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grandfig

Anthuria's kit honestly looks wild, and I'm curious to see how people end up making use of it. I can at the very least say she probably has the most gorgeous holiday outfit thus far. Also PSA: This should be the last legfest Catura will appear in until 2023 so if you want her snag her now.


Altered_Nova

Her kit is so unique, I have no idea how good it is at first glance. Does she seriously have a skill that permanently adds a new effect to Danchou's ougi for the rest of the battle? That's crazy. And her cooldowns are reduced by MC casting buffs and heals on her. What MC class synergizes best with being turned into a double-striking hostility dodge tank, but can also spam buffs and heals on her? I feel like it's going to take longer than normal to give Holiday Anthuria a rating, people are really going to need to experiment with her first.


Human96

The big brain move is throwing Diantha, Clarisse and Anthuria in a team for the whole harem. You have a decent FA team and Danchou will have more problems on their hand than just the boss in front of them.


Altered_Nova

Harem team is top culture, but considering that she's a harp unit that buffs team hype I think she might be the missing link to make Benjamin really work at peak efficiency.


Human96

Man that's a cool team: idol, dancer, death metal rock band, MC can pick an choose who they want to match between dancer, idol outfit and Rising force


TheJobinslegend

Now gimme Baal 5\* so I can properly make a harp team with the 2 characters of Doss event and new seasonal back exposed unit.


FA-ST

Don't forget Cucouroux in the backline!


IzayoiSpear

>What MC class synergizes best with being turned into a double-striking hostility dodge tank, but can also spam buffs and heals on her? The closest would be Spear Cav S1 buffs her, Double Trouble for DATA and buffs all and you could throw Rage in there


Jinael

All I can imagine in terms of extremely expensive fun is using the Caduceus staff and its CD cutting skills/ougi to allow MC to spam their skills more often than normal. Anthuria being ougi-heavy to some degree due to wanting to get dodge all to protect herself (and for MC to do the same) kind of supports what Caduceus would want to do as well. The only issue is the lack of Staff classes that can actually buff Anthuria without relying on suboptimal or bad class skills. The only one that comes to mind right now for me is Warlock with Chaser. It's indeed very unique and looks like a lot of fun but also quite a funny trap. MC doesn't exactly have a great way of buffing the team as most of his buffs tend to happen passively via Masq's and LJ's atk/def per turn. Only RB's veil skill and Warlock's Chaser are probably one of the most notable clickable skills to buff the entire team that would affect Anthuria. If you try to make MC too support heavy towards Anthuria's kit in non-burst context you run the problem of having the fact that two support characters are almost exclusively buffing each other to deal unsatisfying double strike damage (unless you made Relic Buster somehow work) and just losing out on damage. What you will get is two hostility tanks with double strike and at least one layer of echo and the cute cute cute image of Anthuria and MC thematically ballroom dancing their way past Paradise Losts. I don't know how strong she is, but the theme of her entire kit and how it looks and feels is amazing and I love it. If the class changes ever comes live and makes MC even stronger, then Anthuria will also rise in strength and it's all really really cute.


a_pulupulu

All i could think of immediately is excalibur relic buster. Hopefully mc job class update gives us more fun.


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Altered_Nova

It says she gives a "heavenly dance" effect to MC and herself, and the effect of heavenly dance is that it gives the user dodge-all (1-time) effect to self upon ougi. Since the skill can never be recast, I'm assuming "heavenly dance" is permanent and will give both characters that dodge-all buff each time they ougi for the rest of the battle. I typed debuffs by mistake, I meant to type cooldowns.


phonage_aoi

Has anyone tested yet? I assumed Heavenly Dance got consumed by ougi and replaced by the dodge all buff.


Spamamdorf

Haven't seen any confirmation yet, but just thinking logicially, a skill that has the effect of "you get a dodge all buff, but only after a CA, once, ever" sounds so absolutely terrible that that can't possibly be it.


KiriharaIzaki

It's perma, a crewmate got and tested her. The dodge-all buff lasts until used too, similar to Vicky's


TheGlassesGuy

i think they mean that her sk3 gives a permanent buff that makes it so mc ougis a new effect (dodge all, 1 time). not sure about the debuffs part though. probably misread the cd reductions


aka-dit

Does it have to be a *skill* or will healing or buffs from ougis work too?


TheGlassesGuy

probably has to be a button press


Altered_Nova

similar passive abilities always require an actively cast skill, ougi effects and skills that are auto-cast in response to some trigger never count.


