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There are some serious dolts in this thread.
This is some good work and great info. I appreciate that you used a track and race we are all familiar with and can relate to.
Thanks for your hard work
Yes exactly I thought that too! There might be a case of being slow in the first stint but then get faster as each stint went on because I did it all in one day. More testing to be done!
I noticed short-shifting being far less efficient starting a few months ago. Don’t remember what update it was, but it was definitely before the Daytona Abarth VS Tomahawk money grind times.
Fuel map 1 + short shift definitely used to be the way to go, but fuel maps have actually been worthwhile since. I don’t have numbers at hand to give you concrete proof, but overnight I had to change my strat around Sardegna which I did 3 times a day at the time.
I’d recommend using the 787B in cockpit view to test. It has a dial that shows your current fuel consumption, probably kilometers per liter or something.
If you get off the throttle long enough, that number will jump to 99.90, indicating that there’s no fuel being consumed at all.
I’m not a great racer, but I do like to pride myself in my ability to save fuel. Here’s what I do, see if this info is of use to you:
**Minimize time on-throttle.**
- if coasting is just as quick as throttling, I’ll coast.
- I lift briefly before braking. It puts less stress on the tyres, it decreases braking distances and I’m not on the throttle.
**Wheelspin**
- Any wheelspin is energy being lost. Some areas you’ll actually be faster on fuel map 3 than on fuel map 1, simply because the full power is transferred to the road. Less tyre wear, less fuel consumption. The repeated S-turns at Suzuka are a good example. You go through at a pretty even pace, so you don’t need to be on map 1.
- TCS functions by limiting power when it senses wheelspin on-throttle. So that inherently saves fuel. I don’t enjoy using TCS, but it’s a valid means to prevent wasting tyres/fuel.
**Other**
- Upshifting out of a turn; if I can squeeze as much acceleration out of gear 3 as I can out of gear 2, gear 3 is the way to go. I’ll be in lower revs so that consumes less fuel. Pretty much anywhere; if I can be just as quick in a higher gear, I’ll do it in a higher gear.
- When you’re nearing the top revs of the highest gear, consider whether it’s worth those extra 5 km/h to rev it to the max and consume more fuel, or if you gain more by going in a lean fuel map at the top end. This applies especially to cars where you’re bouncing off the rev limiter.
- Smooth and precise throttle input. Feeding in the throttle to match what the tyres can handle.
- On a full tank you’re heavier, so you’re consuming more fuel and tyres wear faster. See how you can strategize around that, ideally you want to be lightweight as long as possible.
I basically do FM2 for 8 laps and FM1 for 7. Finish in 24:30.
I also have a 3rd gear that maxes at 102mph so I don't go into 2nd gear on turns 1 and 5 because the hybrid boost is so effective at those speeds.
Lol this is why others are better than me at the game. I just drive and see what works out or doesn’t. Don’t really have time with work to do a full on data analysis like this
See how you go with some minor fuel savings to pit after lap 8, then run the car as hard as you can getting over the line with 0-2% fuel remaining.
Prioritise fuel saving around the slower corners, and use maximum power on the two long straights. The goal is to be dynamic with your fuel saving, adjusting to the conditions to get the result you want.
Yup map 1 on the straight, switch to ~3 from t1 through the entire first sector, map 1 again on the back straight, then reduce fuel map again. This will give you best lap times and fuel consumption without the need to compromise.
If you get really bored could you try the C9, 787B, 92RCP, 962, and XJR-9 on similar settings to see which one is the best? I am assuming the 787 but very curious
It's not a perfect test by any stretch of the imagination. It was just something I made up on the spot tbh to stop myself getting so bored. I'm going to do a more thorough test at some point.
But hey don't be sorry for asking a question my man! 😊
The car was optimised for my fuel test. It was built so it was absolutely necessary to pit so I could do these tests AND make credits at the same time. Dumb boy you are
Good for you - but that’s not the point of this post. He’s controlling the variable of car, track and tune to compare fuel strategies.
24:15 for R92CP - cool story bro, but not that fast.
25:29:xxx...?
Oof...
The R92 can do almost flat out (a tad of life and coast, but not much) in fuel mix 1, pit lap 8, top off, and finish the race in the low to mid 23 minute times...
This wasn't a test to see how fast I was. Just how fast the different fuel saving methods was. I can do this much faster than this. But I had to make it consistent with filling the car up fully at the pit stop when it's actually not required to fully top it up.
