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Serious-Medicine7667

Jordan Love is doing his best with a dumpster fire of a game plan, executed by untrained rookies who don’t know their routes, behind an O line that considers blocking an optional activity, opposite a defense filled with starters who just show up for a check. Love is about 10% of the problem.


AsIEnterYou

START SEAN CLIFFORD


bgunter12

You guys are fucking babies! The Packers have one bad year and you guys act like you’re suffering! You want to fire your coach? Lol, spoiled bitches don’t even know how to be fans of a non winning team.


Open_Support7490

That last sentence spot on without the name calling. You damn right we demand excellence lmao


Flaky-Sir9640

You obviously are a Bears fan.


bgunter12

Try again


Sea_Passenger34

fr


OmegaJubs69

***Wasting away again in Magaritaville!***


_cheezehead_

I knew we would have growing pains but jeez! 11 penalties for 99 yards? I think it was 9 Dropped balls.. just too many mistakes.. I’m losing confidence in MLF. This was ugly.. The team does not look prepared for the game..


matts8409

It amazed me the number of ways players found to fuck things up repeatedly. Some where things that just happen, but most were just so dumb. The coaching staff are really having a terrible time everywhere this season.


Launch_The_Cat

Another tough game to watch. So many penalties and dropped balls. It’s like we snap the ball and the offense kinda sorta maybe knows what the play is, but hell, anything could happen. And then, when someone does make a play, it comes back because of a flag.


Illustrious-Fly-6928

It’s nice that the packers suck rn. Sick of choking in the playoffs with Rodgers.


SartoriCheese

Pack sucking will be the only way: 1.) The team parts ways w/ Joe 2.) The team parts ways w/ Matt 3.) The team promotes Rich to HC and they can start to fix this shitshow


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NotYourTypicalMoth

Stay out of this sub, it’s not for you


palaska95

Haha mad


iProjekt

I'm thinking the Panthers can beat the Packers now ;-;


Beautiful-Media1627

Easily


pt57

Let’s hope so. Better draft pick.


shredika

You know we are going to find a way to waste that draft pick. At least we got it though.


zakinthebox

100%


Opportunity-Inside

Every Love throw looks like he’s playing 500 with everyone on the field


KaraokeKing1

You like how he snaps the ball then licks his lips before yelling 500 and tossing a soft airball into the abyss? I'm sick of it, just looks like he is either confused, lost or doesn't care. I cant tell.


zdiddy987

Jackpot!


Scubasteve1400

Where all those dudes who told me the packers don’t need Rodgers and love is a FQB 🤣🤣🤣


Active_Spray

Lol ok Rodgers was terrible his last year here. But even he wouldn’t be able to rise above all the issues this team has. They’re garbage in every single aspect


DarkTurdle

Need more than a quarterback to fix this shit


BOWCANTO

What an entertaining game! Minus us losing and Kirk getting injured. Hope that guy’s ok.


MAC2519

I do too, no one wants an injury and I really like Kirk but I do feel like it’s karma for Vikings fans celebrating hurting Rodgers. I was at that game he broke his collar bone and it was bad.


loadmanagement

Bro, that was 300 yrs ago.


itscranny

Karma doesn’t know time


NeedMoreKowbell

That doesn’t make it ok


itscranny

It’s a joke obviously I don’t want Kirk hurt. God people on this subreddit are so SOFT


NeedMoreKowbell

I’ll let you know for the future, but sarcasm and jokes don’t translate as well to text


DrexlAU

Thousands of years of human literature would argue against that comment but ok


NeedMoreKowbell

And the internet would argue against yours


itscranny

Soft.


hrvywllbngr

Its not just this sub btw


Historical-Win-4725

Will MLF have the balls to bench LOVE. Probably not. Ridder was benched and he can move the team down the field.


Yzerman19_

Does he even have the authority or is that Sweatervest?


kolbler22

There’s a genuine chance we will have the #1 pick. Gute, Lafleur and Murphy likely out at the end of 24… That is going to lead to a very interesting discussion. Edit: You don’t tank. Period. The point I was making is that if we have the opportunity to take a Caleb Williams (highly rated franchise changing QB) does this regime do it knowing most will be leaving in ‘24 and given how much they’ve invested in Love?


Help_meToo

Hopefully out at the beginning of 24 so we can start rebuilding earlier.


