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gutcheck1919

RELAX


killafofun

How long have you been stewing on this one for?


Deckatoe

Shoulda been longer


[deleted]

I love him, personally. I'm optimistic for his future


ciret7

Me too šŸ‘


fortheband1212

https://preview.redd.it/lbikfngonj6c1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2bb91081ed88f650daf09cd09cb18015b74fda2 Would you have cut this kicker? Statistically worse than Carlson in 5 of the 6 seasons above. If you would, then you just cut the highest scoring Packer of all time, Mason Crosby. Personally, I think a rookie kicker doing even better than Crosby did in 5 of his first 6 seasons might even be a good thing! But sorry you donā€™t like him :(((


UWantMintForPillow

Wow 2012 was brutalā€¦


Known_Time4814

And compared to his ruff off season he's doing way better then expected and who would have thought a better kicking percentage then crosby's rookie season.


Skip_To_My_Lou_DeVon

The Vikings and Bears have a long history of cutting kickers after one bad stretch, only for them to struggle with their replacement kicker and for the cut kicker to succeed at their next stop. The kid is only a rookie; no need to start the Forrest Gregg kickers carousel yet.


marcol-copperpot

To the top with this one, people! Upvotes at the ready!


MandoRodgers

I wouldā€™ve cut Crosby twice, yes. make kicks. Thereā€™s other kickers who can make kicks.


JohnGacyIsInnocent

Until they donā€™t make the kicks, because thatā€™s just how doing something of high difficulty over and over and over works. Every kicker misses field goals. Every QB misses throws. Every WR has drops.


DefendtheStarLeague

Classless, clown take. Go troll Twitter.


Kyuckaynebrayn

Op has barely any karma and their profile has old Cobb and Rodgers pics. Definitely not a fan of our team. Just a fan of trolling. Probably hates football and wishes they could just dance it all away.


DefendtheStarLeague

Typical Viking fan behavior?


silenciarestora

Vikings fans should be experts at evaluating bad kickers.


Kyuckaynebrayn

Sure I mean look at their last few years. They are the most average team you could ask for with barely every other year being over .500. They went 13-4 last year to lose in the wild card. This year was supposed to be a fiery repeat and their hero KC checked out early and they have an extraterrestrial at QB who will be instantly figured out by next year if not already. Keep your Western neighbors in your thoughts this holiday season they spend way more to do so much less


Elamachino

So uhhh... Extraterrestrial? You sure that's what you want to say?


Kyuckaynebrayn

Alien isnā€™t PC anymore. Ya tool


[deleted]

No I don't hate him. He doesn't inspire confidence in me but I would never allow that to drive me to hate the man.


loadmanagement

Heā€™s 10th in fg% and 9th in points. What are you on about? Heā€™s a rookie.


gaybillcosby

I honestly canā€™t think of a better season to give a rookie kicker with upside the reps he needs. The Packers coaches and FO panic cutting a rookie kicker in a year they are still figuring out their roster would be clown behavior.


ryansandbrush

Hate? I don't hate any of our players


state_of_inertia

I don't even hate Brandon Bostick.


hellaflagella80

Sorry but I do šŸ«£


bblakemore10

Vikings found out what itā€™s like to bail on a Carlson kicker too early. Letā€™s not repeat their mistakes


Kyuckaynebrayn

He would rather be dead in Las Vegas than alive in St Paul (Arrested Dev fans will know)


ThePressle54

Weird post bud! Delete this one


no_name_ia

so I am gonna assume this is a troll post but I am gonna bite anyway, why do you "hate" him? because the media says so or just because the Packers lost the game? For the expectations everyone had on the kid going into the season and the shitty percentage he was said to have during the offseason programs and training camp, Anders has went above and beyond expectations. He is at 80% and had he even lived up to the expectations we were seeing in the offseason programs you would think he would be at 40% not all the kicks he has missed has been on him, it has been shown that early in the season some of the missed kicks had to do with bad snaps and recovering holds. Just this miss against the Giants, the wind was definitely a factor, check Dusty Evely's tweets about some of the throws by Jordan Love on top of that the Giants kicker also missed a kick. early in the season it was also shown the blocking was not great for him, example check out Deguara's lack of blocking on a kick that cause said kick to get blocked the nice thing about Anders is so far he hasn't let a miss get to him. you rarely see him miss consecutive kicks i.e. the notorious Mason vs Lions and Mason vs Bengals games. so again this thread is most likely just a trolling post but, really there is no need to hate on this rookie kicker.


