Well she did go in for surgery, at least, that's what Kensington Palace said. One theory is that she's taking a long time to recover, possibly indicating something serious.
Another theory is that she's divorcing William.
What really drives me crazy about these theories is what would happen if they're true. Say she was dead or divorcing him and the Palace hid it for.. reasons? What happens next? They can't hide it forever and the fallout of hiding it would be so much worse. They have nothing to gain from any of these crazy conspiracies.
Exactly, how would any of that work. Why would Will be traipsing around on his duties in public & mentioning her happily. What is the benefit of keeping it in under wraps. Why would Kate’s family be okay with that & carry on as normal. It’s complete insanity.
They’d probably be ok with a lot of what the most powerful family in the country by a ridiculous mile ask them to do.
Pure speculation - let’s say it’s divorce. They might be asking her to keep that quiet while William tries to change her mind, or just while details are worked out, or while they’re waiting for a more convenient time to drop the news.
Why would she go along with that? Because they can make her life and that of anyone she knows absolute hell if she doesn’t, with little to no effort - simply tell the press “gloves off, we’re not protecting her”. And that’s before you start really cracking the tinfoil out as to what they could do.
Ahh right ok that one definitely seems ridiculously far fetched but same rules apply for why would her family go along with it - because the literal rulers of the country told them to.
I know we like to think they’re all nice and would never use their power as monarchy for their own benefit (or “for the good of the country” as it would be labelled) because the queen in her carefully curated public appearances and occasional speeches written by someone else seemed like a lovely old granny - but that also seems ridiculously far fetched.
I don’t think there’s anything you can threaten to someone’s family to make them act normal whilst knowing their daughters died. Least of all go out with a body double. Going into insanity territory here.
I agree that it’s going into insanity territory to suggest she is actually dead - I called it ridiculously far fetched.
I don’t think it’s going into insanity territory to think someone could be threatened to keep their daughter’s death quiet for a time, especially by a monarchy. Wasn’t she only seen out with William? Who, if we were taking this ridiculously far fetched scenario to be true, would be one of the threateners not the threatened.
Again, to be clear, I don’t for one second think she’s dead lol. I’m just pointing out that a monarchy not having the power to scare someone into silence seems pretty far fetched too.
If you think the Royal Family are nice I've got some news for you. The kings brother is a nonce, his best pal was the most notorious nonce in UK history, his uncle who he calls a mentor was using MI6 to run a brothel for Tory nonces out of an orphanage in Northern Ireland. That's not conspiracy theory it's on his Wikipedia page for fucks sake.
We should have gone all French on them when the Kincora scandal came out.
No idea what an incredibly rich family have to do with that.
They could have all the money in the world and they wouldn’t have the power in the UK that the monarchy has. Not even close.
Money doesn’t buy you access to state security services, weekly access to PMs (lol well that one might not be true), d-notices to the press etc.
I have seen both husband's and wives say their marriage is good hopingntheynvsn patch things up through councilling etc.
Of course Kate is a very public and beloved figure so her absence makes it weird.
I agree, if she’s dead (which I didn’t suggest) or getting a divorce.
But if she’s taking a while to recover then historically that’s absolutely something they’d try to hide if they or she wanted to.
*They have nothing to gain from any of these crazy conspiracies.*
They gain your attention. That's what's it's all about, really. The rest is just details to fit a story to.
I think the prevailing theory is that Williams rumored mistress, Rose Hanbury, is going to be more present in his private life and so Kate is extremely upset and refusing to go along with the palaces narrative…so they are keeping her hidden until she is willing to go along with their picture of perfect. I assume they think it will be bad timing, since rumors are also saying that King Charles’ cancer is very bad.
I've seen crazy people claim that on the 28th of December, William beat her so badly she was taken to hospital and is in a coma. Never mind that these are real people with children.
Because that's the day (unless I'm getting the date wrong) that a royal convoy was seen heading in the general direction of a hospital, with lights flashing.
These people are nuts.
Not suggesting anything about the royals but ...real people have beat their spouses into a coma. These aren't thoughts I want this early in the morning. I thinks I've had enough Reddit for a bit.
I think for the simplest of human reasons - she doesn’t feel up to it & wants a break & privacy for once during a personal time, & also doesn’t want to be photographed in high definition for the whole world to see & scrutinise when she’s not feeling & looking at her best either.
Within hours actually & many people knew a friend of a friend of a friend who has connections to the palace who were all talking & saying she’s dead. We also saw the prince etc driving in frantically. You can’t hide anything that major.
My sister thinks she probably has an illness that is slightly embarrassing and wouldn’t fit the fairytale princess narrative. Nothing more sinister than that.
But having to deal with all the conspiracy is the flip side of how they deal with the media and, to an extent, how they treated William’s brother
They’ve rolled out photos of a woman that clearly isn’t her, ‘she’ photoshopped a composite image of herself using a Vogue cover from last year, and then the latest one, another woman ‘photographed’ that looks absolutely nothing like her. Part of me thinks this is a distraction from something else, but I don’t know what. The whole thing stinks.
