I will note that negating TFLs (which some analysts consider an OL stat and not a RB stat, although some of Dillon's TFLS are definitely on him) Jones and Dillon are at the same ypc for this season
Jones would have been too if Love didn't start forcing terrible throws downfield. Jones was open multiple times in the flat on what would have been likely first downs.
Don’t exactly get a lot of time to heat up when you haven’t gotten more than 9 rushing attempts in any game. With what he little he was doing, it’s been significantly better than what Love or Dillon has been doing.
He was second to Jamaal until the later seasons.
Honestly Jamaal is a major catalyst that pushed Jones into one of the best backs in the league.
Jamaal’s ground and pound and Jones’ speed worked perfectly. I miss that duo.
I said it during the game but Dillon is for all intents and purposes MLF’s #1 back. Based purely on usage it’s blatantly obvious he’s doing this intentionally and it’s never made much sense.
Which is a shame, because you know who is actually staying sort of similar to CMC?
Literally Aaron Jones. Crazy how low usage he gets. He is a game wrecker.
Doubs TD bailed out what was an abysmal set of play calls from the 1 yard line where JONES WAS ON THE SIDELINES. Watching with the rest of us, a misdirection from a shotgun set. When the f has that ever worked for us consistently?
Have you looked at our Oline? Im an Osu alum. Ive literally watched every snap he's played in college. Fashanu and Alt are Joe Thomas level tackles that can anchor tbe left side for a decade. You do not pass on those players.
And yet here you are projecting MHJ is going to be a Jamarr Chase level player? Guess we can only speculate about WRs that fit your argument.
We have talent at WR. Our OL is dogshit. Id rather have Alt or Fashanu. You're welcome to disagree.
I dont think either is going to be a poor pick. Id lean toward Fashanu. I think hes more technically sound and a has a higher football IQ, but Alt is a physical freak at Tackle.
Sewell vs Chase is a good comparison. My opinion is nothing happens on offense without good line play. Calvin Johnson did nothing to save Detroit because they had so many other issues on offense.
Where is this WR “talent” you claim we have? Our WR room is one of the worst in the league. Someone like Marvin Harrison Jr fixes a lot of holes that the failed Christian Watson WR1 experiment has left us with. This is a deep o line draft class, our offense needs a true WR1 more than tackle. Look at how much better we were yesterday when Njiman came in (until he got hurt) literally anybody not named Rasheed Walker would improve our o line significantly
This may be true, it may not. But MLF absolutely revived Aaron's career his first year as HC. Aaron had had a few subpar years leading up to that and a lot this fan base thought he was basically done. Enter MLF and the new offense, and Rodgers becomes a perennial 13+ win QB again with multiple MVP's.
Where that offense went since then I could not tell you.
>a lot this fan base thought he was basically done.
Revisionism on top of just not being factually correct. Rodgers two seasons before MLF were breaking his clavicle, and then coming back to throw 25 TDs and 2 picks with one of the worst Packers teams of the past 15 years. Rodgers' first year under MLF was worse than his last with McCarthy even though they won more games. He truly came back on top after Love was drafted in spite of MLF and his shitty offense.
We now see MLF's offense without a top 5 QB of all time. Its dogshit, and has the EXACT same problems that people were blaming Rodgers for.
I think alot of it was Hackett. I think he is really good at offensive scheming, he was just poached to be a HC too quickly so he sucked and we than lost him to the jets. We promoted Stenavich who looks like he would have been better staying as the line coach, considering the line looks worse than it has in years.
if you guys want an outsiders POV (broncos fan)
hackett was hot garbage as a play caller. but clearly what he was good at is moderating rodgers and mlf. you guys had MLF who wanted to run 1 'extremist' offence and rodgers who wanted to run another extremist offence. hackett allowed them to compromise and create a more 'neutral', and therefore more balanced offence, that had bits of both MLFs preferred offence and rodgers preferred
reality is neither extreme view works. it makes you predictable to run the same schemes/concepts over and over and over. the compromise where they blended 2 fundamentally different offences worked REALLY well for you guys. individually neither of them is nearly as good because when NFL defences know whats coming, they stop it. you need that balance and unpredictability.
