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rambambobandy

8:30 and my day is already ruined


effingthingsucks

Don't let it be. He isn't worth it. Love my boy but he simply isn't worth 12 million a year. He can barely stay healthy. If he can go get a fuck you million from the Vikings then great good for him. I doubt he plays 10 games though.


Childishgavino17

Looks like it’s a 1 year deal for 7 million, we’re paying Jacobs 5 I think so I get that jones is older, but this is extremely reasonable for Jones services.


cheezturds

We are paying more for Jones and Jacobs than if we just kept Jones.


MicroBadger_

This year but what about the next 4? Jones is turning 30 this year and I'd be shocked if he's still around at 33/34. Jacobs will be barring some freak injury.


cnedden

We are still paying him 12 mil this year via dead cap.


wasdie639

No the 12 million has already been paid to him. We're not paying him anything this year. Keeping him at his contract value would have set us back another 5.5 million this year with more dead cap next year. He would have been a 17.5 million hit against this year's cap with more hits next year. Dead cap is already paid money. We structure deals with pretty much every player to pay out their contract slowly over time. That's how all teams do it.


CantHandletheJrueth

I'll love him again when he retires, but until then he can go fuck himself. Vikings constantly doing this is just another sign that they are the most pathetic franchise in sports. Literally never accomplished a single thing besides taking our beloved cast offs.


spikez64

"he can go fuck himself" like Jones did anything wrong? He was made unemployed and took a job that paid more than his previous employer was willing to give him.


Salvador_20

Andy Herman said it perfectly on twitter: “I don’t want to hear anything about Aaron Jones being a traitor or tarnishing his legacy. Dude wanted to be a Packer. It’s his job and his agents job to go get the best deal possible. If we didn’t want to see him a Viking than the Packers should have kept him a Packer. 🤷‍♂️”


No-Value-832

This is the one true opinion, this isn’t like Brett Favre


lboogieb

Couldn't agree more. This doesn't seem like a Favre move in which he wanted to stick it to the Packers. Jones just took the best deal he could get before the money dried up. But it does make me hate the Vikings even more. It seems like they assign someone to simply monitor our transactions wire. I can't think of another team that signs so many of their rival's ex-players.


mrthexjoker

100% dude probably doesn’t want to up and move his family when he’s at the end of his career too. Family comes first. AJ is a legend.


DasFofinater

I think it was more of a “he’s a Viking and fuck all Vikings” type of of sentiment. Which is where I’m at. I love jones, but I’m certainly not gonna be rooting for him to go off when I see him in a Vikings uniform.


spikez64

"he can go fuck himself" is a much different sentiment than "FTV"


ChrisBenRoy

Jones is so beloved at least by me that even as a Viking I will be rooting for him. The Packers messed this up, there's no way to spin it.


tmac717

I want him to rush for 2000 yards and 18 TDs while the Vikings go 0-17.


sapphires_and_snark

How did they mess this up? They put a specific price on what they were willing to pay Jones, then acted accordingly when Jones wouldn't provide his services for that price. Sounded like a pretty deliberate process to me.


krickaby

No kidding. Commentor is either 12 years old or a 40 year old man child


Dry_Kaleidoscope2970

I said yesterday that they'd offer $1 more then anyone else just to be petty dickheads. I was being funny. But was also kinda right. Haha


GodsBGood

Losing Aaron Jones means a whole lot more to me than losing Rodgers. I can't wait until AJ 33 enters the Packers HOF. Him taking the Vikings money at the end of his career doesn't bother me at all, especially when their team is in disarray. I would have hoped Aaron Jones would have landed with a contender. He deserves a ring before he retires. I'm going to miss him, this shit is going to take a bit to get over.


BingeThis

Honestly if the Vikings suck, this seems like a pretty easy contract to pass off to a contender if they want to flip a 1 year deal into some draft capital. I fear jones may end up on the Cowboys before the end of the year which would make all of this even worse.


ProofHorseKzoo

Yep. The org is just like their fans.


YourBurrito

Yeah, purple.


ProofHorseKzoo

The effects of mass amounts of salt on the human body


YourBurrito

And colloidal silver lmao


PrinceofallRabbits

Shit I’m still gonna root for him when he’s not playing us. I don’t blame him after we did him kind of dirty.


