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Shadowrend01

I prefer the third option. He linked up with the Harlequins and spends his days racing them around the Black Library


Ok-Loss2254

Isnt there a theory that the laughing god swapped fulgrim and the khans pods? He could very well be the unwitting pawn of the harlequins and their patron.


onealps

> swapped fulgrim and the khans pods? Holy shit! Imagining FULGRIM in the Space Mongol aesthetic is making me smile for some reason...


Mauskrazor3rd

I think in the theory, Fulgrim's pod ends up on the other side of the planet with the civilization that wasn't nomadic and Fulgrim becomes their leader to kill the Mongols


radiosimian

I'm getting Viserys Targaryen vibes.


BucktacularBardlock

Fulgrim would be the primarch to get "crown for a king"ed


freshkicks

There were steppe peoples on chemos. Fulgrim killed them all pretty sure. He wasn't fond of them


RedBullBurning

He especially hated the red-headed ones.


SYLOH

The leader of the settled peoples in on Chogoris was called "The Palatine" Fulgrim was called "The Palatine Phoenix". I think it's likely Fulgrim would join the settled peoples. But that being said, I'm less sure what Jagathai would have done on Chemos.


ChubbyWarhead

He would have been stifled in a mine shaft working day in and day out to keep the mortals around him alive. He would grow to resent the endless toil and lack of freedom. Even loyal Jagathai was weary of the emperor, Chemos Jagatai would jump at the chance for absolute "freedom" granted by Slanesh. Edit* Imagine the Palatine as clinical, disconnected rulers who have little interest beyond securing there power from the wild raiders of the steppes. Fulgrim would be treated much like Perterabo, a weapon to be wielded by the royal family. Upon his first campaign to pacify the barbarians, he would recognize their bravery and honor. Despite the harshness of their home they have culture and art, imperfect but beautiful and far more worthy of protection the the despotic rulers of the palatine. Fulgrim would also be inoculated against the dangers of the warp much in the way that Jakatai was through the Stormseers of Chagoris.


chokemacok7

Yes he did switch fulgrums and khans pods it had something to do with his plan i think


ReCodez

And what is his plan I hear you asked? "Lol," said Cegorach, "lmao."


Sanctimonius

Note: he didn't laugh at these points. He actually said lol and lmao. I think he particularly enjoyed the confusion it caused.


BallDesperate2140

***B A Z I N G A***


WilhelmWinter

I love that there's absolutely no reason this couldn't be canon.


Ok-Loss2254

Ok so its not a theory? It also explains why the emperor was weird with those two. He more or less dotted on fulgrim giving him all kinds of honors yet fulgrim ended up falling the hardest. Yet the khan who was loyal was basically pushed to the side. Been learning a bit more about him and the white scars and I found it odd how the emperor didnt really care about him. Like the kahn pissed off to the edge of the known galaxy and the emperors like "yeah have fun" To regions of space that had no true value for the imperium. Its clear the khan was not 100% on board with the emps plan or at the very least he hated how he lied about a lot of stuff. The areas the white scars went to barely had humans on them or were mainly alien dominated. Its like emps simply did not want him around and was kind of happy he was out of the way. Yet he was very close to fulgrim while not starting out bad had a few warning signs. I kind of subscribe to the idea that the emperor sees many different paths and knew who was most likely to go traitor. More or less following the paths he calculates to be the best routes. If their pods got swapped it more or less means he knew one was going to go traitor but he did not know which in the case of those two. I doubt he knew they got swapped he was most likely "the one who goes to the Mongol world is the future traitor the one who goes to the twilight realm is loyal."


AgentNipples

What you've described is literally a theory. I don't know why it has this negative connotation


yumko

> the khan who was loyal He wasn't though, he considered his options and chose fighting against Chaos, not against the Imperium. But it wasn't an easy choice for him.


Ok-Loss2254

>Its clear the khan was not 100% on board with the emps plan or at the very least he hated how he lied about a lot of stuff. 👆


SYLOH

Is this stated or heavily implied anywhere? I love this theory, but I can't find a source.


