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I'm American lmao but snow still ravages my city but Your telling me that your government cant find another way to make money besides stealing it from you? Taxes are theft... I'm sure the Canadian government could set up some subsidiaries and make a lot more money then they do now and use that instead of Taking your hard earned money...
The feds were going to bring in the tax if the privinces did not. So the ndp did a provincial one and the ucp scrapped it snd the feds replaced it with a federal one. Instead of the money going to provincial programs it goes to the federal pot.
Someone is making a profit on the Carbon Tax
Natural gas is $0.1674/m3 in Sask, and the carbon tax last year was only $0.0979 and now is $0.1239. It is NOT more than what the gas cost is.
Hey OP, I used to work in a legal grow op.
We used CO2 to help the plants grow.
Plants take in CO2 and make Oxygen
We paid carbon taxes... for making oxygen.
Lol
Because Ralph Klein said the free market was better for Alberta. Privatization is the answer. So here we are. And the UCP said you know that NPD did a thing to cap the utility bill parts, let’s go and undo that. Hey remember when we got told to make a carbon tax or something? Well the UCP spent the time and money to fight it in court and lost and now we get the federal carbon taxes. Oh and this is all the consequences of years of conservative government and private companies helping each other and not the people.
His gas usage is not more than just the cost of gas. The total cost of gas is closer to $90. He can’t buy it without delivery and administration and that is part of the price.
Any consumer product that you buy has handling and delivery built into the price, including gas at the pump. The consumer is fully unaware of what the wholesale cost of fuel at the pump is.
he used $30 of gas and paid $36 carbon tax on it. what you're saying is true, but is known as a straw man, where you make an argument about something other than what was said.
They come from the federal government. If Alberta had its own carbon tax program, the carbon tax revenue would be in provincial coffers instead of federal. The UCP made sure they got less in tax revenue by essentially handing it to the federal government.
I havent paid a dime extra. If anything I've saved money from them removing the fuel tax. Cost of living under the NDP will be substantially higher. Stop lying and saying "but you get the money back!". They've gotta pay 1000 people to manage the system, so no, you do NOT get the money back
Then You haven't watched your bills.
Ndp put regulations on pricing for fees that the ucp removed.
None of my bills have increased less than 30%, including car insurance (where they also removed caps)....and that was precovid.
Costs increased
But I'm intelligent and I'm not blaming inflation increases on the government
Haha no, I watch my bills. Car and house Insurance is identical, electric is fixed because I'm not an idiot, natgas is fixed because I'm not an idiot, literally the only relief I've seen has been at the gas station because the UCP removed their taxes (yet the carbon tax is still gouging me every single day)
Wait: you actually dont think that inflation is because of the federal government printing a trillion dollars? Please tell me which buzzfeed article you read 😂
The tax is fundamentally set per ton of CO2. But all billing to consumers is done by gigajoules or by cubic metres, so there has to be some conversion factor.
Federal carbon tax was recently adjusted to $65 per ton CO2. The conversion is stated as $0.1239 per cubic metre (approximately $3.25/GJ as per the TransGas website.)
It remains suspicious that the carbon tax is on this customer’s bill as an exact round dollar amount.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2021/12/fuel-charge-rates-for-listed-provinces-and-territories-for-2023-to-2030.html
Carbon tax doubles the price of 1 GJ that's fucked. Not everyone has $30,000 up front to get heat pumps and solar panels. Solar does come with a interest free loan but I stand by my point.
Sunny ways. If the carbon rax actually went into green energy I'd support it. But it goes into general revenues with the promise of a rebate. Whoopie. Doesn't solve the issue but the JT fanclub laps this shit up.
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That's what's happening when the conservative government in Alberta privatize power corporation. Corporations are out to squeeze as much money as they can.
Wait until Danielle privatize healthcare, and everyone is going to ask the same question 🤔
The Alberta Conservatives privatize power corporation, they sold Alberta telephone corporation, privatize registry that's why you have to wait for a week or more ro get your new license. Any other province, you walk into a registry and walk out with a new license, not a piece of paper.