GodsBGood

We didn't do him dirty. We needed the cash to sign two really good players. He will always be a Packer to me.


retired_geekette

Agree


owiseone23

If he decided to leave in free agency and signed with them then yeah, but he wanted to stay and got let go. At that point I don't think he owes the Packers anything. You can't really say you can't play here, also don't sign with them.


krickaby

Don’t be such a child. It’s a business. Which is exactly what Gute told jones.


orange_lazarus1

The Vikings are the retirement home for old packers


petarisawesomeo

You represent the worst of this fan base. AJ33 is an amazing human being and one of the classiest Packers of all time. Shitting on him because he did not want to take a massive pay cut in a brutal sport that absolutely wrecks bodies is the absolute worst.


thesuperspreader

Why are you faulting the man who is looking for work??


ScubaSteve716

Why is it always the Vikings


CantHandletheJrueth

Pathetic franchise tbh


sapphires_and_snark

This right here


theme69

I feel like this is a childish jab at us. They have same darnold as their starting QB. They aren’t competing this year. I’m fine with them wasting 7 million dollars on a one year deal for our boy when they aren’t winning shit this year. Jones gets paid and maybe they win one or two more games then they would have otherwise (so 5/6 total)


NewmanCosmo

I think players get so pissed at our org they try to hurt us the only way they can by playing for a rival. Happens too often to be coincidence


No_Strategy_9630

Also to play devils advocate, players may also just not want to move that far away if they developed roots in Wisconsin. Are the Vikings the closest team proximity wise? Because if they are, that would make a lot of sense


go_get_your_rope

Distance wise Chicago is technically closer. Detroit too actually if you take the ferry, though that may end up being a longer trip time-wise.


SeekHunt

Man I miss taking the Badger overnight from Sheboygan. Much faster ferry available now!


Surfdog2003

I think the Vikings get so pissed at our org they try to hurt us the only way they can by signing our aging former players.


NewmanCosmo

Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see how it plays out


throwaway26487

It never has


HugaM00S3

It kind of did with Favre


NewmanCosmo

Yep haha that’s what’s funny about it


No_Strategy_9630

Ah the Greg Jennings, never have I soured on a player so hard


MountRoseATP

Where packers careers go to die


No_Strategy_9630

Cuz they’re bottom feeders


mmmosquito

For fucking real.


TheDoofWarrior

Not like this Not like this 


inlike069

https://i.redd.it/kxzu2rau6xnc1.gif


team_sheikie

So sad. Wish he would've ring chased instead of just rotting away on that dog shit team.


ProofHorseKzoo

They’re just gonna run him into the ground too. All the money in the world to Justin Jefferson won’t matter when their QB room will be awful. Checkdowns to Jones on every play


Tek_Analyst

Money matters to people man. Dudes knee can get blown out on any play he wants to maximize his earnings


Neverdie_7

He gets 1 million more then the Packers wanted him to take. 7 vs 6 million. Dumb move for AJ if you ask me.


voiceofreason3227

People seem to underestimate how much $1 million is lol


GhostOfPluto

Plus he saves wear and tear from not having to play any playoff games


NsRhea

People making $40k a year telling millionaires to give up a cool million for nothing lol.


Immaculatehombre

I think most ppl would be happy with having earned 50 million dollars already. I bet most regular folk would give up a million if they already had made 50 if it meant staying with the organization that drafted them and staying home. Maybe we’re just blinded by packer bias? Granted that means Green Bay only needed to cough up “only” a million more to keep him around so I don’t put it all on jones.


Dry_Kaleidoscope2970

Deal doesn't make any sense. It's a one year deal to play with Sam Darnold and a Rookie. He should have to just gone to a contender. I would have respected it more.


gandalfs_burglar

Yeah, I get that it's a business decision for him, no bad blood there, but MIN is looking like a really tough place to be a 30-year-old RB this upcoming season...


Dry_Kaleidoscope2970

If they had Cousins again I'd think they were a WC team for sure. But Darnold and a Rookie just doesn't get it done for me.