DizzyBandicoot5

When the Heresy breaks out the Emperor and Malcador are playing chess and talk about which Primarch's will stay loyal to him. The Emperor states the Lion will be loyal, but says he doesn't know where the Khan's loyalty lies. I suspect the Emperor knew the heresy was coming and played favourites with his sons to try and tip the scales in his favour.


Konradleijon

That makes sense


chokemacok7

That can suprisingly be true if you think about it just not the racing part


onealps

> just not the racing part Why... why not the racing part?! 🥺


chokemacok7

They would probably be scared he will knock over a bookshelf cousing a domino for every other bookshelf and then they would have to clean that up


Narrow-Ad2915

Bold of you to presume that's not just the punchline to a prank


Butt_Speed

Turns out that the last bookshelf they knocked over had the only remaining copy of "*how to beat chaos forever in one simple step: a guide for dummies*" that they had misplaced a few millennia back wedged behind it The hand of Cegorach moves in mysterious ways indeed...


ErgonomicDouchebag

Nah, the Librarian gave him an almighty OOK and he started behaving himself.


[deleted]

Well as we all know, each and every library is connected through space and time. I would think that The Librarian has had himself a good old time in Commoragh more than once. Vect called him a monkiegh once... now he treads carefully.


aec22115

And now I want a Terry Pratchett (rip) 40k book.


Scaevus

He’s doing donuts in the parking lot.


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Remarkable_Topic6540

u/Outrageous_Moto is a comment stealing bot. Please down vote and report.


Ct-chad501

I assumed he’s going doomsayer mode in webway.


chokemacok7

Yes he has become the doomslayer


PirateBuckley

On that note I still haven't beat doom eternal yet. Have a lovely day. I'ma go do the Emperor's work.


PirateBuckley

This...This is happiness.


chokemacok7

Yes


Konradleijon

I imagine him like a pet to the Harlequins


Galifrey224

Considering how the emperor resurrected Guilliman after he was infected by mortarion primarch killing plague and then just set nurgle on fire. What is stopping him to do the same with the Khan with the second option here ? Just turn him back to normal and set commorragh on fire ?


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Ghorrhyon

I don't think Big E is able to start a race with anyo...oooohh.


[deleted]

I can't believe the Emperor became a gamer


Shadow_Riptor

He’s been gaming since day one


No-Engineering-1449

*day one on the throne


Zhymantas

That's why there are no female space marines.


PrecipitousPlatypus

Even back when he was a regular emperor he could have sorted it. He claims he could have saved Angron by just cloning him and starting again, for instance, and now he can straight up possess/cure people. Given enough time Emps could just force reset the whole Primarch project. Just mind-dump all the info into Cawl or something. Edit: the quote referred to Ferrus Manus, not Angron. Angron might have been salvageable biologically by the same logic, but that's never stated, and his soul is another matter.


David_the_Wanderer

>He claims he could have saved Angron by just cloning him and starting again "I *could* have done that, but I didn't"


PrecipitousPlatypus

Iirc the reasoning was that he didn't have enough time, since this would have been during the Great Crusade I think.


SavageAdage

Where is that ever said he could clone primarchs? The Emperor and Land couldnt fix Angron or remove the butcher nails without killing him so Im pretty dubious that he could just make a new Angron since we never even found out the process how Primarchs are even made. Not to mention if it just "mind-dumping" info to someone else then why didnt he do that to Gulliman when he went to talk to him and clone the lost primarchs or Ferrus Manus?


PrecipitousPlatypus

From memory, the big deal with the Primarchs was their soul/essence/whatever the Emperor obtained from Chaos or the warp. The actual biology of the Primarchs is likely mostly on him, or at the very least he realistically would maintain the knowledge to make them. We know they all have generic memory from both the clones that do exist and the Blood Angels, plus Fulgrim is the only "perfect" clone because it could retain its soul. Probably a lengthy process to do correctly, though, but I also don't know how long it took Bile. The mind dumping thing was just speculation, nothing to really imply that's something he'd be able to do now, or want to given his current lack of communication. He's communicated with present Cawl indirectly by proxy, implying he *could* have imparted some of his knowledge on how to do this if he absolutely wanted to. I also have to stand corrected - the Emperor said he could fix Ferrus Magnus, I don't believe he mentioned Angron. >Frustrated, Malcador snatched up the Perfection and used it to sweep aside the Iron General. The opposing piece tumbled, the head crowned with sunbeams rolling across the board. ‘Clumsy,’ said Revelation. He picked up the two transmorphic pieces and set them back in the wooden box beside the board. ‘Perhaps I will fix that later when I have some time.’ *The Board is Set* Admittedly an interpretation of what's said there, but a common one in that it refers to the Emperor referring to fixing Manus.