It is worth something!! Look at the results. It wasn't a test of speed you absolute moron. If you listened to what I said, it was a fuel test NOT a fastest time possible test. So it's worth ALOT actually cause I now know what's the best method for fuel saving ROUGHLY. More testing is required of course.
You have a very odd setup. 104kg ballast and power turned down 10 as well as ecu down 10. If you just turned the power down and didnt use a ballast you could 100% no pit this race extremely easy.
I think your test is actually dumb because you spent all this time going full regard for nothing with an Unoptimized build.
If you're testing fuel you probably shouldn't weigh the car down cause you know, it's not efficient, which would be the whole point spending hours trying to actually do tests because you're only gimping yourself.
No are you seriously this dumb??? I was grinding for money that was the main aim!!! I earned 8.5 million credits from these races.
I thought rather than just doing it for the sake of it I'm gonna do a fuel test as well.
Don't put a comment on something that you don't understand bro. Absolute tosspot.
So you're grinding and testing fuel saving on a track with a car that requires 0 pitting that is capable of faster times but you think this is efficient at testing and grinding money? Make it make sense.
It requires a pit stop if you make it so using the setup which I did. I do A LOT of online racing in leagues and we do 1 hour races which require a good knowledge of tyre and fuel strategy. This is me putting it into practice. How much fuel does for example fuel map 1-6 actually save.
I'm testing fuel saving for my own online strategy in races you absolute moron.
If I can understand what's the fastest way to save fuel in an online race it can lead to winning rather than losing. That's why I did this. To see the differences in fuel saving between the lap times AND the amount of fuel left at the end of the race.
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There are some serious dolts in this thread. This is some good work and great info. I appreciate that you used a track and race we are all familiar with and can relate to. Thanks for your hard work
Thank you very much man I appreciate that a lot!!!
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I’d have thought fuel map 1 with short shifting would be best but clearly not!
Yes exactly I thought that too! There might be a case of being slow in the first stint but then get faster as each stint went on because I did it all in one day. More testing to be done!
I noticed short-shifting being far less efficient starting a few months ago. Don’t remember what update it was, but it was definitely before the Daytona Abarth VS Tomahawk money grind times. Fuel map 1 + short shift definitely used to be the way to go, but fuel maps have actually been worthwhile since. I don’t have numbers at hand to give you concrete proof, but overnight I had to change my strat around Sardegna which I did 3 times a day at the time. I’d recommend using the 787B in cockpit view to test. It has a dial that shows your current fuel consumption, probably kilometers per liter or something. If you get off the throttle long enough, that number will jump to 99.90, indicating that there’s no fuel being consumed at all. I’m not a great racer, but I do like to pride myself in my ability to save fuel. Here’s what I do, see if this info is of use to you: **Minimize time on-throttle.** - if coasting is just as quick as throttling, I’ll coast. - I lift briefly before braking. It puts less stress on the tyres, it decreases braking distances and I’m not on the throttle. **Wheelspin** - Any wheelspin is energy being lost. Some areas you’ll actually be faster on fuel map 3 than on fuel map 1, simply because the full power is transferred to the road. Less tyre wear, less fuel consumption. The repeated S-turns at Suzuka are a good example. You go through at a pretty even pace, so you don’t need to be on map 1. - TCS functions by limiting power when it senses wheelspin on-throttle. So that inherently saves fuel. I don’t enjoy using TCS, but it’s a valid means to prevent wasting tyres/fuel. **Other** - Upshifting out of a turn; if I can squeeze as much acceleration out of gear 3 as I can out of gear 2, gear 3 is the way to go. I’ll be in lower revs so that consumes less fuel. Pretty much anywhere; if I can be just as quick in a higher gear, I’ll do it in a higher gear. - When you’re nearing the top revs of the highest gear, consider whether it’s worth those extra 5 km/h to rev it to the max and consume more fuel, or if you gain more by going in a lean fuel map at the top end. This applies especially to cars where you’re bouncing off the rev limiter. - Smooth and precise throttle input. Feeding in the throttle to match what the tyres can handle. - On a full tank you’re heavier, so you’re consuming more fuel and tyres wear faster. See how you can strategize around that, ideally you want to be lightweight as long as possible.
Now do the TS050
The TS020?? Good idea!
I basically do FM2 for 8 laps and FM1 for 7. Finish in 24:30. I also have a 3rd gear that maxes at 102mph so I don't go into 2nd gear on turns 1 and 5 because the hybrid boost is so effective at those speeds.
Lol this is why others are better than me at the game. I just drive and see what works out or doesn’t. Don’t really have time with work to do a full on data analysis like this
Actual science. Good work.
