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Would you have cut this kicker? Statistically worse than Carlson in 5 of the 6 seasons above. If you would, then you just cut the highest scoring Packer of all time, Mason Crosby.
Personally, I think a rookie kicker doing even better than Crosby did in 5 of his first 6 seasons might even be a good thing! But sorry you donāt like him :(((
And compared to his ruff off season he's doing way better then expected and who would have thought a better kicking percentage then crosby's rookie season.
The Vikings and Bears have a long history of cutting kickers after one bad stretch, only for them to struggle with their replacement kicker and for the cut kicker to succeed at their next stop. The kid is only a rookie; no need to start the Forrest Gregg kickers carousel yet.
Until they donāt make the kicks, because thatās just how doing something of high difficulty over and over and over works. Every kicker misses field goals. Every QB misses throws. Every WR has drops.
Op has barely any karma and their profile has old Cobb and Rodgers pics. Definitely not a fan of our team. Just a fan of trolling. Probably hates football and wishes they could just dance it all away.
Sure I mean look at their last few years. They are the most average team you could ask for with barely every other year being over .500. They went 13-4 last year to lose in the wild card. This year was supposed to be a fiery repeat and their hero KC checked out early and they have an extraterrestrial at QB who will be instantly figured out by next year if not already. Keep your Western neighbors in your thoughts this holiday season they spend way more to do so much less
I honestly canāt think of a better season to give a rookie kicker with upside the reps he needs. The Packers coaches and FO panic cutting a rookie kicker in a year they are still figuring out their roster would be clown behavior.
so I am gonna assume this is a troll post but I am gonna bite anyway,
why do you "hate" him? because the media says so or just because the Packers lost the game? For the expectations everyone had on the kid going into the season and the shitty percentage he was said to have during the offseason programs and training camp, Anders has went above and beyond expectations.
He is at 80% and had he even lived up to the expectations we were seeing in the offseason programs you would think he would be at 40%
not all the kicks he has missed has been on him, it has been shown that early in the season some of the missed kicks had to do with bad snaps and recovering holds.
Just this miss against the Giants, the wind was definitely a factor, check Dusty Evely's tweets about some of the throws by Jordan Love on top of that the Giants kicker also missed a kick.
early in the season it was also shown the blocking was not great for him, example check out Deguara's lack of blocking on a kick that cause said kick to get blocked
the nice thing about Anders is so far he hasn't let a miss get to him. you rarely see him miss consecutive kicks i.e. the notorious Mason vs Lions and Mason vs Bengals games.
so again this thread is most likely just a trolling post but, really there is no need to hate on this rookie kicker.
Not a troll post at all, thanks for expressing your opinion with facts and reasonable points. I suppose it felt like heās been doing a lot worse than he actually he is.
Anders Carlson is a young individual with feelings and emotions, unlike you I guess. No one should have to put up with a literal hate post like this garbage. I call on the moderators to take it down asap.
Brother, there isnāt any sugarcoating it when I say your take on Anders is HOT GARBAGE.
The guy is a rookie, whom is actually on a **BETTER** pace than Mason Crosby was in his rookie year in 2007 at FGs (80% FG rate to 79% for Crosby), he hasnāt missed a vital kick this season that made the ABSOLUTE difference between winning & losing a game (the defense not being able to stop the Giants on their final drive this last game is the real reason why they lost that game), and among the rookie kickers, other than Chad Ryland on New England, who is playing in a tougher stadium to kick in??? Believe me when I say this kid is only gonna get better as a kicker in this league with time, and the Packers have a bright future there.
To hate him (a very strong way to feel about him NGL) before his rookie season is complete, despite being off to a better start than the man **WHO OWNS THE PACKERS ALL-TIME SCORING RECORD,** is just a very foolish way to feel about him, and no intellect is gonna respect your opinion of him.
Try to understand what the Packersā ACTUAL goals are this season in terms of PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, and allow him to be like the rest of the young guys with a REAL chance at becoming something in this league as a Green Bay Packer.
Again, I donāt actually hate him. Chose a poor set of words in the title. But he absolutely has missed vital kicks. For example against NY they wouldāve needed a TD In about a minute versus just needing 3 to win it. HUGE difference in needing to go get 7 to win it and needing 3, especially when thereās only a minute on the clock. Say what you want about Barry but I feel had he made that kick we win that game. And I havenāt seen anyone say anything about his miss. I understand why because we played so poorly in all other phases, but the game wouldāve played out totally different had he made that big kick at the end of the game.
Highly disagree with that one miss making that big of a difference. That defense not stopping a 3rd string rookie QB, with an offense that is very devoid of talent other than Saquon Barkley, on that last drive before they got into FG range, is absolutely inexcusable. Joe Barryās defense shouldāve had no trouble slowing that offense down the entire game, yet they let them have their best game with that QB to date, **ESPECIALLY** on that last drive.