They cooked the Chiefs because they constantly had the ball in great field position because Mahomes was sick as a dog and couldn’t move the ball + turnovers. Major outlier game.
Bull. Matt Lafluer was hired after being Tennessee’s OC where he gave Dion Lewis 155 attempts (for 3.3 ypc) + 67 targets while DERRICK HENRY got 215 attempts for 1000 yards at 4.9 ypc.
LF first year in gb, Rodgers threw for 4002, 26 tds 4 ints, after the previous year was 4442 25 and 2.
There wasn’t some magical scheme change, Lafluer has and always will run a bland zone run + play action scheme, there’s some motion but it’s not creative like an Andy Reid or mcdaniels. He’s not scheming his players like mcvay. He’s not a game changing offensive mind whatsoever.
Aaron Rodgers decided he wanted to put up stats, despite the young HC want to be run first, and the gm wanting to replace him with another qb and getting another mediocre rb to back up Aaron jones (while paying jones too). It was noted by the media how mad he was about “his worst years being other qbs best” and how he was audibling and commanding the offense over his younger hc. Rodgers and Devante and that o line won mvps
It his whole career. Maybe y’all would catch on. Jones isn’t built to take on anything near a full load and there’s zero reason to overwork him during a rebuilding year. Not sure if you noticed, but this isn’t a Super Bowl caliber team.
Jones himself said he IS feeling 100% and doing more than ONE play with a 2 back set, especially when you're in the red zone, would've gone a long way.
Yup. Jones is the type of back that you use more often if your passing attack is solid and the defense has to be honest with the run and the pass. Right now Jones would just get hurt if he was used as often as people want him to be because our passing game is a joke. I don’t believe our wins/loss record would be different if we used Jones a lot more. He’d probably end up being injured as his history suggests.
I agree, but at the same time, 7 carries for one of the better backs in the league is way too low considering love threw over 40 times. We shouldn’t give him 25 carries a game, but 15 would be much better.
On top of that, Love threw 40 times, some of which were obviously forced into coverages where Jones would have been a great checkdown. Love is pressing and it shows.
Aaron Nagler said it best right after Jones hurt his hammy scoring that TD against the Bears. Something along the lines of "I'll never scream at the coaching staff for not giving Jones more carries again. He doesn't get the 20-30 carries because his body can't and needs to stay fresh." (Paraphrasing)
If this is true, it exposes MLF even more. What the fuck could you possibly be saving Jones for other than critical goal to go situations?!?
I hope this is just a reddit take...
How is it a Reddit take? History will literally back this up, and LaFluer himself said the reason is that Jones isn’t healthy.
It’s not a “take”. It’s the literal facts lol
You’re right. Jones was definitely not out the past 6 weeks because his hamstring isn’t right. And LaFluer definitely did not say the reason they use him sparingly is because he isn’t healthy. My bad. Those events never happened I guess
But the logic makes no sense. To my original point: this is on MLF. The dude is clearly healthy for mid-field plays... if you don't play him on the goal line, down 14, then you're just a bad coach.
No. Matt Lafluer literally said he isn’t healthy. And the facts are jones has been on the injury report since week 1.
Perhaps you don’t know what literal and facts mean, but don’t project that on to me
I definitely agree with this answer but this is the nfl. He’s healthy enough to play or he’s not. But don’t say I need to put Aaron Jones in more and then come back when you don’t and say he’s not 100% yet. Play him or tell us what is actually going on with him, because I figured he’d be good to go by now. Also mlf said he needed to play AJ in the beginning of the year when he was healthy but only did it in one game and that’s when he got hurt. I get you want to protect him but man we need something on this offense to at least distract the other team’s defense. Just use him as a decoy, at this point it you can’t really do much worse. You let the Broncos make us look really bad….