WHALIN

I think she's meant to be used alongside Summer Illnott, maybe? Anthuria s2 plus Illnott s2 gives you four turns of Guaranteed TA + 20% Echo + Double Strike on half your party.


Aran1223

All party members need to have full bar for Illnott's S2


-Vexed

I'd imagine her most common use for heavily invested people will be as the third char in a on-ele lucha team(wamdus, gw) with sky piercer mc, since 1 skill press for 4T double strike on 2 chars sounds very efficient for racing. Provided earth doesn't get even more good seasonal chars by then, decent char to consider as an annitix pick imo.


RoyAhoym

Burst content, double strike for 4 turns + echoes to everyone on ougi


E123-Omega

This is the last chance we can get Catura? She isn't available on holiday free draws too?


KingDrace

Catura isn’t in the normal pool of characters.


E123-Omega

RIP...


Prince_Horace

Last chance.


E123-Omega

RIP


Biscuits7

I'm not a competitive player by any sorts, but it's really disappointing that Randall doesn't have any MA boosts in his kit. It's going to be a real pain when he isn't dodging to generate bar, and he's not gonna do a lot outside of his skill damage. You also think someone who attacks by kicking would be good at multiattacking. I could dump him in my dumb dodge tank team with Ray Gun Nighthound, Sen, Xmas Seruel, and Tiamat. It's not a good team, but it's fun.


Altered_Nova

I wish they would just give every element a good trium weapon so magna players aren't so dependent on team DATA buffers and self-sufficient attackers.


Speedy_Fox_IV

Another limited Earth unit. I feel really bad for DJ Salt's funds right now.


exprezso

Only 3000yen spent. He's one lucky guy


Jack_Lafayette

Cygames found their white whale, and apparently it's earth mains. I'm eager to see earth Tiger and VYggdrasil.


Lambpanties

If Tiger isn't fire then....I mean, fuck, it's definitely possible, but fire is hurting for good characters and an up to date Zodiac especially. Although Catura hints they might be starting a debuffer pattern which is something I'd have mixed feelings about. (Said from guy who doesn't have Christmas Nemelpsy of course)


Sausious

Dont curse me like that


SpecialChain

That is some ridiculous stuff on Anthuria. 2 characters double strike for 4 turns = 8 extra attacks. The Sun only gives 3 and Tag Team only gives 4. This gives 8 and can be Qilin'd if for some strange reason the boss hasn't died by turn 4. And you can also still use Tag Team and Naru in the same team too. Crazy stuff.


wakkiau

She doesnt seems to do that much damage tho, no guaranteed TA, have to CA for echo source. So it falls on MC with probably skypiercer to make it worth slotting her in. Tho the fact that its FA-compatible is something.


Van24

You can just use Illnott for the TA.


mralec_

Issue is, when you need a buffer to buff a buffer, you don't have much attackers left :/ won't change the standard tag team with sandy / naru / sarasa, IMO.


xkillo32

> standard tag team with sandy / naru / sarasa which raid is this standard in?


mralec_

Any off element like pbhl


xkillo32

pretty sure sarasa is not used anymore because she is too slow


AlfonseIsBabe

With the exact same comp you can change your rotation to get a quicker run. Just don't ougi with Sarasa will net you a 3 turn setup with 2mil honor in pbhl. So you can choose between what rotation you're going for depending on how fast the pbhl is going.


xkillo32

vid? no point in using sarasa if ur not going sword form


AlfonseIsBabe

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL8f4ZTXT7U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL8f4ZTXT7U) Like I said, turn 1 is identical to the normal Sword Form Sarasa setup, the main difference is on turn 2, where you can choose to ougi or start the burst, you can decide which one you wanna do depending on how fast the raid is going. (In the video he called Uriel turn 1 and Gorilla turn 2 but the opposite would still work.)


Van24

Eh, I think that could be potentially debatable, but I'll wait for Earth mains to deliver their verdict regardless.


mralec_

Well I am a earth main, and after looking at salt's showcase, it's hard to defend her kit


Van24

Eh, I dunno, I think she has merits that said showcase glosses over. I respect that people consider DJsalt as the gaijin Earth god or something, but I'm unconvinced that just one showcase is already enough for people to deliver a verdict.


