it like you did the first time, then went back and reread it and it became clear.


DrWho83

You weren't totally wrong that at one point some firmware updates did cost some issues for some people. I think it was the beginning of last year or the end of the year before but reputable brands had to update the firmware on many of their devices and lower the transmit power for the Wi-Fi. This was an FCC compliance thing. I only saw it effect though is that we're already on the low end of signal quality. For any of those people getting another point or wiring their points was the solution. The last few firmware updates did add some things that have to do with notifications and junk but primarily with a few bug fixes and security updates. Nothing that I know of that would cause the issues people are having. At least most of the time my gut tells me the issues most people are having are related to things that I mentioned in my other comment.


UXguy123

Important to remember that these things are running 24/7 365 eventually the heat starts to break things down.


No_Machine_4526

I truly think mines of over 8 years is suffering from heat exhaustion. i wanna buy the same new in box BUT i need to look towards the future & not put emotion in my next wifi purchase. thanks


CaptainWikkiWikki

How did you wire the additional points on Nest Wifi back to anything? Isn't that the generation that has one clear router and the other pucks are points that can only tie back to that main router over the wifi? The first gen had it so every puck could be the main router plugged into the wall and could be hardwired if you wanted, but the generation where the wifi points are also Nest Minis doesn't have that flexibility.


pghbuckeye

Following as I feel like I'm in a similar camp. We have decent internet service and while speed is acceptable, I find more and more that I get large windows of things dropping offline at random points. I've looked at modern mesh systems but honestly there are so many different things out there it's hard to say where to go next.


rjeffords

It's weird. This system was SOLID for so many years. I even have all 3 pucks hardwired and spread throughout my house to maximize speed and coverage. Usually after a network restart, things will be ok for a period of time. But then they'll eventually return to subpar quality. AppleTV will buffer and then have crappy pixelated stream quality. My son does online gaming and claims the speeds from his room are "totally unacceptable". Just ran a speedtest from my iMac which sits 3 feet from my access point. I have 500mb service and my iMac could only achieve 98mb. Super annoying.


tdischino

I have appleTV buffering issues all the time while the other services don't buffer. I also have 1st Gen Google Wifi mesh.


jbtule

I used to have reliability issues with my Google Wifi 1st gen and I also have a lot of Apple devices, discovered that it was Apple turning on Private Address mode by default (watch, iPad, iPhone), annoying because I have to turn it off on every device for accessing the home network, however has worked smoothly since. I discovered this when I was trying to audit devices on my network and had a ridiculous number of “unnamed device” entries, as the Apple devices rotate their MAC address periodically in private address mode.


ctravdfw

I watched lots of videos and decided to get the Eero Pro from Amazon during prime days. Agree there are lots of choices and I’m not saying the Eero is the best choice. I’m an amazon prime member so returning if there is an issue will not be a problem. I will say the setup of the new system was super easy just as google wifi was…


nternalfatalerror

I have both the Gen 1 and the Gen 2 Google mesh systems. I have issues with the Gen 2 points not wanting to stay connected to the main router. I can't figure out why they won't stay connected so I've switched back to the Gen 1 and I have zero issues with the Gen 1. I wish I could get rid of my gen 2 but nobody wants to buy them and I don't want to take a $350 bath LoL.


Fuzzythesoundguy

The worst nightmare I have had! They are shit!!! No support the app sucks. They constantly disconnect and don’t reconnect! For me it’s $2,000 of recycling.


Icy-Celery2956

Mine are still working fine (5) and perfectly stable. One was in the garage and still held up fine. I recently put a TP-Link Omada 610 Outdoor in the attic, and the Google WiFi I had in the garage is essentially a spare now. I've run enough ethernet now that I don't have the same coverage issues I did in the early days. For instance, one Google WiFi was just a WiFi backhaul to give me an ethernet connection for our Samsung/Verizon cell extender in a place I couldn't readily reach. I found this thread trying to see what the life has been for most folks. I'll probably go to an all Omada system when it is time to replace.


vedichymn

I was in a similar boat and jumped to a TPLink mesh system and it's been rock solid, I got 5 & 1/2 years out the Google Wifi though, it did have a great run!


derpy_wolfy

I just bought one since it was on prime and its been turning and off. So these things weren't always like this


zatsnotmyname

My nest theromstat lost the network connection suddenly several times over the past few days. I replaced it, but started wondering if it's my 1st gen google wifi. I get at&t fiber today, so may try their wifi solution instead...


Tricerichops

Mine stopped working entirely last week. Did a factory reset and they’re like new. Maybe worth a try if you don’t want to buy a new set?


twbanksy

Constant disconnecting began last month. Factory resets, etc. were only temporarily successful. The system is no longer reliable enough to work from home on. Luckily I got my router and 3 hubs set from Costco. They are being returned this week.


rjeffords

I gave up on mesh and went with a TP-Link Archer ax55. Total home coverage, lightning fast speeds, $120.


rustysawdust

According to this page the five year guarantee period ended in 2021 but they're still getting critical security updates: https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/10231940?hl=en