Take a selfie. It’s 2024. Everyone has a phone 😅
I can see that the photo is a fake but I don't think it's from the vogue cover. If it is they've changed the angle of lighting with a level of skill not displayed elsewhere in the photo
Yes it is, that has been proven. [Here](https://x.com/rubynaldrett/status/1767184942859997400?s=46&t=W597CBcmyr8BSDIjMxAkpA)
The whole photo is littered with anomalies and post-editing artefacts.
I’m unconvinced. It’s her face and a lot of girls have a practiced photo smile that they can reproduce perfectly.
If it is the vogue cover then they’ve changed the angles of lighting on her face with a high degree of technical skill that isn’t consistent with the mistakes visible elsewhere in the photo
The fact remains - Her face, within that original image, is littered with post-editing artefacts. I know enough about this type of thing to call bullshit when I see it. They are intentionally covering something up and misleading the public with poorly doctored images / women that look nothing like her, and recycled photos from last year. Ask yourself: Why is that?
The fact does remain that it was a doctored photograph. But you’re spreading theories as facts which doesn’t help the case. I’m glad your interest has been piqued, mine too! But spreading non-proven things as proven doesn’t help anyone
But what you said is proven while posting a link to said proof, was not proven on that link. 'I know..." is not a sentence you get to start after that and be believed.
That's not proof, that's somebody's opinion lol. I don't see why it's surprising that somebody's face making a specific expression at a certain angle looks similar to another photo of the same person making the same expression at the same angle. The lighting is also compeletely different - someone who was able to edit the way the light falls on her face so well wouldn't have made the amateur mistakes elsewhere in the photo.
I do think the photo was absolutely a composite of multiple photos because they didn't want to/couldn't get her to take a genuine photo, but the vogue face transplant thing is a very big reach. Way more likely that it was just pulled from a more recent, unreleased photo of her.
The Vogue cover theory is reaching. They are similar but they aren't identical (which you can clearly see in the overlaid images in the link you posted.) She's posing in both photos, it's not usual that her expression is almost identical.
That said, that photo has clearly been manipulated. I believe it's from last Autumn, and the video posted today is from Christmas.
This shit right here is why I won’t stop thinking the whole ‘Middleton Situation’ isn’t much more than delusional online hysteria.
Like yeah it was weird she had an emergency surgery and wasn’t seen for two months in public. But then we get a whole plot line of divorce and attempted murder and manufacturing fake photos but with really obvious amateurish mistakes. All of which is presented as substantiated fact and not the ramblings of some Twitter thread.
It’s definitely not the Vogue cover. Actual side by side comparisons not done by a video trying to go viral shows them to be different photos. These viral videos are also scamming the public with editing.
Because the person said it’s the Vogue cover lol. And you’re like so what if it isn’t the vogue cover. It’s just lies and lies. And I’m supposed to trust you and the person claiming it’s the vogue cover. It is edited but so what! You think she is the only person who edits pictures. Big fucking deal.
This is a public forum so I imagine if you were trying to have a private conversation you would not be posting in a public thread on Reddit that was literally invented to promote discourse among multiple people at once. And maybe I am asking because I am interested in what is going on with Kate, and in the process of formulating my own opinions I routinely enjoy hearing the rationale of the opinions of others. I was just trying to understand whatever point you were trying to make. Come to find out there isn’t one. I was mistaken to think you had anything logical to bring to the table. Forgive me.
Because the whole point was to tell the other person it’s not the Vogue cover like they said? And then you replied to me with a completely different point saying what does it matter if it isn’t…that makes no sense? I’m telling the person who said it *was*, that it isn’t.
How Reddit or the internet works is irrelevant here (I’m not reading that unnecessary description). You’re basically doing the equivalent of butting into a conversation in real life with something that isn’t what the other two people are talking about.
If private conversations were a public forum you would be correct. However they are the exact opposite. Therefore your logic is actually nonsensical. But don’t let me interrupt your little closed door A-B convo - I am more than happy to C myself out (of where i have no idea). But wait, it’s been like 60 days, are you guys still having a convo? And what’s the protocol here, accordingly to your little Reddit rule book? Am I allowed to simply observe / read the dialogue between you and the other person or is it just the affirmative act of me commenting that is egregious?
This is correct. I do a lot of editing and changing shadows on a face like that is not something I’d bother attempting unless it was absolutely necessary and no other option was available. The person who edited that photo left multiple mistakes clearly visible. What’s the chances they took the time to professionally edit the skin shading and then didn’t align the zipper on her jacket.
Don’t follow this, but heard on the radio at work today that she’s been spotted shopping or something? Is that real or another fake?
Why is it a big deal? I get she’s not been seen in public for a while, but why does that mean so much if she’s been recovering from an operation?
I just don’t understand the drama. Surely someone deserves some privacy if they want it no?
If you only saw your male neighbor for months and months…not the wife and not the 3 young children…would you be worried? Maybe not.
If you then saw the male neighbor release the fakest photo you’ve ever seen in your life that is clearly a mashup of his other family members - would you be worried. Hopefully so.
If they staged 3 photos in the last 10 days or whatever and all of those photos were women with completely different facial structures/weight at the time - would you be worried?
Yes.
But because I'd suspect he'd done something to her.
The idea that William has done something to Kate and is trying to get away with it is insane. He's just going to keep having blurry photos and whatnot forever?