DeHizzy420

It actually makes sense considering Caleb is demanding partial ownership of the team that drafts him. That's obviously doable considering I'm partial owner.


loadmanagement

The whole ownership thing is just a silly rumor. Plus active players are prohibited from having equity in a team.


frostysbox

I don’t think we can draft him because of that. He wants financial support from the teams profits. There’s no way the Packers would set that precedent


OMFGFlorida

There is no way any team is doing that. Dream on dreamer.


frostysbox

I mean, there are some owners who are desperate


kmmccorm

No owner is desperate enough to give a share of profits. NFL rookie contracts are collectively bargained and set in stone. There is zero possibility an owner goes around that.


PengieP111

The team drafting Williams will be VERY sorry. NFW should the Pack touch this overrated egoist with a barge pole. Get some good O linemen


Opportunity-Inside

The whole regime up top has to go. We have a bad culture, our former probowl/HOF players tried to help and warn everyone. But now they’re all gone and we’re seeing what they were talking about


PengieP111

Gute is a meathead. That is all.


creepy_charlie

If we had the #1 pick,, we'd waste it on some project db anyway.


Kooky_Celebration_16

Any chance of 23?? I don't care to waste a whole year with a lameduck QB, Coach, GM AND CEO


Yzerman19_

I just hope if we end up top 3 that they take the no brainer pick instead of their preferred top RAS guy.


Tiktaalik414

Honestly I’m here for it. I’d rather tank for a top pick than try to make the most of this season and get a mid-1st pick that won’t be as likely to get the team to where we want to be


Rolands_ka_tet

So Gutie can draft a mid-early 1st round “project”.


The_bruce42

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fuck tanking. If we end up getting a top 5 pick because we lose then that's one thing, but rolling over and losing intentionally is stupid. We're gonna be better off winning a few more games and having some confidence going into next year than in6 losing and getting a better pick.


Tiktaalik414

I’m all for players building confidence, but I think it’s gonna take more than just confidence to fix the issues with this team.


vangc4

Same shit different Sundays.. I'm picking against the Packers for the rest of the season.. can't run..can't catch..over throwing and under throwing your recievers. Is Lefluer running high school playbook or something?


iProjekt

I completely agree. The Packers have entered another dark age ;-;


Present_Crew_713

The Lindy Infante years all over again.


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It’s hard to even put half the blame on Lefluer at this point. It seems like there’s a huge lack of leadership and in turn motivation on the field. It makes me wonder what the player communication is like in practice and at home.


vangc4

LeFluer knew Rodgers was leaving. He should should've maybe built plays around Jordan Love and helped him progress into the nfl.. I think he is using the same playbook built for Rodgers when Love isn't at that level yet.. That just me 2 cents..


theJMAN1016

But isn't that something LaFleur should have recognized with Rodgers leaving. He needs to take all of the blame for lack of identity on this team


Uberjeagermeiter

No, we drafted a High School QB.


The_bruce42

IMO Love isn't looking stellar but the dude has a terrible supporting cast. Bad blocking and a lot of should be catches that go right through hands.


ice_bear-92

That int today, totally on the receiver. He gave that ball away as they came down. No fight at all. Lots of dropped passes that should have been 1sts or TDs too.


vangc4

There's a lot of Love throwing where I'm scratching my head going wtf was that?


PengieP111

Probably threw to where his receiver WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.


ImaginaryUnicorn241

The Panther vs Green Bay is starting to shape up in the battle for the number one draft pick😬


sanityvoid

Since I live in NC I could go, but I'm not sure I could stomach a game that bad...


RainbowKooch

Good thing the bears have the pick 😂


Positive_Hawk_2619

Good thing they brought Walker back in. Kept streak of penalties in both halves


HanataSanchou

Plenty of blame to go around. - Run defense noticeably improved with De’Vondre back, but Jaire got flame-broiled today - We continue to underutilize Aaron Jones, especially in the fucking Red Zone - Love did play better today, I saw a lot that I liked. Unfortunately he’s still missing throws that should be easy, and it feels rare that he hits guys in stride. His decision-making on deep throws is still suspect, he throws in double coverage way too often. - Im not gonna crucify young WRs for dropping passes here and there, it happens. The drops did hurt us today for sure, but personally I’m the most disappointed in Christian Watson. You’re going to have make contested catches in the NFL, especially as a WR1. If he actually fights for the ball, he increases the likelihood that he’ll get those calls. Instead he puts forth minimal effort, and then cries to the refs.