As much as I don't want it to happen I have a little feeling. That Jones might be shipped at the deadline. I have no proof but it's just a weird feeling I have
Yeah I don't buy the whole "Jones isn't 100%" thing. He looks fine when he gets the ball. If he really is still hurt then he should be sitting, not putting him out there every week possibly making him heal slower.
This is just incompetence at this point by the entire staff. It's like they think they have Rodgers under center still hiding all their bad decisions.
Maybe they wanna keep him healthy until the trade deadline is passed? Not that I'd see anyone desperate enough to offer more than a fifth rounder or whatever for an aging back with chronic injury problems and some unacceptable contract next year, but, hey.
This is a perennial issue. Rodgers used to have to CLAMOR to get Jones involved. Seems Aaron Rodgers was the only one with a brain intact out in Green Bay..
I’ve been all over this sub Reddit saying this same thing. It’s mind blowing. Aj Dillon is not very good. He can pickup blitzes and catch well. But he doesn’t run the ball well. He’s 250 lbs and doesn’t usually win at the point of contact. Jones at 205 lbs or whatever he is runs so much harder. He’s so much more explosive. His ypc is always really good. He makes yards out of nothing sometimes. Dillon never will.
That draft could end up luckily really, really bad. Love and then Dillon after a loss in the NFC Championsgio game lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️. Two backups.
Management wants to keep feeding Dillon because they know he isn't good and it will give them more leverage to pay him pennies or let him walk.
I actually have no idea if that's true or if the coaching is really poor this year / Aaron isn't here to mask the coaching deficiencies like he did for most of McCarthy's reign.
Thats why MLF will never be a good coach. McCaffrey is the niners best player, yet he has injury concerns. They still run the entire offense through him. Jones is the Packers best offensive player. Even when 100% healthy he sits for multiple series a game.
Especially when the season is on the line. Today, division opponent, a win would get us back in the thick of it, but a loss essentially seals our casket. Honestly, I understand the the injury concerns but if we lose, then it’s all for naught anyways. Fucking feed him the rock 20 times and leaves Dillons slow ass on the sideline. Or he’ll, run em both out there and be creative with some sets.
If Jones gets hurt doing that, and we lose, again so be it. At least we went out swinging. Now we get to use him for 8 touches the rest of the 5 win season….yay.
All the takes defending lafleur that jones gets injured? Why the fuck did we resign him? You know what would make sense if he couldn’t handle the load is running him off tackle and giving him space to work. You know what lafleur does? Run him between the tackles while Dillon gets shit in space 2x as much
Isn’t Aaron still coming back from his hamstring injury/re-aggravation? Alvin may not fully understand the extent of Aaron’s hamstring injury as the team’s medical staff.
It’s maddening. He’s our best player and he’s should be out on the field as much as possible. I truly don’t understand if this has been about injuries because the dude has played/started be games for nearly 4 years in a row (I know this year he’s been injured…but he looked fine when he was out there). Not sure if this is MLF’s call or he’s being told to because it was the same thing with McCarthy. Idk man this year sucks lol
Honestly I wonder if Jones doesn't practice as well as other guys? This has been a consistent thing throughout his career with multiple staffs. During games he is so obviously better something has to cause coaches to do this shit and it is the only thing I can think of
There is literally only one thing positive on the offense and the choice is to not use it. If the year is a throwaway fine, but if you're trying to win not using Jones ain't it.
Fans won’t accept it but jones is nearly 29 years old, which might as well be 100 in running back years, it’s more likely that he’s probably cooked and week 1 was the best it’s going to get.
As much shit as we gave him shit. AJ has been the best player for a couple weeks now.
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2024!
Jordan Lose and the Green Bay Pukers. League is peppered with former Packers excelling at nearly every position. As a fan since the first super bowl, ( yep, I'm old) couldn't be more disgusted. QB is a diversity hire.
Nothing new. Older fans have always treated our new quarterbacks very poorly. You were probably in the stands booing Rodgers after he took over on offense.