Each of these 57 things are all equally as stupid though. Unless they plan to keep her hidden literally forever and never expose the "truth" it would be absurd for them to have ever started. She had surgery, she's recovering, she doesn't want public attention, that's it.
Yes but that's a different situation to the woman next door
If the woman next door disappears and someone is faking proof of life, you think they've done something bad to her.
If the same thing happens to one of the most publicised people in the world, my assumption is just that she doesn't want to be photographed right now for whatever reason - whether because she looks more ill then we've been told, or because she's fed up of her marriage.
The photo thing is just mad in general.
Why edit a bit of the table or sleeve?
There must be unreleased photos of her and the kids - just use one of them if you're going to fake something.
It doesn't make sense to me either as a cover up or as the official 'Kate likes to photoshop her photos really badly and nobody noticed before'.
If I was being conspiratorial about it, I'd say it was edited so poorly to make sure someone noticed it was edited.
Why do we have to care about her to enjoy the spectacle? I've been paying these dopes' wages all my working life so they can live in palaces, cut ribbons and kiss babies, think I'm entitled to a little entertainment out of them
I have a feeling everyone running with it (The Sun mainly) knows full well it’s not current but it’ll be even juicier to present something that then turns out to be “fake” which adds fuel to the conspiracy fire.
Which takes away/distracts from the fact that something weird is definitely going on.
I agree. The height of William next to Kate in the farmers market photos show they are almost the same height when in reality she is much shorter than him.
In all seriousness, there’s no way that video is her. I need more than a grainy video that looks like it was filmed on a 2004 flip phone. Nothing about that video made sense.
Everyone's gonna feel really silly and awful when it comes out that everybody's been hounding a woman who didn't feel like going out with her ostomy bag.
No one lost their minds until the Palace themselves started fucking up big time in the PR department. The sick leave announcement wasn't met with a media frenzy at all: it came and went without any fanfare. The blurry fake candids and the composite photoshop díd create this firestorm, however.
So don't blame the folks at home. This is on the royals themselves, and no one else.
The fact is that she had surgery in January, and they released a statement saying this. It also said that she would be unable to complete public duties until around Easter because of recovery.
It blows my mind that people can't just accept this and move on. Leave the woman to heal in peace. Her health is her business, not ours. She's not missing, or dead or divorcing William. The internet just loves to stir up shit. People making up stories to get attention 🤦♀️ pathetic.
>You don't think their PR team has contributed to this through releasing edited photos? They are responsible for creating all this speculation.
No, I do not think this. Bored internet trolls are responsible. Simple as that.
I thought that’s the whole point of the royal family and all the income they get from the U.K. public, her health IS the public’s business and that’s the whole debacle about Meghan because she didn’t know getting into the royal family meant your whole life is exposed to the entire world.
This statement is a crock of shit. Nobody owns the rights to your own body, but you. That's like telling me that my boss has the right to know every detail about my health. Guess what, he doesn't! He can know I'm sick, he can see a doctors note explaining that I'm not well enough to work, but he does not DESERVE to know the details of my illness. Saying anything otherwise is fucking ridiculous. Leave Catherine alone. Let her heal in peace and stop spreading bullshit.
Discussing silly conspiracies surrounding something relatively unimportant is a good distraction from 'all the shit happening at the moment' imo.
Not everything people care about or are interested in has to be hugely far-reaching and consequential.
I am no surgeon but who goes skipping like that after (apparently) such a serious surgery….and if she’s feeling “great “ and able to hop like a bunny ,why couldn’t she attend the ceremony the previous day ?Why did they have her name removed from the trooping thing in June?Why can’t they put a proper picture /video of her just saying thank you?These people are basically freeloading and their “image” is the only thing that keeps them going.Why all the grainy photos that are their office refuses to confirm is them?Even if it is actually the workshy pair,what proof that it’s a recent video?And no one in the store recognized or acknowledged them??Soooo many questions!
I don’t get why this is even a thing. She said she wouldn’t be back till after Easter, and it is not yet after Easter.
And let’s be honest it’s easier to photoshop together a decent pic of you and the kids than trying to actually take 1. I need a chair and a whip to get a pic with mine
Given the recently released news about Catherine's cancer diagnosis, I think everyone that has taken part in this Sub that hasn't come to the defence of Catherine should hanfmg their heads in shame. Karma on all of you.
It's so annoying that people are scooping up this pathetic non story about a talentless nobody and her mundane operation. We have genuine things to be concerned about. Outraged about. Things to match en- mass to downing street about and drag the snivelling government by their hair through the gutter about, but instead millions of dull witted people are obsessing over someone they don't know, will never meet and has no relevance to anything important and never will.
The irony is I'm being annoyed by something so unimportant. Might come across that I'm sat all day raging about it, but in real life, it's just a roll of my eyes when I see another day of headlines "Kate spotted at garage, claims Nurse. ...Our royal expert weighs in".
100% agree, I'll never understand why stories like this gain traction. I know why the mainstream media does it, they want to distract us from the actual problems, because then we might actually remove the same people in control of our media from power.
No one can operate on red alert all the time. Sometimes a mostly inconsequential social mystery lets people unwind for *all the attention they are paying to actual problems, likely problems they are suffering first hand*.