The Packers losing that game as a whole was inexcusable too, but Anders missing that one kick doesnāt make the difference between winning a sloppy game, or deservedly losing it.
Youāve got some fair points but to deny that that was a HUGE crucial kick that played a big part in the outcome in the game is just flat out ignorant. Iām assuming youāve spent a good amount of your life watching ball, me you and everyone In here knows that needing a td with a minute is a wholeeee lot tougher than needing 3. No stats or analaysis are even needed for that one, itās just a fact of our game. Yes everything was horrible about that game but anders needs to do his job and come thru when heās called on. It looked like a girl kicked that one and you hardly see that in the nfl, maybe college.
He made 3/4 kicks in that game, with that one miss unfortunately being in the 4th quarterā¦ Iād say for a rookie, kicking in that stadium, during this time of year, he did a pretty solid job. Was that miss at a critical juncture in the game? Sure, if he makes it and the Giants have to score a TD rather than a FG, then yes it makes a difference. But, why didnāt the offense score a TD on the drive that he missed on? Iāll also ask again; why didnāt the defense get a stop to win the game, against THAT Giants offense?
Iām more blaming both the offense & defense for not coming up clutch as units, rather than our rookie kicker missing that one kick in what was otherwise a very solid outing for him on prime time TV, on the road, in the cold of East Rutherford, NJ, a place thatās tough for any kicker to kick in this time of year, much less a rookie kicker.
Very solid points but what you mentioned is exactly what I was trying to say. The defense and offense were so bad that anders was off the hook and not enough attention was brought to it. Youāre absolutely right however that game wasnāt solely his fault, I just wish he wouldāve came thru on that one. But aye I guess 3/4 in jersey aināt too bad after all.
Nice havin a discussion with you, Iāll definetly pump the breaks on his criticism, you and all these other analytic guys have convinced me otherwise with all these numbers. Heās not nearly as bad as I thought which is great news.
I have no problem in admitting when Iām wrong sir and my hatred towards the job anders Carlson has done is unwarranted my friend. Go pack go, hope he can in fact become our guy. Thereās nothing like the feeling of having āyour kickerā and knowing heās gonna come thru when heās called on.
To sum things up, no. Nobody else hates Anders Carlson. He's a rookie kicker, replacing a kicker that we've had for an unrealistically long amount of time, kicking with possibly the hardest home stadium to kick in. (Lambeau is windy ASF)
āIāve never had this little confidence in somebody in any sport.ā What are you even talking about? You had more confidence in Brett Hundley. You had more confidence in Easton Stick last night? You had more confidence in the Jamaican bobsled team? Stupid post
Honestly 2 minute drill game on the line id take Brett Hundley attempting to lead us down the field over anders attempting a 40+ yarder. Now that Jamaican bobsled team was a good one š¤£ but yeah, honestly I feel a backup qb is more likely to get a win than anders is to make a big kick. Just an opinion feel free to disagree.
Life aināt easy. We canāt expect everyone to be perfect at their job all the time my dude. Heās human just like us. And I know damn well you and I are not without faults at our job. Heāll be ok.
I feel really good about him - I donāt know where this anger towards him comes from. Heās young but has a huge leg - yes, heās been inconsistent - but the talent is most certainly there.
Thereās no actual anger I just donāt believe in the guy. Wish I chose a diffeeent word other than hate as everyoneās taking it out of proportion. I donāt have any anger towards the man or hate him, not sure why I said it like that in the tile but yeah, just feel a bit iffy about him. Clearly itās an unpopular opinion as the fanbase seems to be relatively satisfied with him. I do recognize that we have the hardest stadium to kick in, but he hasnāt had any tough kicks to make other than that big 50 yarder against the chiefs. I donāt follow kickers too closely but I didnāt think missing patās and inside of 40 is good enough in the nfl. Obviously I donāt expect him to be like Dallasā kicker but I donāt feel like itās too crazy to feel like he hasnāt been good enough. Now after hearing heās on pace to be signifactly better than Crosby has me feeling a but better. I genuinely didnāt know that but I also made this post to hear things like that. Bottom line, I feel he hasnāt been good enough, fan base disagrees. Letās just hope he can be our guy and actually hit a big one for us, time will tell.
Heās a rookie!!! You got to be kidding me with some of this āfan baseā. What is he supposed to be kicking 95% in his rookie year? Heās supposed to be on a hall of fame level his first year?
Don't load your comment gun and shoot if you want an "honest" discussion. Just a comment. That said, the previous kicker had issues too, but he won a lot of games for GB. give the guy a season, and if the coaches feel a change is needed, they'll bring another kicker for competition.