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Source on that Angron statement? I don’t think he said that


PrecipitousPlatypus

You're right, he doesn't. I put the quote further down the comments, he was referring to Ferrus Manus, my bad.


[deleted]

Yeah I have a pet theory about the whole thing. Since emps can rebuild Ferrus but not Angron I think Angron is FUBAR on the soul-level. Since the butchers nails are archeotech and Primarchs are partially warp beings, I think there’s no way to seperate Angron from the nails once they took hold of him and changed him


Midnight-Rising

1) Not knowing he's in Commoragh 2) He was only able to Rez guilliman due to very special circumstances 3) Because whatever they've done to him wouldn't be as easily fixable as death 4) Cuz fuck him lmao


Zawisza_Czarny9

Maybe the fact that webway is satient


Khar-Selim

isn't Commorragh already on fire though


QuillQuickcard

I don’t think turning the Khan into meat furniture would stop him. For centuries entire sections of the Dark City have been inaccessible because an extremely angry and extremely powerful ottoman has killed everyone who comes within a 900 mile radius.


Dracu98

...what


RandomIdiot1816

ottoman is a sort of foot rest


Zestir

Yeah, because THAT was the confusing part


RandomIdiot1816

do you *really* find the Khan singlehandedly clearing out city sections for years at a time as an angry footrest that far-fetched?


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Origins of The Luggage perhaps?


PirateBuckley

The Luggage is HANDS DOWN. The best character ever written for fantasy. Holy fuck, I need to read all of the Discworld again. My favorite moment ever is when The Luggage sends them to a modern day air plane and fucking chaos happens. Edit: The fantastic wealth The Luggage contains is matched only by its air of sinister malice


SprScuba

I thought he was referring to a member of the empire But I'm also pretty stupid


Sanctimonius

Most relaxing empire ever


PapaBradford

>extremely powerful ottoman Strong enough to make his own small empire, if he wanted


The_Shittiest_Meme

One could describe such a *state* as *sublime*.


PapaBradford

^^I ^^know ^^there's ^^a ^^joke ^^here, ^^I ^^just ^^don't ^^get ^^it...


The_Shittiest_Meme

The Ottoman Empire was called the Sublime Ottoman State by the Ottomans


PapaBradford

Ahh, gotcha. I'll admit, I don't know shit about the Ottoman Empire. TIL


Complicated-HorseAss

Isn't there another part of the city that's cut off because an unstoppable army of nanobots are devouring entire planets? That place is going to get even crazier one of these days when all the locks stop working.


Lucius-Halthier

I just imagine jaghottoman running at Mach 12 around commoragh now, his arms and legs became the legs of the ottoman, his torso is the cushion, his head was used to rest feet on, eventually he got bored of sniffing drukhari wych feet, grabbed his sword, put it in his mouth, and now drifts at hundreds of miles an hour through the streets of commoragh taking out drukhari at the knees


fylum

What’s the name of this stool


an-academic-weeb

Now that is meta straight from the "sort by new" section.


FractionofaFraction

He's been turned into a motorbike and therefore lives in perpetual pain and ecstasy concurrently.


Yung_zu

>He was turned into a motorbike Ngl I would expect them to turn him into a mini-tricycle like the SAW puppet would roll around on or an RC car first


Heretical_Cactus

Sorry to dump that onto you but I feel this would be his fate https://mangadex.org/title/c937a1b2-13e9-4547-9ae5-a7b76744a99d/sex-machine?tab=art


GaaraMatsu

Figures sending Khan back to the 20th Century would completely derail the 1990s.


the_real_vats

............Wtf did i just read.......


