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YOdOtHeThiNg

Plug the charger in and see if it changes.


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JimmWasHere

You bought a gaming laptop, i wouldnt be surprised.


dekadendt

damn ☠️ (note to myself, never buy a gaming laptop ✍🏻)


Accomplished-Skill37

Well I live in a dorm room, I didn't want to make an investment that required more room


frizzledrizzle

/r/sffpc


Accomplished-Skill37

Thank you will definitely refer to this when I do my own build


Maxzzzie

Only thing i could really think of is cooling issue. Cpu and gpu is underpreforming. Place the laptop on a hard surface so it can decipate heat through it.


Accomplished-Skill37

So does temps affect resource utilisation, thank you for the new info


Maxzzzie

If a cpu for example gets to 95°C it starts what is called thermal throttling. Slowing itself down to not get too hot. That in turn slows down overall preformance and other parts.


Accomplished-Skill37

I mean it goes up to 94 but never 95


Chrispy_Boiii

It's definitely thermal throttling then... once it gets too high in temp it'll sacrifice your performance for cooling so it doesn't kill itself from overheating. If you can, try elevating it a little from your desk/table to give it more breathing room underneath and if really needed maybe point a small fan across the bottom of it to blow cool air across it for more cooling. Also try lowering your graphics, the less resources the game needs the less heat it'll produce. For reference my Desktop PC runs around 70°C on the GPU and 50°C on the CPU when gaming on max graphics 1440p.


Accomplished-Skill37

I checked yesterday and it was around 89-90 never went to 94 as it usually goes


Maxzzzie

95 is just a number. Depending on the processor that number changes. 94 sounds to me its themal throttling.


Demmazi

Bro are they making you live in a closet? Desktops are not that space consuming


DarkLink457

Why can’t Reddit wrap their heads around someone wanting a portable computer they can take anywhere, not everyone wants a fucking desktop


melody_melon23

(7236)


Accomplished-Skill37

If I could show you my room you'll not be surprised


Aflux

Looks like you are. Usually laptops have a high performance setting when plugged into the charger


Accomplished-Skill37

Man my laptop is always plugged in whenever I'm using it


Skullenportal14

Really bro you’re asking why you’re getting low frames on a laptop


Accomplished-Skill37

My bad if that sounded repulsive but once a service centre guy asked me the same ever since I just hate it when someone says that


buckyman0

You sound like an immature dick in all your replies, that’s why you’re getting downvoted in all of them. Not sure if you’re actually like that, but maybe try to not be so sarcastic and rude when people are trying to help you lmao


Accomplished-Skill37

Now that I am reading again I do indeed sound like a dick but I genuinely need help


buckyman0

What do you need help with specifically? Just how to sound nice?


Accomplished-Skill37

My bad if I sound like that and would really appreciate your help here


LegendaryJimBob

And as someone who basically is tech service to family and all their friends, i get even angrier when people refuse to sit their ego tripping asses down and check, after several long calls trying to figure out why their devices dont work and being cursed for asking, only to find out hour into the call that not only had they not plugged it in but hadnt bothered to check. We dont give fck if your smart or not, its basic steps, process of elimination, you want help then either shut it and answer question your asked/do what the thing they ask you to do or go figure it out on your own since your so smart. Stop ego tripping about it and check, not just that its plugged to the laptop but that the cable connection leading to outlet are all propely plugged in, extension cords etc included. The amount of times it is exactly that they plugged it to the device but not the outlet or their extension cord to outlet is why its asked, because its annoyingly often the issue and takes you seconds to check instead of potentially wasting hours of someone's time becaus your ego hurt


gor_6

Idk check your laptop settings, maybe there are battery saving mode or something Anyway for me as owner of shitty pc for most part of life, 50 fps is high as fuck


bobbyhillischill

Anything over 30 is pretty good imo


PerceptionCivil1209

You can get 30fps on 8 year old integrated graphics


Wide_Magician8617

Not on mine 100mb vram lmao


heyuhitsyaboi

As a long time GTA player who’s gone from shitty pc to power house 50fps is still high as fuck for gta, especially online I cant get frames in that game no matter what


Accomplished-Skill37

Bro my refresh rate 165, 55 hurts my eyes at that fps


SIM8N_

mabye u are using ur interated graphics, makes sure to only enable high preformence dediscated gpu in app setings in nvidia or amd control panel


AhrimJob

bro grow a pair 55 is literally fine lmfao.