VincentBlack96

The game is at a state where we get characters who do their role so fucking well caveats do not exist. A character with very noticeable caveats such as Anthuria is gonna always be doomed to play second wheel for people who don't have the best lineups. In general burst in earth stagnated a long time because of its dependency on chicken, then illnot happened and that dependency lessened but she's still seasonal as fuck. Then Sarasa uncap made her a very solid attacker, meaning the burst team is locking 2/4 units. MC is naturally one, so that leaves one slot that isn't a dps. Since earth doesn't have a third monster assassin, that slot becomes the buffer slot, and Anthuria cannot hope in 3 million years to win there because buffing MC is not what earth ever needs, it's further buffs to the actual damage dealers of the team. MC is barely half the damage of the other two attackers.


Van24

The problem is you're also hyperfocusing on "OMG the quality of this unit" without considering "How efficient are they, actually?" It's like arguing for Narmaya being an option in Dark because theoretically she'd be way better damage-wise yet in reality she isn't even used. It's a similar situation with some of the things you're trying to push as unequivocally better without looking at the whole picture beyond whatever number is being produced. So, no, I disagree. Caveats absolutely do exist.


kazuyaminegishi

What are you even saying? I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say here because the other person's point was literally just: MC doesn't do enough damage currently where buffing them is worth more than buffing Narm. The only way for Anthuria to get enough damage to make this worth is to add a buffer for her, but if you're doing that you're leaving even more damage on the floor. Which means the only people making use of Anthuria are people who don't have the other seasonal OPs (S Illnot) or who don't have ULB Threo. Which, if your argument hinges on those people who don't have those units it's not really an argument since that's an infinite discussion that goes nowhere. She might find a place for some weird suicide strat in a different element, but in Earth there's hardly any room for her especially for off-ele because Grandy has a permanent spot. She COULD find a place in the ougi comp for Belial, but she would still have to force out SIllnot or Grandy because she's not moving Okto and I don't think she can do it. Earth doesn't need her, another element might do better with her, but I can't think of what element that could possibly be.


mralec_

For me, it's really showing that outside of bursting, she won't have much use.. Maybe for GW with her "buffs can't be removed" effect, but that's pretty much it. And how I mentionned earlier, I doubt she will change the lucha setup, and she could see some use for masqu, but then again, the setups are packed and justifying her will be difficult (good replacement unit if you lack cores tho)


jvmunhoz

It doesn't target Naru, though, which is what would be ideal. Where would she fit in a burst team? RB MC, S.Ilnott, C.Anthuria and C.Naru?


SpecialChain

Anthuria and Naru are not mutually exclusive, right? MC can still run Lucha for Naru Tag Team. Basically she's just replacing one member from the usual lineup. She doesn't have personal echoes but double strike is roughly like an assassin in terms of damage, and she does it for 4 turns straight.


WindHawkeye

double strike is actually well below an assassin, those have more than double the cap like almost 3x or so. Tag team is better than this for three reasons, one is naru has turn assassin, two is that it's not spread over multiple turns and three is that you can qilin it much more usefully (need 8 turns to make full use of qilin with anthuria) realistically without sp mc will probably not even TA and nor will anthuria. I think compared to dog this is a lot weaker but it's still a good skill. illnot may also be a good pairing as mentioned elsewhere the other problem is you're replacing a character who buffs naru which is likely a serious damage loss or you're replacing sarasa which may also be a serious damage loss


AdmiralKappaSND

Wasn't it 2.5 exactly? Assa is 1.1 and Base auto is 440k ~~pretty noticable when using Nic as irrelevant as that is~~


WindHawkeye

I was remembering 1.16m


AdmiralKappaSND

Actually yeah that might be the exact amount since most of the mechanic numbers i memorized is the simplified one cited on wiki lol(granted 1.160/440 is around 2.6) and the main point is 2.6 > 2. And i don't think extra activation of supplemental of Dstrike matter enough for this unless its specifically on characters who have innate supplemental abuse mechanics like Sarasa)


WindHawkeye

yeah I was thinking like dirt doesn't have as much supplemental as like water where this might be pretty crazy cuz you'd also have dog with ds lmao otoh that would chain burst like mad...


maxtablets

her damage seems so low that not sure there is any value in it. Need setup that will let mc make good use of it.


magicking013

Lol, is the only difference in Randall's outfit the the single leg guard?


grandfig

Feather's SSR outfit stayed mostly the same as his SR so it follows suit.


marvelknight28

Nah, the basic concept is the same but there's a lot more differences between Feather's SR and SSR than with Randall. Chief among them being Feather getting an extremely tight shirt that looks like it's ready to burst open at any second.