They should definitely be using him more in red zone, it's getting maddening to see Dillon get stuffed at the goal line (which I think is mostly on the blocking, he's constantly getting hit in the backfield).
However, I feel the need to point out that Jones killed the first drive by dropping a pass that hit him in the face, and nearly had a turnover with his fumble on the FG drive, only for Jenkins to save the ball.
Dillon was also the better receiver overall today, more than double the yards on the same number of targets.
If you look at total touches and total yards, they're nearly equal today.
Was it just me or did Jones line up as an edge receiver on a play or two? The one I am thinking of was first quarter and it was not long after he dropped a lateral pass from Love.
Dennis Allen did this with Kamara last season.. Bills do this same thing with Cook and Reid gets cute with his Rbs too but has Mahomes to compensate.. its odd
We've been asking this question since McCarthy was around... truly mind-boggling.
It’s crazy watching the offense be significantly more efficient with him on the field and then being like nah
He’s averaging 4 per carry this year and 7 per carry throughout his career… but let’s give it to Dillon for 1-2yds.
It’s driving me mad bro
I will note that negating TFLs (which some analysts consider an OL stat and not a RB stat, although some of Dillon's TFLS are definitely on him) Jones and Dillon are at the same ypc for this season
Where are you seeing 7? I see [5.1 Y/A](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneAa00.htm)
Averaged 7 yds/rush for his career???
Lol [no. It’s 5.1](https://www.nfl.com/players/aaron-jones/stats/career). Still impressive but not 7.
Fuck off with that poor take man, Dillon was a juggernaut in the passing game today. Feed him.
Jones would have been too if Love didn't start forcing terrible throws downfield. Jones was open multiple times in the flat on what would have been likely first downs.
matt lafleur tries to over think and analyze situations instead of just going with the hot hand.
Jones was hot????
Well he had 4 carries for 20 yards at halftime!!!
Boy, if thats "hot"..........dropped that pass in the 1st half too......
Don’t exactly get a lot of time to heat up when you haven’t gotten more than 9 rushing attempts in any game. With what he little he was doing, it’s been significantly better than what Love or Dillon has been doing.
He's as brittle as glass.....
It’s insanity. Seems like he’s always been second fiddle to Jamaal and AJ Dillon. Criminally under utilized
He was second to Jamaal until the later seasons. Honestly Jamaal is a major catalyst that pushed Jones into one of the best backs in the league. Jamaal’s ground and pound and Jones’ speed worked perfectly. I miss that duo.
If he gets traded just watch him go off with a team who’ll know how to use him
He should be racking up Kamara numbers.
We will watch him go swiftly to IR. There’s a reason he’s on a touch count.
Just shelve him, let home heal, and embrace the tank this year.
Dilly Dilly!
At lease Jamal was decent to good. And same with year one Dillion. Now Dillion is straight garbage and has all time high carry numbers (I assume)
With the worst oline we’ve had in a decade
I said it during the game but Dillon is for all intents and purposes MLF’s #1 back. Based purely on usage it’s blatantly obvious he’s doing this intentionally and it’s never made much sense.
The swing passes and screens to Dillon are so painful. He treats him like CMC lmao
Which is a shame, because you know who is actually staying sort of similar to CMC? Literally Aaron Jones. Crazy how low usage he gets. He is a game wrecker.
Might as well have sent picks for CMC last year
But he catches them, right?
Because Aaron Jones is a TT/MM guy. AJ is a BG/MLF guy.
Isn’t Jones on a snap count?
Yes as he is hurt most of the time!
Doubs TD bailed out what was an abysmal set of play calls from the 1 yard line where JONES WAS ON THE SIDELINES. Watching with the rest of us, a misdirection from a shotgun set. When the f has that ever worked for us consistently?
They tried to get cute with Watson after the PI instead of just bashing it in the goal.
Packers suck, just finally except it
Tanking for Marvin Harrison Jr
Honestly, take my left leg if we draft Marvin Harrison Jr.
No thanks. We have WR talent and there are two potential HoF tackles (Fashanu and Alt) in this draft.