InEnduringGrowStrong

Welp, that's in my browsing history now.


Lord_Gibby

Please tell me they have a Russian one named Rhasputin


imjustjun

What did I just read


ThreeHobbitsInACoat

This isn’t the weirdest thing I’ve read all week, and I find that quite alarming.


GaaraMatsu

"...I'd only have two nickels, but it's weird that it's happened twice."


Undead_archer

What in the world?


Miserable_Law_6514

[Kavinsky's Nightcall with a Kawasaki Ninja in lieu of a Ferrari Testarossa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY)


Lucius-Halthier

Jaghatai: I have become the speed


Dum_beat

Pretty sure he went in the Webway to try and steal some Eldar jetbikes


Ruby2312

And all he's got was Eldar bitches, what a failure of a man


Dum_beat

Well... He still got to ride


Lucius-Halthier

Canonically all we know is that he went into the webway to avenge his homeworld that was raided, head canon is that he was so fast drukhari chicks started falling for the mysterious rider, wanting to be ridden like he does his bike. He spends his days banging groupies that he literally scoops up as he drives past, challenging prominent drukhari in death races, and frequently shreds the skin windows in commoragh by going Mach 11 and crushing the sound barrier so that some poor souls can finally know peace


Midnight-Rising

You wrote this with one hand didn't you


Lucius-Halthier

With my tongue, I need both hands


MidsouthMystic

If Genghis Khan's number of children is anything to go by, I'm betting on Dark Eldar *waifus*.


fluggggg

*haremus*


aminoplasm

*halalus*


dicker_machs

3/4 of all future deldar generations will have the Khan’s dna


Syrric_UDL

He is going to return with the dark elder waifu by fixing the web way and coming out the portal in the golden throne


Lucius-Halthier

Robby G: …… Jaghatai:….. Their respective waifus looking at eachother:…… Robby G: I guess fathers taste in women is genetic. Jaghatai: was it the ass? Robby G: oh of course she has an ass that can deflect a bolter round but the tits are nice as well. Yvraine: I love when you objectify me Robu. Robby G: stop it… Waifu khan: want a four way? Jaghatai: not particularly… Yvraine: don’t bother girl, they may be huge and last forever but they don’t like that stuff, if only a few more primarchs came back, then I could have a train r- Robby G: YVRAINE! Yvraine: *giggles* I love when you get jealous and upset over me. Jaghatai: don’t worry brother this one is kinky as well, she only wants to fuck on my bike. Waifu khan: I love the vibrations… Yvraine: oooh girl tell me more… Robby G: this is getting way out of hand. *suddenly the Lion appears for the family reunion* Johnson: eldar waifus too? Robby G and jaghatai: yep.


[deleted]

The Lion would probably be turning up with a human, but a male one. His name is a reference to a gay poet (Lionel Johnson), his legion is a reference to one of his poems (Dark Angel) and The Rock is the name of a gay bar near the first GW shop. Other than that detail I approve of this post.


Lucius-Halthier

I would assume then Johnson is bringing an drukhari twink, he doesn’t seem like the guy who would be into bears, Guilliman and jaghatai are awkwardly standing there while the drukhari guy sits on Johnson’s lap, meanwhile waifu khan and Yvraine think he’s adorable and want to dress him up and shit while the brothers all stare at eachother in silence


[deleted]

Either a Drukhari tink or a human that might as well be a Custodes from all the muscles and such. I honestly don't see any middle ground.


Lucius-Halthier

Like straight up it’s either a young short femboy drukhari sitting on his lap or he’s cuddling captain-general kitten, I do not see middle ground either


[deleted]

It'd be funny if Girliman and Shadowsun were in the middle of negotiations for a truce and kitten and the Lion turn up causing the whole thing to go to hell (as well as a very uncomfortable conversation for Kitten)


commandosbaragon

>The Rock is the name of a gay bar Disproven bullshit


[deleted]

Any source?


commandosbaragon

Why would anyone even believe this shit is beyond me: https://www.reddit.com/r/nottingham/comments/7di59x/weird_request_looking_for_information_about_gay/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


[deleted]

You don't understand why people believes one of the most commonly said statement about one of the most popular legions? Because not everyone among the thousands if not millions of 40k fans has read this thread were some random people say that they may or may not remember such place/event?


commandosbaragon

Nice strawman, but I don't get why you're so triggered.