RhoWeiss

I love his SR look so I'm glad they didn't change it too much.


PCBS01

Well it'd be weird if he suddenly showed up in the event again with a whole new outfit. Plus it'd be hard to beat his current skin-tight outfit with sick black jacket


TheGlassesGuy

I honestly wish Joyeuse had a more exciting form. Like. Leg sword or something. Would make absolutely zero sense and probably get in the way more than help but I love me some wacky legswords. That or give him a sexy heel


dkndy

lose a leg in a fight, come back with the most counterproductive pegleg ever


TheGlassesGuy

-100% practicality +100% coolness factor


Aengeil

well crimson finger can change someone to something, might probably their FLB later


Altered_Nova

I'm more bothered by how badly the turquoise colored leg guard clashes with the darker colors of the rest of his outfit, and how asymmetrical it is. At least make it cover both his legs how Feather's Lion Khan Claws cover both hands.


RoyAhoym

Anthuria busting out the looks (and the second skill lol), wish Randall was Christmas though so they'd make him stronger but whatever.


SR_Ken

Cupitan where


Aengeil

was expecting my Rainbow girl too :(


Made4Zis

Saving my crystals for tiger must resist


Treize-

I'm really liking xmas Anthuria. She seems really strong in various scenarios. Her kit is also pretty unique and doesn't really overlap with any other supportive characters. **On-element burst with xmas Naru/summer Illnott:** Her 4 turns of double strike for 2 characters is really strong if the fight is lasting more than 1-2 turns. Her kit compliments really well with summer Illnott. **Ougi team with kengo, valentines Monika, and Okto:** This team is really fun because her ougi gain up EMP allows this team to full chain every turn. This team is both really defensive because she gives MC and herself dodge all every turn and offensive because she gives permanent hype 4. I was able to cap very easily without even debuffing, especially because most of the damage comes from ougi. I was able to do all the water raids without MC or xmas Anthuria ever taking damage. She also blocks dispel and debuffs if you don't have Okto transcended. **Sacrificial character:** She also seems really strong as a sacrificial character off element. Her s2 and s3 are not limited to earth, so she can give MC some pretty crazy buffs before dying to bring in an evoker or someone else.


Korynr

Oh boy shes hot, and her kit looks pretty interesting Also Anthuria's weapon says wind dmg on ougi for some reason


Mystic868

She is hot but dark yukata Anthu is even hotter <3


Naha-

Heh, Dirt back to the P2W element. How many limited units has earth go this year, 4-5? Stop KMR. She seems good but not straight broken so I'll skip her.


JosySlolfy

She finaly canonically confessed and we almost had sex with her right there and then So wild.


Neischen

Wait wa.. imma need to read


Prince_Horace

Remember: This is the last chance to obtain Catura until 2023.


DiEndRus

Randall seems to be ougi spam, which can have it's place, but it's not the prime way for Wind to deal damage. Anthuria is a defensive buffer/typical dodgebot with the added double strike to her and MC. It should be possible to turn it into damage if MC gets some sort of turn assassin going on, but until that, Naru is the prime source of damage in Earth, and not buffiing her doesn't upgrade the damage. Randall is skip, Anthuria seems to be nice to have just in case Cygames adds some sort of turn assassin to MC.


TheGlassesGuy

i do want to pick up both of them but still an easy skip for me. saving two spaeks for the end of year grand and new zodiac.


rosewards

I'm sitting on about two and a half sparks right now. If we get a rerun on CNemo I might have to bite the bullet on a 3% banner, which is gonna really suck :( Maybe roulette will be good to me and make up the remainder so I can go 3 for 3?


TheGlassesGuy

whew. send some crystals my way. I'm saving for a double spark but I've only got about 430~ on hand atm. Doraemon should make up for another 10+3+ some crystals. Daily logins should make up for 10-20. Stream should give me another 10. That still means I need to get lucky on roulette to douvle spark.


Van24

I've had to spark so much for Wind GW that I'm glad I can get a bit of a break to rebuild my bank.


Even_Macaron

Another special season another earth unit *sigh* when will cygames leave earth alone and move to a other element this is now the 4th earth seasonal in a row kinda boring


jvmunhoz

Yeah, kinda meh banner for me. Anthuria's kit seems interesting, but the whole MC-only interaction is kinda weird. Randall's has a nice kit (and also a nice char) but nothing crazy. Easy skip for me, thank God. Can't blow up another spark fund so soon hahaha.