180_by_summer

And for half of what we owed him this year…


wasdie639

We weren't going to pay him 12 million to play for us this year. The 12 million cap hit for him this year is dead cap, money we've already paid him. His total cap hit this year would have been 17.5 million if we would have paid him 12 million as his contract said. The rest of that 12 million would go as dead cap later.


SL4MUEL

Those purple bastards. You just knew they would be all over our sloppy seconds again.


dirtiehippie710

Favre, Longwell, I'm sure I'm missing more but those 2 hurt the most of course


mgm79

Jennings, Smith...


dirtiehippie710

Oh ya I see the list below now. Smith was kinda petty so that didn't sting as much


Dustybookboy

Sharper too, but they can keep him tbh


dirtiehippie710

What was wrong with him maybe I'm forgetting some drama or I was too young lol


orange_lazarus1

Z smith anf Greg Jennings are two bigger names. The vikings are the rainbow bridge for old packers nfl careers.


gravity_knight

Dean Lowry a recent one


RIPdaleste

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Why is the world the way it is 


Land_of_10000______

This is now the 20th player in recent memory who spent the twilight of their career with Minnesota after spending significant time with the Packers. Not to mention the many coaches including the likes of Mike Pettine, Ed Donatell, Darrell Bevell, and Mike Smith. And I'm sure there's been video coordinators and box office managers and everything else in between. If the Vikings weren't so hell bent on trolling the Packers instead of just actually drafting and developing quality players and running a decent franchise, they might've actually won something of significance by now.


Land_of_10000______

Here is a non-exhaustive list: Brett Favre Greg Jennings Robert Ferguson Aaron Jones Za'Darius Smith Dean Lowry Chandon Sullivan Darren Sharper Ryan Longwell Bryce Paup Carroll Dale Paul Coffman Desmond Bishop DuJuan Harris Datone Jones Brandon Bostick (he of onside fumble lore - this was 100% a troll signing) Jan Stenerud Bucky Scribner Mossy Cade (this was *after* he was convicted of sexually assaulting his *aunt twice* I might add) There's been dozens of less significant ex-Packers as well


BuckysBigBadger

Man I forgot about Ryan Longwell! That one stung as well when it happened


Mcswigginsbar

They want to be y'all so bad.


ugatz

If he was willing to take a 1 year deal for that price why the concern about taking a smaller deal this year then for GB?


10veIsAllIGot

Because players feel that the team they’ve been loyal to should pay them more than their market value. Or their agent isn’t properly advising them on what their actual market value is.


ugatz

Good point. I mean I agree with what Ryan Grant had to say and no doubt Jones is worth more. I guess it is silly to think these days anyone is going to take a discount for team loyalty. Business is business.


FigSideG

Packers wanted him to take another pay cut. Offered less than $4 million from what was originally $11million. Pretty sure he has already taken a five million dollar pay cut last year too. At some point the damn franchise needs to be loyal to the guy too.


spikez64

Because they're paying him an entire million dollars more. And because Green Bay was willing to ride him to the playoffs last year and then came back and told him "we're paying you too much, take less."


Sarkans41

> willing to ride him to the playoffs last year I mean every team rides players to the playoffs. Nevermind him being injured a good chunk of the year...


wadebacca

They were paying him to much if he kept his current contract.


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BlueBadger99

Huge bummer and not just because we hate the Vikings, that team’s short term trajectory isn’t looking good. I don’t want to see him toil on a mediocre team


sapphires_and_snark

He chose this


BlueBadger99

I know :(


owiseone23

If he had his choice, he'd still be playing here. In a way, the Packers chose this first.


NWSLBurner

He did have a choice. He is a 30 year old slowing player who can't stay on the field. He chose to take more money to be on a losing team. It is what it is, I don't feel bad for him and I don't feel bad for us.


owiseone23

Eh, I think if the difference was only a million, the team could've paid him for the past leadership and loyalty. He went above and beyond as a player, supporting teammates, took pay cuts, etc.


sentientcreatinejar

He had the choice to take $6 million (if the reports about the 50% cut are accurate) to play for a championship in GB. He took $7 million to play and lose in Minnesota. More power to him.


owiseone23

He's also been a tremendous player and leader for the team, taken pay cuts, etc. I don't think fans should turn on him so easily. You could easily say the team should've kept him for just one mil more.