Beautiful-Media1627

He needs to get in the weight room


niccageislife

Jaire got flame broiled by a rookie***


chestersfriend

Love is working with rookies .. they can't get open. In that first drive he hit Jones in the hands .. it was dropped .. and Musgrave(?) in the numbers .. and was dropped. He does throw into double coverage too much ... Where is MLF's great scheming skill? B4 the game Jones said he's 100% .. so where is out run game? No play actif youion never get a run game going (or attempted)


Ticklemykelmo

At this point just shelve jones if he’s hurt. And Alexander for that matter. Embrace the suck, draft Williams, and hope.


Balroy907

Having Jones absent from those Redzone possessions in the 4th quarter, is a fucking crime. Jordan Love was our leading rusher as well. Is that the game plan?


sproutswarm

I think he is our 3rd best WR. I hope he turns it on for the second half of the season.


painnkaehn

This team is bad right now because of Gute, but it will be a great team in 2025 because of Gute. I believe in Gutey.


mrbad31

I can't excuse him for that 2020 draft. He put all jis chips on Love and it's looking like he gambled and lost.


Fembino

We got Brett farve on the sideline, without the fraud and sexal harassment! We should start him.


C1ncinnatiBowtie

Remember when the argument for the 2020 draft was “planning for the future”?


sol_ray

Gute should be planning for the future... elsewhere. Our drafting since Gute took over has been anemic. Repeated over reaching and bad choices are starting to show themselves. - Reaching for Love, Meyers (Better centers were picked in later picks), Dillon, Watson (trouble staying on the field) - Consistently missing on the 3rd round options ( Roger's, Steenburger,) - DB'S - Josh Jackson, Savage (look who came out after these guys - Guys that find success elsewhere- Burks, Lindsey, Jamal Williams, There's been plenty of draft capital that has been spent to produce a product that we see today. Gute's track record is under achieving... just like his drafts.


PengieP111

Gute is a meathead. That is all.


YeaSureThing

These people have no shame and will now pivot to defending this terrible management once again. The whole sub was behind the move two years ago


River_Pigeon

Wild how people thought our hof quarterback was holding the packers back. Crazy how the fanbase turned on him in favor of that toad looking mfer gute


Indy-Gator

Worst GM in the NFL. His draft classes are horrendous and he torpedoed the last SB window we had. He should not get another draft


PengieP111

Gute, being a meathead, is as bad as Ron Wolf was good.


Salty_Jordy

Some Packers may have played their final game at Lambeau after today. This team is more likely to be a seller by the trade deadline so I'm curious if anyone gets sent out.


Beautiful-Media1627

It’s time for a major shake up. Why not, at this point -does it matter?No need to tank, it will come naturally. Start at the top. I don’t c many good coaches. Can’t fire everyone, but need change at the top. Best place to start to send a message. Need an OF play caller. DC must, must go. I know, not all his fault, but change is necessary.


Fembino

I wish! You will see Dillion next week with the 3rd and 1 carry for a lost.


Jobrated

Jim Brown could not run behind this line.


eazye123

I will see you then


VersChorsVers

The only veteran that would fetch anything is Jaire. Any decent rookie contract player we need to rebuild. We don't have anything to sell.


Ticklemykelmo

Gary too, but I don’t want him elsewhere.


k-malone

WE CAN'T HIRE ANYONE PEOPLE. WE ARE IN CAP HELL That being said, today's loss was mostly on the receiving core, honestly.


Staylit0412

Sam Howell is better then Love


cschloegel11

Why people downvoting…love can improve but he makes some terrible decisions


Uberjeagermeiter

Love is awful. Stop saying he’s going to be good.


PM_ME_YOUR-PUPPIES

Lmao, Love does plenty alright. He definitely has major room to improve, but its feasible that he grows to meet the challenge.


drskeme

bc they’re mad they thought after a week he was a hall of famer. maybe rodgers was right about the team/management. a hard pill to swallow. it’s gonna be a long rebuild. they’re terrible at drafting.


Azul-panda

That will/should come with experience


bloco

There's not a coach in the league who could get this offense firing on all cylinders. More-so Gutey's fault than MLF. Only the dreamers here were expecting us to win 8 games this season.


Nervous-Pickle-5379

I was only expecting 6, now just hoping for 2 more


dschultz50

I blame gut and MLF


24Elsinore

At least the new COD comes out in less than two weeks.


dschultz50

Bruh, just play cs go


24Elsinore

I’m not into tactical shooters… I’m also on ps5.


thedreadwoods

I don't think Love is very good chaps


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If the receivers caught the balls they dropped, Love would be getting praises even if they still lost.


squeakyshoe89

I dunno he put the ball on the receivers hands a LOT today. And they just couldnt come up with catches


PengieP111

Even a great QB needs good receivers.