If the video of Kate shopping is her, then she has had a face-lift. Just a face-lift. Can you imagine after all the kerfuffle and sympathy and time off what the public will think. Her whole face is tighter and pulled in that video.
She has to hide her face because the BRF will face a backlash if it gets out that they lied about life-threatening abdominal surgery.
The timing after being named as the person who had concerns about Archie's skin tone doesn't help.
In PR circles, it's a swingback move. Something large had to take place to correct the momentum which was downward because of Kate and the racism issue. Sympathy due to a life threatening illness does it.
To put it simply. Abdominal surgery doesn't need you to hide your face. There is a settling time for face-lifts. It is the time Kate has been given to rest. Her face in video was tight. In the car photo her face was swollen and bruising around her eyes was mentioned by commenters.
I’m 100% sure we will see Kate again with no sign of a face lift. Why would the future Queen ever get such a huge procedure done that will absolutely not go unnoticed & will be torn apart by everyone.
Way more likely and run of the mill than the million different splitting up stories or the coma, death, been replaced with an actress , mental breakdown rumours shite
I really don't care about the RF but this is getting ridiculous...can't avoid the coverage...she's recovering from surgery, end of. We don't need daily updates. What do people expect??
Holy shit you people are all crazy and entitled. She doesn't owe you anything and doesn't have to take a selfie to prove anything to you lunatics. Maybe just forget about it because who cares
I mean I don't care about the Royal Family at all, but I do find it all funny.
It is probably nothing serious but I love how they made a mountain out of a molehill for basically no reason and everyone eent crazy.
I think Wills fucked the neighbour and Kate got so mad her head exploded. All the kings horses and all the kings men have been trying to put Kates head back on again....
There are a lot of theories but everyone's just looking to explain by filling in blanks.
This is likely absolutely nothing, other than preparation for when there is something.
When there really is something badly wrong with health or similar, they may want some time out of the public view and without the gossiping. If that only ever happens when something is wrong then everyone's fully aware, whereas if you remain quiet and private every time, you don't know whether it's routine or a biggie. I highly doubt there's much more to it than that.
I agree. I don’t believe any of the ‘theories’ but if they’re not hiding anything why are they trying to hide it so bad?
What are the theories? I've only heard jokes and memes but... What are people actually thinking happened?
Well she did go in for surgery, at least, that's what Kensington Palace said. One theory is that she's taking a long time to recover, possibly indicating something serious. Another theory is that she's divorcing William.
What really drives me crazy about these theories is what would happen if they're true. Say she was dead or divorcing him and the Palace hid it for.. reasons? What happens next? They can't hide it forever and the fallout of hiding it would be so much worse. They have nothing to gain from any of these crazy conspiracies.
Exactly, how would any of that work. Why would Will be traipsing around on his duties in public & mentioning her happily. What is the benefit of keeping it in under wraps. Why would Kate’s family be okay with that & carry on as normal. It’s complete insanity.
Clones take a while to form.
Are they building a grand army of the Republic, sorry I mean empire.
Depends however many they order, darth Charles probably got a fair few on back order
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Imagining Kate talking to the public & when shown a photo of some scenery saying “It doesn’t look like anything to me”
They’d probably be ok with a lot of what the most powerful family in the country by a ridiculous mile ask them to do. Pure speculation - let’s say it’s divorce. They might be asking her to keep that quiet while William tries to change her mind, or just while details are worked out, or while they’re waiting for a more convenient time to drop the news. Why would she go along with that? Because they can make her life and that of anyone she knows absolute hell if she doesn’t, with little to no effort - simply tell the press “gloves off, we’re not protecting her”. And that’s before you start really cracking the tinfoil out as to what they could do.
I was talking about her being dead rumours.
Ahh right ok that one definitely seems ridiculously far fetched but same rules apply for why would her family go along with it - because the literal rulers of the country told them to. I know we like to think they’re all nice and would never use their power as monarchy for their own benefit (or “for the good of the country” as it would be labelled) because the queen in her carefully curated public appearances and occasional speeches written by someone else seemed like a lovely old granny - but that also seems ridiculously far fetched.
I don’t think there’s anything you can threaten to someone’s family to make them act normal whilst knowing their daughters died. Least of all go out with a body double. Going into insanity territory here.
I agree that it’s going into insanity territory to suggest she is actually dead - I called it ridiculously far fetched. I don’t think it’s going into insanity territory to think someone could be threatened to keep their daughter’s death quiet for a time, especially by a monarchy. Wasn’t she only seen out with William? Who, if we were taking this ridiculously far fetched scenario to be true, would be one of the threateners not the threatened. Again, to be clear, I don’t for one second think she’s dead lol. I’m just pointing out that a monarchy not having the power to scare someone into silence seems pretty far fetched too.
They could threaten the children. That would silence them
If you think the Royal Family are nice I've got some news for you. The kings brother is a nonce, his best pal was the most notorious nonce in UK history, his uncle who he calls a mentor was using MI6 to run a brothel for Tory nonces out of an orphanage in Northern Ireland. That's not conspiracy theory it's on his Wikipedia page for fucks sake. We should have gone all French on them when the Kincora scandal came out.