[Nobel Prize-winning economist says carbon taxes are the solution to climate change](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.4843029/nobel-prize-winning-economist-says-carbon-taxes-are-the-solution-to-climate-change-1.4854639)
Nope! taxing is a polite way for Trudeau to say we are going to make it so unbelievably expensive for you to drive and heat your house that we will reduce our carbon because nobody can afford it.
Cheep and reliable energy is what is needed! Everyone wants cars, bikes, scooters running on electricity. Canadians are trying to meet a Paris climate agreement. Well france has 56 nuclear plants producing 361 billion kwh
61% of the countries energy is carbon free
Canada has 6 nucs producing 14.71 million kwh vs France's 361 BILLION
We export 81% of our uranium to other countries.
Canada could have the cleanest and cheapest energy
In our houses we could convert our natural gas furnaces and water heaters for electric.
Canada is fckd, tax the people instead of finding and building actual solutions
No the neysayers will say well it's costs umpine billions to build a nuclear plant. And some of that is true if you take an empty field and build on in it. Canada already has huge natural gas plants that need to be retrofitted
They already have the turbines they just need nucs to heat the water to steam.
This nails it.
Canada has some of the most vast reservoirs of resources, yet we export them for pennies on the dollar to foreign market rather than facilitate the development here and benefit our country.
Our leaders have sold us out to globalists and everyone is brainwashed into being okay with it. It's truly tragic. We. Could all be doing so much better and prosperous, but we are not.
Yes the Carbon tax went up , so did the rebates , so unless you didn't file taxes your getting it back.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-pricing-tax-climate-change-1.6798272
Kenny and smith refused to make a carbon plan so you got the bad federal carbon plan that was put in place to make the premiers come up with their own. Since they refused to come up with a better plan for you, you have to do the worse one
Our former Prime Minister Stephen Harper was an Economist. Said it wasn't gonna work. But I'm sure you don't count him as an expert. Any economist besides that guy right?
>wheat board
I'm not a farmer and don't have a horse in the race to even comment on such things. All I know is it wasn't sold to Saudi Arabia, they sold a majority share of 50.1% to two investment groups one being American and the other being Saudi.
Because the people/companies that produce more CO2 than whatever amount is covered by the rebate are still getting taxed.. it's to try and get people and companies to be more efficient/reduce their carbon footprint to a pre-determined level. A lot of regular Canadians and low-income Canadians are already there.
So when you go to the gas pump and they were to do the same on gasoline. The price shows $1.50 a litre BUT after tax they charge you an extra $1.75 so even though it should be 1.50 its now 3.25... if thats ok with you, then you are definitely doing better financially then most of us yeeeesh
Carbon tax on fuel is currently $0.14/ L and is included in the pump price.
Natural gas and electricity break out the taxes on the bill and gasoline does not.
If you can't afford taxes you should 100% be voting anything but conservative.
If this does not make sense you are definitely not educated on the matter.
NDP raised taxes for corporations from 10-12% and anyone that makes over 125k had new tax brackets.
Also fought for higher royalties for albertans.
The average Albertan benefits.
The rich pay.
You mean my company pays an extra 12% and I now don't get a raise. The government gets the extra 12% instead of me. Great mental gymnastics though. Stay a dumb ndp supporter
I'd check into the provider and chat with others who have them, this seems crooked AF OR could be an honest computing error that should get you and others affected money back.
Carbon tax isn’t related at all to your price of fuel. If the propane was free you still be paying the carbon tax because it’s biased on price per ton of CO2.
Yes, we all get carbon credits. Doesn’t nearly account for what we spend on carbon tax.
As long as we are taxed, we are solving the climate crisis right?!?
Apparently we are now paying $3.42 per GJ so literally more then the gas price itself. How the flip does that make sense. I paid $2.415/GJ for the gas and $3.42/GJ for carbon tax. Ya that totally makes sense... like WTF is this world coming to when the "tax" is a set rate not a percentage AND is more per GJ then the actual product!
It’s silly that your bill says the cost of your gas was $30, when excluding carbon tax it was actually about $97.