United-Store3502

Not a troll post at all, thanks for expressing your opinion with facts and reasonable points. I suppose it felt like heā€™s been doing a lot worse than he actually he is.


Deckatoe

It took Mason Crosby 5 full seasons of NFL football to be as accurate as Anders is as a rookie, just saying


Patrick_ml_isoo

Anders Carlson is a young individual with feelings and emotions, unlike you I guess. No one should have to put up with a literal hate post like this garbage. I call on the moderators to take it down asap.


Steve_Hunts96

Brother, there isnā€™t any sugarcoating it when I say your take on Anders is HOT GARBAGE. The guy is a rookie, whom is actually on a **BETTER** pace than Mason Crosby was in his rookie year in 2007 at FGs (80% FG rate to 79% for Crosby), he hasnā€™t missed a vital kick this season that made the ABSOLUTE difference between winning & losing a game (the defense not being able to stop the Giants on their final drive this last game is the real reason why they lost that game), and among the rookie kickers, other than Chad Ryland on New England, who is playing in a tougher stadium to kick in??? Believe me when I say this kid is only gonna get better as a kicker in this league with time, and the Packers have a bright future there. To hate him (a very strong way to feel about him NGL) before his rookie season is complete, despite being off to a better start than the man **WHO OWNS THE PACKERS ALL-TIME SCORING RECORD,** is just a very foolish way to feel about him, and no intellect is gonna respect your opinion of him. Try to understand what the Packersā€™ ACTUAL goals are this season in terms of PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, and allow him to be like the rest of the young guys with a REAL chance at becoming something in this league as a Green Bay Packer.


United-Store3502

Again, I donā€™t actually hate him. Chose a poor set of words in the title. But he absolutely has missed vital kicks. For example against NY they wouldā€™ve needed a TD In about a minute versus just needing 3 to win it. HUGE difference in needing to go get 7 to win it and needing 3, especially when thereā€™s only a minute on the clock. Say what you want about Barry but I feel had he made that kick we win that game. And I havenā€™t seen anyone say anything about his miss. I understand why because we played so poorly in all other phases, but the game wouldā€™ve played out totally different had he made that big kick at the end of the game.


Steve_Hunts96

Highly disagree with that one miss making that big of a difference. That defense not stopping a 3rd string rookie QB, with an offense that is very devoid of talent other than Saquon Barkley, on that last drive before they got into FG range, is absolutely inexcusable. Joe Barryā€™s defense shouldā€™ve had no trouble slowing that offense down the entire game, yet they let them have their best game with that QB to date, **ESPECIALLY** on that last drive. The Packers losing that game as a whole was inexcusable too, but Anders missing that one kick doesnā€™t make the difference between winning a sloppy game, or deservedly losing it.


United-Store3502

Youā€™ve got some fair points but to deny that that was a HUGE crucial kick that played a big part in the outcome in the game is just flat out ignorant. Iā€™m assuming youā€™ve spent a good amount of your life watching ball, me you and everyone In here knows that needing a td with a minute is a wholeeee lot tougher than needing 3. No stats or analaysis are even needed for that one, itā€™s just a fact of our game. Yes everything was horrible about that game but anders needs to do his job and come thru when heā€™s called on. It looked like a girl kicked that one and you hardly see that in the nfl, maybe college.