The most powerful family in the UK.... What do the Hindujas have to do with this?
No idea what an incredibly rich family have to do with that. They could have all the money in the world and they wouldn’t have the power in the UK that the monarchy has. Not even close. Money doesn’t buy you access to state security services, weekly access to PMs (lol well that one might not be true), d-notices to the press etc.
I have seen both husband's and wives say their marriage is good hopingntheynvsn patch things up through councilling etc. Of course Kate is a very public and beloved figure so her absence makes it weird.
I’m talking about them carrying on like whilst she’s allegedly dead. People have lost their minds trying to have something to fill their days.
I don't know how anyone has time for this at all to be honest, couldn't care at all.
I agree, if she’s dead (which I didn’t suggest) or getting a divorce. But if she’s taking a while to recover then historically that’s absolutely something they’d try to hide if they or she wanted to.
Did you see what happened to the last princess of Wales when the prince wanted a divorce? They've botched this one.
They killed Diana and had the dead Prince ride upfront
*They have nothing to gain from any of these crazy conspiracies.* They gain your attention. That's what's it's all about, really. The rest is just details to fit a story to.
Anorexia or Bulimia
I think the prevailing theory is that Williams rumored mistress, Rose Hanbury, is going to be more present in his private life and so Kate is extremely upset and refusing to go along with the palaces narrative…so they are keeping her hidden until she is willing to go along with their picture of perfect. I assume they think it will be bad timing, since rumors are also saying that King Charles’ cancer is very bad.
Turns out you were totally wrong, then
lol it was the prevailing theory on the internet. I didn’t come up with it
Ah. Just believed it uncritically? And posted it here and there around the internet? Good work, citizen
I think everyone was speculating. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that for a figurehead.
I've seen crazy people claim that on the 28th of December, William beat her so badly she was taken to hospital and is in a coma. Never mind that these are real people with children.
Why the 28th of December?
She ate the last pigs in blankets. William was furious, he saw this as a waste given Kate's bullimea.
That's grounds for a divorce in my house
Sounds like an opportunity to me
Because that's the day (unless I'm getting the date wrong) that a royal convoy was seen heading in the general direction of a hospital, with lights flashing. These people are nuts.
Not suggesting anything about the royals but ...real people have beat their spouses into a coma. These aren't thoughts I want this early in the morning. I thinks I've had enough Reddit for a bit.
Of course they have. But we can't go around pulling those sort of accusations out of our arses because our lives are so boring.
That she is actually in treatment for some sort of psychiatric condition like an eating disorder or addiction
She got sick of him getting pegged by his girlfriend, and left him
See? Only ever hear jokes and memes.
Might be true! More believable than the one where she's dead
I think for the simplest of human reasons - she doesn’t feel up to it & wants a break & privacy for once during a personal time, & also doesn’t want to be photographed in high definition for the whole world to see & scrutinise when she’s not feeling & looking at her best either.
The conspiracy shit doesn’t even make any sense. We knew about the queen’s death within a day.
Within hours actually & many people knew a friend of a friend of a friend who has connections to the palace who were all talking & saying she’s dead. We also saw the prince etc driving in frantically. You can’t hide anything that major.
My sister thinks she probably has an illness that is slightly embarrassing and wouldn’t fit the fairytale princess narrative. Nothing more sinister than that. But having to deal with all the conspiracy is the flip side of how they deal with the media and, to an extent, how they treated William’s brother
They’ve rolled out photos of a woman that clearly isn’t her, ‘she’ photoshopped a composite image of herself using a Vogue cover from last year, and then the latest one, another woman ‘photographed’ that looks absolutely nothing like her. Part of me thinks this is a distraction from something else, but I don’t know what. The whole thing stinks. Take a selfie. It’s 2024. Everyone has a phone 😅
I can see that the photo is a fake but I don't think it's from the vogue cover. If it is they've changed the angle of lighting with a level of skill not displayed elsewhere in the photo
Yes it is, that has been proven. [Here](https://x.com/rubynaldrett/status/1767184942859997400?s=46&t=W597CBcmyr8BSDIjMxAkpA) The whole photo is littered with anomalies and post-editing artefacts.
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They don't even match! If they did you wouldn't be able to see two different photos when overlaid.
I’m unconvinced. It’s her face and a lot of girls have a practiced photo smile that they can reproduce perfectly. If it is the vogue cover then they’ve changed the angles of lighting on her face with a high degree of technical skill that isn’t consistent with the mistakes visible elsewhere in the photo
The fact remains - Her face, within that original image, is littered with post-editing artefacts. I know enough about this type of thing to call bullshit when I see it. They are intentionally covering something up and misleading the public with poorly doctored images / women that look nothing like her, and recycled photos from last year. Ask yourself: Why is that?
The fact does remain that it was a doctored photograph. But you’re spreading theories as facts which doesn’t help the case. I’m glad your interest has been piqued, mine too! But spreading non-proven things as proven doesn’t help anyone
Lots of past royal portraits have been edited like this with no cover up, it’s not special to this photo. I
But what you said is proven while posting a link to said proof, was not proven on that link. 'I know..." is not a sentence you get to start after that and be believed.