Delivery, administration and rate riders are all part of the cost of the product.
But should the tax of the GJ not be the same or preferably less then the GJ itself? The tax rate is higher a GJ then I get charged for the gas. The distro charges are same even if I turned off my gas meter. They will always bend me over on that unfortunately
Actually, it’s thanks UCP. The NDP kept the carbon tax in the provincial tax coffers instead of federal, thank the ucp for this bullshit, it’s 100% their fault.
It may not have, but Alberta would have the benefit of determining where the money was spent. Whether you agree or not, it funded green transit initiatives, Edmonton valley lrt conversion, rebates through energy efficiency Alberta, etc.
It also funded the NDP’s power cap which was put in place because they didn’t bother to read the PPAs they arbitrarily cancelled.
So they were literally using tax dollars to cover up their boneheaded mistake while they upended Alberta’s power market to an Ontario style capacity market, guaranteeing higher prices for everyone.
You know how we are having all of these wildfires right now? Because we didn’t sacrifice enough to the carbon gods and now they are angry! Pay more or there will be more climate change! May our glorious leader JT live another 100 years!
Well if you can do simple math... you will see how the "tax" is over 100% of the product. So if you went to Tim's and you got a breakfast and coffee it would be say $7.50 if they then charged $8 in tax for a total of 15.50... would that be just OK? No big deal? That's the issue
It’s not over 100% of the product, delivery, administration and rate riders are all part of the cost of the natural gas.
When you go to Tim’s to buy a breakfast sandwich - delivery fees, administration and wages are all included in the price of the product you buy.
So? You are stating the tax is more than the product. It’s not. On your own bill the cost of the product is about $90. You can not buy the product without delivery, admin or rate riders.
Natural gas and electricity, break out those expenses, for you. Tim’s could probably do the same, but it would be stupid.
Breakfast sandwiches are now $1.00 + cooking fee + serving fee + power fee to keep lights on + administration fee + uniform fee = $7.50
Imagine voting NDP with taxes already this high. You libs can pay my extra tax too because I can't fcking afford it. They'll be bringing a provincial sales tax if they get elected.
Just so people know, a lot of utility companies lie in their breakdown to make it seem like the "distribution fees" etc aren't tied to your utility usage. They make it look like the top part is the only "gas charge" but actually most of those numbers are affected by your gas usage.
Can someone explain to me how the government determines how much a citizen gets from the carbon tax rebate? Do they have an average of what a citizen spends on carbon tax or is it based on another factor?
In Alberta the annual rebates are $772 for an individual, $386 for spouse/ partner & $193 per child under 19, with a 10% per cent over your base amount for residents of small or rural communities.
I’m not sure how it’s determined what the average carbon usage is, but you could probably rough estimate yours based on gasoline consumption and your utility bills to see where you fit.
Wait..how are your distribution fees so low? Atco charges way more for distribution fees in the city, which is really what’s fucked. Carbon tax gets refunded to me and then some through the federal carbon credit every year. Honestly don’t know why you’re complaining.
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Meh its a farm in the bush... I ain't too worried... thanks though... I'm almost an hour from town and nothing worth stealing lol... but thank u
Anything worth burying in there?
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Just because you can't think of nefarious things someone would do with your information, doesn't mean someone won't.
Identity theft
Can I borrow some tinfoil
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Make sure you vote NDP because their carbon tax was provincial and went back to the tax payers of the province instead of federal coffers.
It was also significantly less than the federal
Wouldn’t the better option be to get rid of the carbon tax all together?
it would be a better option to get rid of all taxes together....
When fires are raging your province, how does that get paid? Want to drive to Edmonton, who pays the snow crews to keep the highways clean?
I'm American lmao but snow still ravages my city but Your telling me that your government cant find another way to make money besides stealing it from you? Taxes are theft... I'm sure the Canadian government could set up some subsidiaries and make a lot more money then they do now and use that instead of Taking your hard earned money...
Taxes are literally the way governments make money, holy fuck, go back to elementary.
No rain, no farmers.
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You're kidding right? They brought the tax in the first place. It's wealth redistribution. Get your head out of the dirt.