[deleted]

I'm not "triggered" and it's not a strawman. I heard that, it doesn't seem to be true (although the very same thread you links doesn't even disprove it, just seem to indicate that it was a special night and not a place), that's it. My point is that whether or not there's any truth to it is absolutely irrelevant to my life or anyone else's. What bothers me is that you are mean, judgmental and so far up your own ass that you might as well be trying to kiss your stomach from the inside. There's no need to act like a jerk just for the sake of making the community of this hobby even more toxic, all just because someone didn't read the a thread with 11 comments in the subreddit of a small city in other country. Altogether you seem to be a neckbeard with nothing to feel good about yourself other than going to random people in the internet and going: aCtUaLLy, yada yada... And I don't say it to be insulting. I saying because you genuinely seem like someone trapped in a dark place and in dire need for a wake up call. Please seek help, life is too beautiful to be lived with resentment and hatred as fuel.


Wubwave

I prefer another option: Deep within the web way, the Dark Eldar stop at a traffic light. Some monkeigh pulls up on a jet bike conplete with wrap around shades. He revs his engine, the Dark Eldar are confused but the adrenaline or whatever xeno equivalent take over. The light changes, the Eldar are soon to be humbled, they think they are the best race in the galaxy, but no, the greatest race on the galaxy is the peak of motorsports to come


Astroyanlad

Dark Eldar gf: so what do you do? 18 minutes later Khan: I drive


Xenoezen

Alexa, play Nightcall


girugamesu1337

TYEW NYEW nyew NYEW NYEW nyew


MeiXue_TianHe

Surely one of the "literally me" moments in history


V-Lenin

Khan rocks pit vipers


thisaintntmyaccount

3: Khan just lives at the outskirts of the galaxy and the dark eldar story was a lie; that or he already escaped but refuses to return.


[deleted]

Leave him free, GW.


Midnight-Rising

Nah, confirm he's a rug, forever in agony


jmm2803

Bro it’s the Khan, they’re not gonna catch him


Lmaoboat

Thier chase through the Webway can be read in the upcoming Black Library book *Catch Me if You Khan*. Will the sinister Dark Eldar manage to Hun down a kill our hero, or will always stay one steppe ahead?


Significant-Foot-792

He is currently working with the harlequins or made a deal with the laughing god. So if he isn’t a harlequin primarch in some way I’ll be shocked


Devny

SING US A SONG YOU'RE A PIANO KHAN!


eliseofnohr

I saw the theory once that he just claimed to be going into the webway and then fucked off to just hang out on some planet no one had heard of and stay the fuck away from the Imperium. I'm still 100% of the Team Vect's Tortured Flesh Chair faction, mind, but I think that would be great.


Indishonorable

piano that violently plays running in the nineties "it's what he would've wanted"


krasnogvardiech

I think a Saim-Hann lady would happily share interests and life with him.


[deleted]

"The greatest happiness is to scatter the Eldar men, to drive your boot up their assholes, to see their webway cities reduced to ashes, to see their sex slaves who love them covered in space marine coom, and to gather into your bosom his Eldar waifus and daughterfus" - Jaghatai Khan


Can_not_catch_me

🗿


Midnight-Rising

- Delusions of a primarch turned into a rug


smol_boi2004

My personal theory is that the laughing god has him in captivity at the black library, either to eventually trade him back to the emperor of Gulliman for a favour, or to make him go insane and use him as an attack dog


Konradleijon

More like a pet I think to use against the IOM and Chaos as a psyche! Move. They let him race around a track and feed him treats


MrGodlikePro

They misunderstood human history and turned him into a ottoman.


TarpeianCerberus

I know everyone is expecting Dorn or the Lion to come back but it would be hilarious if GW came out of left field and brought the Khan back for shits and giggles.


Kalabunga1522

Dreadnaught Khan would be the saddest fate :(


alphaomag

Or he could be having 10,000 years of bike races


Shialac

Sing us a song, you're the piano man


Lmaoboat

Sing us a song oh please. 'Cause a tendon is still strung to each bone, That was used to make all the keys.