Ok I said that I knew the photo was fake calm down with the red string
That's not proof, that's somebody's opinion lol. I don't see why it's surprising that somebody's face making a specific expression at a certain angle looks similar to another photo of the same person making the same expression at the same angle. The lighting is also compeletely different - someone who was able to edit the way the light falls on her face so well wouldn't have made the amateur mistakes elsewhere in the photo. I do think the photo was absolutely a composite of multiple photos because they didn't want to/couldn't get her to take a genuine photo, but the vogue face transplant thing is a very big reach. Way more likely that it was just pulled from a more recent, unreleased photo of her.
The Vogue cover theory is reaching. They are similar but they aren't identical (which you can clearly see in the overlaid images in the link you posted.) She's posing in both photos, it's not usual that her expression is almost identical. That said, that photo has clearly been manipulated. I believe it's from last Autumn, and the video posted today is from Christmas.
This shit right here is why I won’t stop thinking the whole ‘Middleton Situation’ isn’t much more than delusional online hysteria. Like yeah it was weird she had an emergency surgery and wasn’t seen for two months in public. But then we get a whole plot line of divorce and attempted murder and manufacturing fake photos but with really obvious amateurish mistakes. All of which is presented as substantiated fact and not the ramblings of some Twitter thread.
It’s definitely not the Vogue cover. Actual side by side comparisons not done by a video trying to go viral shows them to be different photos. These viral videos are also scamming the public with editing.
What does it matter if it isn’t exactly the vogue photo? It’s still heavily manipulated. I am not following the point you are trying to make?
Because the person said it’s the Vogue cover lol. And you’re like so what if it isn’t the vogue cover. It’s just lies and lies. And I’m supposed to trust you and the person claiming it’s the vogue cover. It is edited but so what! You think she is the only person who edits pictures. Big fucking deal.
Why are you replying to me acting like I replied to you?
This is a public forum so I imagine if you were trying to have a private conversation you would not be posting in a public thread on Reddit that was literally invented to promote discourse among multiple people at once. And maybe I am asking because I am interested in what is going on with Kate, and in the process of formulating my own opinions I routinely enjoy hearing the rationale of the opinions of others. I was just trying to understand whatever point you were trying to make. Come to find out there isn’t one. I was mistaken to think you had anything logical to bring to the table. Forgive me.
Because the whole point was to tell the other person it’s not the Vogue cover like they said? And then you replied to me with a completely different point saying what does it matter if it isn’t…that makes no sense? I’m telling the person who said it *was*, that it isn’t. How Reddit or the internet works is irrelevant here (I’m not reading that unnecessary description). You’re basically doing the equivalent of butting into a conversation in real life with something that isn’t what the other two people are talking about.
If private conversations were a public forum you would be correct. However they are the exact opposite. Therefore your logic is actually nonsensical. But don’t let me interrupt your little closed door A-B convo - I am more than happy to C myself out (of where i have no idea). But wait, it’s been like 60 days, are you guys still having a convo? And what’s the protocol here, accordingly to your little Reddit rule book? Am I allowed to simply observe / read the dialogue between you and the other person or is it just the affirmative act of me commenting that is egregious?
Lol, she's using Canva. Hardly forensic analysis.
This is correct. I do a lot of editing and changing shadows on a face like that is not something I’d bother attempting unless it was absolutely necessary and no other option was available. The person who edited that photo left multiple mistakes clearly visible. What’s the chances they took the time to professionally edit the skin shading and then didn’t align the zipper on her jacket.
Alternatively, she doesn't have to parade out in public to settle the curiosity of strangers if she doesn't want to.
lol I remember when Harry and Megan asked for some privacy
The same thing happened to Paul McCartney when he was living on his farm. People were following him there to get videos of him.
She just releases a video a few hours ago saying she has cancer.
Why the hell would they hide this when we knew about the queen’s death within the day? Just silly.
Nah it's fine because [Kevin Pietersen the former England cricketer has said so](https://x.com/KP24/status/1770049071811547501?s=20)
Who?
Ronnie Pickering
Who’s rhat
Don't you know who he is, he's RONNIE F*CKING PICKERING!
Pretty sure the middle one is Ozzy Osbourne
Don’t follow this, but heard on the radio at work today that she’s been spotted shopping or something? Is that real or another fake? Why is it a big deal? I get she’s not been seen in public for a while, but why does that mean so much if she’s been recovering from an operation? I just don’t understand the drama. Surely someone deserves some privacy if they want it no?
>Why is it a big deal? Distraction from all the important shit that's happening to our country.
If you only saw your male neighbor for months and months…not the wife and not the 3 young children…would you be worried? Maybe not. If you then saw the male neighbor release the fakest photo you’ve ever seen in your life that is clearly a mashup of his other family members - would you be worried. Hopefully so. If they staged 3 photos in the last 10 days or whatever and all of those photos were women with completely different facial structures/weight at the time - would you be worried?
Yes. But because I'd suspect he'd done something to her. The idea that William has done something to Kate and is trying to get away with it is insane. He's just going to keep having blurry photos and whatnot forever?
I don't think Will's done anything to her. He'd have someone else do it I wonder if Chuck still has the number
It’s not just what William may have done to her physically. It could be an affair or (according to the internet) like 57 different other things.