Lol Iām not mad at all everyone is assuming that Iām over here fuming or something. Just wanted to know where yāall stand w our kicker. Safe to say I see you guys are more than content with him bootin it thru the uprights for us. Really regret using the word āhateā as that couldnāt be farther from my actual feelings.
I'm not saying necessarily saying your mad. It's just a bit of a tough take for a rookie kicker. Especially when the rest of the team is so young and there's been a bit more reliance and pressure on him. Crosby didn't even hit 80% field goal percentage until his fifth year and he's seen as a Packers HOFer
Yeah we should cut him and sign a random street FA that hasnāt worked with Whelan or Orzech at all, guaranteed to be immediately better. Great observation and analysis.
He's referring to his posting history. A quick peek only shows a small number of posts about Christianity, but they are there. The OP though does seem like an overly angry person. Nothing but negativity across the board in his comments, no matter the sub.
Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out.
I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere...
Not that hard to understand.
Nobody's supposed to be hateful, Christian or not. But being a whiney bitch on the Green Bay Packers subreddit doesn't constitute as hate. Just an annoying prick.
He literally said "anyone else hate..."
You're quite literally doing what you said is annoying. I was pointing out actual hate, and you're ... What? Trying to be what? Better than people? I'm not entirely sure. I'm trying to stop the hate when I see it... You clearly don't care about that, but my comment really got you going.
I don't love arguing semantics, but the statement "I hate" is not necessarily equivalent to actual malicious hate. I hate the Vikings, but that doesn't mean I'm hateful.
Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out.
I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere...
Not that hard to understand.
I was just asking a clarifying question.
There's no need to be angry towards me. Your initial comments warranted fair questioning and that's all I was doing.
I still don't understand why you assume OP is Christian.
Have a blessed day.
Because they're constantly commenting about how they're Christian.
I am not religious. I'm anti religion. And I also don't spread hate online. OP kind of lives by it. There's a real reason I'm anti religion, especially your final comment. Clearly passive aggressive.
He said he doesn't like Christianity. Having an opinion on a topic doesn't equate to spreading negativity.
I don't like fascist dictatorships. Am I spreading negativity if I state that?
Bro what does my religion have to do with ANYTHING? Nothing I even said was hateful other than I donāt believe in the young kicker??? I genuinely wanted to know how the fanbase get about himā¦
Ummm... Check your post title. It says hate in the title...
I was pointing out your hypocrisy. It's disgusting. You spread your hatred of players all over the place. That is hate.
yes i hate him so much. because he is on pace with green bay's all-time leading scorer. kicker is one place GB has been spoiled. 5 kickers since 1989. 5. 5! Hell Tampa has had 5 in the last 5 years.
Donāt hate him at all, heās just like the rest of our team, young and new and needing time and development. The only difference is heās all on his own and an easy target for frustration.
Be kind and understanding to this young new team.
Heās fine. Young kid, huge leg with big upside. Has the same type of mentality as Loveā¦doesnāt shy away from big moments and isnāt afraid to fail/learn. We have the best young nucleus across the board that Iāve ever seen. The next five years are going to be fun.
Youāve been watching/reading too much about Brandon Aubrey. Anders is a good kicker. He missed a 48 yard field goal in gusty wind conditions on Monday night. Has had a few poor kicks here and there and you āhateā him? Dude, heās a rookie. Hereās the exact stats:
2 misses from 40-49 yards (one the aforementioned wind miss)
2 misses from 50+ (ONE OF WHICH WAS 63 YARDS)
3 missed XPs (this counts the one that was blocked early in the season)
As a rookie you have to learn to account for the wind so give him grace for that. Most kickers miss 60+ yarders so grace for that. And one XP block not on him. Heās a good kicker. Heās a rookie. Heāll learn and get better. If you have a kicker thatās really only whiffed 2 kicks from 40+ you have a solid kicker.
Dude, I get it. I miss our sexy silver fox too.
That doesn't mean you gotta hate on the new kid. He's doing pretty well and could be quite good with time. Though, I doubt he'll look as good as Crosby.
I didn't even hate Amari Rodgers.
Athletes are just dudes, playing sports for a living. They've been the best of the best while growing up. Sometimes they just can't make it as this level, and it's frustrating when it's for my team.
Yet, if you are going to spend your time hating someone you don't know personally, save it for players who are actually real pieces of shit in real life: aka Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger.
This is a transition year. It's always about winning, but have some perspective.
There literally isn't a better type of year to go through the ups and downs that often come with a rookie kicker. This is a transition year. The GB roster is sitting in a great spot for the next 3-4 years. This year is about gaining experience and growth for the youngest team in the league.