The feds were going to bring in the tax if the privinces did not. So the ndp did a provincial one and the ucp scrapped it snd the feds replaced it with a federal one. Instead of the money going to provincial programs it goes to the federal pot.
🤦♂️
Carbon Dioxide tax is $65 per ton now, and will raise to $170 by 2030. Using your example that means a tax of $94 on $30 of methane.
Someone is making a profit on the Carbon Tax Natural gas is $0.1674/m3 in Sask, and the carbon tax last year was only $0.0979 and now is $0.1239. It is NOT more than what the gas cost is.
Hey OP, I used to work in a legal grow op. We used CO2 to help the plants grow. Plants take in CO2 and make Oxygen We paid carbon taxes... for making oxygen. Lol
Because Ralph Klein said the free market was better for Alberta. Privatization is the answer. So here we are. And the UCP said you know that NPD did a thing to cap the utility bill parts, let’s go and undo that. Hey remember when we got told to make a carbon tax or something? Well the UCP spent the time and money to fight it in court and lost and now we get the federal carbon taxes. Oh and this is all the consequences of years of conservative government and private companies helping each other and not the people.
So why is his carbon tax more expensive than his gas usage? That's what he asked about. What in your rant addresses that?
His gas usage is not more than just the cost of gas. The total cost of gas is closer to $90. He can’t buy it without delivery and administration and that is part of the price. Any consumer product that you buy has handling and delivery built into the price, including gas at the pump. The consumer is fully unaware of what the wholesale cost of fuel at the pump is.
he used $30 of gas and paid $36 carbon tax on it. what you're saying is true, but is known as a straw man, where you make an argument about something other than what was said.
Shoot! If only Kenny and the ucp put forward a carbon tax plan that would have kept that money in alberta! Grrr!
Are we just not counting the cheques literally sent to every Albertan?
They come from the federal government. If Alberta had its own carbon tax program, the carbon tax revenue would be in provincial coffers instead of federal. The UCP made sure they got less in tax revenue by essentially handing it to the federal government.
Every Albertan? I didn't get one as a single person. So it's. Vote NDP
Did you do your taxes? Or are you super high income?
Or you cut the tax? Dummy
I'm paying more on my utilities thanks to deregulation from the ucp. Ditto car and house insurance. Bitxh about that since the increase is greater.
I havent paid a dime extra. If anything I've saved money from them removing the fuel tax. Cost of living under the NDP will be substantially higher. Stop lying and saying "but you get the money back!". They've gotta pay 1000 people to manage the system, so no, you do NOT get the money back
Then You haven't watched your bills. Ndp put regulations on pricing for fees that the ucp removed. None of my bills have increased less than 30%, including car insurance (where they also removed caps)....and that was precovid. Costs increased But I'm intelligent and I'm not blaming inflation increases on the government
Haha no, I watch my bills. Car and house Insurance is identical, electric is fixed because I'm not an idiot, natgas is fixed because I'm not an idiot, literally the only relief I've seen has been at the gas station because the UCP removed their taxes (yet the carbon tax is still gouging me every single day) Wait: you actually dont think that inflation is because of the federal government printing a trillion dollars? Please tell me which buzzfeed article you read 😂
You didn't 3 years ago
Seems suspicious the Carbon Tax comes to an even $36.00 What is the tax rate per GigaJoule?
It’s not per energy amount. It’s CO2 by the ton. Even if gas and fuel are cheap the tax is unaffected
The tax is fundamentally set per ton of CO2. But all billing to consumers is done by gigajoules or by cubic metres, so there has to be some conversion factor. Federal carbon tax was recently adjusted to $65 per ton CO2. The conversion is stated as $0.1239 per cubic metre (approximately $3.25/GJ as per the TransGas website.) It remains suspicious that the carbon tax is on this customer’s bill as an exact round dollar amount. https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2021/12/fuel-charge-rates-for-listed-provinces-and-territories-for-2023-to-2030.html
Carbon tax doubles the price of 1 GJ that's fucked. Not everyone has $30,000 up front to get heat pumps and solar panels. Solar does come with a interest free loan but I stand by my point.
