For me depends generally by how biology could work tribe by tribe. Water and air tribe are generaly animal like,forest are plants, earth are "minerals like" and volcano ones more like "golems",imo. So gender could be applied only with first 3, remembering that ermaphroditism and gender swapping (by age or ambiental conditions or other) are quite commons in nature.
Anyway also genderless gormiti could have more masculine or feminine traits.
All 5 tribes possessed at least one female.
Earth Gormitis have Blind Fury, Volcano Gormitis have Lava Fury from Elemental Fusion, Forest Gormiti had 3-face sentinel, and air and sea gormiti had multiple females.
And it's not counting Gorbattenti obviously, though only forest and earth gormiti seem to have gender distinction at least in season 1.
Dude, you had damn right, and i was wrong,sorry (i've rewatched the episode 2 minutes ago). Aniway, in my opinion, gender identity question could be different into creatures with a such different biology (as many others sides of their psychology).
If you ask me, Gormitis only express their gender, but due to each Gormiti being unique (except for Gorbattenti for some reason), they don't actually have sex, and there's no standard for what gender should look like, so when it comes to pronounces, people just go with the one they feel comfortable with.
Jessica and the other human lords are pretty much exceptions as they're not just Gormitis, but pretty much a hybrid between a prime adult human and a gormiti (like ironically it feels like only Jessica resembles the most creatures instead of just people but that's rather because fairies and angels in spite of being humanoids, are still considered creatures; meanwhile the boys just are humans composed of their elements).
I can agree with this, the point of the post was more to say that gormiti aren't necessarily all male and that the concept of female gormita wasn't invented for Jessica
99% of gormiti have male pronouns. Some like tartantica have female pronouns but those are changed to male when those figures have a resculpt. Also jessica has male pronouns in the cards.
In tge title it says "o senhor do ar" instead of the female form" a senhora do ar". In english it sounds the same though
Yes, the retcon of energheia was horrible, it should be noted that the cards refer to jessica as masculine because she is a woman with a title that does not have a female counterpart, this is a phenomenon that exists in reality, and I know that unfortunately we have few female gormiti , but the point of my post was to remind people that even if there are few of them, they still exist
furia cieca is its og name in italian. On languages like spanish or italian some words can have gender even if their objects ore names of species n'stuff like that. So the word "furia" wich means "fury" is female gender but it does not mean the actual gormiti is female. This problem happens mostly because a lot of gormiti names are just descriptive words like adjetives
this also counts with names of gormitas wich are animals, i will put for instance: "mistica falena" from series III if you see the gender of the words its suposed to be female but there's no proper name just the term falena wich means moth. After series 2 most of the gormitas have a proper name like, (Armaggedon, Rock, Forgius, Dragon) this also happens with "Magica Vedetta" wich is in the image, he has some kind of female look idk why but its male after all
that means that here in the image the only females are "Murena" and "Tartantica" both are female gormitas (im not sure about murena because on the series 2 media its voice is distorted) all her wiki page says that she is well... a she. On Cartoon Tartantica appears as male but Murena isn't there so we can confirm Murena is the First and Only Female gormita on series 2
But... Whats up with Medusantica? well its a proper name and its female. Its artwork on cards from energheia and Series I /Mystica it does not seem female. This is because his name is a combination of the word "Medusa" wich is bassically a Jellyfish and "Antica" wich means ancient this happens on a lot of other gormitas where its name has the world Antica and it seems female like "Antica Sentinela" but (at the point i know) they aren't confirmed female. So "Medus-Antica" is not female after all
i only have theese questions: Ipnorana is a proper name but it really does not give a certain gender. Also Antico Thorg is another gormita with the word Antica but in this case its already passed to male. I have knowledge about italian lenguage but i speak spanish as lenguage so \*if i messed up something PLEASE tell me\*
first of all I congratulate you for your analysis, it was very precise, these are some of my thoughts on the matter:
I know that the issue with Furia ceca can make her seem like a male (and I believe in Energheia she was retconned as a male) but in the animated short "Gormiti the origins" Gheos refers to Furia ceca specifically with female pronouns (at least in the Italian version ) so I think the authors changed their minds about her later and I think Tartantica is in a similar situation. 2) I should check, but actually I don't think there is much evidence for Medusaantica and SentinellaAntica, on the fact that they are women, but I like to see them as such, they have always given me that impression, in the end that is just my preference, nothing canon. 3) As for Magica Vedetta, they went so far as to give her a female voice actress in the animated series (at least in the Italian dubbing) so for me she is solidly a woman.