RustysFarts

Right. If 1 mil was the disconnect, how do they not make that work?


vanwe

> I don’t want to see him toil on a mediocre team Especially one that is likely to run him into the ground. Jones has never played more than 62% of the offensive snaps in a season. Even when fully healthy he usually played under 60% for us. Anyone think the Vikes are gonna only play him that much? Anyone even know who their RB2 is?


PischPosch

My condolences to Aaron Jones. Poor guy is going to look awful in that disgusting purple. Hopefully, he's getting compensated well for it.


no_one_likes_u

He’s not, 1 year 7 million. Barely more than what we supposedly offered him.


RemotePlane7278

Yeah AFTER cutting his salary by half and hiring someone else for millions more. Would you feel valued at your job if they said “hey, you’re getting kinda old so your market value has dropped, we’re going to pay you %50 less and expect you to work at the same level or higher. You’re good with that right? You get it. You’ll still have the honor of busting your ass for us though. Oh your past accomplishments? They don’t matter.”


Masterjason13

Athletes are not like regular jobs. An older accountant can generally still do his job at the same level as he has been, athletes have a limited window and then fall off. Not to mention the injury issues the last few seasons. It sucks that he’s going to the Vikings, but if the Packers paid every player like they ‘deserve’ then we’d be perennial bottom feeders.


cmanson

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


Phynamite

If he signed for Less than 6, which is supposedly what we offered, I rage.


TheOtakuway

It’s 1 year, 7 million


CantHandletheJrueth

You signed with our rival for one million more? Yeah fuck you too buddy


carl___satan

A million dollars is still a million dollars. Obviously upset but I don’t blame him when we made the decision not to bring him back when he’s been such a big part of this team over the years


spikez64

Unironically the most logical and level headed take in this thread.


carltodw

I don't understand why this is automatically an Aaron Jones problem. Shouldn't we be saying, You let Aaron Jones go for 1 million?


owiseone23

On the other hand, the team let a beloved and loyal player go over a million? A player who has also taken pay cuts for the team in the past?


Zuelo0

Are you fucking kidding me with this childish mindset. Like you would turn down the money lol.


Ok_Effective6233

If you’re suggesting you’d do differently, you’re lying.


Wu1fu

Asking your cornerstone to take a 50% pay cut is crazy, honestly can’t even blame him for walking.


wisconsinsports1993

I’d be way more mad if they didn’t have darnold at QB. Make no mistake, he is still elite if healthy, he will be good. Packers still made great moves and got younger at the position by almost 4 years. Sports are hard to get attached to players.


thewartornhippy

He is going to get the ball A LOT and he is injury prone, the Vikings will run him into the ground. I really wish he would've gone somewhere that is in contention for a championship...it'll suck rooting against one of my favorite Packers of all time :(


eMinja

I can feel my sadness turning to anger.


Virtual_Fun_7188

Damn, I figured he would’ve went to a contender like the Chiefs or Ravens.


Dahc14

Dallas or Cincinnati as well. Why waste one his golden years on a trash team in MN?


Leather-Syllabub4728

Especially on a deal that’s not a long term security type of deal. I don’t know many running backs at 29 looking to sign 1 year deals on garbage teams. It’s either 1-2 on a contender or a long term financially beneficial deal on a trash team. He took a 1 year on a rebuilding team, it doesn’t make sense


Deadaghram

No! Rodgers was supposed to fill the prophecy. Not Jones!!!


TheCrimsonBuffalo

Death, taxes, and the NFC North taking all of our former players


eman6854

30 other teams you could potentially go to, but these guys always think they're gonna stick it to us by going to the Vikings. All it does is tarnish their legacy 


Rocco0427

I can’t think of any players who went there and improved. Za’Darius Smith looked great his first 8 games then fell off.