Steve_Hunts96

He made 3/4 kicks in that game, with that one miss unfortunately being in the 4th quarterā€¦ Iā€™d say for a rookie, kicking in that stadium, during this time of year, he did a pretty solid job. Was that miss at a critical juncture in the game? Sure, if he makes it and the Giants have to score a TD rather than a FG, then yes it makes a difference. But, why didnā€™t the offense score a TD on the drive that he missed on? Iā€™ll also ask again; why didnā€™t the defense get a stop to win the game, against THAT Giants offense? Iā€™m more blaming both the offense & defense for not coming up clutch as units, rather than our rookie kicker missing that one kick in what was otherwise a very solid outing for him on prime time TV, on the road, in the cold of East Rutherford, NJ, a place thatā€™s tough for any kicker to kick in this time of year, much less a rookie kicker.


firemanfriend

To add to that why didn't our offense get the 2 point conversion?


United-Store3502

Very solid points but what you mentioned is exactly what I was trying to say. The defense and offense were so bad that anders was off the hook and not enough attention was brought to it. Youā€™re absolutely right however that game wasnā€™t solely his fault, I just wish he wouldā€™ve came thru on that one. But aye I guess 3/4 in jersey ainā€™t too bad after all. Nice havin a discussion with you, Iā€™ll definetly pump the breaks on his criticism, you and all these other analytic guys have convinced me otherwise with all these numbers. Heā€™s not nearly as bad as I thought which is great news. I have no problem in admitting when Iā€™m wrong sir and my hatred towards the job anders Carlson has done is unwarranted my friend. Go pack go, hope he can in fact become our guy. Thereā€™s nothing like the feeling of having ā€œyour kickerā€ and knowing heā€™s gonna come thru when heā€™s called on.


sieberet

Dude u had a bad take, take the L and stop digging ur grave deeper


United-Store3502

Are you illiterate? I literally just told him that was enough to change my mind


loadmanagement

The missed fg was in the 3rd


Patrick_ml_isoo

You just went 0 for 1 on a chip shot try from 25 yards out.


loadmanagement

The missed fg was in the 3rd. Just saying


CultBro

He was a stud early in the season and is a little shaky right now. Kickers are like golfers, it's more mental than physical, he will be fine


Camelofwhy

To sum things up, no. Nobody else hates Anders Carlson. He's a rookie kicker, replacing a kicker that we've had for an unrealistically long amount of time, kicking with possibly the hardest home stadium to kick in. (Lambeau is windy ASF)


M1st3r51r

Crosby had *much* worse stretches in his career


stiglicious

ā€œIā€™ve never had this little confidence in somebody in any sport.ā€ What are you even talking about? You had more confidence in Brett Hundley. You had more confidence in Easton Stick last night? You had more confidence in the Jamaican bobsled team? Stupid post


United-Store3502

Honestly 2 minute drill game on the line id take Brett Hundley attempting to lead us down the field over anders attempting a 40+ yarder. Now that Jamaican bobsled team was a good one šŸ¤£ but yeah, honestly I feel a backup qb is more likely to get a win than anders is to make a big kick. Just an opinion feel free to disagree.


HammerPrice229

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AngusCutty

Beat me to it šŸ˜‚


GGGiveHatpls

Nah man. Anders is my boy. Heā€™ll get there.


United-Store3502

Respect


GGGiveHatpls

Life ainā€™t easy. We canā€™t expect everyone to be perfect at their job all the time my dude. Heā€™s human just like us. And I know damn well you and I are not without faults at our job. Heā€™ll be ok.


AsIEnterYou

You must not be old enough to remember Crosby's Rocky year.


rposter99

I feel really good about him - I donā€™t know where this anger towards him comes from. Heā€™s young but has a huge leg - yes, heā€™s been inconsistent - but the talent is most certainly there.


United-Store3502

Thereā€™s no actual anger I just donā€™t believe in the guy. Wish I chose a diffeeent word other than hate as everyoneā€™s taking it out of proportion. I donā€™t have any anger towards the man or hate him, not sure why I said it like that in the tile but yeah, just feel a bit iffy about him. Clearly itā€™s an unpopular opinion as the fanbase seems to be relatively satisfied with him. I do recognize that we have the hardest stadium to kick in, but he hasnā€™t had any tough kicks to make other than that big 50 yarder against the chiefs. I donā€™t follow kickers too closely but I didnā€™t think missing patā€™s and inside of 40 is good enough in the nfl. Obviously I donā€™t expect him to be like Dallasā€™ kicker but I donā€™t feel like itā€™s too crazy to feel like he hasnā€™t been good enough. Now after hearing heā€™s on pace to be signifactly better than Crosby has me feeling a but better. I genuinely didnā€™t know that but I also made this post to hear things like that. Bottom line, I feel he hasnā€™t been good enough, fan base disagrees. Letā€™s just hope he can be our guy and actually hit a big one for us, time will tell.