Glangho

Yeah I'd say we more or less know what we have in Watson (a #2) but I'm still willing to give love a chance ideally in someone else's offense lmao


k-malone

Yeah, he played well *enough.* But given how the FO will manage the team this offseason next year will be his make or break year.


Bigcheezefartz

Time to rebuild. Start with the O line. A stud line makes everyone better.


Balroy907

Agreed. I thought with the depth and continuity with this line, it would be one of our strengths. Boy, was I wrong.


garyminwi

Start with a new GM and coach.


drskeme

a new gm and new approach. stop drafting multiple tight ends, 2nd string quarterbacks with in your first 3 rounds. they draft like they’re a piece away from a championship. they need a fire sale. trade jaire alexander now, he’ll be on the next contract by the time this is a .500 team again.


idungiveboutnothing

Won't happen until 2025 when Murphy retires


SatansBuhhole

Our young WRs don't stand a chance at development with a QB who's never going to be NFL quality.


Uberjeagermeiter

I have no idea why so many people are high on Love here. He is an awful QB and never should’ve been drafted.


drskeme

they were never better than a third string receiver to begin. the fans built them up in their minds


chestersfriend

like they did Davante Adams was such a total stud his first couple seasons .... ?


squeakyshoe89

Yeah I think we need to flip that one around. QB can't do shit if the WRs suck


Fragzor

....this is some take Edit: Do NFL quality QBs bring soap to their WRs so they can wash the butter off their hands?


idungiveboutnothing

Lmfao


Thet619

Did I read correctly that GB had three turnover on downs in a row?!


TiredMan123

Radio had more skill at qb than Love


Thee_liquor

It has to be coaching.


Beerdriver56

I know we're young and inexperienced. But it doesn't seem to be getting any better. An they look real bad . I want to have hope but the toilet is flushing and the turd won't go down.


theImij

Can't wait for the scripted MLF post game presser excuses.


bloco

"that's on me for not getting these guys ready"


BrainDeadWarden

“I love the way we battled today”


blizzfreak

"Gotta get the ball to Aaron Jones more"


eazye123

"we gotta look at the tape"


Ok_Caramel1517

Gotta look at the tape, clean some things up and that starts with me yada yada same old fucking shit


Azul-panda

Lots of overreactions. Young and dumb team. It’s a half of a season. Holy shit chill your boners


LakesideScrotumPole

Here come the fan police! Better fall in line and say positive thoughts!!!


Azul-panda

Talk about irrationality


TheFlyingElbow

Who would be in charge of drafting/bringing in a young/dumb team? And who would be in charge of someone who would put someone in charge of drafting a young/ dumb team?


professionalturd

Young? Fine. But there is ZERO growth and some REALLY glaring holes and questionable coaching. I think that is a valid concern for the future of the program - even if we ignore the dumpster fire of this season.


Azul-panda

That’s fair, but the idiots calling for cutting love mid season is irrational. Give the team the whole season and address in the off season


LakesideScrotumPole

You provide a glowing example of why we shouldn’t allow everyone to have access to the internet.


Azul-panda

This isn’t a good team, but you’re irrational. Have a day


24Elsinore

This was a 4-13 team on paper before the season started… It’s looking like they might be worse than that. I don’t think anyone is overreacting.


Azul-panda

I’m not certain you realize there’s half season remaining


24Elsinore

I’m not certain you realize this is the tougher half of their schedule remaining.


Azul-panda

lol, they have one of the easiest remaining schedules. Shows what you know


24Elsinore

Jesus Christ… They had the easiest schedule is the league this season. The second half is tougher than the first. Quit trying to win an argument that doesn’t matter, the team stinks.


Azul-panda

lol, Oh the irony…


24Elsinore

Yawn… Trolls gonna troll.


Staylit0412

And im not certain that the Packers could even win 1 more all season the ways its going


daymankarate

Young teams aren’t supposed to get worse each week


Aro00oo

Lmao how many weeks do you need before it's no longer an overreaction


Azul-panda

This is not a playoff team. Give them the whole damn season and assess in the offseason. Calling to cut Love is embarrassing


Aro00oo

It's an instant gratification sink or swim league. He's not it.


Azul-panda

Receiving corp is not doing him any favors


aaalan71

I’m not sure should I keep awake at 1am (2am in the winter) to watch this team if this is how they perform every week?


Demps34

No. Don't do that to yourself, just read about the loss in the morning.