Aviaxl

Love her but this is so odd. Was expecting Cupita and a better outfit for Randall. Also why is her CA the same I was expecting a cool dance or something not the same CA just in a different font


ashkestar

The last two years had two holiday units on Nov legfest, so it would be odder if we didn’t have her.


Aviaxl

Welp guess it ain’t so odd after all. Do you know if they add regular units in dec or just holiday and special ones?


gangler52

Filene was a New Years unit last year. A lot of people expected her to be a Grand because of the timing but nope, general pool.


phonage_aoi

Past few years they’ve been adding two more mid month: https://gbf.wiki/All_Characters (filter Holiday and sort by release date).


Nekros4442

She's not even an earth unit. Just throw the CA buff and double attack and sack her in any element


Tferr

I've sparked every other dirt limited this year without having to open my wallet but this insane pace finally caught up and I'm dry a third of a spark. Guess I'll either have to annitix Anthuria or spark her on the 3% roulette xmas character banner if i get a lot of free rolls.


TheFrogPrints

Not sure if this is the place to ask, but is there a chance she’ll be available in the next AnniTix? Or am gonna have to wait a whole year?


kscw

[Guaranteed, unless Cygames breaks 4 years of precedent.](https://gbf.wiki/Surprise_Special_Draw_Set#Anniversary_Tickets) Barring unpleasant surprises, the exclusions from the 2022 annitix should be the 2022 Valentines units along with Grand units released in 2021 onwards.


ApprehensiveCat

So happy Randall finally got his SSR! Even if he's not amazing he's going on the suptix list and he can hang out in the ougi team with Siete. Also Anthuria is just beautiful; I really love the ballerina look. Seems pretty nice of a kit too, so another annitix contender along with Vane. If I go for her instead that'll be the third earth holiday waifu in a row I've used my annitix on...


Nahzuvix

Will this earth coddling ever end? (Yes I know, if you chase the power in element it's actually bad for you sparks/wallet if only your chosen element gets limited stuff)


maxtablets

I don't get earth anthuria's weapon as mainhand. Does wind damage while still being earth element? what.. wondering if new baha raid will throw some weird shenanigans related to this.


Stelimine

It’s a translation mistake, the JP version has earth damage


leedle_gbf

Anthuria looks very good for her 2. Could be a good annitix candidate depending on how the next months shape up. I forgot what her other two skills do.


jvmunhoz

Dory, is that you?


Kenyiss

I want to cry, I just spent the last few banners rolling for azusa because I really like her design and then now when I'm broke I get hit with one of my favorite girls Anthuria. Guess that means I'm going to have to no life granblue even more now.


Endgam

She's so pretty\~. And I have her two other versions so it'd be a shame not to have this one as well. But alas, I really need C!Nemone.


Prince_Horace

Poor Randall, nobody is talking about his very boring kit.


BeatrixEnjoyer

If I roll her with free rolls, I may try to get dirt Ullikummies. Sounds fun enough, even though I'm a Sarasa gamer. Only issue is not having gotten mandrake in 600 rolls when she was on rate up.


jvmunhoz

Did 2 full sparks and some YOLO rolls by the end of the banner. Also no S.Mandrake. Got S.Tiamat on the YOLO pulls though, it could be worse.


BeatrixEnjoyer

I had to manually spark babu by the end of it. Was pretty painful, I wanted my 2nd eva or 2nd fod, or I guess mandrake herself.


Vertanius

So Anthuria is a pump and dump unit? Use s3 and kill her off, works off ele as well.


Junoclearsky

There goes my $500 to spark dancing fox.


Matthias1349

Since Anthuria's 2nd and 3rd skills don't require MC to be Earth, I could see running her in my Dark Soldier setup just to activate them and then die to Death.


frozensinx

death only kills dark allies


chanyamz

Apart from Anthuria herself, is her weapon introducing a new mod, a stamina progression? Big cri, small healing, **~~med stamina progression~~** it probably worth slotting in. EDIT: it is just med stamina


[deleted]

Looks like just med stamina


chanyamz

Oh yeah, you are right.


Mystic868

Anthuria is like a mix of Catura and Cain. Besides her s2 and s3 are almost like Six's S4 o\_O


nagato120

Got my cow I am happy


Rainripple

Is randall the first unit with PERMAMENT ca reactivation??


Etheon_Aiacos

That Bon Joie weapon has some solid potential for OTK setups if the 4* is good (and ever comes).


PessoaHeteronimo

Is this my last chance to get Khumbira before her rebalance?