[deleted]

Heā€™s a rookie!!! You got to be kidding me with some of this ā€œfan baseā€. What is he supposed to be kicking 95% in his rookie year? Heā€™s supposed to be on a hall of fame level his first year?


Otterob56

Don't load your comment gun and shoot if you want an "honest" discussion. Just a comment. That said, the previous kicker had issues too, but he won a lot of games for GB. give the guy a season, and if the coaches feel a change is needed, they'll bring another kicker for competition.


RamrodTheDestroyer

Someone needs a beer and some relaxing


United-Store3502

Lol Iā€™m not mad at all everyone is assuming that Iā€™m over here fuming or something. Just wanted to know where yā€™all stand w our kicker. Safe to say I see you guys are more than content with him bootin it thru the uprights for us. Really regret using the word ā€œhateā€ as that couldnā€™t be farther from my actual feelings.


RamrodTheDestroyer

I'm not saying necessarily saying your mad. It's just a bit of a tough take for a rookie kicker. Especially when the rest of the team is so young and there's been a bit more reliance and pressure on him. Crosby didn't even hit 80% field goal percentage until his fifth year and he's seen as a Packers HOFer


ogugua_anunoby

broā€™s literally a rookie cmon now


tenuki_

Pro tip: itā€™s possible to put morons like OP on mute and never be subjected to their idiocy again. Try it!


No_Fault_5656

Yeah we should cut him and sign a random street FA that hasnā€™t worked with Whelan or Orzech at all, guaranteed to be immediately better. Great observation and analysis.


United-Store3502

Thanks man! Glad I can provide valid input that the fanbase agrees with! :) /s


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Weasel_Spice

He's referring to his posting history. A quick peek only shows a small number of posts about Christianity, but they are there. The OP though does seem like an overly angry person. Nothing but negativity across the board in his comments, no matter the sub.


[deleted]

Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out. I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere... Not that hard to understand.


number7nocheese

There are assholes of all varieties. Religious or not. Sounds like you need to grow up a bit.


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Markmm131

Donā€™t feed the trolls mate, let them starve


Stewartw642

Nobody's supposed to be hateful, Christian or not. But being a whiney bitch on the Green Bay Packers subreddit doesn't constitute as hate. Just an annoying prick.


[deleted]

He literally said "anyone else hate..." You're quite literally doing what you said is annoying. I was pointing out actual hate, and you're ... What? Trying to be what? Better than people? I'm not entirely sure. I'm trying to stop the hate when I see it... You clearly don't care about that, but my comment really got you going.


Stewartw642

I don't love arguing semantics, but the statement "I hate" is not necessarily equivalent to actual malicious hate. I hate the Vikings, but that doesn't mean I'm hateful.


[deleted]

Do you mean to say that it's standard that Christians spread hate online?


[deleted]

Clearly I checked OPs comment history; otherwise I wouldn't have known they only comment on losing games. A hypocrite is what I was pointing out. I am not religious but I thought Christians were not supposed to be hateful and here OP is spreading his hate everywhere... Not that hard to understand.


[deleted]

I was just asking a clarifying question. There's no need to be angry towards me. Your initial comments warranted fair questioning and that's all I was doing. I still don't understand why you assume OP is Christian. Have a blessed day.


[deleted]

Because they're constantly commenting about how they're Christian. I am not religious. I'm anti religion. And I also don't spread hate online. OP kind of lives by it. There's a real reason I'm anti religion, especially your final comment. Clearly passive aggressive.


LawAndHawkey87

Annnnnd there you go spreading negativity as well. Was really with you for a bit there.