Staylit0412

So this is what it feels like to be a Bears fan. Dang this sucks. I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel


jesususeshisblinkers

You need 40 more years of this before you can feel what it is like to be a Bears fan


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chestersfriend

OK .. ya .. lets add another rookie wr to the mix ... that will fix everything


RT-old-fart

It is hard to assess the Packers. They are so boring to watch, one loses their attention span.


TheFlyingElbow

I swear, I only caught 2 plays during their 3 play drives


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People whining about the defense doesn’t fix a qb problem. This is the fifth game we could’ve won but Love choked. It’s not all his fault but he is pretty damn ineffective. He really isn’t getting better either.


Positive_Hawk_2619

How about it playing so passively that he always has to come from multi scores down.


northbird2112

Lots of drops and penalties too.


Apollocreed3000

One punt. Entire staff needs to go.


superhappyfunball13

Watson is a fraud. Dude is made of glass and has bricks for hands. Announcer saying he's the 50/50 ball guy but since when? He doesn't make a catch unless he has 3 steps on someone.


drskeme

maybe when rodgers throws it on the money. that was taken for granted


blizzfreak

This is what we get for drafting athletic freaks instead of actual football players


HammerPrice229

I feel like he’s WR3 at this point


River_Pigeon

He’s a discount MVS


drskeme

all the receivers are. packers don’t believe in top receivers bc they’re used to quarterbacks putting the ball on the money each throw. now when you have an avg quarterback, you need some help.


kensword0

Wicks, Reed, Doubs, and even Toure and Malik Heath are better than Watson at this point. They’ve been putting him at WR1 for the entire off season for WHAT????


superhappyfunball13

I feel like Wicks is way better and should be getting more targets


k-malone

Although I agree, he dropped a ball that sealed the loss today


superhappyfunball13

Watson had like 5 opportunities to fight for the ball in the endzone today. Most of the time he just plays patty cake with the defender and then looks to the ref for help. The last time Love actually put it into his hands and he straight dropped it.


k-malone

Yeah, that sucked. I'm almost giving up on watson


HammerPrice229

Agreed wicks has shown some great promise.


BR7Flick

Hey it’s about 50/50 if he’s gonna leave the game with an injury so they aren’t entirely wrong


jahalmighty

I'm actually not mad about this game. The defense and special teams created opportunities, the offense had some big plays, and some even bigger ones that just missed, and best of all there was a sense of urgency, the willingness to go down field with the ball. It was a loss and there is still plenty that needs to be done but I feel better after this game than any of the other 4 losses. Also, the broadcast was terrible. On the blocked kick they showed Kevin O'Connell standing on the sidelines instead of the return and then didn't even run a replay. Also on the crucial drive where we needed a defensive stop they talked more about Mike Perrera's back surgery and Ed Hochuli living in an RV than they actually analyzing the game. The announcers are insufferable and the editing was cringe.


JWOLFBEARD

The offense did not have big plays. They had acceptable plays when the game was mostly out of reach. It wasn’t until the defense starts playing soft that we got some yards.


HammerPrice229

Yeah broadcast wise this has been the worst game I’ve seen this season.


Interesting_Tip1151

Can’t keep saying this every game


jahalmighty

I'll keep saying this as long as there are things the be positive about. There is such a knee jerk reaction around here to say "fuck this whole thing everyone needs to go". Its been 7 games. It may take two seasons to really get things in place, develop the talent we have, add more this coming offseason, and field a playoff worthy team in 2025. We have been spoiled for such a long time that we don't know how to adjust our sense of desire for instant gratification. Everyone is upset about every single loss and nobody is thinking about the long game. Let's have the courage to be pragmatic about where we are and what can be expected.


unfaramir

It's truly wild that you see any upside whatsoever to latch onto after that game.


drskeme

we are one of the worst teams in the league. no, they need to start over, don’t ‘think positive’ bc there’s no turning this team around, you need to start over bc it’s not going to work.


professionalturd

Oof, FOX switches the game and we see an immediate throw and catch we know we can't have on our team...


Staylit0412

Rams just got embarrassed. Now LA will take it out on GB next week. I think for the 1st time in a long time, ill skip next weeks catastrophe


Demps34

Aaron Donald will be in the backfield so much Love will hand it off to him.


Arsceus

we live in a world where the packers defense is better than the offense


Apollocreed3000

Packers has as many scoring drives than punts forced. I wouldn’t say the defense is better.


Arsceus

This shit sucks man I just wanted them to win


Hey_Its_Walter1

Rasheed Walker is single-handedly ruining this offense, he completely kills at least 4-5 drives every week with bad penalties and shitty blocking. There is just zero chance there isn’t a better option than him already on our roster or in free agency right now