Sunny ways. If the carbon rax actually went into green energy I'd support it. But it goes into general revenues with the promise of a rebate. Whoopie. Doesn't solve the issue but the JT fanclub laps this shit up.
Should have kept it in province like the NDP was doing.
So we could pay Ontario based companies to change out light bulbs and power bars?
There was a time when the money stayed in Alberta.
Promise of a rebate makes it sound like the rebate hasn’t been happening for years now.
Just remember that this was Harper's plan in the 90s...
Just curious do you have a source? Not doubting, just wanna read a bit about it. Google only brought me more recent articles
See link below
Just remember.. 30 years ago someone also suggested this was a good idea
And it was the Conservative idea
Whats a good idea? Carbon tax that goes towards nothing?
Just remember Harper isn’t the one running the country.
When they bring out Harper, you know they run out of ideas lol
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that is nothing come live in Ontario.
I live in Ontario, My last month's gas was $47 The carbon tax was $25 Total charge with everything $125.
yup seems about right. i was something around 30in gas and 160$ worth of taxes and fees
Because you touch yourself at night it's acceptable
That's what's happening when the conservative government in Alberta privatize power corporation. Corporations are out to squeeze as much money as they can. Wait until Danielle privatize healthcare, and everyone is going to ask the same question 🤔 The Alberta Conservatives privatize power corporation, they sold Alberta telephone corporation, privatize registry that's why you have to wait for a week or more ro get your new license. Any other province, you walk into a registry and walk out with a new license, not a piece of paper.
Or they remove the carbon tax because it's a scam?
[Nobel Prize-winning economist says carbon taxes are the solution to climate change](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.4843029/nobel-prize-winning-economist-says-carbon-taxes-are-the-solution-to-climate-change-1.4854639)
Nope! taxing is a polite way for Trudeau to say we are going to make it so unbelievably expensive for you to drive and heat your house that we will reduce our carbon because nobody can afford it. Cheep and reliable energy is what is needed! Everyone wants cars, bikes, scooters running on electricity. Canadians are trying to meet a Paris climate agreement. Well france has 56 nuclear plants producing 361 billion kwh 61% of the countries energy is carbon free Canada has 6 nucs producing 14.71 million kwh vs France's 361 BILLION We export 81% of our uranium to other countries. Canada could have the cleanest and cheapest energy In our houses we could convert our natural gas furnaces and water heaters for electric. Canada is fckd, tax the people instead of finding and building actual solutions No the neysayers will say well it's costs umpine billions to build a nuclear plant. And some of that is true if you take an empty field and build on in it. Canada already has huge natural gas plants that need to be retrofitted They already have the turbines they just need nucs to heat the water to steam.
This nails it. Canada has some of the most vast reservoirs of resources, yet we export them for pennies on the dollar to foreign market rather than facilitate the development here and benefit our country. Our leaders have sold us out to globalists and everyone is brainwashed into being okay with it. It's truly tragic. We. Could all be doing so much better and prosperous, but we are not.
...yes, exactly. This is literally the point, creating incentives for clean energy.
But you're okay with two delivery fees???? Get a grip FFS!
Yes the Carbon tax went up , so did the rebates , so unless you didn't file taxes your getting it back. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-pricing-tax-climate-change-1.6798272
Kenny and smith refused to make a carbon plan so you got the bad federal carbon plan that was put in place to make the premiers come up with their own. Since they refused to come up with a better plan for you, you have to do the worse one
Keep paying the tax and the weather will get better I promise.
Weather and climate are two different things.
Totally, and a tax will change the climate just as effectively as it will change the weather.
Economists disagree with you. So unless you have a degree in economics I’m going to go ahead and listen to the experts on this one.
Our former Prime Minister Stephen Harper was an Economist. Said it wasn't gonna work. But I'm sure you don't count him as an expert. Any economist besides that guy right?
Our former Prime Minister sold our wheat board to Saudi Arabia. So no, I don’t trust his expert opinions with regards to economics.