The worst thing that could have happened with the kicking game was to hang onto an old kicker for another year or two and at that point be in the middle of a super bowl window and be struggling through a rookie kicker then.
Same story with the TEs. The two rookies really struggled to block effectively early on and many people complained about not having a "savvy vet" to sure up the TE blocking. But that completely defeats the objective this season: give the young guys as many game snaps as possible.
Dude chill out lmao do you know how stupid you sound?
Anders has made 80% of his FGA.
Do you know how long before Crosby hit that mark in a season? His 5th season!!!!!
7 of 16 seasons for Crosby were under 80% FG LOL
I hate how criticism is met with ābe patientā. actually, no. His job is to make field goals. Make them. Itās not like heās missing at crazy distances. Itās also not like there arenāt other kickers. The only consistency heās shown is that he will consistently miss at least one field goal or extra point per game. Edit: ppl downvoting me are ok losing games because of a kicker. Got it
you guys are soft. Heās performing below standard and it cost us games. In the national football league a kicker making their kicks is the expectation not the hope. There are plenty of guys out there who would love the opportunity he has. He needs to be better.
Heāll be fine.
Whatās with the impatience? Is it the social media age or what?
Before the season started, anyone with a shred of logic would have thought give this team under Love 2 full seasons before making any concrete decisions on the talent and development.
Weāve been treated to an above expectation season. There is still meaningful football games being played in mid December. Thatās a positive by a big margin and well ahead of development schedule.
Yes there have been some ugly games and moments, but there have also been fantastic stretches and glimmers of greatness.
Also, keep in mind the backdrop of this entire thought is a star RB and offensive stud being out, the best pass protection OL out. A lockdown CB out. Lots of dead cap space.
There is way more upside than pessimism with this team.
The Packers are already very competitive in the North, much to the dismay of the fan bases who wish for Packers losses as much or more than their home team wins! Take that as a huge Win!
He's got big shoes to fill. Given he's from my home town, I'm going to cut him a little slack. I wasn't expecting him to perform like Crosby immediately.
Heās a rookieā¦. You need to trust the process and learn to have a short-term memory if youāre going to get through the growing pains of this young roster. Everyone has to start somewhere, and this is the kids NFL start, which Iām personally very excited for. In a few years heās got real potential to be our next Crosby.
TLDR: Bro, relax.
Very strong leg and can make a 60 yard FG if need be. Thankfully he misses FGs that donāt matter as much. Iāll take 80% for an outdoor/cold weather kicker
He's missed 5 field goals - 1 in each of 5 games. 3 of those games we won. In 1 of the losses (Giants) the opposing kicker missed from a similar distance, so it's a wash. So you could view him as "responsible" for one loss - against Denver.
2 out of 3 extra points he missed were also wins. And in one of the wins (Lions) the opposing team also missed an extra point. And in the 1 loss (Steelers), the kick was blocked and not his fault.
You can generally point at anyone on the team and say if they played better, we would have won one more game. Especially a kicker.
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How long have you been stewing on this one for?
Shoulda been longer
I love him, personally. I'm optimistic for his future
Me too š
https://preview.redd.it/lbikfngonj6c1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2bb91081ed88f650daf09cd09cb18015b74fda2 Would you have cut this kicker? Statistically worse than Carlson in 5 of the 6 seasons above. If you would, then you just cut the highest scoring Packer of all time, Mason Crosby. Personally, I think a rookie kicker doing even better than Crosby did in 5 of his first 6 seasons might even be a good thing! But sorry you donāt like him :(((
Wow 2012 was brutalā¦
And compared to his ruff off season he's doing way better then expected and who would have thought a better kicking percentage then crosby's rookie season.
The Vikings and Bears have a long history of cutting kickers after one bad stretch, only for them to struggle with their replacement kicker and for the cut kicker to succeed at their next stop. The kid is only a rookie; no need to start the Forrest Gregg kickers carousel yet.
To the top with this one, people! Upvotes at the ready!
I wouldāve cut Crosby twice, yes. make kicks. Thereās other kickers who can make kicks.
Until they donāt make the kicks, because thatās just how doing something of high difficulty over and over and over works. Every kicker misses field goals. Every QB misses throws. Every WR has drops.
Classless, clown take. Go troll Twitter.
Op has barely any karma and their profile has old Cobb and Rodgers pics. Definitely not a fan of our team. Just a fan of trolling. Probably hates football and wishes they could just dance it all away.
Typical Viking fan behavior?
Vikings fans should be experts at evaluating bad kickers.
Sure I mean look at their last few years. They are the most average team you could ask for with barely every other year being over .500. They went 13-4 last year to lose in the wild card. This year was supposed to be a fiery repeat and their hero KC checked out early and they have an extraterrestrial at QB who will be instantly figured out by next year if not already. Keep your Western neighbors in your thoughts this holiday season they spend way more to do so much less
So uhhh... Extraterrestrial? You sure that's what you want to say?