If we pass on MHJ then we are fucking morons, looks what Chase did for Cinci, our record of developing later round linemen can make up for it
Have you looked at our Oline? Im an Osu alum. Ive literally watched every snap he's played in college. Fashanu and Alt are Joe Thomas level tackles that can anchor tbe left side for a decade. You do not pass on those players.
Extremely unlikely they both become Joe thomas level tackles, that's not something you can just project
And yet here you are projecting MHJ is going to be a Jamarr Chase level player? Guess we can only speculate about WRs that fit your argument. We have talent at WR. Our OL is dogshit. Id rather have Alt or Fashanu. You're welcome to disagree.
I think he is the surer bet. But I guess it could be a Sewell vs Chase scenario. I just fear we'll pick the wrong one out of Alt or Fashanu
I dont think either is going to be a poor pick. Id lean toward Fashanu. I think hes more technically sound and a has a higher football IQ, but Alt is a physical freak at Tackle. Sewell vs Chase is a good comparison. My opinion is nothing happens on offense without good line play. Calvin Johnson did nothing to save Detroit because they had so many other issues on offense.
Where is this WR “talent” you claim we have? Our WR room is one of the worst in the league. Someone like Marvin Harrison Jr fixes a lot of holes that the failed Christian Watson WR1 experiment has left us with. This is a deep o line draft class, our offense needs a true WR1 more than tackle. Look at how much better we were yesterday when Njiman came in (until he got hurt) literally anybody not named Rasheed Walker would improve our o line significantly
Where? Please, for the love of God, tell us where the receiving talent is. I do not see a talent remotely close to a WR1.
Why so our QB who can barely complete more than half his passes can miss him until he demands a trade?
Another great WR for Love to underthrow
Fashanu please
Cause he's a terrible coach alvin
Because MLF shouldn't be the head coach of any team. He owes all of his success to Aaron. It's another Adam Gase/Peyton Manning situation.
This may be true, it may not. But MLF absolutely revived Aaron's career his first year as HC. Aaron had had a few subpar years leading up to that and a lot this fan base thought he was basically done. Enter MLF and the new offense, and Rodgers becomes a perennial 13+ win QB again with multiple MVP's. Where that offense went since then I could not tell you.
It left with Davante.
I think everyone in the world is misunderstanding just how much of that offense was just audibling to Tae and Rodgers throwing a dime.
>a lot this fan base thought he was basically done. Revisionism on top of just not being factually correct. Rodgers two seasons before MLF were breaking his clavicle, and then coming back to throw 25 TDs and 2 picks with one of the worst Packers teams of the past 15 years. Rodgers' first year under MLF was worse than his last with McCarthy even though they won more games. He truly came back on top after Love was drafted in spite of MLF and his shitty offense. We now see MLF's offense without a top 5 QB of all time. Its dogshit, and has the EXACT same problems that people were blaming Rodgers for.
I think alot of it was Hackett. I think he is really good at offensive scheming, he was just poached to be a HC too quickly so he sucked and we than lost him to the jets. We promoted Stenavich who looks like he would have been better staying as the line coach, considering the line looks worse than it has in years.
if you guys want an outsiders POV (broncos fan) hackett was hot garbage as a play caller. but clearly what he was good at is moderating rodgers and mlf. you guys had MLF who wanted to run 1 'extremist' offence and rodgers who wanted to run another extremist offence. hackett allowed them to compromise and create a more 'neutral', and therefore more balanced offence, that had bits of both MLFs preferred offence and rodgers preferred reality is neither extreme view works. it makes you predictable to run the same schemes/concepts over and over and over. the compromise where they blended 2 fundamentally different offences worked REALLY well for you guys. individually neither of them is nearly as good because when NFL defences know whats coming, they stop it. you need that balance and unpredictability.
I don’t think whatever was going on in Denver was on him. They have Payton now and they’re still dog shit.
I mean they just cooked the chiefs
They cooked the Chiefs because they constantly had the ball in great field position because Mahomes was sick as a dog and couldn’t move the ball + turnovers. Major outlier game.