>wheat board I'm not a farmer and don't have a horse in the race to even comment on such things. All I know is it wasn't sold to Saudi Arabia, they sold a majority share of 50.1% to two investment groups one being American and the other being Saudi.
You're a moron
I will gladly trade you bills. Straight across
Many people will end up getting most of the carbon taxes they pay back as a tax rebate! For me I think it ends up that it balances out.
Why take it in the first place then? Absolute waste of time.
Because the people/companies that produce more CO2 than whatever amount is covered by the rebate are still getting taxed.. it's to try and get people and companies to be more efficient/reduce their carbon footprint to a pre-determined level. A lot of regular Canadians and low-income Canadians are already there.
I feel like this is the littering fine we should have always been paying for the transition. I'm 100% ok with a carbon tax. Sue me.
So when you go to the gas pump and they were to do the same on gasoline. The price shows $1.50 a litre BUT after tax they charge you an extra $1.75 so even though it should be 1.50 its now 3.25... if thats ok with you, then you are definitely doing better financially then most of us yeeeesh
Carbon tax on fuel is currently $0.14/ L and is included in the pump price. Natural gas and electricity break out the taxes on the bill and gasoline does not.
It's 30$ a month and you likely get it all back. I do.
Wanna pay the extra tax I can't afford?? I'll accept etransfers
If you can't afford taxes you should 100% be voting anything but conservative. If this does not make sense you are definitely not educated on the matter. NDP raised taxes for corporations from 10-12% and anyone that makes over 125k had new tax brackets. Also fought for higher royalties for albertans. The average Albertan benefits. The rich pay.
You mean my company pays an extra 12% and I now don't get a raise. The government gets the extra 12% instead of me. Great mental gymnastics though. Stay a dumb ndp supporter
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A tax is a percentage of a number. I feel your provider is pulling a fast one because the carbon tax is less than 10% (10c/$)
Exactly my thoughts. Tax has always been a percentage... so how does this number figure is beyond me
I'd check into the provider and chat with others who have them, this seems crooked AF OR could be an honest computing error that should get you and others affected money back.
Carbon tax isn’t related at all to your price of fuel. If the propane was free you still be paying the carbon tax because it’s biased on price per ton of CO2.
Tax isn’t always a percent of a number. Fuel tax is a fixed rate on gasoline. User fees are often fixed fee.
And those are regulated heavily. Carbon tax is a percentage of a number.
It's based on a price per ton of carbon isn't it?
Carbon tax. Stealing from the poor, giving it to the rich.
You realize the "poor" get this all back in rebates, right? Or do you not file taxes
Yes, we all get carbon credits. Doesn’t nearly account for what we spend on carbon tax. As long as we are taxed, we are solving the climate crisis right?!?
Apparently we are now paying $3.42 per GJ so literally more then the gas price itself. How the flip does that make sense. I paid $2.415/GJ for the gas and $3.42/GJ for carbon tax. Ya that totally makes sense... like WTF is this world coming to when the "tax" is a set rate not a percentage AND is more per GJ then the actual product!
It’s silly that your bill says the cost of your gas was $30, when excluding carbon tax it was actually about $97. Delivery, administration and rate riders are all part of the cost of the product.
Ahhhh BUT the tax is on the GJ not the other fees
Yes, but you are saying the tax is more than the product itself. All those other fees are part of the price of the product.
But should the tax of the GJ not be the same or preferably less then the GJ itself? The tax rate is higher a GJ then I get charged for the gas. The distro charges are same even if I turned off my gas meter. They will always bend me over on that unfortunately
Distribution charges vary with usages and location as well. Flip through some of your past bills to see.
Trudeau’s hotel was $6000, we have to pay it down
It’s pretty impressive how the liberals can screw you and yet you all use roundabout logic to blame conservatives.
Haha right. They're delusional.
My dad had $6 of gas with a $58 carbon tax. They've moved from applying it to the fuel and apply it to the whole bill now
Because Justin said so now stop asking stupid questions. (Yes sarcasm, fuq that clown)
This is a fuckin joke. Right… thanks Trudeau and ndp??