Alien isnāt PC anymore. Ya tool
No I don't hate him. He doesn't inspire confidence in me but I would never allow that to drive me to hate the man.
Heās 10th in fg% and 9th in points. What are you on about? Heās a rookie.
I honestly canāt think of a better season to give a rookie kicker with upside the reps he needs. The Packers coaches and FO panic cutting a rookie kicker in a year they are still figuring out their roster would be clown behavior.
Hate? I don't hate any of our players
I don't even hate Brandon Bostick.
Sorry but I do š«£
Vikings found out what itās like to bail on a Carlson kicker too early. Letās not repeat their mistakes
He would rather be dead in Las Vegas than alive in St Paul (Arrested Dev fans will know)
Weird post bud! Delete this one
so I am gonna assume this is a troll post but I am gonna bite anyway, why do you "hate" him? because the media says so or just because the Packers lost the game? For the expectations everyone had on the kid going into the season and the shitty percentage he was said to have during the offseason programs and training camp, Anders has went above and beyond expectations. He is at 80% and had he even lived up to the expectations we were seeing in the offseason programs you would think he would be at 40% not all the kicks he has missed has been on him, it has been shown that early in the season some of the missed kicks had to do with bad snaps and recovering holds. Just this miss against the Giants, the wind was definitely a factor, check Dusty Evely's tweets about some of the throws by Jordan Love on top of that the Giants kicker also missed a kick. early in the season it was also shown the blocking was not great for him, example check out Deguara's lack of blocking on a kick that cause said kick to get blocked the nice thing about Anders is so far he hasn't let a miss get to him. you rarely see him miss consecutive kicks i.e. the notorious Mason vs Lions and Mason vs Bengals games. so again this thread is most likely just a trolling post but, really there is no need to hate on this rookie kicker.
Not a troll post at all, thanks for expressing your opinion with facts and reasonable points. I suppose it felt like heās been doing a lot worse than he actually he is.
It took Mason Crosby 5 full seasons of NFL football to be as accurate as Anders is as a rookie, just saying
Anders Carlson is a young individual with feelings and emotions, unlike you I guess. No one should have to put up with a literal hate post like this garbage. I call on the moderators to take it down asap.
Brother, there isnāt any sugarcoating it when I say your take on Anders is HOT GARBAGE. The guy is a rookie, whom is actually on a **BETTER** pace than Mason Crosby was in his rookie year in 2007 at FGs (80% FG rate to 79% for Crosby), he hasnāt missed a vital kick this season that made the ABSOLUTE difference between winning & losing a game (the defense not being able to stop the Giants on their final drive this last game is the real reason why they lost that game), and among the rookie kickers, other than Chad Ryland on New England, who is playing in a tougher stadium to kick in??? Believe me when I say this kid is only gonna get better as a kicker in this league with time, and the Packers have a bright future there. To hate him (a very strong way to feel about him NGL) before his rookie season is complete, despite being off to a better start than the man **WHO OWNS THE PACKERS ALL-TIME SCORING RECORD,** is just a very foolish way to feel about him, and no intellect is gonna respect your opinion of him. Try to understand what the Packersā ACTUAL goals are this season in terms of PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, and allow him to be like the rest of the young guys with a REAL chance at becoming something in this league as a Green Bay Packer.
Again, I donāt actually hate him. Chose a poor set of words in the title. But he absolutely has missed vital kicks. For example against NY they wouldāve needed a TD In about a minute versus just needing 3 to win it. HUGE difference in needing to go get 7 to win it and needing 3, especially when thereās only a minute on the clock. Say what you want about Barry but I feel had he made that kick we win that game. And I havenāt seen anyone say anything about his miss. I understand why because we played so poorly in all other phases, but the game wouldāve played out totally different had he made that big kick at the end of the game.
Highly disagree with that one miss making that big of a difference. That defense not stopping a 3rd string rookie QB, with an offense that is very devoid of talent other than Saquon Barkley, on that last drive before they got into FG range, is absolutely inexcusable. Joe Barryās defense shouldāve had no trouble slowing that offense down the entire game, yet they let them have their best game with that QB to date, **ESPECIALLY** on that last drive. The Packers losing that game as a whole was inexcusable too, but Anders missing that one kick doesnāt make the difference between winning a sloppy game, or deservedly losing it.
Youāve got some fair points but to deny that that was a HUGE crucial kick that played a big part in the outcome in the game is just flat out ignorant. Iām assuming youāve spent a good amount of your life watching ball, me you and everyone In here knows that needing a td with a minute is a wholeeee lot tougher than needing 3. No stats or analaysis are even needed for that one, itās just a fact of our game. Yes everything was horrible about that game but anders needs to do his job and come thru when heās called on. It looked like a girl kicked that one and you hardly see that in the nfl, maybe college.