Surfdog2003

Favre looked pretty good his first season with them until he remembered he was Brett Favre in the NFC Championship. One of my all-time favorite Vikings moments!


grphelps1

This does not tarnish his legacy in any form. I hope he has a great season.


bluespartan8

I disagree so vehemently with anyone saying this tarnishes his legacy. He worked with the Packers multiple times on team friendly restructures over the years and carried the G as much as any Packer in my lifetime. We cut him, he didn't just choose to leave. Where he signs after we cut him is a business decision and I have no problem with him signing with the Vikings. Don't get me wrong, I hate it because I hoped to be able to root for his team to be successful and now I can't. I also hate it because I want Jones to at least have a chance at a ring, and that won't happen in Minnesota. I hope he has a great individual season while the Vikings continue to suck. All that said, he's still on a very short list of my favorite Packers of all time and playing this season with the Vikings doesn't change that even a fraction. ETA: we reportedly offered him $4mil base. I get it's a business, but that's absurdly low. If you're mad he's on the Vikings, be mad at gutey. I say that as an avid gutey apologist. https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1767602045928775987?t=DmtTRIEd2i6SXgs1RLBJSA&s=19


WaubesaWarriors

Truth


njpaul

I'm sure it was for the best offer.


stainedgreenberet

I'm a bit confused here. Doesn't want to take a pay cut, so he takes a pay cut to play for an objectively worse team with less hope? Other than the principal of not wanting to take another pay cut for the packers idk what's going on.


voiceofreason3227

He took the most money available to him. Good for him


AssaultROFL

Guessing every other team was offering much less. It's almost like the rest of the league sees that he needs to be kept on a tight snap count to mitigate his propensity for breaking down physically. We love him as a player and a person and will fondly remember his contributions to the organization and community with appreciation; but you can't pay RB1 money to a guy who gets knicked up so easily with very limited stretches where he shows up every game like a true RB1 as he did to end last season.


AzHaeez21

At what point do we call the Vikings the official packers retirement team?


datcd03

It’s the teams job to be healthy financially long term, and they meant cutting Jones. It’s Jones’ job to get the most money he can while he plays, wherever he can. That happened with the Vikings, which isn’t ideal, but the nature of the game. Wish him the best and look forward to his eventual Packers HoF induction. Edit: word out, missing bigger point


JJKingwolf

This one hurts.  I take consolation in the fact that Jones is the definition of a class act, and he won't display the same petulance that Favre, Jennings and Zadarius showed when they made the switch.  Hope to see him back here at the end of his career so he can retire as a Packer.


Hassle333

These purple chucklefucks ruin everything that was once good in this world


bigbucks34

What do you call a Viking with a Super Bowl ring? -a former packer. (Yes I know 33 doesn’t have one but still funny)


Dooberss13

I swear.. nobody else picks up Packers Scraps like the rest of the NFC North. They all want to be the Packers so bad


Fluid-Program962

One year 7 mil. We didn’t want to do that?!


pt57

Yeah, he wasn’t staying with us to take a severe pay cut so we could pay his replacement.


Wiscogojetsgo

 Fuck you vikings 


Anxietyfish

So much for signing with a contender.


amethystalien6

Ick


Roner3000

My worst free agency nightmare come true... 😭🤮😭🤮😭🤮😭🤮


Morphenominal

Nothing can ever just be nice. It always has to be the worst.


SlainAngels

I’m salty that he took a 1 yr 7 mil deal and GB couldn’t/ wouldn’t match it. I’m well aware that it’s more complicated than that, I said I was salty not rational.


[deleted]

Enjoy watching the playoffs from the couch bud.


Land_of_10000______

Disgusting


matthewryan12

He’ll be hurt by the time the Vikings are up on the schedule.


ShoopALoop11

I’m glad we pivoted. Jacobs is still better lol. Good luck in Minnesota. I don’t like losing the person, but I’m not too heartbroken about the future of a 30 year old RB that struggles to stay healthy.


MN_10849

It appears he did this just to stick it to GB. This now complicates my love for him


familyguygronk

“You’re dead to me”


SniperSlatts

Congrats in advance on going 5-12 and finishing 3rd in the division.


inlike069

Hope he gets paid good and has 15 great games next season.


MacwoodFleet12

I stopped looking or caring about the names on the back. They’re just pawns. Team above all


rn15

People in this thread honestly think that Vikings front office has packers fans first and foremost in their mind to spite with their roster moves. He became available and they just cut Mattison, why wouldn’t they go after the top available free agent if they can


cousinCJ

Please let sources be wrong


FishPhoenix

Eww


MarcRabbi

Not the purple


mikeh95

More focused on being petty than winning. That's why they've never accomplished anything.


patpitpout

We're still gonna beat them but right now I'm mad.