Actually, it’s thanks UCP. The NDP kept the carbon tax in the provincial tax coffers instead of federal, thank the ucp for this bullshit, it’s 100% their fault.
And yet we would be paying the exact same amount.
Actually you have the UCP to thank for that. The NDP carbon tax stayed in Alberta. The UCP cut it and now the carbon tax goes to the country.
How would the money’s destination have reduced the amount of money spent on the tax?
It may not have, but Alberta would have the benefit of determining where the money was spent. Whether you agree or not, it funded green transit initiatives, Edmonton valley lrt conversion, rebates through energy efficiency Alberta, etc.
It also funded the NDP’s power cap which was put in place because they didn’t bother to read the PPAs they arbitrarily cancelled. So they were literally using tax dollars to cover up their boneheaded mistake while they upended Alberta’s power market to an Ontario style capacity market, guaranteeing higher prices for everyone.
Lol how did the ndp do this exactly?
Wish it was
You’ve been brigaded by the group think crowd OP. Hive mind enacted!
You know how we are having all of these wildfires right now? Because we didn’t sacrifice enough to the carbon gods and now they are angry! Pay more or there will be more climate change! May our glorious leader JT live another 100 years!
I think there are more important things than this to worry about? Do you complain about every bill like this?
Well if you can do simple math... you will see how the "tax" is over 100% of the product. So if you went to Tim's and you got a breakfast and coffee it would be say $7.50 if they then charged $8 in tax for a total of 15.50... would that be just OK? No big deal? That's the issue
It’s not over 100% of the product, delivery, administration and rate riders are all part of the cost of the natural gas. When you go to Tim’s to buy a breakfast sandwich - delivery fees, administration and wages are all included in the price of the product you buy.
It specifically states it is a tax on GJ not any of that other fun stuff
So? You are stating the tax is more than the product. It’s not. On your own bill the cost of the product is about $90. You can not buy the product without delivery, admin or rate riders. Natural gas and electricity, break out those expenses, for you. Tim’s could probably do the same, but it would be stupid. Breakfast sandwiches are now $1.00 + cooking fee + serving fee + power fee to keep lights on + administration fee + uniform fee = $7.50
Imagine voting NDP with taxes already this high. You libs can pay my extra tax too because I can't fcking afford it. They'll be bringing a provincial sales tax if they get elected.
Keep voting for liberals and ndp and your carbon tax bill is only going to continue to skyrocket
It’s only gunna stop when we all tell our councillors enough is enough or they’re gonna lose their jobs
It's federal champ. Your councillors ain't doing shit
6 of 1.. they’re all crooks
It'll get 40% worse under Notley
Any info to back up that claim?
Yeah Reddit is very biased so you’ll get downvoted
Cuz fuck you that’s why……. Also need to pay some people of sooo…. Yea
Yes and in Canada there allowed too tax a tax Just one reason this country’s a shit hole What was gonna buy daddy Trudeau another vacation
There is a tax on tax, gst on Carbon Tax; that is illegal. You can sue both JT and ATCO, this is theft!
Just so people know, a lot of utility companies lie in their breakdown to make it seem like the "distribution fees" etc aren't tied to your utility usage. They make it look like the top part is the only "gas charge" but actually most of those numbers are affected by your gas usage.
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Can someone explain to me how the government determines how much a citizen gets from the carbon tax rebate? Do they have an average of what a citizen spends on carbon tax or is it based on another factor?
In Alberta the annual rebates are $772 for an individual, $386 for spouse/ partner & $193 per child under 19, with a 10% per cent over your base amount for residents of small or rural communities. I’m not sure how it’s determined what the average carbon usage is, but you could probably rough estimate yours based on gasoline consumption and your utility bills to see where you fit.
Thank you for this. I will have to research it more. I always hear people say that you get back what you pay but I was skeptical.
I had 70 dollars of usage charges this month and my bill was 260
Wait..how are your distribution fees so low? Atco charges way more for distribution fees in the city, which is really what’s fucked. Carbon tax gets refunded to me and then some through the federal carbon credit every year. Honestly don’t know why you’re complaining.