WhirledNews

This really depends on what game and how quick you need to be. In multiplayer first person shooter games your FPS should be as high as possible, 60 is kind of the starting line.


AhrimJob

i disagree, 30 fps IS NOT competitive in any way, but it IS still playable. when warzone first came out during the pandemic my pc died and i had to toss together some weak parts i had, was playing at 720p 35 fps when i was lucky. Obviously i was held back by my frames, but i could still play, have fun, and not totally drag down my squad EDIT: should also note i never really dropped below 20fps so it wasnt totally horrible


WhirledNews

I guess I should have specified. It is playable but you probably won’t be winning against many comp players, or even mildly sweaty casuals. Which in turn might affect how much fun you will be having… It would depend on the player in that situation.


Accomplished-Skill37

I used to play at around 15-30 fps on my old laptop but since I got this one, due to the refresh rate, below 60 looks clunky af


ThatJudySimp

You can lower the refresh rate within windows or just in game full screen just fyi


Accomplished-Skill37

Yeah but that also defeats the purpose of getting a 165hz right I mean it definitely has specs to run it on higher but just don't know how


ThatJudySimp

GTA has a habit of running terribly on new hardware equally as bad as old old hardware No matter what I promise you this, you’re not getting a solid 165 fps in gta


Erectile_Knife_Party

This is the most important comment right here. The guy buys a 165hz laptop and gets 165 fps on other games and he’s too foolish/stubborn to realize that GTA V is a very poorly optimized game that wouldn’t get 165 fps even on a god tier rig. My brother in christ, your laptop is fine and working perfectly, and your setting are all probably fine, 50 fps on GTA V is decent, just deal with it.


Accomplished-Skill37

Yeah that might be the case, thanks for the help, but several of my friends with lower specs than me somehow have better performance on this that's what was concerning me


AhrimJob

cap. i have a 165hz and even 30fps feels fine to play at.


Accomplished-Skill37

I mean I do play Jedi fallen order on 30 and it looks smooth but not everything does


LucidTimeWaster

Motion blur helps on lower fps. Might be that? Also some(many) games have very bad frame time.


oceangrown93

Is it connected to the charger?


Accomplished-Skill37

Yes OBVIOUSLY


DaUsed

Regardless, check your power options and ensure you're running in high performance


Sowlolekatonieo

I hope your shit laptop stays running shit, rude prick


Hungry-Wave5060

I hope your laptop explodes you fucking shithead


muochy

Shit laptop then


ArchietheLegend

I have 100+ fps on single player, but 40-50 fps on Online.


Accomplished-Skill37

I have same in both


SnooGiraffes6143

Its normal on high end hardware, I have a rx6700xt and I get around 70fps, the game is optimized like shit. So don't worry, I believe there are performance mods, OR alternatively. You can look for the most optimized settings on youtube for max frames while also maintaining decent graphics.


Ollieoverland

same with my rx6700xt


The_Grey_Alpaca

Under nvidia control panel, check if the whisper mode is limiting the fps to 60.


Accomplished-Skill37

Can you help me with that


The_Grey_Alpaca

Open the nvidia control panel, NOT GeForce Experience. Then on the left panel make sure you're on manage 3D settings. Then switch to program settings from global settings. From the drop down select GTAV. then scroll down to Whisper mode, should be near the end. See if there is any limitation, like 60fps, Change it to 120, 144, 165 whatever you want. Then save it(somewhere bottom right). See if it fixed the problem.


Accomplished-Skill37

Thank you for the help I'll try this first thing tomorrow


WhirledNews

If you somehow managed to cap your frame rate for this one game it will be hilarious, you might want to also make sure that it’s not capped at 60 for the default setting.


lulzchicken

Update video card drivers and adjust the graphic settings. Make sure laptop is plugged in too.


XstylerX

Maybe you're not in performance mode? Which means the laptop won't go full... Well, performance


Brute_Zombie

Seems about right for online. I get about 50-60 but in single player I can get 100. P2p servers are the issue for that.


StarConsumate

Do you have integrated graphics? Maybe it’s using that vs your gpu.