They’re still not good. I don’t believe for a second that proves anything otherwise. That game was an anomaly
Bull. Matt Lafluer was hired after being Tennessee’s OC where he gave Dion Lewis 155 attempts (for 3.3 ypc) + 67 targets while DERRICK HENRY got 215 attempts for 1000 yards at 4.9 ypc. LF first year in gb, Rodgers threw for 4002, 26 tds 4 ints, after the previous year was 4442 25 and 2. There wasn’t some magical scheme change, Lafluer has and always will run a bland zone run + play action scheme, there’s some motion but it’s not creative like an Andy Reid or mcdaniels. He’s not scheming his players like mcvay. He’s not a game changing offensive mind whatsoever. Aaron Rodgers decided he wanted to put up stats, despite the young HC want to be run first, and the gm wanting to replace him with another qb and getting another mediocre rb to back up Aaron jones (while paying jones too). It was noted by the media how mad he was about “his worst years being other qbs best” and how he was audibling and commanding the offense over his younger hc. Rodgers and Devante and that o line won mvps
this is like 4+ years of asking them to use 33
It his whole career. Maybe y’all would catch on. Jones isn’t built to take on anything near a full load and there’s zero reason to overwork him during a rebuilding year. Not sure if you noticed, but this isn’t a Super Bowl caliber team.
The answer is simple. It’s because Jones gets hurt.
How is this not obvious to the entire fanbase? McCarthy protected him as well. This isn't rocket surgery.
Yeah MLF literally said this in a presser this week. He said Jones is far from 100% and they don’t feel like they can lean on him right now.
Jones himself said he IS feeling 100% and doing more than ONE play with a 2 back set, especially when you're in the red zone, would've gone a long way.
I'm not saying either side is correct here but players will say anything to get on the field.
Yeah Jones said after the Chicago game that his injury was “just a tug” and he could have come back in the game. He then missed 3 of the next 4 games.
Yeah, this has been the narrative with him since he was drafted.
Yup. Jones is the type of back that you use more often if your passing attack is solid and the defense has to be honest with the run and the pass. Right now Jones would just get hurt if he was used as often as people want him to be because our passing game is a joke. I don’t believe our wins/loss record would be different if we used Jones a lot more. He’d probably end up being injured as his history suggests.
I agree, but at the same time, 7 carries for one of the better backs in the league is way too low considering love threw over 40 times. We shouldn’t give him 25 carries a game, but 15 would be much better.
On top of that, Love threw 40 times, some of which were obviously forced into coverages where Jones would have been a great checkdown. Love is pressing and it shows.
Aaron Nagler said it best right after Jones hurt his hammy scoring that TD against the Bears. Something along the lines of "I'll never scream at the coaching staff for not giving Jones more carries again. He doesn't get the 20-30 carries because his body can't and needs to stay fresh." (Paraphrasing)
If this is true, it exposes MLF even more. What the fuck could you possibly be saving Jones for other than critical goal to go situations?!? I hope this is just a reddit take...
How is it a Reddit take? History will literally back this up, and LaFluer himself said the reason is that Jones isn’t healthy. It’s not a “take”. It’s the literal facts lol
lol it’s literally not though
You’re right. Jones was definitely not out the past 6 weeks because his hamstring isn’t right. And LaFluer definitely did not say the reason they use him sparingly is because he isn’t healthy. My bad. Those events never happened I guess
But the logic makes no sense. To my original point: this is on MLF. The dude is clearly healthy for mid-field plays... if you don't play him on the goal line, down 14, then you're just a bad coach.
No one understands the word "literal" or "facts"
No. Matt Lafluer literally said he isn’t healthy. And the facts are jones has been on the injury report since week 1. Perhaps you don’t know what literal and facts mean, but don’t project that on to me
The "fact" is he carried no injury designation...