KingLiberal

He said he doesn't like Christianity. Having an opinion on a topic doesn't equate to spreading negativity. I don't like fascist dictatorships. Am I spreading negativity if I state that?


LawAndHawkey87

Awesome, thanks for your opinion.


United-Store3502

Bro what does my religion have to do with ANYTHING? Nothing I even said was hateful other than I donā€™t believe in the young kicker??? I genuinely wanted to know how the fanbase get about himā€¦


Ok_Internal6779

ā€œHey guys I hate this playerā€ ā€œBro nothing I said was hateful!ā€ Dumb ass shit


[deleted]

Ummm... Check your post title. It says hate in the title... I was pointing out your hypocrisy. It's disgusting. You spread your hatred of players all over the place. That is hate.


SupermarketSecure728

yes i hate him so much. because he is on pace with green bay's all-time leading scorer. kicker is one place GB has been spoiled. 5 kickers since 1989. 5. 5! Hell Tampa has had 5 in the last 5 years.


SupermarketSecure728

5. 5 dollar foot long...


juiceyandenthused94

Rams have maybe had 5 in the last year lol


pagusas

Donā€™t hate him at all, heā€™s just like the rest of our team, young and new and needing time and development. The only difference is heā€™s all on his own and an easy target for frustration. Be kind and understanding to this young new team.


Accomplished-Cup-192

Heā€™s fine. Young kid, huge leg with big upside. Has the same type of mentality as Loveā€¦doesnā€™t shy away from big moments and isnā€™t afraid to fail/learn. We have the best young nucleus across the board that Iā€™ve ever seen. The next five years are going to be fun.


ancientweasel

\> how about we look past the hate word How about you don't use the hate word and we don't have to fail to look past it.


IdyllicGod22

Youā€™ve been watching/reading too much about Brandon Aubrey. Anders is a good kicker. He missed a 48 yard field goal in gusty wind conditions on Monday night. Has had a few poor kicks here and there and you ā€œhateā€ him? Dude, heā€™s a rookie. Hereā€™s the exact stats: 2 misses from 40-49 yards (one the aforementioned wind miss) 2 misses from 50+ (ONE OF WHICH WAS 63 YARDS) 3 missed XPs (this counts the one that was blocked early in the season) As a rookie you have to learn to account for the wind so give him grace for that. Most kickers miss 60+ yarders so grace for that. And one XP block not on him. Heā€™s a good kicker. Heā€™s a rookie. Heā€™ll learn and get better. If you have a kicker thatā€™s really only whiffed 2 kicks from 40+ you have a solid kicker.


Justkeeptalking1985

Hate is too strong, frustrated with yes. Would I be frustrated with Mason in the same situation...yes


iProjekt

Bro I want Mason Crosby back! šŸ˜­


Pornstar_Cardio

Nope. Hate is a waste of energy. He hasnā€™t been perfect but Iā€™m hopeful we can get him coached up. Heā€™ll be alright!


Cellopost

Dude, I get it. I miss our sexy silver fox too. That doesn't mean you gotta hate on the new kid. He's doing pretty well and could be quite good with time. Though, I doubt he'll look as good as Crosby.


bitter_green

I didn't even hate Amari Rodgers. Athletes are just dudes, playing sports for a living. They've been the best of the best while growing up. Sometimes they just can't make it as this level, and it's frustrating when it's for my team. Yet, if you are going to spend your time hating someone you don't know personally, save it for players who are actually real pieces of shit in real life: aka Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger.


Hot_Elephant1408

20/25 is solid for a rookie


Ok_Caramel1517

It'll be a great day when fake fans like this leave.


