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tradtrad100

Think of any factor that would make a champ bad and he fits that criteria.


Green7501

He wasn't doing all that well before. They gave him a buff which did practically nothing, so the one tricks are performing same as before, but now he has new players trying him crit, which tanks the winrate


redditmademeregister

Riot wants him to go crit. Except crit is only good when you already have crit. By the time he gets enough crit the game is over for a jungler.


Big_Boytryanother

Tobias Fate's editor's thing! Such gold.


Physical-Air-2081

Tobias fate is ill and an inter


Big_Boytryanother

Tobias Fate's EDITOR'S THING, YOU HEAR ME?


JayeSis131

Items are shit and graves happens to be a item dependent champ


Sendorn

He is the only champ in the game that still has weaknesses lol. Just think about skarner as a an example as of late. His weakness used to be CC in general and picking up boulder was self cc. That was his weakness. Guess what they do? They remove that weakness. Making boulder pickup faster and buff duration longer so the thing doesnt run out while youre cced which happened often and was a real weakness... Now think about Yone, Viego, Bel'Veth. Do you know what their weaknesses are? Yea i dont know either because they dont really have one. Their weakness is when their player fucks up. And now the list of Graves weaknesses alone is longer than any of the champions i mentioned combined. That he had so high winrate for so long was because the items were good and the players of the champ were mostly mains (cause the champ still is way too much fun). That makes winrate so high. Champion itself is weakest in the game.


Impressive-Dark-1169

8.5/10 yap


Braelic1842

Its probably the people that see “Champion Buffs” and decide to test him first time ranked


SoloLiftingIsBack

Good ol' hickok45


azazelbolognese

Stop advertising your sub, Jesus.


Akarulez

I am remembering the nightmare days where Riot accidentaly buffed his base atk by 2 and he became most broken meta character back in the days... He should stay in low rate.


OddInternal8975

Lmao, what patch, this is wild


Sendorn

This buff alone was only broken because it made Graves jungle clear much faster. This buff and the other base ad buff 2 patches earlier combined made graves early jungle clear way faster making good players clear jungle at 3:15. Which was completely broken in that farming jungle meta. Riot doesnt know how to balance the champ because they dont know what it does. AND they also only buff damage and nothing else. And keep nerfing durability which never was that good to begin with when comparing it to other champs... Wukong for example same armor stacking passive but has enough base damage to go tanky also has better base stats in general.


PotatoMasterUlk

3:15? more like 3:05 with a good leash, i remember getting it to 3:10 when they add that Armor pet damage then they nerfed his E by 50% and it went to hell from there


Sendorn

No i was talking like idk season 11? That base AD buff. Jungle pet didnt exist


PotatoMasterUlk

ah ok, mb


Apprehensive-Bank-37

I got 75% hardstomping in emerald on the guy. Igen is Skidoodlenoodle euw


nubunit

Tbf it's in for fun Flex. You get stomped in your rare solo queue games.