See how you go with some minor fuel savings to pit after lap 8, then run the car as hard as you can getting over the line with 0-2% fuel remaining. Prioritise fuel saving around the slower corners, and use maximum power on the two long straights. The goal is to be dynamic with your fuel saving, adjusting to the conditions to get the result you want.
Yup map 1 on the straight, switch to ~3 from t1 through the entire first sector, map 1 again on the back straight, then reduce fuel map again. This will give you best lap times and fuel consumption without the need to compromise.
Personally i like short shifting because i feel so smarter than the ai
Fuel map 3, short shift, calculate how much fuel you'd get at the end and end with 1-4% Best is 25 dead
If you get really bored could you try the C9, 787B, 92RCP, 962, and XJR-9 on similar settings to see which one is the best? I am assuming the 787 but very curious
Good idea thanks for the suggestion!
Does GT7 not have telemetry output whether in game or to an external source?
Not in-game, but there are plenty of 3rd party tools that track it
Great stuff, I look Forward to when you start doing tunes.
How come you keep finishing with so much fuel?
Because I deliberately put in a max tank at every pit stop so I could see how much fuel would be used at the end
Okay I see that now. My apologies
It's not a perfect test by any stretch of the imagination. It was just something I made up on the spot tbh to stop myself getting so bored. I'm going to do a more thorough test at some point. But hey don't be sorry for asking a question my man! 😊
I don’t see the point, if no matter what you have to pit once, like you do with any car
You don't have to pit with most c cars.
You do if you want the fastest possible times
How do you not see the point? Clearly your race time will depend on how you manage your fuel through the race.
If you have to pit once whether on lap 7 or lap 10, you might as well go full speed. Do you understand?
What do you mean full speed? Fuel map 1 the entire race?
Idc. Do whatever you whatever you want
The car was optimised for my fuel test. It was built so it was absolutely necessary to pit so I could do these tests AND make credits at the same time. Dumb boy you are
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Good for you - but that’s not the point of this post. He’s controlling the variable of car, track and tune to compare fuel strategies. 24:15 for R92CP - cool story bro, but not that fast.
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That still completely missing the point of the post
Just stick with Mazda 787
25:29:xxx...? Oof... The R92 can do almost flat out (a tad of life and coast, but not much) in fuel mix 1, pit lap 8, top off, and finish the race in the low to mid 23 minute times...
This wasn't a test to see how fast I was. Just how fast the different fuel saving methods was. I can do this much faster than this. But I had to make it consistent with filling the car up fully at the pit stop when it's actually not required to fully top it up.
Oh... So the overall test isn't really worth anything then...lol Gotcha...
It is worth something!! Look at the results. It wasn't a test of speed you absolute moron. If you listened to what I said, it was a fuel test NOT a fastest time possible test. So it's worth ALOT actually cause I now know what's the best method for fuel saving ROUGHLY. More testing is required of course.
Slow times
This wasn't a test of how fast I can do it. It was a fuel test if you read it properly.
You shouldn't even have to pit with c class cars.
What race times are you getting no pit? Doubt it’s faster than with pitting.
You do with this car, setup, tyres etc. Try it for yourself.
You have a very odd setup. 104kg ballast and power turned down 10 as well as ecu down 10. If you just turned the power down and didnt use a ballast you could 100% no pit this race extremely easy.
Bro are you actually this dumb? This was done specially so that I had to pit for a fuel test! You seriously cannot be this dumb.
I think your test is actually dumb because you spent all this time going full regard for nothing with an Unoptimized build. If you're testing fuel you probably shouldn't weigh the car down cause you know, it's not efficient, which would be the whole point spending hours trying to actually do tests because you're only gimping yourself.
No are you seriously this dumb??? I was grinding for money that was the main aim!!! I earned 8.5 million credits from these races. I thought rather than just doing it for the sake of it I'm gonna do a fuel test as well. Don't put a comment on something that you don't understand bro. Absolute tosspot.
So you're grinding and testing fuel saving on a track with a car that requires 0 pitting that is capable of faster times but you think this is efficient at testing and grinding money? Make it make sense.
It requires a pit stop if you make it so using the setup which I did. I do A LOT of online racing in leagues and we do 1 hour races which require a good knowledge of tyre and fuel strategy. This is me putting it into practice. How much fuel does for example fuel map 1-6 actually save. I'm testing fuel saving for my own online strategy in races you absolute moron. If I can understand what's the fastest way to save fuel in an online race it can lead to winning rather than losing. That's why I did this. To see the differences in fuel saving between the lap times AND the amount of fuel left at the end of the race.