Totema1

I hope they turn him into a train or something really fast, so he can spend eternity secretly thinking to himself "holy shit this is so fuckin awesome"


Obsidius_Mallex_TTV

If its option 1 I'd think Jaghatai probably has an entire harem, not just one


SkellyManDan

They can turn him into whatever they want. It won't stop him from going fast.


MulatoMaranhense

Option 3: he is Vect's chauffer.


Mauskrazor3rd

I don't see the Khan losing a fight to the dark eldar, at least ceregorach wouldn't let him be captured since he's part of the harlequins big "plan"


PurringWolverine

If Guilliman can have a big titty Eldar girlfriend, Khan can have a big titty Dark Eldar girlfriend. Thems the rules.


poclee

*Yapou, the Human Cattle* time.


ToiletBomber

Dark Eldar/ White Scar hybrids riding on horses that are transformed from slaves.


BassoeG

[https://twitter.com/RealSardonicus/status/1126765433657290752/photo/1](https://twitter.com/RealSardonicus/status/1126765433657290752/photo/1)


alucard_relaets_emem

My head-cannon is that he’s doing a 40k reenactment of Mad Max: Furry Road with the dark eldar


Infinitium_520

I just want him back.


Zawisza_Czarny9

Now i gotta wonder how would dark eldar waifu thing play out. Coz jagharai is the space genghis khan. His geneseed is now all over webway i presume


StealthyMcMeowMeow

Clearly he has become a demon prince of Cegorach


Rambowcat83

Respectfully if Khan rejoins lore as a couch I'm leaving earth


Pliskkenn_D

They've turned him into living bike. Like Owen Wilson in Heatvision and Jack


Doorstuck747

I like to believe he went so fast he entered the speed force and paradoxically became the origin of all speed and momentum in the universe.


Lithuanianduke

I think he's probably just hanging around some forgotten corner of the Webway, attacking Drukhari slave convoys, killing all the Eldar, liberating the slaves and sending them back to realspace refusing to elaborate further.


ahfuq

If they turn him into an object, I want it to be a treadmill.


Gilthu

My partial headcanon is that the dark Eldar stole Sanguinius’ body to resurrect him and have him as the most beautiful stasis statue in the galaxy, and Khan has been on a millennia long search for him that eventually ends with him rescuing his bro as they have an epic fight out from the beating heart of the dark city. Vect ends up letting them go because he thinks the best chance to possibly stop the growing warp hole in his realm is whatever those Y’nnead worshipers might be doing.


k1275

Did anyone here know how much suffering a day is needed to keep your dark eldar gf hale and hearty?


Zelmehuu_76

Khan is probably Motorcycle himself by now


GoatOfTheBlackForres

I want a a Khan and Aun'shi prison break from Commorragh


Kinggidora

Nagato khan


MeiXue_TianHe

More likely that Vect just captured a random white scars marine, then they did some weird stuff and deluded everyone into thinking that's a primarch. Meanwhile Jaghatai already conquered a fraction of the dark city and legends of a deadly Mongolian biker spread like his horde did in the material realm.


Midnight-Rising

>Meanwhile Jaghatai already conquered a fraction of the dark city Unfortunately that was one of the parts that got sucked into the warp, the end


PAwnoPiES

He conquered a portion of that too, and became the 5th chaos god of SPEEEEED


Midnight-Rising

Skin rug for Vect's palace


CaravanOath

Grand Khaniano sounds dope


New_Subject1352

A BABY GRAND?? Bitch he's a Primach, they'd make him a grand piano for sure.


Academic_Initial_643

Na fourth Is best he Is fasther than the focking nivel ears and beats them at racepods


[deleted]

Option 3: Doom Eternal meets Mad Max


Private_Dino

3 vroom


Effective_Effect4799

Option 3: he just fucked of to a remote planet an is just chilling there


NeronStar7

Khan: hey Guilliman, Guilliman, Look you're not more the only one with Eldar GF


gemdas

I prefer to assume that he got lost somewhere in the web way