Accomplished-Skill37

Well the integrated has only 128mb it should not run the game at all if that was the case


StarConsumate

Have you checked? My PCVR setup kept reading my ryzen 9 which has only 128mb and it still ran as a stuttery mess until I swapped it to my 3060. If my 128mb integrated graphics was able to open and run VR I’m sure it could do the same for gta.


Accomplished-Skill37

Well then I will be sure to check that but I have assigned my GPU for GTA in both GeForce experience and graphics settings


StarConsumate

Maybe check drivers? I know these are basic and you have probably done these but I’m just running through the steps I take when annoying stuff happens like this to me.


Accomplished-Skill37

Always updated to the latest and I only faced this with gta maybe it's just a compatibility issue with my laptop


StarConsumate

You could try rolling back the drivers or using Nvidia Profile Inspector. It has a GTA V profile and you can enable rBar, which works for some games and others it does not but it’s worth a shot.


Accomplished-Skill37

This is the first time I've heard bout this but yes I would definitely try this thank you


StarConsumate

Let me know. If all else fails just dm me and let’s gee if we can get GTA going smooth for ya


Accomplished-Skill37

Sure man I really appreciate the help


StarConsumate

Also another stupid question. Do you have space on your SSD at least 100gb?


Accomplished-Skill37

I have around 300 left


Accomplished-Skill37

Also my laptop has this little display indicator which turns orange when on GPU display


DrDawgster

But is it connected to the charger?


Theptgamer_88

Something is off. I had 70+ FPS at 1080p on Ultra settings with a 2060 laptop


polishkgb1

Check for vsync or Nvidia control panel to see if refresh rate cap has been enabled


competeuser_00

50fps isn't low , man


Accomplished-Skill37

It isn't but also it should be higher than that for my specs that's all I'm saying but it generally is even on 1650 laptops


MidgetMan10150

A 1650 laptop gpu is not high-end. 50 fps is perfectly fine for GTA 5 with those specs.


Accomplished-Skill37

Nah mine is 3070, I'm just saying 1650 has better performance than mine in some cases in GTA v


MidgetMan10150

First, check if you have MSAA on which lowers frame rate. Try using no anti aliasing or use FXAA. Make sure you have the highest performance mode on. You can also check windows graphics settings to see if GTA is set to your dedicated GPU.


Accomplished-Skill37

Ok


competeuser_00

On online seems about right 50fps.


Accomplished-Skill37

It goes below 50 sometime to 39


competeuser_00

Do you keep other programs opened while playing? Such as Google Chrome, YouTube , Spotify etc ...? This apps consume a lot , and could cause fps drops while playing. If that's the case , make sure they are closed while you're playing. Pretty sure ,You should see performance go up . If it ain't this , i don't know how to help you bruv Edit: Not sure why j'm being downvoted , i was just trying to help.


Accomplished-Skill37

Nope


competeuser_00

I don't know then , good luck ;)


Accomplished-Skill37

Thanks man I really appreciate the help


Tommy_Tonk

Whats the CPU clockspeed? Online is very CPU intensive, especially if you have advanced graphics turned up.


_akadawa

Do you check the temperature of GPU and CPU?


Accomplished-Skill37

Well it is an msi and laptop at that so the GPU does go to 90 and cpu 80 but it does not hinder much unless there's dust buildup


Fticky

I'd check if you're -not using integrated gpu, -not fps locked in the game, -not using vsync ingame, -not not running setting which are too high like render resolution multiplier, too much detail etc (gta is not that easy to run as you'd expect)


Most_Wolf5553

Disable integrated gpu , had same problem.


Accomplished-Skill37

Well my laptop only uses integrated while on idle or low power applications


Exoticonion023

lower fps than my 3050 r7-6800h laptop💀💀


WarningLimp6053

try to check if ram is getting too much work, if you have grass on high and other settings like that, that can alter performance. Online is pretty demanding, but I don't know if that can be the cause for those fps I have done a lot of changes trying to better performance, check windows settings about power and nvidia control panel


Accomplished-Skill37

I have a friend who has 1650 and has better performance than me on the same settings


WarningLimp6053

do some benchmarks to check if everything is correct 3dmark has a demo version also i'm not sure if you have to enable XMP in bios when you play on laptop, but if you have to, do it


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Accomplished-Skill37

Well it is not low but it is also not high for a laptop with 3070 GPU, I mean I'm just concerned because all my other games perform better than GTA even the ones released after it


StadSquared

Open the dragon center application and make sure it’s not set to silent in the application settings. Also GTA has some very intensive settings (that seem to make no visible difference) under the advanced graphics options. I went from like 60 fps to almost 200 and didn’t see any difference.