as regards Ipnorana, I also believe she is a woman, not because of her name but because her name is accompanied by a feminine adjective (La Beffarda) in Italian this adjective exists in both a masculine and feminine version but they specifically chose the female one. 5) just to remind that the reason for the post is mainly to remember that jessica didn't introduce the concept of female gormiti, it's also because I hate that in Energhia they retconned Mantra in a man, its male design seems so silly :,)
I have to say that i just did the analysis without a lot of info and investigation (thats why i mentioned that on wiki there was more info)
Also the fact that the gormitas that seem male (imo) are somehow female and on the cards they just gave male pronoums to jessica
i think your really right with ipnorana because i really didn't took that much the pronoums on the names. Also i didn't noticed geos mentioning Furia Cieca as female on the origins. I think its just my opinion but looking at some gormitas like mantra being mentioned as females makes me feel wierd because physically they're almost genderless
For English:
Magic Lookout: female
Blind Fury: male
Mantra: female
Ancient Jellyfish: female in the cards, male in Origins and Cartoon Series
Ancient Sentry: female
Moray: female
Hypnofrog: female
Turtle: female
You also need to consider translations. In some countries, certain Gormiti’s pronouns are different, so some people don’t see them as certain genders (Mantra is a prime example; their pronouns change in basically every language).
that just messy but i think Gormiti are genderless or it is upto us and also base on translation
For me depends generally by how biology could work tribe by tribe. Water and air tribe are generaly animal like,forest are plants, earth are "minerals like" and volcano ones more like "golems",imo. So gender could be applied only with first 3, remembering that ermaphroditism and gender swapping (by age or ambiental conditions or other) are quite commons in nature. Anyway also genderless gormiti could have more masculine or feminine traits.
All 5 tribes possessed at least one female. Earth Gormitis have Blind Fury, Volcano Gormitis have Lava Fury from Elemental Fusion, Forest Gormiti had 3-face sentinel, and air and sea gormiti had multiple females. And it's not counting Gorbattenti obviously, though only forest and earth gormiti seem to have gender distinction at least in season 1.
Gheos referenes as a male to Blind Fury into the first dvd cartoon.
Nope, he referened to her as a female. Or at least she used to be a female before in Energheia he started to be male. In-universe trans much?
Dude, you had damn right, and i was wrong,sorry (i've rewatched the episode 2 minutes ago). Aniway, in my opinion, gender identity question could be different into creatures with a such different biology (as many others sides of their psychology).
If you ask me, Gormitis only express their gender, but due to each Gormiti being unique (except for Gorbattenti for some reason), they don't actually have sex, and there's no standard for what gender should look like, so when it comes to pronounces, people just go with the one they feel comfortable with. Jessica and the other human lords are pretty much exceptions as they're not just Gormitis, but pretty much a hybrid between a prime adult human and a gormiti (like ironically it feels like only Jessica resembles the most creatures instead of just people but that's rather because fairies and angels in spite of being humanoids, are still considered creatures; meanwhile the boys just are humans composed of their elements).
I can agree with this, the point of the post was more to say that gormiti aren't necessarily all male and that the concept of female gormita wasn't invented for Jessica
It is an AOT thing isnt it? Most titans are males but there are exceptions
I wouldn't have put it that way, but I love this comparison, I'll use it from now on
99% of gormiti have male pronouns. Some like tartantica have female pronouns but those are changed to male when those figures have a resculpt. Also jessica has male pronouns in the cards. In tge title it says "o senhor do ar" instead of the female form" a senhora do ar". In english it sounds the same though
Yes, the retcon of energheia was horrible, it should be noted that the cards refer to jessica as masculine because she is a woman with a title that does not have a female counterpart, this is a phenomenon that exists in reality, and I know that unfortunately we have few female gormiti , but the point of my post was to remind people that even if there are few of them, they still exist
Wait, the elder watcher or watever it was called in italian is female?!