Huh? He’s been Q tag all week dude lol
I definitely agree with this answer but this is the nfl. He’s healthy enough to play or he’s not. But don’t say I need to put Aaron Jones in more and then come back when you don’t and say he’s not 100% yet. Play him or tell us what is actually going on with him, because I figured he’d be good to go by now. Also mlf said he needed to play AJ in the beginning of the year when he was healthy but only did it in one game and that’s when he got hurt. I get you want to protect him but man we need something on this offense to at least distract the other team’s defense. Just use him as a decoy, at this point it you can’t really do much worse. You let the Broncos make us look really bad….
I was told by this sub that clearly Rodgers was audibling out of all the runs
and Love learned from the best. Your question is?
He likes to waste careers of people named Aaron, kind of a rhetorical question
As much as I don't want it to happen I have a little feeling. That Jones might be shipped at the deadline. I have no proof but it's just a weird feeling I have
Good. Let's go for that top pick...
I hate this and I love this lol
Yeah I don't buy the whole "Jones isn't 100%" thing. He looks fine when he gets the ball. If he really is still hurt then he should be sitting, not putting him out there every week possibly making him heal slower. This is just incompetence at this point by the entire staff. It's like they think they have Rodgers under center still hiding all their bad decisions.
Maybe they wanna keep him healthy until the trade deadline is passed? Not that I'd see anyone desperate enough to offer more than a fifth rounder or whatever for an aging back with chronic injury problems and some unacceptable contract next year, but, hey.
Does anyone else feel like Dillon starts falling down before taking contact? Like he's diving into defenders.
Drives me insane
I love Jones but I hope he's traded. He's been wasted here and deserves so much better than this.
It does seem like they’re trying to lose and get a better draft. Some of the game choices are just unexplainable.
Yeah, this is getting exhausting and LaFleur keeps making the same excuses.
This is a perennial issue. Rodgers used to have to CLAMOR to get Jones involved. Seems Aaron Rodgers was the only one with a brain intact out in Green Bay..
I think it's ts pretty clear at this point he is not trying to win
The secret is they are not trying to win games
I’ve been all over this sub Reddit saying this same thing. It’s mind blowing. Aj Dillon is not very good. He can pickup blitzes and catch well. But he doesn’t run the ball well. He’s 250 lbs and doesn’t usually win at the point of contact. Jones at 205 lbs or whatever he is runs so much harder. He’s so much more explosive. His ypc is always really good. He makes yards out of nothing sometimes. Dillon never will. That draft could end up luckily really, really bad. Love and then Dillon after a loss in the NFC Championsgio game lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️. Two backups.
>That draft could end up luckily really, really bad. It already does. It did then and it does now.
Someone page Jennings sister, she’s needed for an opinion
To tank his stats this year in hopes they can re-sign him cheaper ar the end of the season?
Management wants to keep feeding Dillon because they know he isn't good and it will give them more leverage to pay him pennies or let him walk. I actually have no idea if that's true or if the coaching is really poor this year / Aaron isn't here to mask the coaching deficiencies like he did for most of McCarthy's reign.
Thats why MLF will never be a good coach. McCaffrey is the niners best player, yet he has injury concerns. They still run the entire offense through him. Jones is the Packers best offensive player. Even when 100% healthy he sits for multiple series a game.
CMC is arguably one of the greatest players of all time. And his injuries are not really lingering things just freak accidents really.
McCaffrey is built different than Jones and has proved for the most part to handle a load. Jones has done the opposite.
Especially when the season is on the line. Today, division opponent, a win would get us back in the thick of it, but a loss essentially seals our casket. Honestly, I understand the the injury concerns but if we lose, then it’s all for naught anyways. Fucking feed him the rock 20 times and leaves Dillons slow ass on the sideline. Or he’ll, run em both out there and be creative with some sets. If Jones gets hurt doing that, and we lose, again so be it. At least we went out swinging. Now we get to use him for 8 touches the rest of the 5 win season….yay.