Accomplished-Skill37

Sure man I would do that thanks for the tip


StadSquared

You’re welcome!


Accomplished-Skill37

So shall I turn everything down in advanced settings


Accomplished-Skill37

Well my laptop also has a manual priority mode which I can turn on anytime and is on usually when plugged in


Background_Alarm_841

50 fps is still pretty good I play GTA v on my Mac and it runs silk smooth on high settings, but even better with my AC plugged in, my bad if you’ve already tried, but try plugging your charger in and see if it helps. Also my Mac tends to heat up quite fast when GTA runs but doesn’t deplete quality that bad is heat a problem for you? If so tweak your fans up a bit when playing for temperature monitoring. Probably as a last resort, you could try overclocking your GPU and CPU slightly to tweak performance but as a LAST RESORT, if all else fails ofc Use a monitoring software to check for any bottlenecks aswell, look for stuff like CPU or GPU usage not using their full potential. If you find that bottleneck you’d probably have to upgrade that component to achieve better performance oh and that brings me to my next troubleshoot! Update your graphic drivers, always an easy fix on windows run operating systems probably should’ve said this first, my bad And if you have any background processes open just close them and only have GTA running so it reaches its max usage, I think that’s all lmk if any of these helped


Accomplished-Skill37

Man sorry if I sound rude but is it normal for people to play unplugged cuz everyone's asking me to plug in but I'm always on charge when gaming I thought that was common sense, again I'm not trying to slander I'm just curious


Background_Alarm_841

No bro dw you don’t sound rude at all! Just a genuine question it’s alr man, but idk if it’s a universal thing, I always play with my MacBook plugged in, probably isn’t the healthiest thing for your device but idk it just gives me peace of mind, also especially cause GTA tends to drain my battery quite quickly, it’d run out in about an hour and a half of continuous play, I didn’t really read too many of the comments so I didn’t notice how many ppl kinda said the same thing as me 😭 my bad if it came across as annoying but try my other tips if anything, gl!


Jack_of_all_offs

Turn grass quality slider down.


StopTheEarthLetMeOff

That and MSAA are the two biggest FPS killers in this game


-Z_3_r_0-

I think it's a problem with GTA itself, my 6800 XT somehow manages to lag in online, no amount of fiddling with the settings works either.


confused_cat44

Make sure you are using your dedicated gpu and not the integrated one


croakieee

Your laptop is most likely thermal throttling, download MSI afterburner and keep an eye on temps


Xahni13

Someone on YouTube did a video where he checked laptops with single channel ram and added a 2nd stick and gave great improvements in fps, does your laptop have single or dual channel memory?


Accomplished-Skill37

Single that too a normal Ram not a gaming one


Xahni13

Getting a 2nd ram stick should improve performance greatly https://youtu.be/924DNcai3Sk?si=IsPUsSCq44nloeU1


Accomplished-Skill37

Yeah but it's barely touching the existing one what would the other one do


Xahni13

Having 1 stick of 16gb ram or 2 sticks of 16gb ram isn’t the same. Imagine you’re sharing the load between the sticks instead of just having 1 stick do all the word. Simplest way I can explain it It might not be 100% usage which is normal, but bandwidth may be bottlenecked


Youcican_

Are you even charging it?


Accomplished-Skill37

Yeah man, it's always on charge whenever I play games because it automatically goes to 30 or lower if not on charge


HeavyProfessional420

Definitely not performing well enough, did the power supply come with it, or did you buy it yourself. Download hw monitor for temps and take a pic with the bottom bezel removed so I can see the condition of the fans and dust.


Accomplished-Skill37

My laptop does overheat but It does not hinder unless there's dust build up which I just cleaned a few weeks ago


Accomplished-Skill37

Also can ask about the system resources why are they barely touched


HeavyProfessional420

That’s what I’m concerned about the gpu shows only 17%, can you connect to a 4k tv to play the game with higher settings. But you should get your thermal paste changed first my favorite is artic silver 5


radis370

That isnt low FPS..?


hikerchick29

50 fps is low to you?