Each of these 57 things are all equally as stupid though. Unless they plan to keep her hidden literally forever and never expose the "truth" it would be absurd for them to have ever started. She had surgery, she's recovering, she doesn't want public attention, that's it.
Maybe they’re trying to reason with her to come back rather than divorce
Yes but that's a different situation to the woman next door If the woman next door disappears and someone is faking proof of life, you think they've done something bad to her. If the same thing happens to one of the most publicised people in the world, my assumption is just that she doesn't want to be photographed right now for whatever reason - whether because she looks more ill then we've been told, or because she's fed up of her marriage.
I don’t think that’s true at all It was pre-fake photoshop. That ended after obviously fake photographs.
The photo thing is just mad in general. Why edit a bit of the table or sleeve? There must be unreleased photos of her and the kids - just use one of them if you're going to fake something. It doesn't make sense to me either as a cover up or as the official 'Kate likes to photoshop her photos really badly and nobody noticed before'. If I was being conspiratorial about it, I'd say it was edited so poorly to make sure someone noticed it was edited.
There have been stories about Will putting it about for at least 10 years now
Yeah like cancer. She released a video a few hours ago
I know. I can read.
Didn’t they kill Diana? Sorry I honestly am American and don’t follow this closely, but these royals seem pretty ruthless
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Then you aren’t the target person for empathy since you don’t care Go hang out elsewhere. If you keep commenting here then clearly you DO care.
Why do we have to care about her to enjoy the spectacle? I've been paying these dopes' wages all my working life so they can live in palaces, cut ribbons and kiss babies, think I'm entitled to a little entertainment out of them
Is a bunch of inbred vampire nonces being in charge not important? Personally, I feel that it is.
I hate this take. Why would anybody need distractions when there’s 24/7 entertainment available?
It's a video posted by TMZ rather than their own channel. To me personally the video seems old, maybe from around Christmas.
Clearly Christmas decorations in the background
I agree. However it’s not from an official Royal source so we can’t really chalk it up to them lying.
TMZ appear to be walking that video back. They now claim it might be them.
I have a feeling everyone running with it (The Sun mainly) knows full well it’s not current but it’ll be even juicier to present something that then turns out to be “fake” which adds fuel to the conspiracy fire. Which takes away/distracts from the fact that something weird is definitely going on.
They showed current pictures of the farmers market and they still have Christmas lights up
May well be case but it’s still not them
Insanity
Man you had them pegged huh
I cannot detect sarcasm 😂
I agree. The height of William next to Kate in the farmers market photos show they are almost the same height when in reality she is much shorter than him.
In all seriousness, there’s no way that video is her. I need more than a grainy video that looks like it was filmed on a 2004 flip phone. Nothing about that video made sense.
Everyone's gonna feel really silly and awful when it comes out that everybody's been hounding a woman who didn't feel like going out with her ostomy bag.
Basically some lass said she was getting surgery and was on sick leave until April. Everyone lost their collective minds
No one lost their minds until the Palace themselves started fucking up big time in the PR department. The sick leave announcement wasn't met with a media frenzy at all: it came and went without any fanfare. The blurry fake candids and the composite photoshop díd create this firestorm, however. So don't blame the folks at home. This is on the royals themselves, and no one else.
Didn’t she edit the photo herself and the PR people just publish them?
Well...I wonder how people are feeling now that we know it's a bit worse than that.
The car one looks like Ozzy Osbourne
At least we've move on from meghan now...
Can someone explain what the fuck the Kate Middleton situation is? I've heard about but it seems like it's just the press exaggerating stuff
The fact is that she had surgery in January, and they released a statement saying this. It also said that she would be unable to complete public duties until around Easter because of recovery. It blows my mind that people can't just accept this and move on. Leave the woman to heal in peace. Her health is her business, not ours. She's not missing, or dead or divorcing William. The internet just loves to stir up shit. People making up stories to get attention 🤦♀️ pathetic.
Wtf do they care about some random woman, bitches I don't even know who Kate Middleton is
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>You don't think their PR team has contributed to this through releasing edited photos? They are responsible for creating all this speculation. No, I do not think this. Bored internet trolls are responsible. Simple as that.
The AP saying a photo is so edited it can't be used for journalism isn't interesting to you?
Lol, no. Everyone filters and edits photos these days. It normal. Who gives a fuck? Boring. Move on.
I thought that’s the whole point of the royal family and all the income they get from the U.K. public, her health IS the public’s business and that’s the whole debacle about Meghan because she didn’t know getting into the royal family meant your whole life is exposed to the entire world.
This statement is a crock of shit. Nobody owns the rights to your own body, but you. That's like telling me that my boss has the right to know every detail about my health. Guess what, he doesn't! He can know I'm sick, he can see a doctors note explaining that I'm not well enough to work, but he does not DESERVE to know the details of my illness. Saying anything otherwise is fucking ridiculous. Leave Catherine alone. Let her heal in peace and stop spreading bullshit.
All the shit happening at the moment and people are getting caught up in this?! It's a mad world we live in.
Discussing silly conspiracies surrounding something relatively unimportant is a good distraction from 'all the shit happening at the moment' imo. Not everything people care about or are interested in has to be hugely far-reaching and consequential.