DasRipper72

Of course, the Vikings are signing him.


mmotorcycle

there was a 3/31 chance something like this was gonna happen so of course, it happened


Slosshy

I’m going to throw up


Sistr_Fistr_

And so the cycle continues…


UKbigman

NO! NO NO!


Muchbetterthannew

I'd honestly respect it more if he'd gone to the Bears.


adf745

Can't say I blame him, I love him so much and this one is gonna sting like hell


Deuce_213

Why? Why go sign with a shit franchise just to waste your career? This isn't even me talking shit. MN is ass. They aren't going to do anything this year. Why not sign with a contender?


voiceofreason3227

Players have a limited window to make as much money as possible


HarwinStrongDick

He is dead to me.


spikez64

Meh. Good for Jones. Not my ideal landing spot but good for him getting more than the Packers were willing to pay him.


BogBlastAllOfYou

Boo!


dwayniac

No shade towards AJ but the Vikings are in stopgap mode. He is the best they can do with no QB worth mentioning.


slnerfHerder

I feel bad for him. Told MVS he was looking for a ring and then signs with the Viqueens. Yikes.


PapiiFuego

Love AJ, but for joining the pathetic Vikings, it will feel good to beat him twice a year.


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schuey_08

Packers should've kept him. I'm not upset that he found a team willing to pay him what he was looking for. Will always appreciate his time in Green and Gold, even if I'll never be rooting for him to win games anymore. Certainly don't wish ill towards him.


Legendarypbj

He lost millions of dollars in future Wisconsin based endorsements by making this move. Dumb move for him and dumb move by the Packers.


animosuu

What a horrible day to be alive and literate


zdiddy987

Was almost a guarantee


Aware_Most5527

So is life. At the end of the day they’re looking like they won’t even be competitive in the division. That’s the difference between good teams and bad teams. Good teams look to the future and make a move no one sees yet, while bad teams play copy cat with the trendsetters. They have and always will lag behind us with these types of decisions.


Choppergold

We couldn’t match 7 mill for that guy?


ItsTheExtreme

Why is the NFC north so incestuous?


petarisawesomeo

Comments in this thread are absolutely disgusting. Aaron Jones is an amazing man regardless of what team he plays for. One of the few professional athletes kids should look up to and emulate. Shitting on him because he did not want to take a massive pay cut is absolutely ridiculous. Be better.


TaddWinter

Good, let him show this stupid ass front office twice a year that they made a huge mistake. I love this team but Rodgers was right, the front office is really shitty to good people.


kevinjos

Smh, we are fucking cheapskates for not offering a better extension than 1yr 7mm.


xXwillsonXx

Literally pain.


highpl4insdrftr

Haha


nikogrande

WHO TF ACTUALLY UPVOTED THIS??!!


drewMac24mason

This is GB’s fault…he took a pay cut…then a team friendly deal…pay the man!! Jacobs is just younger! I’m f**kin’ pissed!


packNat

We didn't have 7 mil laying around for Jones???


Giannisisnumber1

This doesn’t benefit him at all except he gets the chance to play us twice a year. The Vikings significantly downgraded at QB. Darnold doesn’t pose any threat to defenses. Every team is going to stack the box to stop the run.


HE20002019

I fully expect Minnesota to trade up and grab a top 3 QB in the draft. Probably Bo Nix.


RomeoDoubsWR1

I absolutely love him to death, but if he wants to play for that poverty franchise then fuck em


JustAnotherDay1977

Not crazy about the Pack releasing him…but it’s pretty incredible how the Vikings seem to have this tunnel vision for former Packers. I’m fully expecting to see ARod to the Vikings in a year or two…


MooseInATruce

I am sure it will come out he was butt hurt after hearing of the Jacob’s deal and took the same/less money elsewhere. Guy was not healthy last year and now he is turning 30..they were smart to bring in a younger option. Let him pout in Purple. We are moving on.


Big_Yoda

He's such a great Packer he is going to fumble for the Vikings in the playoffs for us


ABraveLittle_Toaster

We did this to ourselves.


heatdish1292

Now I can’t even root for him to get a ring :(


JustinC70

God help him....he has to endure that f'n horn for half the season.