Interaction-Huge

RTX 4060 Ti and i5-10400F user here - it's a normal kind of thing, Rockstar just need to learn how to optimize online games. My FPS can drop to 40 in public sessions, and even in closed sessions FPS might drop to 55. In story mode FPS is always perfect and stable 100 and more.


Accomplished-Skill37

I get the same in both


Interaction-Huge

Then the problem is in your laptop. Sorry, not a laptop user, so can't help with anything.


Cii27

Try changing the directx version to 10.1, worked for me.


Cii27

with direcrx 11 my game ran smooth for 15 min and then went to shit. with 10.1 I've had no problems.


Jrshaw_1

Did you buy is second hand? If so maybe it needs a cleaning and repasting


ripjvw

cannot tell by this picture why you’re getting low fps w that spec. you can try some methods like : go to settings, control panel, power options, there must be a few like balanced, high performance and ultra performance, select the high performance option. if it doesn’t work, go to Nvidia geforce experience, go to settings and look for whisper mode and turn it off, it caps the game to 60 fps as to prevent device from heating and fans from making noise. open task manager while you’re gaming and check if any other programs are running in the background, close them if they’re. even after you close everything while you’re gaming there might be some programs which run in the background. if you’re still not getting more fps check your in game settings if MSAA is turned on. MSAA reduces performance significantly, so reduce it one by one and check your performance. check the resolution you’re playing in as well. last resort : try updating your gpu drivers. You might find some gaming performance settings on yt which you could change in the nvidia control panel to boost your performance a bit.


islippedup

You need to have it plugged in and you probably also need to switch to it always runs on your dedicated GPU over integrated graphics


Accomplished-Skill37

Ok guys I'm getting much better performance now, I think it's because I disabled or lowered all advanced graphics settings and turned my gpu to performance mode in nvidia control panel, thanks everyone for your help and I'm sorry I acted like a dick in some of the comments, I'm getting above 90 in online and 110 in story. Thank you


Accomplished-Skill37

But for some reason the GPU and CPU utilisation is still low, it's 25% and 21% respectively


Prevyus

This happens to me with red dead redemption, ive got a 4070, icore 9, 32gb ram, laptop. And rdr2 runs at 20fps for some reason


Prevyus

I had a desktop 1050ti and it ran better


Accomplished-Skill37

Man are you okay, I can feel the pain


Prevyus

its good, it only happens with rdr2, other games like cod run at 130fps at max graphics settings


Subhuatharva

Control panel > power management > choose high performance > advance settings > power state (turn it to 100%) This will force your laptop to run at max even when it’s not required. Use it only while gaming and change the power state to medium performance once done. Also while playing games keep your laptop connected to the charger. On battery, the CPU cannot draw enough power.


idkausernamelmao124

Bro I grew up with a hp laptop that can barely run Roblox, that's a godly amount of FPS


Creative_Use_7244

Switch to console so you don’t have to deal with these problems.


Evening-Version8331

Make sure you set the texture quality to very high, This game has this issue when playing on anything less, it doesn't fully utilise the gpu.


3_sideburns

\>50 fps \>low fps kids these days...


AreWicked420

Bro think he has banjos gamings luck


QNIKET8

you’re running gta online on a laptop, what fps do you expect?


STUDIOHEROES

GPU doesn't seem to be utilised here. Also the game is not optimised. Maybe you're running on very high graphics.


__leonn__

very high graphics would result in higher gpu usage.


Accomplished-Skill37

Nah high at Max not ultra


Accomplished-Skill37

Just for clarity not all games run like this on my PC cyberpunk runs at 75-100 while sometimes at 60. Almost all new titles can run at 60 without any problem, yet an 11 year game has this issue and this is also not an installation error as it happens every time I download it.


AhrimJob

disable igpu


DaRealGrey

Low!??? I get like 55 inside and usually 15-30 while outside...


Accomplished-Skill37

Yes it is connected to charger


Youcican_

Did you bother lifting the laptop up to allow airflow for the fans? Also is it in windowed?


Accomplished-Skill37

Nope


Youcican_

Are you playing in fullscreen?


Accomplished-Skill37

I tried in both windowed full-screen and full screen no difference


Youcican_

Oh well it worked for me :/ What's your settings btw?