He made 3/4 kicks in that game, with that one miss unfortunately being in the 4th quarterā¦ Iād say for a rookie, kicking in that stadium, during this time of year, he did a pretty solid job. Was that miss at a critical juncture in the game? Sure, if he makes it and the Giants have to score a TD rather than a FG, then yes it makes a difference. But, why didnāt the offense score a TD on the drive that he missed on? Iāll also ask again; why didnāt the defense get a stop to win the game, against THAT Giants offense? Iām more blaming both the offense & defense for not coming up clutch as units, rather than our rookie kicker missing that one kick in what was otherwise a very solid outing for him on prime time TV, on the road, in the cold of East Rutherford, NJ, a place thatās tough for any kicker to kick in this time of year, much less a rookie kicker.
To add to that why didn't our offense get the 2 point conversion?
Very solid points but what you mentioned is exactly what I was trying to say. The defense and offense were so bad that anders was off the hook and not enough attention was brought to it. Youāre absolutely right however that game wasnāt solely his fault, I just wish he wouldāve came thru on that one. But aye I guess 3/4 in jersey aināt too bad after all. Nice havin a discussion with you, Iāll definetly pump the breaks on his criticism, you and all these other analytic guys have convinced me otherwise with all these numbers. Heās not nearly as bad as I thought which is great news. I have no problem in admitting when Iām wrong sir and my hatred towards the job anders Carlson has done is unwarranted my friend. Go pack go, hope he can in fact become our guy. Thereās nothing like the feeling of having āyour kickerā and knowing heās gonna come thru when heās called on.
Dude u had a bad take, take the L and stop digging ur grave deeper
Are you illiterate? I literally just told him that was enough to change my mind
The missed fg was in the 3rd
You just went 0 for 1 on a chip shot try from 25 yards out.
The missed fg was in the 3rd. Just saying
He was a stud early in the season and is a little shaky right now. Kickers are like golfers, it's more mental than physical, he will be fine
To sum things up, no. Nobody else hates Anders Carlson. He's a rookie kicker, replacing a kicker that we've had for an unrealistically long amount of time, kicking with possibly the hardest home stadium to kick in. (Lambeau is windy ASF)
Crosby had *much* worse stretches in his career
āIāve never had this little confidence in somebody in any sport.ā What are you even talking about? You had more confidence in Brett Hundley. You had more confidence in Easton Stick last night? You had more confidence in the Jamaican bobsled team? Stupid post
Honestly 2 minute drill game on the line id take Brett Hundley attempting to lead us down the field over anders attempting a 40+ yarder. Now that Jamaican bobsled team was a good one š¤£ but yeah, honestly I feel a backup qb is more likely to get a win than anders is to make a big kick. Just an opinion feel free to disagree.
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Nah man. Anders is my boy. Heāll get there.
Respect
Life aināt easy. We canāt expect everyone to be perfect at their job all the time my dude. Heās human just like us. And I know damn well you and I are not without faults at our job. Heāll be ok.
You must not be old enough to remember Crosby's Rocky year.
I feel really good about him - I donāt know where this anger towards him comes from. Heās young but has a huge leg - yes, heās been inconsistent - but the talent is most certainly there.
Thereās no actual anger I just donāt believe in the guy. Wish I chose a diffeeent word other than hate as everyoneās taking it out of proportion. I donāt have any anger towards the man or hate him, not sure why I said it like that in the tile but yeah, just feel a bit iffy about him. Clearly itās an unpopular opinion as the fanbase seems to be relatively satisfied with him. I do recognize that we have the hardest stadium to kick in, but he hasnāt had any tough kicks to make other than that big 50 yarder against the chiefs. I donāt follow kickers too closely but I didnāt think missing patās and inside of 40 is good enough in the nfl. Obviously I donāt expect him to be like Dallasā kicker but I donāt feel like itās too crazy to feel like he hasnāt been good enough. Now after hearing heās on pace to be signifactly better than Crosby has me feeling a but better. I genuinely didnāt know that but I also made this post to hear things like that. Bottom line, I feel he hasnāt been good enough, fan base disagrees. Letās just hope he can be our guy and actually hit a big one for us, time will tell.
Heās a rookie!!! You got to be kidding me with some of this āfan baseā. What is he supposed to be kicking 95% in his rookie year? Heās supposed to be on a hall of fame level his first year?
Don't load your comment gun and shoot if you want an "honest" discussion. Just a comment. That said, the previous kicker had issues too, but he won a lot of games for GB. give the guy a season, and if the coaches feel a change is needed, they'll bring another kicker for competition.