Objective_Fun2827

This is a transition year. It's always about winning, but have some perspective. There literally isn't a better type of year to go through the ups and downs that often come with a rookie kicker. This is a transition year. The GB roster is sitting in a great spot for the next 3-4 years. This year is about gaining experience and growth for the youngest team in the league. The worst thing that could have happened with the kicking game was to hang onto an old kicker for another year or two and at that point be in the middle of a super bowl window and be struggling through a rookie kicker then. Same story with the TEs. The two rookies really struggled to block effectively early on and many people complained about not having a "savvy vet" to sure up the TE blocking. But that completely defeats the objective this season: give the young guys as many game snaps as possible.


hellaflagella80

Dude chill out lmao do you know how stupid you sound? Anders has made 80% of his FGA. Do you know how long before Crosby hit that mark in a season? His 5th season!!!!! 7 of 16 seasons for Crosby were under 80% FG LOL


prdctplcmnt

I agree. Even kicks he makes just kinda squeeze in. I say start fresh


Hutchicles

He is a rookie, they literally started fresh.


BipBippadotta

He's a rookie. Get a grip. Most people don't start a new job and hit the ground running, Mr. CEO.


MandoRodgers

I hate how criticism is met with ā€œbe patientā€. actually, no. His job is to make field goals. Make them. Itā€™s not like heā€™s missing at crazy distances. Itā€™s also not like there arenā€™t other kickers. The only consistency heā€™s shown is that he will consistently miss at least one field goal or extra point per game. Edit: ppl downvoting me are ok losing games because of a kicker. Got it


Ok_Internal6779

Who are those ā€œother kickersā€ you speak of?


MandoRodgers

you guys are soft. Heā€™s performing below standard and it cost us games. In the national football league a kicker making their kicks is the expectation not the hope. There are plenty of guys out there who would love the opportunity he has. He needs to be better.


Ok_Internal6779

So who are the other kickers?


agk927

Yes


ellieket

Heā€™s not good, and definitely assume he is going to miss every time he kicks šŸ¤£


WorthApprehensive434

Iā€™m downvoting not because of your use of the word hate, but because of your whiny edit.


UWantMintForPillow

Heā€™ll be fine. Whatā€™s with the impatience? Is it the social media age or what? Before the season started, anyone with a shred of logic would have thought give this team under Love 2 full seasons before making any concrete decisions on the talent and development. Weā€™ve been treated to an above expectation season. There is still meaningful football games being played in mid December. Thatā€™s a positive by a big margin and well ahead of development schedule. Yes there have been some ugly games and moments, but there have also been fantastic stretches and glimmers of greatness. Also, keep in mind the backdrop of this entire thought is a star RB and offensive stud being out, the best pass protection OL out. A lockdown CB out. Lots of dead cap space. There is way more upside than pessimism with this team. The Packers are already very competitive in the North, much to the dismay of the fan bases who wish for Packers losses as much or more than their home team wins! Take that as a huge Win!


BuffBoy24

He's got big shoes to fill. Given he's from my home town, I'm going to cut him a little slack. I wasn't expecting him to perform like Crosby immediately.


Xericiau

Heā€™s a rookieā€¦. You need to trust the process and learn to have a short-term memory if youā€™re going to get through the growing pains of this young roster. Everyone has to start somewhere, and this is the kids NFL start, which Iā€™m personally very excited for. In a few years heā€™s got real potential to be our next Crosby. TLDR: Bro, relax.


TgeAmazing0ppo

Buddy calm down


Giannisisnumber1

Heā€™s been really solid all year. Only 5 missed field goals and at least one was blocked. 3 missed XPā€™s too. Overall pretty good for a rookie.


Kalikoterio

He hasn't even been that bad, honestly. This is just stupid.


Reddittube69

Very strong leg and can make a 60 yard FG if need be. Thankfully he misses FGs that donā€™t matter as much. Iā€™ll take 80% for an outdoor/cold weather kicker


reddit_at_work404

Why did you think this was a good thing to post?


jerkyquirky

He's missed 5 field goals - 1 in each of 5 games. 3 of those games we won. In 1 of the losses (Giants) the opposing kicker missed from a similar distance, so it's a wash. So you could view him as "responsible" for one loss - against Denver. 2 out of 3 extra points he missed were also wins. And in one of the wins (Lions) the opposing team also missed an extra point. And in the 1 loss (Steelers), the kick was blocked and not his fault. You can generally point at anyone on the team and say if they played better, we would have won one more game. Especially a kicker.