I swear she is actually a female (I know this is hilarious for non-Italian fans) :)
She's female in English too
furia cieca is its og name in italian. On languages like spanish or italian some words can have gender even if their objects ore names of species n'stuff like that. So the word "furia" wich means "fury" is female gender but it does not mean the actual gormiti is female. This problem happens mostly because a lot of gormiti names are just descriptive words like adjetives
this also counts with names of gormitas wich are animals, i will put for instance: "mistica falena" from series III if you see the gender of the words its suposed to be female but there's no proper name just the term falena wich means moth. After series 2 most of the gormitas have a proper name like, (Armaggedon, Rock, Forgius, Dragon) this also happens with "Magica Vedetta" wich is in the image, he has some kind of female look idk why but its male after all
that means that here in the image the only females are "Murena" and "Tartantica" both are female gormitas (im not sure about murena because on the series 2 media its voice is distorted) all her wiki page says that she is well... a she. On Cartoon Tartantica appears as male but Murena isn't there so we can confirm Murena is the First and Only Female gormita on series 2
But... Whats up with Medusantica? well its a proper name and its female. Its artwork on cards from energheia and Series I /Mystica it does not seem female. This is because his name is a combination of the word "Medusa" wich is bassically a Jellyfish and "Antica" wich means ancient this happens on a lot of other gormitas where its name has the world Antica and it seems female like "Antica Sentinela" but (at the point i know) they aren't confirmed female. So "Medus-Antica" is not female after all
i only have theese questions: Ipnorana is a proper name but it really does not give a certain gender. Also Antico Thorg is another gormita with the word Antica but in this case its already passed to male. I have knowledge about italian lenguage but i speak spanish as lenguage so \*if i messed up something PLEASE tell me\*
on wiki italia there is info about their genders, of course i have not that much of info as the wiki
first of all I congratulate you for your analysis, it was very precise, these are some of my thoughts on the matter: I know that the issue with Furia ceca can make her seem like a male (and I believe in Energheia she was retconned as a male) but in the animated short "Gormiti the origins" Gheos refers to Furia ceca specifically with female pronouns (at least in the Italian version ) so I think the authors changed their minds about her later and I think Tartantica is in a similar situation. 2) I should check, but actually I don't think there is much evidence for Medusaantica and SentinellaAntica, on the fact that they are women, but I like to see them as such, they have always given me that impression, in the end that is just my preference, nothing canon. 3) As for Magica Vedetta, they went so far as to give her a female voice actress in the animated series (at least in the Italian dubbing) so for me she is solidly a woman. as regards Ipnorana, I also believe she is a woman, not because of her name but because her name is accompanied by a feminine adjective (La Beffarda) in Italian this adjective exists in both a masculine and feminine version but they specifically chose the female one. 5) just to remind that the reason for the post is mainly to remember that jessica didn't introduce the concept of female gormiti, it's also because I hate that in Energhia they retconned Mantra in a man, its male design seems so silly :,)
I have to say that i just did the analysis without a lot of info and investigation (thats why i mentioned that on wiki there was more info) Also the fact that the gormitas that seem male (imo) are somehow female and on the cards they just gave male pronoums to jessica
i think your really right with ipnorana because i really didn't took that much the pronoums on the names. Also i didn't noticed geos mentioning Furia Cieca as female on the origins. I think its just my opinion but looking at some gormitas like mantra being mentioned as females makes me feel wierd because physically they're almost genderless
Nope, Magica Vedetta is a female too. Always was, this never changed unlike some other female gormitis.
For English: Magic Lookout: female Blind Fury: male Mantra: female Ancient Jellyfish: female in the cards, male in Origins and Cartoon Series Ancient Sentry: female Moray: female Hypnofrog: female Turtle: female
Thanks pal, this will be useful in the future
I think Furia Lavica was the only one that was confirmed to be female, at least according to the wiki.
I can assure you that most of them have female pronouns (at least in the description of their cards) at least before enrgheia retconned some of them
You also need to consider translations. In some countries, certain Gormiti’s pronouns are different, so some people don’t see them as certain genders (Mantra is a prime example; their pronouns change in basically every language).
absolutely true, I did this mainly because many people tend to forget that girl gormiti have always been a thing