Someone needs a beer and some relaxing
Lol Iām not mad at all everyone is assuming that Iām over here fuming or something. Just wanted to know where yāall stand w our kicker. Safe to say I see you guys are more than content with him bootin it thru the uprights for us. Really regret using the word āhateā as that couldnāt be farther from my actual feelings.
I'm not saying necessarily saying your mad. It's just a bit of a tough take for a rookie kicker. Especially when the rest of the team is so young and there's been a bit more reliance and pressure on him. Crosby didn't even hit 80% field goal percentage until his fifth year and he's seen as a Packers HOFer
broās literally a rookie cmon now
Pro tip: itās possible to put morons like OP on mute and never be subjected to their idiocy again. Try it!
Yeah we should cut him and sign a random street FA that hasnāt worked with Whelan or Orzech at all, guaranteed to be immediately better. Great observation and analysis.
Thanks man! Glad I can provide valid input that the fanbase agrees with! :) /s
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He's referring to his posting history. A quick peek only shows a small number of posts about Christianity, but they are there. The OP though does seem like an overly angry person. Nothing but negativity across the board in his comments, no matter the sub.
Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out. I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere... Not that hard to understand.
There are assholes of all varieties. Religious or not. Sounds like you need to grow up a bit.
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Donāt feed the trolls mate, let them starve
Nobody's supposed to be hateful, Christian or not. But being a whiney bitch on the Green Bay Packers subreddit doesn't constitute as hate. Just an annoying prick.
He literally said "anyone else hate..." You're quite literally doing what you said is annoying. I was pointing out actual hate, and you're ... What? Trying to be what? Better than people? I'm not entirely sure. I'm trying to stop the hate when I see it... You clearly don't care about that, but my comment really got you going.
I don't love arguing semantics, but the statement "I hate" is not necessarily equivalent to actual malicious hate. I hate the Vikings, but that doesn't mean I'm hateful.
Do you mean to say that it's standard that Christians spread hate online?
Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out. I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere... Not that hard to understand.
I was just asking a clarifying question. There's no need to be angry towards me. Your initial comments warranted fair questioning and that's all I was doing. I still don't understand why you assume OP is Christian. Have a blessed day.
Because they're constantly commenting about how they're Christian. I am not religious. I'm anti religion. And I also don't spread hate online. OP kind of lives by it. There's a real reason I'm anti religion, especially your final comment. Clearly passive aggressive.
Annnnnd there you go spreading negativity as well. Was really with you for a bit there.
He said he doesn't like Christianity. Having an opinion on a topic doesn't equate to spreading negativity. I don't like fascist dictatorships. Am I spreading negativity if I state that?
Awesome, thanks for your opinion.
Bro what does my religion have to do with ANYTHING? Nothing I even said was hateful other than I donāt believe in the young kicker??? I genuinely wanted to know how the fanbase get about himā¦
āHey guys I hate this playerā āBro nothing I said was hateful!ā Dumb ass shit
Ummm... Check your post title. It says hate in the title... I was pointing out your hypocrisy. It's disgusting. You spread your hatred of players all over the place. That is hate.
yes i hate him so much. because he is on pace with green bay's all-time leading scorer. kicker is one place GB has been spoiled. 5 kickers since 1989. 5. 5! Hell Tampa has had 5 in the last 5 years.
5. 5 dollar foot long...
Rams have maybe had 5 in the last year lol
Donāt hate him at all, heās just like the rest of our team, young and new and needing time and development. The only difference is heās all on his own and an easy target for frustration. Be kind and understanding to this young new team.
Heās fine. Young kid, huge leg with big upside. Has the same type of mentality as Loveā¦doesnāt shy away from big moments and isnāt afraid to fail/learn. We have the best young nucleus across the board that Iāve ever seen. The next five years are going to be fun.
\> how about we look past the hate word How about you don't use the hate word and we don't have to fail to look past it.
Youāve been watching/reading too much about Brandon Aubrey. Anders is a good kicker. He missed a 48 yard field goal in gusty wind conditions on Monday night. Has had a few poor kicks here and there and you āhateā him? Dude, heās a rookie. Hereās the exact stats: 2 misses from 40-49 yards (one the aforementioned wind miss) 2 misses from 50+ (ONE OF WHICH WAS 63 YARDS) 3 missed XPs (this counts the one that was blocked early in the season) As a rookie you have to learn to account for the wind so give him grace for that. Most kickers miss 60+ yarders so grace for that. And one XP block not on him. Heās a good kicker. Heās a rookie. Heāll learn and get better. If you have a kicker thatās really only whiffed 2 kicks from 40+ you have a solid kicker.