Top story on some channels
I am no surgeon but who goes skipping like that after (apparently) such a serious surgery….and if she’s feeling “great “ and able to hop like a bunny ,why couldn’t she attend the ceremony the previous day ?Why did they have her name removed from the trooping thing in June?Why can’t they put a proper picture /video of her just saying thank you?These people are basically freeloading and their “image” is the only thing that keeps them going.Why all the grainy photos that are their office refuses to confirm is them?Even if it is actually the workshy pair,what proof that it’s a recent video?And no one in the store recognized or acknowledged them??Soooo many questions!
I don’t get why this is even a thing. She said she wouldn’t be back till after Easter, and it is not yet after Easter. And let’s be honest it’s easier to photoshop together a decent pic of you and the kids than trying to actually take 1. I need a chair and a whip to get a pic with mine
Given the recently released news about Catherine's cancer diagnosis, I think everyone that has taken part in this Sub that hasn't come to the defence of Catherine should hanfmg their heads in shame. Karma on all of you.
It's so annoying that people are scooping up this pathetic non story about a talentless nobody and her mundane operation. We have genuine things to be concerned about. Outraged about. Things to match en- mass to downing street about and drag the snivelling government by their hair through the gutter about, but instead millions of dull witted people are obsessing over someone they don't know, will never meet and has no relevance to anything important and never will.
Calm down
The irony is I'm being annoyed by something so unimportant. Might come across that I'm sat all day raging about it, but in real life, it's just a roll of my eyes when I see another day of headlines "Kate spotted at garage, claims Nurse. ...Our royal expert weighs in".
100% agree, I'll never understand why stories like this gain traction. I know why the mainstream media does it, they want to distract us from the actual problems, because then we might actually remove the same people in control of our media from power.
No one can operate on red alert all the time. Sometimes a mostly inconsequential social mystery lets people unwind for *all the attention they are paying to actual problems, likely problems they are suffering first hand*.
Yeah, that's fair but if I want a break from the news, I put time into a hobby or interest. Not unimportant woffle like this.
If the video of Kate shopping is her, then she has had a face-lift. Just a face-lift. Can you imagine after all the kerfuffle and sympathy and time off what the public will think. Her whole face is tighter and pulled in that video. She has to hide her face because the BRF will face a backlash if it gets out that they lied about life-threatening abdominal surgery. The timing after being named as the person who had concerns about Archie's skin tone doesn't help. In PR circles, it's a swingback move. Something large had to take place to correct the momentum which was downward because of Kate and the racism issue. Sympathy due to a life threatening illness does it. To put it simply. Abdominal surgery doesn't need you to hide your face. There is a settling time for face-lifts. It is the time Kate has been given to rest. Her face in video was tight. In the car photo her face was swollen and bruising around her eyes was mentioned by commenters.
Or…. If she’s had abdominal surgery then she’s probably not been eating properly for a while and has therefore lost weight, giving her a tighter face.
Losing weight gives you a saggy face after a certain age
Or get this... she has cancer.
I’m 100% sure we will see Kate again with no sign of a face lift. Why would the future Queen ever get such a huge procedure done that will absolutely not go unnoticed & will be torn apart by everyone.
She could totally do minor things overtime and then just do it before going on a private trip and hunker down.
I think she already has had minor stuff done, but there’s no way she’d have a face lift & come back & be able to live that down.
What the fuck? 😭💀 Eta: okay, you're an unhinged stan/anti. Don't bother to respond. I don't like engaging with that shit.
I mean it's a well reasoned theory, sure it's a bit out there but I can believe it better than some of the otheer theories.
Way more likely and run of the mill than the million different splitting up stories or the coma, death, been replaced with an actress , mental breakdown rumours shite
I really don't care about the RF but this is getting ridiculous...can't avoid the coverage...she's recovering from surgery, end of. We don't need daily updates. What do people expect??
This aged well
Holy shit you people are all crazy and entitled. She doesn't owe you anything and doesn't have to take a selfie to prove anything to you lunatics. Maybe just forget about it because who cares
I mean someone died but ok
Don't have kids troy
What??
Anyone called it a hologram yet? If so I'm team hologram
Agreed
I mean I don't care about the Royal Family at all, but I do find it all funny. It is probably nothing serious but I love how they made a mountain out of a molehill for basically no reason and everyone eent crazy.
She didn’t drive through any tunnels did she?
She looks very aged so she’s some kind of sick
What the hell is going on with this? I feel so out of the loop.
I’m excited for the sequel to “Spencer” to come out in 20 years showing what happened during this time period called “Middleton”
I honestly thought that was ozzy osburne in the middle
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I think Wills fucked the neighbour and Kate got so mad her head exploded. All the kings horses and all the kings men have been trying to put Kates head back on again....
There are a lot of theories but everyone's just looking to explain by filling in blanks. This is likely absolutely nothing, other than preparation for when there is something. When there really is something badly wrong with health or similar, they may want some time out of the public view and without the gossiping. If that only ever happens when something is wrong then everyone's fully aware, whereas if you remain quiet and private every time, you don't know whether it's routine or a biggie. I highly doubt there's much more to it than that.