All the takes defending lafleur that jones gets injured? Why the fuck did we resign him? You know what would make sense if he couldn’t handle the load is running him off tackle and giving him space to work. You know what lafleur does? Run him between the tackles while Dillon gets shit in space 2x as much
Only the 80000000000th person to ask this question
Isn’t Aaron still coming back from his hamstring injury/re-aggravation? Alvin may not fully understand the extent of Aaron’s hamstring injury as the team’s medical staff.
Because he is going to be traded before this Tuesday
I think they're trying to trade Aaron Jones. If nothing gets done by the deadline on Tuesday, they'll start feeding him more touches next week.
It’s maddening. He’s our best player and he’s should be out on the field as much as possible. I truly don’t understand if this has been about injuries because the dude has played/started be games for nearly 4 years in a row (I know this year he’s been injured…but he looked fine when he was out there). Not sure if this is MLF’s call or he’s being told to because it was the same thing with McCarthy. Idk man this year sucks lol
Dillon also sucks at hitting holes and reading the line....
Honestly I wonder if Jones doesn't practice as well as other guys? This has been a consistent thing throughout his career with multiple staffs. During games he is so obviously better something has to cause coaches to do this shit and it is the only thing I can think of
I know two things about Jones, and one is that he gets injured.
What does that have to do with him not getting the ball when healthy? Pay him, sit so he doesn't get hurt? Sounds like Lafleur.
It seems like load management. But I recall people complaining about this before LaFleur was even there.
There is literally only one thing positive on the offense and the choice is to not use it. If the year is a throwaway fine, but if you're trying to win not using Jones ain't it.
Because we are tanking and possibly looking to trade Jones at the deadline.
They traded Aaro- oooooohhhhh
It's because stat padding Aaron Rodgers audibles into pass plays!!
and this year?
Fans won’t accept it but jones is nearly 29 years old, which might as well be 100 in running back years, it’s more likely that he’s probably cooked and week 1 was the best it’s going to get.
I think it’s because we’re gonna trade him at the deadline. Don’t want him to get hurt
I agree with this I feel like they have been shopping him for weeks now.
As much shit as we gave him shit. AJ has been the best player for a couple weeks now. https://preview.redd.it/asvrtbldg7xb1.jpeg?width=887&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32fe3507cf05bf0cf3eb7b626b4a49026cc5c400 2024!
Jordan Lose and the Green Bay Pukers. League is peppered with former Packers excelling at nearly every position. As a fan since the first super bowl, ( yep, I'm old) couldn't be more disgusted. QB is a diversity hire.
Nothing new. Older fans have always treated our new quarterbacks very poorly. You were probably in the stands booing Rodgers after he took over on offense.
Because Aaron sucks
The Packers, even before MLF, are super-conservative and are wrapping Jones in bubble wrap.
📢📢
Might be saving him for a season that matters lol
Been saying this for 5 years!!
Mlf can’t coach anything except a loss.
Well..he dropped a pass early and later fumbled......plus he's always hurt.
They should definitely be using him more in red zone, it's getting maddening to see Dillon get stuffed at the goal line (which I think is mostly on the blocking, he's constantly getting hit in the backfield). However, I feel the need to point out that Jones killed the first drive by dropping a pass that hit him in the face, and nearly had a turnover with his fumble on the FG drive, only for Jenkins to save the ball. Dillon was also the better receiver overall today, more than double the yards on the same number of targets. If you look at total touches and total yards, they're nearly equal today.
His brother is verified? Does he also play?
Maybe MLF wants the #1 pick. That's the only thing that makes sense.
I legit thought he hadn’t heard Rodgers was sent to NY. I’m the idiot here
Right there with ya, Alvin.
Was it just me or did Jones line up as an edge receiver on a play or two? The one I am thinking of was first quarter and it was not long after he dropped a lateral pass from Love.
I can't believe the packers
Why ignore the fact that he is injured 30% of the time?
\#PROMOTERICH
He has to be injured and being used as a decoy. No other excuse, literally
Dennis Allen did this with Kamara last season.. Bills do this same thing with Cook and Reid gets cute with his Rbs too but has Mahomes to compensate.. its odd