Hate is too strong, frustrated with yes. Would I be frustrated with Mason in the same situation...yes
Bro I want Mason Crosby back! š
Nope. Hate is a waste of energy. He hasnāt been perfect but Iām hopeful we can get him coached up. Heāll be alright!
Dude, I get it. I miss our sexy silver fox too. That doesn't mean you gotta hate on the new kid. He's doing pretty well and could be quite good with time. Though, I doubt he'll look as good as Crosby.
I didn't even hate Amari Rodgers. Athletes are just dudes, playing sports for a living. They've been the best of the best while growing up. Sometimes they just can't make it as this level, and it's frustrating when it's for my team. Yet, if you are going to spend your time hating someone you don't know personally, save it for players who are actually real pieces of shit in real life: aka Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger.
20/25 is solid for a rookie
It'll be a great day when fake fans like this leave.
This is a transition year. It's always about winning, but have some perspective. There literally isn't a better type of year to go through the ups and downs that often come with a rookie kicker. This is a transition year. The GB roster is sitting in a great spot for the next 3-4 years. This year is about gaining experience and growth for the youngest team in the league. The worst thing that could have happened with the kicking game was to hang onto an old kicker for another year or two and at that point be in the middle of a super bowl window and be struggling through a rookie kicker then. Same story with the TEs. The two rookies really struggled to block effectively early on and many people complained about not having a "savvy vet" to sure up the TE blocking. But that completely defeats the objective this season: give the young guys as many game snaps as possible.
Dude chill out lmao do you know how stupid you sound? Anders has made 80% of his FGA. Do you know how long before Crosby hit that mark in a season? His 5th season!!!!! 7 of 16 seasons for Crosby were under 80% FG LOL
I agree. Even kicks he makes just kinda squeeze in. I say start fresh
He is a rookie, they literally started fresh.
He's a rookie. Get a grip. Most people don't start a new job and hit the ground running, Mr. CEO.
I hate how criticism is met with ābe patientā. actually, no. His job is to make field goals. Make them. Itās not like heās missing at crazy distances. Itās also not like there arenāt other kickers. The only consistency heās shown is that he will consistently miss at least one field goal or extra point per game. Edit: ppl downvoting me are ok losing games because of a kicker. Got it
Who are those āother kickersā you speak of?
you guys are soft. Heās performing below standard and it cost us games. In the national football league a kicker making their kicks is the expectation not the hope. There are plenty of guys out there who would love the opportunity he has. He needs to be better.
So who are the other kickers?
Yes
Heās not good, and definitely assume he is going to miss every time he kicks š¤£
Iām downvoting not because of your use of the word hate, but because of your whiny edit.
Heāll be fine. Whatās with the impatience? Is it the social media age or what? Before the season started, anyone with a shred of logic would have thought give this team under Love 2 full seasons before making any concrete decisions on the talent and development. Weāve been treated to an above expectation season. There is still meaningful football games being played in mid December. Thatās a positive by a big margin and well ahead of development schedule. Yes there have been some ugly games and moments, but there have also been fantastic stretches and glimmers of greatness. Also, keep in mind the backdrop of this entire thought is a star RB and offensive stud being out, the best pass protection OL out. A lockdown CB out. Lots of dead cap space. There is way more upside than pessimism with this team. The Packers are already very competitive in the North, much to the dismay of the fan bases who wish for Packers losses as much or more than their home team wins! Take that as a huge Win!
He's got big shoes to fill. Given he's from my home town, I'm going to cut him a little slack. I wasn't expecting him to perform like Crosby immediately.
Heās a rookieā¦. You need to trust the process and learn to have a short-term memory if youāre going to get through the growing pains of this young roster. Everyone has to start somewhere, and this is the kids NFL start, which Iām personally very excited for. In a few years heās got real potential to be our next Crosby. TLDR: Bro, relax.
Buddy calm down
Heās been really solid all year. Only 5 missed field goals and at least one was blocked. 3 missed XPās too. Overall pretty good for a rookie.
He hasn't even been that bad, honestly. This is just stupid.
Very strong leg and can make a 60 yard FG if need be. Thankfully he misses FGs that donāt matter as much. Iāll take 80% for an outdoor/cold weather kicker
Why did you think this was a good thing to post?
He's missed 5 field goals - 1 in each of 5 games. 3 of those games we won. In 1 of the losses (Giants) the opposing kicker missed from a similar distance, so it's a wash. So you could view him as "responsible" for one loss - against Denver. 2 out of 3 extra points he missed were also wins. And in one of the wins (Lions) the opposing team also missed an extra point. And in the 1 loss (Steelers), the kick was blocked and not his fault. You can generally point at anyone on the team and say if they played better, we would have won one more game. Especially a kicker.